Hanuman: I would like to ask you
why we are so fortunate to have such a nice genuine spiritual master as you, and
some others have bogus spiritual master. Is it something of karma or is this the
pure mercy of yourself?Prabhupada: No, that you can think -- your spiritual
master is nice, others bogus -- but they do not think like that. (laughter) They
will think their spiritual master is good, your spiritual master is bogus. But
there is standard who is spiritual master. Spiritual master means who is the
best servant of God. One who does not agree the existence of God, he is bogus
because he's not bona fide, mudha. One who does not accept the existence of God,
he is mudha. He's a rascal. He cannot... A rascal cannot become spiritual
master.Hanuman: How come we come to you?Prabhupada: Well, that is
another thing, but first of all we have to know who is spiritual master. The
spiritual master is he, samit-panih srotriyam brahma-nistham [MU 1.2.12], one
who is exclusively servant of God, he is spiritual master. Otherwise anyone will
come and say, "I am spiritual master." Anyone will come say, "I am incarnation
of God." So there is standard. That we have to find out.Devotee (1): Most of
the people are still ignoring God. They are so weak-willed. They are so
weak-willed that they are easily swayed by, you know, when somebody comes and
claims that...Prabhupada: Well, if one is weak, he may be infected by some
disease. It requires some resisting power. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu said
that, your answer, that "Only the fortunate person, they can get the shelter of
bona fide spiritual master." Kona bhagyavan jiva. Not all, kona. Kona means
some.Devotee (1):. Some, yes. Kona bhagyavan...Prabhupada: Jiva. So as
there are bhagavan -- somebody is rich, somebody is poor; this is also due to
fortune or misfortune -- similarly, if one is spiritually fortunate he gets a
bona fide spiritual master.Guest (2): Do you have any opinions about some of
the other Indian masters who have been...Prabhupada: That I have already
said, that unless one is bona fide servant of God, he cannot become
master.Guest (2): I mean specific people like Guru Maharaji.Prabhupada:
So Guru Maharaji says that he is God himself. Then he's a bogus. How he can be
God? God is so cheap? So only the foolish person will accept him. Those who have
no knowledge.Guest (2): Maharshi Mahesh?Prabhupada: I think he doesn't
speak anything about God.Guest (3): No. He's teaching the transcendental
meditation.Prabhupada: He speaks something of material prosperity. So He has
nothing to do with God.Devotee (1): It's just a kind of training of
mind.Prabhupada: That's it. Just like gymnastic. You exercise; you become
bodily strong. That's all.Guest (2): Sai Baba?Prabhupada: Sai Baba, he
also says, "I am Bhagavan." Therefore he's bogus. How you can say yourself that
you are Bhagavan, God? What is your power? What you have shown? And this is
cheap. Now, supposing Sai Baba is God. So people accept him God, why? Because he
shows some jugglery. He creates little gold. Is it not? So if, by creating gold,
he is God, then there is bigger God who has created gold mine. Why shall I go to
this tiny god? I must go to the big God who has created gold mine. This is
common sense. But foolish people, they have no common sense even. Therefore it
is called mudha. Mudha nabhijanati mam ebhyah param avyayam. Tribhir gunamayair
bhavair mohita, mudha nabhijanati. Everything is there in the Bhagavad-gita.
Just like mostly people take: "The nature is all in all." The scientist, they
take nature. But nature is matter. So where is our experience -- the matter is
working automatically? Where is our experience? Hm? Matter... Does matter work
automatically? What is your opinion?Hanuman: It's a chain of
reaction.Prabhupada: Reaction. First of all there must be beginning of
action, then reaction.Hanuman: In the beginning there's
Krsna.Prabhupada: Yes. That is... I think Newton or some scientist also said
that "Original motion is given by somebody; then other motions are given." Just
like this, what is called? Railway wagons? So one engine pushes it. Then the
wagon, another wagon, (makes sound) "cutcutcutcutcut," like that. Wherefrom the
original? That is answered in the Bhagavad-gita,
aham sarvasya
prabhavo
mattah sarvam pravartate
iti matva bhajante mam
budha bhava-samanvitah
[Bg. 10.8]
The Vedanta... Janmady asya yatah [SB
1.1.1]. The motion... Wherefrom the original motion comes? That is Brahman,
Parabrahman. Aham adir hi devanam [Bg 10.2]. In the Bhagavata it is said, (sic:)
aham as amagre. So they have no eyes to see wherefrom the original motion comes.
Bijo 'ham sarva-bhutanam [Bg 7.10]. These are the statement. Bija. Now, this
flower has come, white flower, from the particular seed. If there are several
seeds you sow, the one seed will come rose flower, another seed will come this
flower, another seed... Why? Why not the same? Who has made this
variety?Guest (4) (Indian man): Recently I was reading article in a science
magazine and a space scientist, he has calculated that after 67,000 million
years the universe contracts. And then I started calculating in terms of the
yugas and the division which is mentioned. With the help of an astronomer I
reached the conclusion that both figures coincide. So do you mean to say that
when it was mentioned that after four yugas they will collide. Then it was a
kind of vision, or might have been calculated by this...Prabhupada: Means
calculation. It is going on, regulated way. Just like everyone knows that this
month is February. In the month of June the summer will begin. Everyone knows.
It is not conclusion; it is experience. There is no need of calculating. So one
who has got better experience, he can say like that. Calculation and experience.
Just like if somebody says, "Two plus two plus two plus two," somebody says
immediately, "Six." And another calculates, "Two plus two plus..., six." So
experience and calculation. Lacks experience, he calculates. One who has better
experience, he doesn't calculate. One who knows past, present, and future, he
doesn't require to make calculation. He knows everything. So God knows past,
present, and future, and others who are favored by God, he also knows by the
grace of God. Because he hears from God. God knows past, present, and future.
Then he simply reproduces God's words, that's all. He doesn't require to
calculate. Just like in the Bhagavad-gita it is said, sahasra-yuga-paryantam
ahar yad brahmano viduh [Bg. 8.17]. The Krsna says. Now, we can say what is the
age of Brahma by Krsna's words. I don't require to be a very expert astrologer
or astronomer. I hear from Krsna, and I reproduce. Just like child. Father said,
"This is this;" I say, "This is this." That's all. The child is not perfect, but
when he says, "Father said this is this," that is perfect. Therefore our process
of gathering knowledge from the father -- we don't calculate or don't concoct or
put theories, no. We don't do that. This is called sruti, sruti-pramana,
evidence from sruti.Guest (4): Lord Krsna says in Gita that, to Arjuna, that
when Surya is uttarayana, people who die, they'll go to Candraloka, and come
back.Prabhupada: Yes. So you quote that. Then it is perfect. You don't
require to make research. Your research is no good because your senses are
imperfect. I have no proper vision. If the light is stopped, I cannot see. This
is the position of my eyes. So what is the use of my seeing? It is conditional.
So one who is conditional, how he can give perfect knowledge? One who is not
conditional, he can give perfect knowledge. Therefore we have to approach
somebody who is not conditioned. Then we get perfect knowledge.Guest (5): I
have great difficulty with the meaning of the term "perfect knowledge." Could
you...Prabhupada: Perfect knowledge means what you say, it is correct. There
is no mistake.Guest (5): Under any and all circumstances.Prabhupada:
Yes. That is perfect knowledge, not like the scientists. They changes: "Yes, it
was this. Now it is now changed." This is not perfect knowledge. They simply
change. Therefore we say, mudhas. Perfect knowledge is that what you say, that
is correct forever. That is perfect. Just like man dies. If somebody says, "Man
dies," it is perfect knowledge. It is correct forever.Guest (5): Suppose he
is reincarnated?Prabhupada: No, no, "dies" means the body dies. The soul
does not die. Na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20]. When the body
annihilates... Body becomes old. Just like this cloth. I am using it, but when
it will be old, no more useful, then I throw it away. I get another dress. This
body is like that. Soul is eternal. Na jayate na mriyate va kadacit. It does not
die, it does not take birth, but because he is in material condition, therefore
he has to change the material body because no material thing is permanent.
Therefore the aim of life should be how to avoid this material body. That is
real business. Jivasya tattva-jijnasa. That is called athato brahma jijnasa.
This is only business, how to stop acceptance of this material body. And that is
very clearly and simply stated in the Bhagavad-gita, janma karma me divyam yo
janati tattvatah, tyaktva deham punar janma naiti [Bg. 4.9]. We can do that.
That is Krsna consciousness movement, that you try to understand Krsna, then you
are not going to accept any more material body. That means there is no more
birth, no more death, no more disease, no more, and what is called, old
age.Guest (4): But is it possible to lead the life of a grhastha and at the
same time think of that?Prabhupada: Well, Arjuna was grhastha and a king and
a politician. If he could learn within half an hour the aim of life, then where
is the difficulty for a grhastha? Arjuna was not a sannyasi. So it was spoken to
him only, and Krsna selected that "You are the right person." So there is no
question of grhastha, sannyasi. The person must be right to understand.Guest
(4): Is it possible to develop some such kind of psyche?Prabhupada: Yes, why
not? Arjuna was not willing to fight. Then he developed; "Yes, I must fight for
Krsna." That is development.Guest (4): So there is no conflict between
the...Prabhupada: Grhastha is also asrama. It is as good as sannyasa asrama.
You can accept any asrama suitable for you, but asrama means cultivation of
spiritual knowledge. That is the difference between asrama and ordinary house.
Now, this building is called temple, and the next building is called house. Why?
The building is the same. But it is meant for cultivating spiritual knowledge.
Therefore it is called temple, to understand God. The other house is meant for
eating, sleeping, mating and defending. Therefore they are house. So you can
change your house into temple provided you try to understand God. Then it is
asrama. Otherwise it is house.Guest (4): But is it possible to jump from
brahmacari to directly sannyasa?Prabhupada: It is not jumping. It is regular
process.Guest (4): One should go through all the...Prabhupada: Yes. Just
like student. Then he becomes a family man when he's grown up. Then he becomes
again a sannyasi. So it is a process. It is not jumping. One after
another.Guest (4): Yes, but would you allow one of the devotees to, if he
wants to, observe celibacy and then...Prabhupada: Yes, that is
brahmacari.Guest (4): And after that...Prabhupada: After that, he should
continue the life of celibacy. But if he is unable, then he's allowed to
marry.Guest (4): Because (Sanskrit). You cannot suppress your
karma.Prabhupada: There is no question of supressing. Regulating.Guest
(5): Do the same rules apply to women as to men?Prabhupada: Yes. That is
stated in the Bhagavad-gita, that in the society women, working class, and the
mercantile class, they are, according to Vedic scripture, they are less
intelligent, women, working class and mercantile men. Just like mercant..., they
are after money, that's all. And sudra, they want, after job. And women means
they are after fulfilling their material desires. They have no other idea, that
there is Brahman, one should know Brahman... They do not care to know. Therefore
they are called sudras, stri, sudra, vaisya. Yes. Vaisya. So Krsna says,mattah sarvam pravartate
iti matva bhajante mam
budha bhava-samanvitah
[Bg. 10.8]
mam
hi partha vyapasritya
ye 'pi syuh papa-yonayah
striyo vaisyas tatha sudras
te 'pi yanti param gatim
[Bg. 9.32]
So it is not blocked
for anyone. Anyone can get Krsna consciousness. Anyone can go back to home, back
to Godhead, provided you follow the regulative principle. Then it is possible
for everyone. It doesn't matter whether he's woman, whether he's working class,
whether he's a sudra or a brahmana. It doesn't matter. That is stated in the
Bhagavad-gita, that "Even they can go. And what to speak of the brahmanas?" Kim
punar brahmanah punya bhakta rajarsayah... [Bg. 9.33]. If the brahmanas, they
cultivate spiritual knowledge, it becomes very easy for them. Even they can go,
sudras, stri, vaisya. These are all the statement.Guest (5): Can a woman
become sannyasi?Prabhupada: Why sannyasi? Krsna says, mam hi partha
vyapasritya [Bg. 9.32]. He does not say to become sannyasi. He said, "One who
takes shelter of Me very firmly..." We have to take shelter of Krsna. You become
sannyasi or not sannyasi -- it doesn't matter. That is Krsna consciousness.
Krsna says, mam ekam saranam vraja. He never says that "You become sannyasi." He
never said. The qualification is how to become firmly fixed up at the lotus feet
of Krsna. That is qualification. But sannyasi is a process. Brahmacari,
grhastha, vanaprastha -- that is a process. But one who takes directly shelter
of Krsna is above all these processes.ye 'pi syuh papa-yonayah
striyo vaisyas tatha sudras
te 'pi yanti param gatim
[Bg. 9.32]
mam ca yo
'vyabhicarena
bhakti-yogena sevate
sa gunan samatityaitan
brahma-bhuyaya kalpate
[Bg. 14.26]
Those who are
pure devotees -- avyabhicareni, anyabhilasita-sunyam jnana-karmady-anavrtam
[Brs. 1.1.11] -- such persons are above this material infection. So therefore he
doesn't require to accept sannyasa or brahmacari. He doesn't... These are
gradual processes, to come to the varnasrama system, then accept the varna and
asramas, brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacari, grhastha, vanaprastha.
This is called varnasrama system. But this is the beginning of human life. One
who does not take to this system, he's animal because animal, there is no such
system. And because in this age the varnasrama is not observed, therefore men
are like animals. Dharmena hina pasubhih samanah. Dharma means this
varnasrama-dharma. Catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [Bg. 4.13].
So if the human society does not accept dharma, then he's as good as
animal.Guest (4): That which Srila Gandhi was working
against?Prabhupada: If I say the truth you'll be angry. (chuckling)Guest
(4): No, no one will be angry, but you have mentioned...Prabhupada: Gandhi
was a politician. What does he know about dharma? He was a politician. He
thought it wise that British government is very strong... Before him so many
political parties tried to become violent, and they were all curbed down. This
Aurobindo also was a leader of anarchist party, and when he was condemned to
death, then his senses came: "This is all useless. Let me engage in performing
yoga." So Gandhi thought that before him all these violent movement was cast
down by the British. So he took it as a method, nonviolence, noncooperation, and
to capture the public of India-India is generally inclined religiously -- he
became a mahatma. But mahatma is different. A mahatma is not interested in
politics. Mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim-prakrtim asritah, bhajanty
ananya-manaso [Bg. 9.13]. That is mahatma. Mahatma has nothing to do with
politics.Guest (5): The term mahatma was first used to describe Gandhi by
Annie Besant.Prabhupada: Yes, one can use any term without any
sense.Guest (4): No, I think it was by Rabindranath.Prabhupada: They...
Anyone can. Rabindra Babu was also like that. (laughter) He was a babu, but he
became guru. This is going on.Guest (4): That means that about this
varna-sankara etc -- Lord Krsna mentions in Gita -- that this present day
society is varna-sankara.Prabhupada: Varna-sankara. There is no varnasrama;
therefore all the children, they are varna-sankara. And as soon as there is
varna-sankara population, the world becomes hell. Therefore we are trying to
check -- "No illicit sex" -- to stop this varna-sankara. Now the varna-sankara
has come to such an extent that they are killing child, and that is legal. They
have come down to such a extreme position.Guest (4): But surely there is a
practical point of view also. There is nothing to eat. What will
happen?Prabhupada: Who says nothing to eat? That is also their
manufacture.Guest (4): I mean the figures which are published that half of
humanity will starve.Prabhupada: It's... Especially, we are Indian. It is
advertised that we are poverty-stricken. All over the world this is advertised.
Wherever I go, they say, "Oh, you are coming from India?" (laughter) Because
they are simply begging, the government. But who is dying? There is... Dying is
going on, but that death is going on in other countries also. They are dying,
committing suicide. And maybe some persons are dying out of starvation. You
cannot stop death. Suppose you have got enough food. That means that everything
is solved? In America there is enough food. Why they are coming hippies? There
is no shortage of food. Nothing... Everything is abundant, but why they are
becoming hippies? They are lying down on the street, on the park and I have seen
in London, the St. James Park. They are sleeping, and the police is kicking:
"Hey! Get up! Get up!" So why? The English nation is not poor nation. The
American nation is not poor nation.Guest (4): Poverty is also a comparative
term.Prabhupada: No, I saw in Amsterdam -- simply full of hippies, lying
down on the street, lying down in the park, no food, no shelter. It is going
on.Guest (2): The hippies are not lying in the park because they lack
food.Prabhupada: They must be wanting something. They are in need of
something.Guest (2): But not necessarily food.Prabhupada: One body is in
need of food; another body is in need of something else. They're needy,
everyone, needy. That you have to accept. I have seen in Los Angeles. I was
walking in the Beverly Hills quarter. One hippie boy is coming from a very nice
house. Beverly Hills, that quarter, is resided by all rich class. And he has got
very nice car, but he's hippie. Why? His father is very rich man. He has got
nice car. He might be very educated. Then why he is hippie? What is the
answer?Hanuman: He's frustrated.Prabhupada: That means in need. So that
is the question, that you may be in need of food, I may be in need of some
woman, he may be in need of some money... In this way everyone is needy.
Therefore ultimately one should search after God, when every need will be
fulfilled. Just like Dhruva Maharaja, he went... He was in need of an empire
like his father. For that reason he went to the forest and performed all kinds
of austerities, and when he saw God he said, svamin krtharto 'smi varam na yace:
"I have no more need. Everything is fulfilled. I don't want anything." He... God
said, "Now whatever benediction you want, you take from Me." He said, "No, I
don't want anything. Now everything is fulfilled." So that is the real need. The
child is crying, and he is not stopping crying. So many others coming. But as
soon as his mother comes, he will stop. He understands immediately, "Now I have
got the thing, my mother." So the real need is Krsna. That is missing. Therefore
this Krsna consciousness movement. All these Western students, they were in
need. Now they have got Krsna. This young man, twenty-four years old, he has got
all the desires for enjoyment, but he's no more after enjoyment. He's a
sannyasi. He's chanting Hare Krsna. Why? [break] ...playing jugglery? He becomes
God. So even the so-called yogis, they are in need. The so-called jnanis, they
are in need. The so-called karmis, they are also in need. Only the bhakta...
That Dhruva Maharaja, he said, "No, I am not in need." Svamin krtartho 'smi
varam na yace [Cc. Madhya 22.42]. So therefore this is the only platform to
bring man to feel completely fulfilled. So it is very important movement. So I
request you all to study this movement and help and join this movement. It is
very scientific, authentic, and real. Therefore Krsna says, sarva-dharman
parityajya mam ekam [Bg. 18.66]. If you want to be happy, you have to take
Krsna. Then you'll be happy. Otherwise not.Guest (4): So dharma there means
to the religious faith or duty?Prabhupada: No, dharma is duty,
varnasrama-dharma. That is also given up. That means the only duty becomes to
Krsna consciousness. He said, sarva-dharman parityajya. In the beginning He said
that dharma-samsthapanarthaya. Yes. Yuge yuge sambhavami. Now, He said that "I
appear to reestablish the principle of religion." So at the last stage He said,
sarva-dharman parityajya. That means the so-called dharmas, or religion, which
is going on in the world, they are not real. And the Bhagavata therefore says,
dharmah projjhita-kaitavo 'tra [SB 1.1.2], that "All kinds of pretending
religion is rejected here." Pretending religion, what is that? Pretending...
Just like gold. Gold is gold. If the gold is in the hand of some Hindu, then
will it be called Hindu gold? Similarly, religion means obedience to God. So
where is Hindu religion? Where is Christian religion? Where is Muslim religion?
God is everywhere, and we are just meant for obeying God. That is one religion,
obedience to God. Why they have manufactured this Hindu religion, Muslim
religion, Christian religion, this religion, that...? Therefore they are all
pretending religion. Real religion is obedient... Dharmam tu saksad
bhagavat-pranitam [SB 6.3.19]. Just like law. Law is made by the state. The law
cannot be Hindu law, Muslim law, Christian law, this law, that law. Law is meant
for everyone. Obedience to the state. That is law. Similarly, religion means
obedience to God. Then one who has no conception of God, no idea of God, where
is religion? That is pretending religion. Therefore in the Bhagavata you'll
find, dharmah projjhita-kaitavo 'tra: [SB 1.1.2] "All pretending type of
religion is rejected." And Krsna also said the same thing, sarva-dharman
parityajya: [Bg. 18.66] "You give up all this pretending religion. You simply
surrender unto Me. That is real religion." What is the use of speculating on
pretending religion. That is not religion at all. Just like pretending law. Law
cannot be pretending. Law is law, given by the state. Similarly, religion means
the order given by God. That is religion. If you follow, then you are religious.
If you don't follow, then you are demon. Make things very simplified. Then it
will be appealing to everyone. So this Krsna consciousness movement is meant for
making things very simplified. Accept God, accept your position as God's servant
and serve God. That's all, three words. You have no question? These
boys?Hanuman: They don't speak English.Prabhupada: Oh. Oh, you don't
understand English.Hrdayananda: (Spanish)Hanuman: They're just amazed
looking at you.Guest (6): (Spanish)Hrdayananda: They said they are
simply here feeling your presence, and they realize that you're very busy, and
so they are simply feeling love for you.Prabhupada: Thank you very
much.Guest (6): (Spanish)Hrdayananda: They said they have to go
now.Prabhupada: All right. Give them prasada. Everyone should be supplied
with.Guest (2): What do you see as the future of your movement and are you
planning to...Prabhupada: My movement is genuine.Guest (2): ...to choose
a successor.Prabhupada: It is already successful. Genuine thing is always
success. Gold is gold. If somebody is fortunate, he can purchase gold, but gold
remains gold. If somebody purchases and somebody does not, it doesn't matter.
Gold is gold. So future, gold future is always the same as it is at present --
if it is gold. If it is something glittering, that is another thing.Guest
(4): But there must be somebody, you know, needed to handle the
thing.Prabhupada: Yes, that we are creating. We are creating these devotees
who will handle.Hanuman: One thing he's saying, this gentleman, and I would
like to know, is your successor named or your successor will...Prabhupada:
My success is always there. Yes. Just like the sun is there always. It may come
before your vision or not. The sun is there. But if you are fortunate, you come
before the sun. Otherwise you remain in darkness. Sun is open to everyone. Our
Krsna consciousness movement -- Krsna is open to everyone. But if you are
fortunate, you come to the light. If you are unfortunate, do not. That is your
choice. Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66].
You do it. Now it is your choice. You surrender to Krsna or don't surrender.
That is your business. We are canvassing everyone, "Take to Krsna consciousness
and you'll be happy." Now it is their business to take it or not to take it. But
he can come. He can ask question and then "How? Why shall I take it?" That we
are ready, to convince him. That is preaching.Hanuman: When you have come to
United States, you had nothing...Prabhupada: I came to give you. Some of you
have taken, and some have not taken, so what can I do? I came to give you Krsna
consciousness. That is my duty. My Guru Maharaja ordered and I came. And... But
some of you, you have taken, and most of, they have not taken. So that is
another thing. But I came to deliver you the genuine thing. That's
all.Hanuman: The way you have come is that you have come as though you've
not come from a religion or nothing. You've come and everybody fall in love with
you, you preach, and, Prabhupada, we cannot deny you are the authority because
you know everything, and your...Prabhupada: Any way you take it, then you
become happy. That's all. Of course, when you take it out of love... That is a
fact. So without love, this transaction, because there is no price for it... All
other transaction, there is exchange of price. Here there is no price, so out of
love only, one can take it, not by paying any price. It is not possible. To pay
the price of Krsna consciousness is not possible. Yes.Hanuman: You cannot
force anybody to say, "I am the guru. I'm the (indistinct). Fall in love with
me."Prabhupada: Why shall I force? What is my... That is not my business. I
am Krsna's servant. I simply say, "Here is good thing. You take it." Now, Krsna
also says that. He does not force. Krsna is God. He can force, but He does not
do that.Guest (6): Good night now.(?)Prabhupada: Bring prasada for
them.Hrdayananda: Prasada?Guest (4): How long you'll
stay?Prabhupada: Here?Hrdayananda: About three more days.Prabhupada:
Three more days. That is in his hand. First of all give here. (prasada being
distributed) [break]Guest (2): Gita, Krsna, Caritamrta, and Bhagavatam. You
have other texts?Prabhupada: Yes.Guest (2): What do you
recommend?Prabhupada: Yes. Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu. We have translated
it-Nectar of Devotion. This in...Guest (2): This is in Sanskrit
or...Prabhupada: No, English.Guest (2): Bengali? No, but
original.Prabhupada: Original Sanskrit.Guest (4): Apart from
(indistinct) quality of Lord Rama, are there a few other things which could be
included while you are worshiping or devoting or meditating
on...?Prabhupada: God has all the qualities that you can conceive. It is
generally not... Bhaga(?), it is taken as six, six opulences. Bhaga means
opulence, and van means possessing. Bhagavat. Bhagavat-sabda. Bhaga means
opulence, and vat means one who possesses. And the first word in bhagavat-sabda
is bhagavan. This bhaga means six kinds of opulences: riches, then fame, then
bodily strength, influence, knowledge, beauty, and renunciation. These are
opulences. If one is very rich, people are attracted. If one is very reputed,
people are attracted. If one is very strong, people are attracted.
Influential-attracted. If one is very beautiful, man or woman, he is also
attractive. If one is very wise, he's attractive. And one who is renounced, he's
also attra... So Krsna has got all these qualification in full. That is the
definition of God. Anyone who possesses all these qualities in fullness, not
partially, that is God. This is the definition of God. Not that "I can produce
one ounce of gold," but if he can produce all the mines of gold, he is God. Not
cheap God. In that way everyone is God. (end)bhakti-yogena sevate
sa gunan samatityaitan
brahma-bhuyaya kalpate
[Bg. 14.26]
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Room Conversation with Sanskrit Professor, other Guests and Disciples --
February 12, 1975, Mexico
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