From One Garbage Body To Another

From One Garbage Body To Another

Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.1.2
Paris, June 11, 1974

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Nitai: "Those persons who are materially engrossed, being blind to the knowledge of the Ultimate Truth, have many things as subject matter for hearing in the human society, O Emperor."

Prabhupada:

srotavyadini rajendra
nrnam santi sahasrasah
apasyatam atma-tattvam
grhesu grha-medhinam
 [SB 2.1.2]

Now, subject matter of hearing long, long, very... Not long, long, say, about sixty, seventy years ago, one big politician of India, Madanmohan Mayabhya,(?) he came to see my Guru Maharaja. So he was inquiring about our activities. So he was informed, amongst other activities, my Guru Maharaja was publishing papers monthly in English, in Bengali, in Hindi, in Oriya, in Assamese, and one Bengali daily, Nadiya Prakash. So this politician was surprised that "Oh, you are publishing daily a Bengali paper?" "Yes. Why you are surprised?" He was surprised. He was politician. He was thinking that "What one may speak of God, or Krsna, daily in a paper?" He was surprised. Because they think that "Sometimes we go to the temple, ‘O God, give us our daily bread,' " finished God's business. And my Guru Maharaja replied that "Why you are surprised? This Calcutta city is most insignificant part of this universe."

Now, Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita that "The whole material world is situated in one part of My energy." Ekamsena sthito jagat. When Arjuna asked about the opulence of Krsna, He was describing. And He summarized,

 

athava bahunaitena
kim jnatena tavarjuna
vistabhyaham idam krtsnam
ekamsena sthito jagat

"How much I shall go on speaking to you? Just try to understand about My potency, that this whole material world is sustained in one part of My energy." The spiritual world is the three-fourths part. Suppose Krsna's energy is acting, one unit. So out of that, one-fourth unit is exhibited, this material world. And the material world is... What is that material world? Now,

yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti-
kotisv asesa-vasudadhi-vibhuti-bhinnam
tad brahma niskalam anantam asesa-bhutam
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami
 [Bs. 5.40]

The, the Brahman effulgence being spread, in some corner of this Brahman effulgence, there is mahat-tattva, material energy. And that material energy means... That is described in another place:

yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya
jivanti loma-vilaja jagad-anda-nathah
visnur mahan sa iha yasya kala-viseso
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami
 [Bs. 5.48]

The material world means innumerable universes are coming out through the breathing of Maha-Visnu. Innumerable universes. We cannot account for one universe in which we are. There are innumerable planets. Everyone has experience in stars and planets. This is one universe. And such universes are coming out, millions, through the breathing period of Maha-Visnu. When He exhales, they come out. When He inhales, they go within. That is the creation and not creation. Yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya jivanti loma-vilaja... [Bs. 5.48]

So the purpose was that this material world is only a manifestation, exhibition, of one-fourth energy of Krsna. And within this material world, there are so many universes. And each and every universe, there are so many planets. So this is one of the planets, in which we are living. And in this planet, there are so many cities -- Calcutta, Bombay, Madras, Delhi, Paris, London, and so many, hundreds and thousands. And each and every city, there are newspapers. And each newspaper is publishing three, four editions daily. So this is the most insignificant planet. Still, there are so many news to hear. Therefore it is said here, srotavyadini rajendra nrnam santi sahasrasah: [SB 2.1.2]  "Millions and millions, subject matter for hearing." This is a fact. Every paper is publishing three, four editions daily, especially in the Western countries. So if they have got so much news in the material world in this insignificant planet, just imagine how much news are there in the three-fourths' manifestation of His energy. So my Guru Maharaja said that "You are surprised, Mr. Mayabhya, that we are publishing a paper daily. So we can publish every minute a paper. Unfortunately, there is no customer." They have customer for using this newspaper, but our news, we have to canvass, "Will you kindly take this? Will you kindly take this." They are not interested. They're interested in this material news -- Radio, paper, magazine, edition after edition. Therefore it is said...

This is the meaning of srotavyadini rajendra nrnam santi sahasrasah [SB 2.1.2].  So they have no time to read a little news we are giving about God in the Back to Godhead. They have no... Why? Now apasyatam atma-tattvam [SB 2.1.2]. They do not know what is atma, what is the active principle of all these activities. They do not know. The superficially... Bahir-art... Na te viduh svartha-gatim durasaya ye, durasaya... What is that? Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum durasaya ye bahir-artha-maninah [SB 7.5.31]. Durasaya, they have got so many news to hear with a hope -- means useless hope -- that they will be able to exist here and be happy. Just like your arch, this Napoleon Arch. Napoleon was conquering all over Europe, and he thought that he would be able to enjoy this. But where is Napoleon? The arch is there. That's all. This is the position. But he worked so hard. Not only he. Everyone is working. The arch will remain, because a stone, but he's finished. He's finished. This is called apasyatam atma-tattvam [SB 2.1.2]. Because these people, they do not know what is really reality. Real reality. They are simply after so-called reality. It is very important point. Try to understand. Atma-tattvam, one who does not know what is atma, what is soul, the nature of soul...

Therefore, in the Bhagavad-gita, Krsna first of all begins the constitution of the atma, or spirit soul. He begins. When He began to teach Arjuna Bhagavad-gita, the A-B-C-D lesson was to make him convinced about the soul within the body. That is called atma-tattvam. And nobody knows. Therefore, bahir-artha-maninah:  they are accepting this external feature. Just like we have got external feature. We can understand very easily that this body, this body is external feature. Real "I" am within. As soon as I go away from this body, this external feature, as good as the garbage in the street. That they do not understand. They are busy piling garbage. "Bring more garbage, more garbage." And this is the working capacity. Bahir-artha-maninah.  They think, "This garbage will save me." Very important question. Apasyatam atma-tattvam [SB 2.1.2]. The atma-tattvam means "I am now within this garbage for the present. And after leaving this, in this garbage, I pile up so many other garbages. And in this way, working uselessly the whole life, then I transmigrate from this body to another garbage body." That I do not know. This is called apasyatam atma-tattvam [SB 2.1.2]. Apasyatam means "not seeing." A means "not," and pasyatam means "seeing, one who sees." He's seeing, "This garbage is everything." He does not see atma-tattvam.

Apasyatam atma-tattvam grhesu [SB 2.1.2]. Grhesu means grha means home. So you can take this body as home. Because I am, you are all living within this body. So this is also home. And then again, expanded, I am living in this planet. So this is also home. And again living within this universe. That is also home. Or I have got a little home, apartment, ten feet square. That's all. That is also home. So we have got attachment for this home, ten feet by ten feet or millions of feet on millions... This is home, within the compact. We living entities, we are within this home. Take this whole universe, apart from other universe, this universe. This is also home because we're living here. And we are changing, from this place to that place. Suppose I have come from India. From Bombay, I have come to Paris. This is all within the home, within the universe, or within this planet. So we see people are very busy. Seventy miles speed, they're driving car. But within the Paris, within the Paris, they may go seventy miles, eighty miles, but they cannot go beyond. That, our one countryman, Rabindranath Tagore... So perhaps you heard his name. He was a big poet. So when he was in London, so he saw that people are very, walking very fast. So he remarked that "These people are walking very fast. But there is a very small country. They'll fall down on the sea." You see?

So this is going on. (laughs) A dog in the park is jumping very fast, walking. But as soon as the master, "Come one. Come one," immediately, "Yes, sir." "Give me your neck." "Yes, sir." Chain. Chain. He's thinking that he's very free, but as soon as the master calls, immediately he has to submit. This is our position. We are very busy, but the master is the material nature. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duraty... [Bg. 7.14]. The fact is that we are under the stringent laws of material nature. We have no freedom. That we do not know. We are struggling so much. War has been waged in, all over the world, especially in Europe, for freedom. You have got that freedom statue. And in America also, there is freedom. But where is freedom, sir? That they do not know. Why? Apasyatam atma-tattvam [SB 2.1.2]. They do not know what is freedom and whose freedom. That they do not know. Therefore they have created so many newspapers for freedom. The so-called freedom. But there is no freedom. Even big, big leaders, they have no freedom. What we are?

Therefore Krsna points out in the Bhagavad-gita that real freedom is when you get freedom from four different problems. What is that? Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam. If you get freedom from these four things -- no more death, no more birth, no more old age, old age, and no more disease -- that is freedom. But where is that freedom? The so-called scientists, big, big scientists, they have very scientifically advanced, but they had no freedom from death. They had to die on a fixed-up date. Professor Einstein or any other big, big scientist, they could not manufacture any scientific instrument and keep it in the custody of his student, that "As soon as I die, you just apply this machine. I shall come alive again." Where is that freedom? So this so-called scientific improvement, advancement in civilization, it is just like jumping like the dog. That's all. It has no value. Real value is to understand atma-tattvam, "What I am? Why death is imposed upon me? I do not wish to die. Why old age is imposed upon me? I do not wish to become old man or old woman. I wish to remain a beautiful young..." "No, sir, that is not possible." Then where is your freedom? What for you are jumping so much? As soon as the master will call "Yes, sir. Bind me..."

So you are completely under the nature's control. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14].

 

prakrteh kriyamanani
gunaih karmani sarvasah
ahankara-vimudhatma
kartaham iti manyate
 [Bg. 3.27]

Prakrteh, prakrti, nature, is pulling by the ear, "Come here." "Yes, sir." "Come here." "Yes, sir." And he's freedom. Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah. He is completely under the control of the modes of material nature. Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani, ahankara-vimudhatma. This is called false egotism: "I am something." "I am Napoleon Bonaparte," "I am Mussolini," "I am Hitler." This is ahankara-vimudhatma. Fool, rascal. They are thinking like that. "No freedom, sir. No freedom."

prakrteh kriyamanani
gunaih karmani sarvasah
ahankara-vimudhatma
kartaham iti manyate
 [Bg. 3.27]

Being puffed-up with false prestige, he's thinking, "I am something. I can do something, I am..." This is the disease.

So for them, these newspapers are very useful. But one who is fixed up in atma-tattvam, Bhagavata,, "I am Brahman. I am not anything of this material world," for them, there is no need of this so-called news of newspaper. There is no... Simply, they should try to understand Krsna. That is the only business. There is no other business. And as soon as you understand Krsna, Krsna assures, janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah. If you simply try to under... Here is Krsna. If you simply try to understand Krsna... And how you'll understand? By service. By service. Krsna has agreed that "I'll accept your service." Therefore He has come. You cannot serve Krsna in His universal form. Now Krsna has agreed, as you have got limited potency, you can touch Krsna. You can touch His lotus feet. You can make dress for Krsna with devotion. You can put the dress on Krsna. You can prepare, according to your capacity, foodstuffs. You can offer to Krsna, so Krsna will eat. He says, patram puspam phalam toyam yo me bhaktya prayacchati, tad aham asnami.

So Krsna is so kind that He, although He is all-pervading, universal, He has agreed to accept your service just to give you liberation from this misunderstanding, no atma-tattvam. This is Krsna consciousness movement, that Krsna, God, is great. How great He is, you cannot imagine. But still, He has agreed to accept your service, becoming small. That is greatness. In the material world, if something is big, very big, he cannot become, or it cannot become small. Just like, say, for... Elephant is very big animal. You ask the elephant, "Please become like an ant." "Oh, that is not possible, sir. That is not possible." But God is so great that although He's universal, He can enter into the atom. That is... Anor aniyan mahato mahiyan: "Greater than the greatest, smaller than the smallest." That is God. Anor aniyan mahato... Andantara-stha-paramanu... In the Brahma-samhita it is said, eko 'py asau racayitum jagad-anda-kotim yac-chaktir asti jagad-anda-caya yad-antah, andantara-stha-paramanu-cayantara-stham [Bs. 5.35]. Eko 'py asau. One portion of Krsna, Paramatma, just to create this material world, He has entered in the mahat-tattva as Maha-Visnu, and He entered within the universe as Garbhodakasayi-Visnu, He has entered everyone's heart as Supersoul, Ksirodakasayi-Visnu, and He has entered into the atom -- although He is so great. So it is Krsna's mercy that He can become smaller than the smallest and the greater than the greatest.

So we cannot capture the greater than the greatest. That is not possible. Therefore it is His kindness that He has become just to be handled by you. This is called arca-murti. Arca-vigraha. The Deity worship means arca-vigraha. Because the devotional service, one of the items of devotional service: arcanam.

sravanam kirtanam visnoh
smaranam pada-sevanam
arcanam vandanam dasyam
sakhyam atma-nivedanam
 [SB 7.5.23]

So you hear about Krsna, you chant about Krsna, you memorize or remember about Krsna. You worship Krsna, the Deity, arcanam. You offer prayers to Krsna. There are nine different ways. So you just try to understand Krsna in nine processes or either of, some of the processes, or one process only, Krsna will agree. Krsna is so kind. And as soon as you understand Krsna, His nature, then, actually, you become liberated. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti kaunteya [Bg. 4.9]. This is the process. Real problem is how to get out of this material existence. If we remain attached to this material existence, either in this body or in the society or in the nationalism or in the greater, greater, greater -- you make greater -- but that is your bondage.

So one should be careful to understand the position of the soul, and how he can go back to home, back to Godhead, again meet the Supersoul, Krsna, and live there permanently with blissful life and full of knowledge. This is wanted.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

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