"Krishna's Loving Impartiality"

"Krishna's Loving Impartiality"

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.29
Mayapura, October 9, 1974

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Nitai: "O Lord, no one can understand Your transcendental pastimes, which appear to be human and are so misleading. You have no specific object of favor, nor do You have any object of envy. People only imagine that You are partial."

Prabhupada:

na veda kascid bhagavams cikirsitam
tavehamanasya nrnam vidambanam
na yasya kascid dayito 'sti karhicid
dvesyas ca yasmin visama matir nrnam

So Kuntidevi is clarifying the matter that people may think that Krsna was partial to the Pandava family and He was envious to the Kurus because He always took part on behalf of the Pandavas. That has been described. So just like worldly men, we, we make some friends, and we make some enemies. To somebody we are envious, and to somebody we are very friendly. This is material nature. The material nature means to become envious, generally. And if somebody satisfies my sense gratification, then he's friend. That is also temporary. As soon as the sense gratification process is disturbed, then again envious. The real nature is enviousness. So Kuntidevi says that "Because You are playing the part of human being, and it appears that You are partial to somebody and You are envious to somebody, this is vidambanam; this is Your misleading. Actually You are not like that. Actual... But because You are playing the part of the ordinary human being, not ordinary, but as human being, so Your dealing like that appears that You are, to some, to somebody You are very partial and somebody You are inimical."

But that is not the fact. People cannot understand Krsna because Krsna can be understood by the devotee only.

naham prakasah sarvasya
yogamaya-samavrtah
mudho 'yam nabhijanati
loko mam ajam avyayam
[Bg. 7.25]

Those who are mudhas, they cannot understand Krsna. Krsna is playing, although like that, ordinary human being. The mudhas cannot understand. Just like Krsna killed Putana, but she got elevation to the position of His mother. Superficially it appeared that Krsna killed the Putana, but Putana, Krsna took her as her (His) mother. Although she came to kill Krsna with poison on her breast, but Krsna thought that "This woman has come to kill Me, but because I have sucked her breast, she is My mother." So any way, the service side, Krsna always accepts, a little service. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gita it is said, svalpam apy asya dharmasya trayate mahato bhayat. Svalpam asya. A little service to Krsna is feasible, is helpful to save a man from the greatest danger.

So further she explains, na yasya kascid dayitah. Dayita means favorable. Na yasya kascid dayitah asti karhicid dvesyas ca yasmin. And nobody is envious. The Bhagavad-gita also confirms, samo 'ham sarva bhutesu na me dvesyo 'sti na priyah. Krsna is, as we discussed the other day... Just like the sun is equal to everyone, but we are not able to take the sunshine equally. Somewhere the sun is covered with cloud. Someone is sitting within the dark room. In this way, we are unable to take the sunshine equally. But sun is distributing equally. Na hi harati jyotsna candras candala-vesmani. There is the... Canakya Pandita says, candala-vesmani. Candala means untouchable, the dog-eaters. In the Vedic conception, the dog-eaters are untouchable. Actually they should be untouchable. Meat-eaters are untouchable, especially... There are different kinds of meat-eaters. Some eat the goats, some mutton, some cows, some hogs, and some dogs. Just like the Hindus: they eat goats, but they do not eat cows. Some religious conception. And the Muhammadans, they use, eat cows, but they do not eat pigs. Harama. The Muhammadans say, "To eat pig is harama." So everyone has got some distinction. But the candalas, they eat everything, up to the dogs. We have seen in Korea. And in China also, they eat dogs. Here, in India, Assam side, there are dog-eaters. So there are different kinds of flesh-eaters. And you'll find in Ayur Vedic dravya-gana, there are so many different types of meats and fleshes described, and the eating such flesh, what benefit or harm is there, that is described. So formerly, how they were analyzed.

So Krsna, although He's playing the part of human being, His activities are transcendental. Na mam karmani limpanti na me karma-phale sprha [Bg. 4.14]. That is the distinction between Krsna and ourself. He is killing. He has killed so many demons; from the very childhood His one side is killing -- Putana killing, Aghasura, Bakasura, this asura, that asura, then Kesi, and so many asuras He killed. But His killing and our killing is not the same. Na mam karmani limpanti. And in the Isopanisad is..., apapa-viddham. That is Krsna. If we imitate Krsna... We cannot imitate. Therefore our business is to follow the words of Krsna, not to imitate Him. That is suicidal. We shall follow the instruction of Krsna as He is giving in the Bhagavad-gita, but if we become so rascal to imitate His rasa-lila, then we'll go to hell. But the Mayavadis, they sometimes do that. That... In the Bhagavata it is forbidden, that "Imitation of this..." Idam ca visnoh. What is that verse, vraja..., that...? That "These pastimes of Lord Krsna, who is Visnu, with the gopis, they should not be..., not only they should be imitated, they should not be thought even within the mind, that ‘We can also do like that.' " It is forbidden.

Then the question was... Pariksit Maharaja questioned this: "Krsna, He came to establish religious principles." Yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata tadatmanam srjamy aham [Bg. 4.7]. Paritranaya sadhu..., vinasaya ca duskrtam, dharma-samsthapanarthaya. So why Krsna did this act, because it is forbidden to mix with others' wife or daughter? Without being married, according to Vedic culture, no man or woman can mix very intimately. That is even in the ordinary dealings. Matrvat para-daresu. Canakya Pandita said that "Except your wife, all women are your mother." This is pandita. Who is a pandita, learned? Now,

matrvat para-daresu
para-dravyesu lostravat
atmavat sarva-bhutesu
yah pasyati sa panditah

This is the description of pandita. Pandita... And in the Bhagavad-gita, the pandita is described: panditah sama-darsinah [Bg. 5.18]. This is pandita. Nowadays it has become the custom that unless you have got a university degree, either you may be in knowledge..., mayaya apahrta-jnanah, you are not recognized as a pandita. But in the Vedic scripture, the pandita is different person. Anyone... This is the moral instruction by Canakya Pandita.

matrvat para-daresu
para-dravyesu lostravat
atmavat sarva-bhutesu
yah pasyati sa panditah

He is giving the description of pandita in three ways: "One who sees all women except his wife as mother -- he is pandita One who takes others' money as garbage on the street -- he is pandita. And one who sees everyone, even to the ant, like himself, that ‘If I, if somebody pin, pricks pin on my body, I get, I suffer. I feel pain. So why shall I give pain even to an ant?' " Atmavat sarva-bhutesu. In a higher sense...

Just like Vaisnava. Vaisnava, Prahlada Maharaja. He is feeling for... Para-duhkha-duhkhi. This is Vaisnava's business, because a Vaisnava, when he comes to become Krsna conscious, he can understand that "What I was previously and what I am now." Actually one is... He's happy. He feels that... Yam labdhva caparam labham manyate nadhikam tatah. "So why these people should suffer without Krsna consciousness?" That is samah sarvesu bhutesu. Therefore preaching required. He preaches. Kanistha-adhikari Vaisnava, he remains compact in temple worship, that's all, to show the Deity and get some money and fill up the belly. My Guru Maharaja condemned this process. Of course, it is condemned in this sense, that those who are thinking that "I have got this temple. Let people come here out of sentiment and they'll pay, and it will be a source of income for my filling up belly..." This is most condemned. My Guru Maharaja used to say that thakura dekhiyepayesara ujgarache, rastaya jara diye jivika bharyam kara bhalo(?). One should be honest. He should work for getting some money. Just like Arjuna. Krsna never said that "Arjuna, you sit down. I am your friend. I shall do everything for you. You sleep." No. Arjuna was a ksatriya. He should fight. That was the instruction of...

So kanistha-adhikari is different. And madhyama-adhikari, they feel for others that...

isvare tad-adhinesu
balisesu dvisatsu ca
prema-maitri-krpopeksa
yah karoti sa madhyamah

And uttama-adhikari, they have no such distinction. They see: "Everyone is engaged in Krsna's service. That is all right." But madhyama-adhikari has to make distinction. Krpa upeksa. He is very kind to the innocent, but those who are envious, he does not care for them. Those who are envious, he does not care for them. He rejects them: "Let them become envious," these madhyama-adhikari. And isvare, unto the Supreme Lord -- prema. They learn how to love Krsna and how to make friendship with Krsna's devotee. So this is madhyama-adhikari and kanistha-adhikari, uttama-adhikari. There are different types of devotees, not all the same, according to the stages.

So atmavat sarva-bhutesu. A Vaisnava feels for others. A Vaisnava understands that "Those who are not Krsna conscious, those who have forgotten Krsna, they are rotting under the spell of maya. Let us do something for them." That is Vaisnava. Just like Prahlada Maharaja said, naivodvije para duratyaya, duratyaya-vaitaranyah: "I am not afraid of the indefatigable vaitarani." It is said in the sastra that you have to cross the vaitarani before going to the spiritual world. So Prahlada Maharaja said that "I am not afraid of this vaitarani. It is very easy." Tvad-virya-gayana-mahamrta-magna-cittah: "Because I know simply by glorifying Your Lordship, I am..., I can do that." Harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam [Adi 17.21]. That is quite possible. Param vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam. So a pure Vaisnava like Haridasa Thakura can simply chant. Caitanya Mahaprabhu advised anyone, especially His confidential devotees... Just like Raghunatha dasa Gosvami. He was advised that "You chant and don't eat very palatable food. Don't dress yourself very gorgeously." This instruction... But the chanting. Everyone was advised, whoever went to Caitanya Mahaprabhu, that "You chant."

So Prahlada Maharaja said that "I know..." Tvad-virya-gayana-mahamrta-magna-cittah. "I can... I have no problem because I have understood what is the value of chanting Your holy name. But I have got another business." What is that? Soce tato vimukha-cetasah: "I am simply concerned with these rascals who are not Krsna conscious." Soce tato vimukha-cetasah: "They are busy that maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan [SB 7.9.43]. These rascals, for maya-sukha, temporary material happiness, they have made very, very gorgeous arrangement," very, very big, big skyscraper building and very, very nice road, very, very nice car, and nice dress, nice this, nice nightclub, this club -- simply for maya-sukhaya. "This happiness is temporary. Still, they have forgotten Krsna, which will make their life successful and happy. They do not know." Maya-sukhaya bharam. Bharam means humbug, humbugism. Maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan [SB 7.9.43]. "Those who have arranged like that, these rascals," soce, "I am lamenting for them." This is Vaisnava. Para-duhkha-duhkhi krpambudhir yas tam aham prapadye.

So because you are preacher, you are being trained up to become preacher, especially in the Western countries, so it is your duty. I have several times requested you that "You American people, you are fortunate. Janmaisvarya-sruta-srih. You have got the four things. Now, because these people are misusing these four material gains simply for sense gratification, maya-sukhaya..." Maya-sukhaya means sense gratification. Maya... "They should be delivered from these clutches of maya, and they should take to Krsna consciousness." That is preaching. Preaching is required. That is the mission of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, certainly He took His birth here, but He did not remain here. He did not remain here. He could have remained here very easily. His influence was very great. He was known as Nimai Pandita, very learned scholar. Everyone knew. And He was very respectful. Otherwise, how He could gather 100,000 people in one day to go to the Kazi's house? That means He was very influential. But still, He... There was good wife, young wife, most affectionate mother. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu could stay at His birthplace very nicely without any difficulty. And what will be difficulty? He's Krsna Himself, Narayana Himself. And there was Laksmi. But still, to show the example personally, apani acari prabhu jivere sikhaya, He left home, He took sannyasa, and He preached.

So preaching is so important. And Krsna also says that,

ya idam paramam guhyam
mad-bhaktesv abhidhasyati
[Bg 18.68]

na ca tasman manusyesu
kascin me priya-krttamah
[Bg. 18.69]

So Krsna also, He was playing the part of ordinary human being, but He was, in His own life, He was demonstrating how Krsna comes here, what for He comes, why He took part in the Battlefield of Kuruksetra. These things are to be understood. Unless we understand these things, why Krsna came, why He took part in the battlefield -- and there are so many other things ordinarily done -- then, if we simply take Krsna as ordinary human being... Mudha, avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritam.. [Bg. 9.11].. Because He's playing the part of human being, if somebody derides, mudha, then it is vidambanam -- he'll be cheated. That is explained here: tavehamanasya nrnam vidambanam. Vidambana. They cannot understand. The devotees can understand. Kunti could understand that "Although Krsna is playing the part of human being, He is for everyone's good. He simply presents. As enemy or as friend, it is beneficial." Either He is playing the part of enemy or as friend, it is the same thing because He is absolute. In the Absolute world there is no such thing: "This is good; this is bad." Everything good in the absolute world. Krsna's killing is as good as Krsna's saving. It is the same thing.

So Kunti could understand. The devotees can understand. So He has no partiality. Nobody should misunderstand that Krsna has got partiality, no. This partiality and enmity, friendliness, these are material, duality. Here we cannot understand good unless there is bad. Therefore it is called relative world. We cannot understand father unless there is son. We cannot understand good man unless there is bad man. So these things, duality or relative world, they should exist in this material world. Therefore in order to approach to the spiritual world one should become above this duality, above this duality. This duality means the intermixture of the modes of material nature, traigunya. The Sanskrit word is traigunya. So Krsna advised Arjuna, nistraigunyo bhavarjuna. Traigunya-visaya veda nistraigunyo bhavarjuna. So how one can become above these nistraigunya, er, traigunya? You... Simply by devotional service, unalloyed devotional service. Anyone who is...

mam ca yo 'vyabhicarena
bhakti-yogena sevate
sa gunan samatityaitan
brahma-bhuyaya kalpate
[Bg. 14.26]

So we should be Krsna conscious, always engaged in His... (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.29 -- Mayapura, October 9, 1974

"Krsna Is Equal To Everyone"

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.28
Los Angeles, April 20, 1973

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Devotee:

manye tvam kalam isanam
anadi-nidhanam vibhum
samam carantam sarvatra
bhutanam yan mithah kalih

"My Lord, I consider Your Lordship to be eternal time, the Supreme Controller, without beginning and end, the all-pervasive one. In distributing Your mercy, You are equal to everyone. The dissensions between living beings are due to social intercourse."

Prabhupada: In the Bhagavad-gita Krsna says exactly the same thing. This is explained by Kunti, a devotee. The same thing is spoken by the Lord Himself. Samo 'ham sarva-bhutesu na me dvesyo 'sti na priyah, ye tu bhajanti mam bhaktya tesu te mayi. God cannot be partial. That is not possible. Everyone is God's son. So how God can be partial to one son and, better than the other son? That is not possible. That is our mistake. We write: "We trust in God," but we make discrimination. If you trust in God, then you must be equally kind and merciful to all living entities. That is God consciousness. So Krsna says: "I have no enemies, neither I have got friends." Na me dvesyo 'sti na priyah.

Dvesya means enemy. We, we are envious of our enemy and we are friendly to our friends. So Krsna is absolute. Even He appears to be inimical to some demon, actually He's friend. When a demon is killed, that means his demonic activities are killed. He becomes a saint immediately. Otherwise how he's promoted immediately to the brahmajyoti? All these demons who were killed by Krsna, they immediately merge into the brahmajyoti-nirvisesa. The only difference is, of course, the brahmajyoti, Paramatma and Bhagavan. They are one. Vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvam [SB 1.2.11]. That is one truth, Absolute Truth, in different features only. Brahmeti paramatmeti bhagavan iti sabdyate. Originally Bhagavan, His plenary representation is Paramatma who is situated in everyone's heart. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. The plenary portion Ksirodakasayi Visnu, He is in everyone's heart. That is Paramatma. And Brahman, Paramatma, and Bhagavan. The ultimate issue is Bhagavan. So ye yatha mam prapadyante. Now He's equal to everyone. It is up to the devotees or persons who are trying to understand the Supreme Absolute Truth. According to their capacity of understanding, the Absolute Truth, God, is revealed, either as impersonal Brahman or localized Paramatma or Bhagavan. It is up to me.

The same example as I have repeated many times. Just like we see sometimes the hills from our room. Here there are many hills in Los Angeles. But they are not distinct. When you are seeing the hills from a distant place, it looks like something cloudy. But if you go still further towards the hill, you'll distinctly find that there is something, hill. And if you come to the hill, then you'll find so many persons are working there, so many houses are there. There are streets, motorcars, everything, all varieties. So similarly, when one wants to know the Absolute Truth by his teeny brain, "I shall make research to find out the Absolute Truth," then you'll have vague idea, impersonal idea. And if you become a meditator, then you will find that God is situated within your heart. Dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam yoginah [SB 12.13.1]. The yogis, the real yogis, they, by meditation, they see visnu-murti within the heart. And those who are devotees, they meet the Supreme Person face to face just like we are meeting face to face, talk face to face, serve directly. The Supreme Personality of Godhead orders that: "You supply me this," and he supplies. That is the difference.

So samo 'ham sarva-bhutesu. He's equal to everyone. Now it is up to you to understand Him according to your capacity. So Kunti also says the same thing in this verse: samam carantam sarvatra. Samam carantam. Carantam means moving. He is moving everywhere, outside, inside, simply we have to make our eyes clear to see Him. That is devotional service, to make our senses purified to perceive the presence of God. God is present everywhere. Antar bahih. Antah means within and bahih means without. "Those who are less intelligent, they simply try to find out God within, and those who are advanced in intelligence, they can see You within and without." That is the difference.

Meditation is meant for the less intelligent class of men. Meditation means you have to control the senses. Yoga practice means yoga indriya-samyama. Our senses are very restless. By yoga practice, by, I mean to say, practicing different asanas, so mind is controlled, the senses are controlled. Then we can concentrate upon the form of Visnu with our heart. That is yoga system. Or those who are too much in bodily concept of life, for them the yoga system is recommended, practicing the bodily exercise, and find out the Supreme Lord within the heart. But bhaktas, those who are devotees, who are still more advanced, they don't require to control their senses separately, because to be engaged in devotional service means controlling the senses.

Suppose you are engaged in worshiping the Deity, in cleansing the room, in decorating the Deity, in making foodstuff for Deity, everything nicely... So your senses are already engaged. Where is the chance of your senses being diverted? The senses are already controlled. Because my senses, hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam bhaktir ucyate [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. Bhakti means simply to engage the senses in the service of the master of the senses. Hrsikesa means master of the senses, and hrsika means senses. So now our senses are engaged for sense gratification. Sarvopadhi, upadhi yuktah. So I am this body. So I must satisfy my senses. This is the contaminated stage of life. But when one comes to the understanding that I am not this body, I am spirit soul, part and parcel of God, so my senses, spiritual senses, should be engaged in the service of the Supreme Spiritual Being. That is wanted.

That is mukti. Mukti means: hitva anyatha-rupam. When we are conditioned, we give up our original constitutional position. Our original constitutional position is, as Caitanya Mahaprabhu says: jivera svarupa haya nitya-krsna-dasa [Cc. Madhya 20.108-109]. Our original constitutional position is that we are eternal servant of Krsna. So as soon as we employ ourself in the service of the Lord, immediately we become liberated. Immediately. there is no question of passing through some process. This very process, to engage oneself, engage one's senses in the service of the Lord, means he is liberated.

So this liberation is open for everyone. Samam carantam. Krsna does not say that: "You come to Me. You become liberated." No. He's open for everyone. He says: sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. He speaks to everyone. Not that He's speaking to Arjuna only. He's speaking to everyone. Bhagavad-gita is spoken not only for Arjuna. Arjuna is the, just like the target. But it is spoken for everyone, for all human beings. So one has to take advantage. Samam carantam. He's not partial that: "You become..." Just like the sunshine. The sunshine is not partial that: "Here is a poor man, here is a low-class man, here is a hog. I shall not distribute my shining there." No. Sun is equal. One has to take advantage of it. The sunshine is there open, but if you close your door, if you want to keep yourself in airtight darkness, that is your business.

Similarly Krsna is everywhere. Krsna is for everyone. Krsna is ready to accept you as soon as you surrender. Samam carantam. There is no restriction. Krsna says: mam hi partha vyapasritya ye 'pi syuh papa-yonayah [Bg. 9.32]. They make distinction that this is lower class, this is higher class. So Krsna says, "Even lower class, so-called lower class, it doesn't matter, if he takes to Me, then he's also eligible to go, come back to home, back to Godhead." Samam carantam.

And He's the eternal time. Everything is going on within the time. The time... Our time calculation is past present, and future. This is relative. The other day we were discussing. This past, present, future is relative term. The, for a small insect, the past, present and future is different from my past, present and future. Relative term. Similarly Brahma's past, present and future is different from my past, present and future. But Krsna has no past, present and future. Therefore He's eternal. We have got past, present and future because we change this body. Now we have got this body... It has got a date. In such and such date I was born by my father and mother. Now this body will stay for some time. It will grow. It will produce some by-product. Then it will become old. Then dwindle. Then vanish, finish. No more this body. You accept another body. this body's finished. The history of this body, past, present, and future, finished. You accept another body. Again your past, present and future begins. But Krsna has no past, present, futures because He does not change His body. That is the difference between ourself and Krsna.

Just like Krsna spoke to Arjuna that: "In the past, I spoke to the Sun-god about this philosophy, Bhagavad-gita." So Arjuna could not believe it. Arjuna knew everything, but for our, our education, he put this question that: "Krsna, we are contemporary, we are born practically in the same period. How can I believe that You spoke this philosophy to the Sun-god?" And the reply was that: "My dear Arjuna, you were also present there, but you have forgotten. I have not forgotten. That is the difference." Past, present, future, for persons who forget. But who does not forget, who remains eternally, there is no past, present, future.

Therefore, Kunti is addressing Krsna as eternal. Manye tvam kalam. And because He is eternal, isanam, He is full controller. Kunti says: manye, "I think..." By the behavior of Krsna, she could understand that Krsna is eternal, Krsna is the Supreme Controller. Anadi-nidhanam. Anadi-nidhana... There is no beginning, there is no end. Therefore vibhum. Vibhu means the Supreme, the greatest. Vibhu. We are anu, we are smallest, and Krsna is the biggest. Krsna is also, because we are part and parcel of Krsna. Therefore Krsna is both the smallest and the biggest. We are simply smallest. But Krsna is both. Krsna, vibhu, greatest means all-inclusive. In the great, if you have got a big bag, you can hold so many things. In small bag you cannot do that.

So Krsna is vibhu. He includes the time, past, present and future. He includes everything and He's everywhere. That is vibhu. Vibhu, all-pervading. Krsna is everywhere. Andantara-stha-paramanu-cayantara-stham. In the Brahma-samhita it is said that Krsna... Because without Krsna, the matter cannot develop. The scientists, the atheist scientists, they say that life comes out of matter. That is nonsense. No. Matter is one energy of Krsna, and spirit is another energy. The spirit is superior energy, and the matter is inferior energy. The matter develops when there is superior energy.

Just like this country, America. The same America was two hundred years ago, three hundred years ago, the land, but it was not developed. But because some superior living entities from Europe came here, now America is so much developed. Therefore the cause of development is the superior energy. The inferior energy, there are so many vacant land lying still. Just like in Africa, Australia. They're called "undeveloped." Why undeveloped? Because the superior energy, living entity, has not touched it. As soon as the superior energy, living entity, will touch it, the same land will develop so many factories, houses, cities, roads, cars, everything, as we can develop.

Therefore the conclusion is that matter cannot develop out of itself. No. That is not possible. The superior energy must touch it. Then it will be, will, active. There are so many machines. That is matter. Inferior energy. Unless a operator comes to touch the machine, it will not act. First-class motor car, very costly motor car machine, but unless a driver comes, it will stand for millions of years there. There is no use. This common sense is lacking. The matter cannot work independently unless the superior energy, living entity, touches it. This is common sense. So how these rascal scientists say that life develops from matter? No. How it can be concluded? There is no such instances. They falsely say that... They do not have sufficient knowledge.

So these universes, they have also developed on account of Krsna's presence. Therefore Brahma-samhita says: andantara-stha-paramanu-cayantara-s... They are studying now atoms. So many things are going on, electrons, protons, Why? Because the Krsna is there. This is really science. So Krsna has no past, present and future. He is eternal time. He has no beginning. He has no end. And He is equal to everyone. Samam carantam. Simply we have to prepare ourself to see Krsna, to understand Krsna. That is the business of Krsna consciousness.

Thank you very much. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.28 -- Los Angeles, April 20, 1973

"Don't Be A 'Skin Observer"

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.28
Mayapura, October 8, 1974

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Prabhupada:

manye tvam kalam isanam
anadi-nidhanam vibhum
samam carantam sarvatra
bhutanam yan mithah kalih

The Kuntidevi is presenting his (her) conception of Krsna, or God consciousness. Perfectly he's (she's) presenting that samam carantam sarvatra: "Krsna, or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is present everywhere. And He is equal, equally merciful or... In everything He equal to everyone." Just like the sun. The sun is equally distributing the sunshine. Now, in some country, we find there is cloud; sun is covered. There is no sunshine. The sun is shining, but due to our misfortune or something else, the sun is covered, and we cannot see. It is not that the sunshine is stopped. Sunshine is there. Similarly, Krsna's mercy is equally there. Samo 'ham sarva-bhutesu.

In another verse in the Bhagavad-gita, Krsna says, samo 'ham sarva bhutesu: "I am equal to everyone." Otherwise, how He can be God? God is not partial, that He is merciful upon me and not merciful upon you. God cannot be like that. Just like a state, government. Government is equal to everyone, all citizens. But why somebody is going to the university to take his M.A. degree, and why one is going to the prison house to be imprisoned and suffering for so many years and...? It is not the government's partiality, that somebody go to the prison house and somebody will go to the university and occupy responsible position. No. It is our fault that we do not take opportunity or the facilities offered by the government or Krsna. It is our fault. Why there are so many discrepancies and nonequality? Somebody is very rich; somebody is very poor. Somebody is eating stool, and somebody eating nice prasadam, halava. It is all due to the living entity's karma. Otherwise, God is equal to everyone. Samam carantam sarvatra. God is not partial. Just like nowadays, these rascals, they say, "Why God is unkind to the poor man?" No. God is not unkind to the poor man. The poor man, he has become poor by his karma. Karmana daiva-netrena.

Daiva-netrena. Daiva means superior, or godly. Netrena. Netrena means by the eyes, or netrena, by the leadership, leadership, or superintendence. Whatever we are doing... Because God is everywhere situated... Samam carantam sarvatra. Krsna is there, everywhere. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese arjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. Isvara, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is situated in everyone's heart. So we cannot conceal anything from God. In another place it is said, "Just like the sun is the eye of God..." Yac-caksur esa savita sakala-grahanam. Savita. Savita means sun, Surya, is the eye of Govinda. So if you are doing something, any part of the world, the sun is seeing. This is a crude example. Similarly, at night the moon is seeing, and Krsna says that raso 'ham apsu kaunteya prabhasmi sasi-suryayoh. So Krsna... The sunshine is also Krsna. So if you think that "I am doing something for my sense gratification. Nobody is seeing. I am stealing some sugarcane from the field, and nobody's seeing," but how you can say nobody's seeing? The sun is seeing. How you can conceal? "No, I shall do it at night." Oh, the moon is seeing. So how can you conceal?

So parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate. He is so omnipotent that He can see from anywhere and everywhere what you are doing, what you are willing, what you want to do. You cannot conceal. That is not possible. Therefore it is said, daiva-netrena. You can bluff the material police, but you cannot bluff Krsna. That is not possible. If you are doing anything wrong, then it is being seen by the Supreme Personality. Samam carantam. He's everywhere. Therefore those who are God conscious, as theists... That is the Indian culture. They think, "I am doing this nonsense. Krsna, God, will see it." Even a... Even in ordinary person who has no education, still, he will admit, uparala dekhega(?): "God will see." That's a fact. That's a fact. So if everyone is God conscious, that "God is everywhere," then how he can act sinfully? It is not possible. If he is God conscious, if he knows that "God is everywhere, and He will see if I do something sinful by bluffing others..."

Therefore God consciousness is so important. If Krsna consciousness movement is spread and if it is taken by all people, then so many things will be automatically reformed. There will be no need of police. There will be no need of C.I.D. Because if one is God conscious, he'll not do anything wrong. But because people are not God conscious, they are doing so many wrong things that is has been almost impossible to govern the people. Therefore Krsna consciousness movement is very essential to understand this fact, that samam carantam sarvatra bhutanam yan mithah kalih. We have created so many religious system, so many religious system. And the Hindu is fighting with the Muslim, Muslim is fighting with the Hindu, that "My religion is better than your religion." Or any other, other countries also, the Jews fighting with the Christian; Christian, Jews; and the black fighting with the white; white fighting with the black. This Kali, that is the result of this material existence. Samsara-davanala-lidha-loka **. That is the work of this material nature. Even if you want to live very peacefully, you'll not be allowed to live. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya durat... [Bg. 7.14]. It is not a place to live very peacefully. But if you think artificially that "We are very happy. We are advanced in material civilization and we have very comfortable life," where is comfort? There cannot be any comfort. Therefore it is the duty of maya to remind you, always putting you in distressed condition. Duhkhalayam asasvatam [Bg. 8.15]. It is God... You cannot live peacefully, happily, within the prison house. Because you are condemned to this prison life, you cannot expect very comfortable life there.

So samam carantam... This God is equally kind, equally merciful, but we fight. We, I mean to say, disagree in religious principle. That is due to Kali. Not this Kali. Kali means due to our fighting spirit. It is not God. God is equal to everyone. We fight because we have got misconception. So we think that this religion is better than that religion, or that religion is better than... Every religion must be good, provided one is God conscious. We say that. So many people question in the Western countries, "Whether one can attain perfection by following Christian religion?" Why not? You can also attain. But who is following? First of all, let me see who is following Christian religion. The Christian religion says in the beginning, first commandment, "Thou shalt not kill," and you are simply killing. So where is Christian? Christian religion is not bad. No religion is bad. But where is Christian? Where is Hindu? They are all godless rascals. Therefore there is misunderstanding. Otherwise, if everyone is God conscious, if everyone knows that God is present everywhere, "Whatever I do, He will see. He'll see as sunshine. He'll see as moonshine. He'll see as water..." Raso 'ham apsu kaunteya. No... Who can avoid water? Who can avoid sunshine? Who can avoid moonshine? Nobody can. So God says, "These things are I am." Raso 'ham apsu kaunteya prabhasmi sasi-suryayoh. So how you can avoid God's vigilance? Then how you can commit sinful... They do not believe in -- godlessness. They do not believe in existence of God. They have been taught like that, and they do not know what is God.

This is the misfortune of the present civilization. Present godless civilization... Therefore they have created simply chaotic situation all over the world. Therefore the movement, Krsna consciousness movement, is very, very important and essential. Those who are sober, they are understanding it. Just like in Australia, the priestly class, they understood that this movement is trying to (?) people to see towards God, back to Godhead. You have advanced in civilization by so-called material advancement, scientific..., but what you have done? You have created simply chaos. Therefore we say... Our magazine is named Back to Godhead. "Now you have finished your business -- now see back to Godhead." Just like if you do not see the sun, if you keep the sun backside, then you'll simply see a long shadow of your body, black shadow. That's all. But if you turn towards the sun, you'll not see the black shadow; you'll see all light. Simply you have to turn. So we have named this Back to Godhead very scientifically. You see towards God; then everything is light. "Where there is God, there is no nescience."

This is not manufactured. There is some verse in the Caitanya...

krsna -- surya-sama; maya haya andhakara
yahan krsna tahan nahi mayara adhikara

Krsna surya-sama. Krsna is just like sun. There is no darkness. Can you expect any darkness in the sun planet? No. There is no possibility. Sun planet is always bright. So similarly, this is the example of the spiritual world, the sun planet, krsna surya-sama. So if you go to the spiritual world, then everything is bright. Na tad bhasayate suryo na sasanko na pavakah [Bg. 15.6]. That is the description of the spiritual world. Na tad bhasayate suryah. In the spiritual world, there is no need of sun because everyone is brilliant; every planet is brilliant.

yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti-
kotisv asesa-vasudhadi-vibhuti-bhinnam
tad brahma niskalam anantam asesa-bhutam
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami
[Bs. 5.40]

Everything is there. So if we become Krsna conscious, there cannot be any darkness. There cannot be any ignorance. There cannot be any sinful life. Everything bright, everything peaceful. Therefore we must take to Krsna consciousness if we want to save from the clutches of maya. And that is also confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita:

daivi hy esa gunamayi
mama maya duratyaya
mam eva ye prapadyante
mayam etam taranti te
[Bg. 7.14]

This is the process.

So Krsna, manye tvam kalam isanam. Eternal time. We are calculating past, present and future, but actually in the spiritual world, there is no such thing as past, present and future. We therefore sometimes question that "Wherefrom God came?" So many odd questions they say. But God is eternally existing. That is the fact. We cannot understand that. Because we are in the material world, we have no experience of the eternity, what is eternity. We have no experience. We see everything as generated, and then it stays for some time, then it is finished. That is our experience. Janma, mrtyu, vrddhi. They have... They have made past, present and future, but it is divided into six development. One takes birth, then it develops, then it stays for some time, then it produces some by-product, then diminishes, and then, I mean to say, finished. Sad-vikara. Sad-vikara. This body, sad-vikara. So eternity, eternity means there is no sad-vikara, the six kinds of changes. There is no birth. There is no death. There is no diminishing. There is no by-product. Everything eternal, eternally existing.

So that kalam, that eternal time, is Krsna. Tvam. Manye: "I think that eternal time, You are, Krsna." That's the fact. And isanam. Isanam means the Supreme Controller. Isvarah paramah krsnah [Bs. 5.1]. Controller means isvara; isvara means controller. He's the Supreme Controller. He's controlling the whole creation. Isanam. Kalam isanam. But who is controlling Him? No, He is not controlled. Anadi -- beginningless. Neither endless or beginningless, anadi or nidhanam. And vibhum, the Supreme. This is the understanding of Krsna. We have to take lessons from authorities. Here is Kunti, authority. Therefore his (her) statements are recorded in the sastra. What is sastra? Sastra means, is, the record of the statement of authorities. That is called sastra. Just like in law court, you put lawbooks. What is that lawbook? Lawbook means the statement of the authorities. Similarly, sastra... Sastra means sas-dhatu. Sastra. Sastra means weapon, and sastra means the lawbooks. So what is the lawbook? Lawbook means some authority which has given the law. So the government gives law. So similarly, sastra means the statement given by the authorities.

So Kunti is authority. Kunti is authority. How she has become authority? Because she has followed the authorities, Brahma, Narada, Svayambhu... Svayambhur naradah sambhuh kapilah kumaro manuh [SB 6.3.20]. Those who are strictly following the statements of the authorities, they are also authorities. Just like who is a lawyer? Lawyer is he who has studied law very nicely and following the law. That is lawyer, good lawyer. And third-class lawyer means one who does not know how to follow it. Good lawyer in the court -- who can give reference from the lawbooks: "My Lord, you refer to such and such section of such and such law book, and you will find what I am stating." And the judge, when he sees: "Yes, it is all...," then his case is owned. So authority. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. Mahajana. Authority means mahajana. Ordinary, common people is called jana, ordinary man. And those who are authority, they are mahajana. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah.

So the statements of Kunti is recorded here, Srimad-Bhagavatam, not that he's (she's) ordinary woman. Otherwise her statements should not have been mentioned in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. So we have to accept what Kunti says,

manye tvam kalam isanam
anadi-nidhanam vibhum
samam carantam sarvatra
bhutanam yan mithah kalih

So misunderstanding of God... There is no misunderstanding of the authorities. The misunderstanding, the common man... Just like in Australia, when I spoke, there was no misunderstanding. There was agreement by the priests and myself. There was complete agreement. (aside:) You were with me? Or... No. You were not. They, after hearing my lecture for one hour, they agreed and clapped for ten minutes. So there cannot be any misun... Those who are actually... They questioned, "What is your opinion of Lord Jesus Christ?" and I said, "He preached God consciousness. He's our guru. Anyone who preaches the message of God, he is guru." So they very much appreciated, and actually it is so. Vaisnava who is preaching, it may be in a different way, according to time and place and the party -- they have to change something, desa-kala-patra -- but we have to see the essence. Wherever there is God consciousness, wherever is there understanding... Just like we sometime consult dictionary, a small dictionary, pocket dictionary, and a big international dictionary. Both of them are dictionaries. But according to time, desa-kala-patra, for small child, that small dictionary is sufficient. Higher mathematics: higher mathematics and lower class ma... But the two plus two is always the same, in higher mathematics or lower mathematics. It is not that in the higher mathematics two plus two equal to five, no.

So the principle is the same. It is the distinction of desa-kala-patra, things are... Just like the statement in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, they are meant for highly developed conscious persons. They are not for ordinary persons. Paramo nirmatsaranam satam vastavam vastu vedyam atra srimad-bhagavatam, paramo nirmatsaranam. People are envious, envious: "Oh, he's Christian," "He's Muhammadan," "He is this," "He is that." No. A paramo nirmatsara, paramahamsa, he does not see, "He is Muhammadan," "He is Christian," "He is Jew." Panditah sama-darsinah [Bg. 5.18]. He will see everyone equal, the part and parcel of God, Krsna. Mamaivamsa. He says this... Krsna says, mamaivamso jiva-bhutah: [Bg. 15.7] "All living entities are My part and parcel." Why he shall take the skin? Because the skin is made by Muhammadan or the skin is made by Christian or skin is made by Hindu... He's not the skin-observer. He is observed the within. Dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam jara [Bg. 2.13]. Within this body the spirit soul is there. This is the education of spiritual education in the beginning -- just see inside, introspective, not outward seeing. Those who are seeing outwardly, yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatu..., they are asses.

So one should be advanced by hearing the authorities, that God is equal to him. I say why there should be Hindu religion and Muslim religion or Christian religion? There cannot be. Just like gold is gold. And nobody can say, "This is Indian gold, this is American gold, this is Christian gold, and this is Muhammadan gold." Gold is gold. So actually one who is God conscious, for him, there is no such distinction, because he knows, samam carantam sarvatra bhutanam: "God is present everywhere." Simply he has forgotten. That forgetfulness is applicable to anyone, either Hindu, Muslim or Christian. It doesn't matter. The, our business is to rectify that forgetfulness. Rectify. To remove that forgetfulness. This is Krsna consciousness movement.

Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.28 -- Mayapura, October 8, 1974

"Predominator To Predominated"

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.27
Los Angeles, April 19, 1973

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Devotee:

namo 'kincana vittaya
nivrtta-guna-vrttaye
atmaramaya santaya
kaivalya-pataye namah

"My obeisances are unto You, who are the property of the materially impoverished. You have nothing to do with the actions and reaction of the material modes of nature. You are self-satisfied, and therefore You are the most gentle and are master of the monists."

Prabhupada: So namah akincana-vittaya. Materially impoverished. This is the first qualification of a devotee. One who does not possess anything of this material world, he simply possess Krsna. That is akincana-vitta. Akincana means one who has lost everything of material possession. Because if you have got a, a small tinge of idea that "I want to become happy materially in this way," so long you have to accept a body.

The nature is so kind that in whichever way you want to enjoy this material world, she will give you a suitable body under the direction of the Lord. Because Lord is situated everyone's heart. So He knows everything, that you still want something material. He will give you. "Yes, you take it." Krsna wants that you get full experience that by material gain, you'll never be happy. This is Krsna's business. It's full freedom. Although we have got minute quantity of freedom, because we are part and parcel of Krsna. Krsna has got full freedom, but the freedom quality is there in me because I am part and parcel of Krsna. The chemical composition. The drop of sea water has got a drop of salt also. Although it is not comparable with the salt containing in the sea water. But the salt chemical is there. This is our understanding. Janmady asya yatah [SB 1.1.1]. Whatever we have got in minute quantity, the same thing, in fullness is there in Krsna. In fullness. Just like Krsna says: mrtyuh sarva-haras ca aham.

Now we have got a propensity to take other's thing. You can say it is stealing. We have got that propensity. Why? Now Krsna has got. Krsna is known as the Butter-thief. The beginning, thiefing, stealing. So unless that stealing propensity's there, how I can get? But Krsna's stealing and my stealing is different. Because I am materially contaminated, therefore my stealing is abominable. Whereas the same stealing in the spiritual absolute platform is so nice that enjoyable. Mother Yasoda enjoying the activities of stealing by Krsna. That is the difference. Material and spiritual. Any activities spiritual, that is all good, and any activity, material, that is all bad. This is the difference. Here, the so-called morality, goodness, they're all bad. And in the spiritual world, so-called immorality is also good. That you have to understand.

Just like to dance with others' wives at dead of night, this is immoral. Everyone knows. At least in the Vedic civilization, it is not allowed. A young woman is going to another young man at dead of night to dance with him. This will never be allowed in India. Still it is prohibited. But we find that all the gopis as soon as they heard the flute immediately they came. So from material conception it is immoral, but from the spiritual conception, it is the greatest morality. Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu says: ramya kacid upasana vraja-vadhu-vargena ya kalpita. "Oh, there is no better mode of worship than what was conceived by the vraja-vadhus, the damsels of Vrndavana." Caitanya Mahaprabhu was very strict about women. In His family life also, He never played any joke with women. He was very joking. But all, all with men. He never played any joke with women. No. Perhaps only once He played joke with His wife, Visnu-priya. When Sacimata was searching after something, she, He simply played a joking word: "Maybe your daughter-in-law has taken it." That is the only joking we find in His whole life. Otherwise, He was very strict. No woman could come, when He was sannyasi, could come hear Him to offer obeisances. They would offer obeisances from a distant place. But He says: ramya kacid upasana vraja-vadhu-vargena ya kalpita. He says that there is no conception of worshiping better than what was conceived by the vraja-vadhus. And what was the vraja-vadhus' conception? That they wanted to love Krsna, at any risk. So this is not immoral. That we have to understand. Anything in relationship.

Just like Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja is standing, and his father is being killed. Is it moral? Would you like to see your father being killed in your presence and you stand. You don't protest. Is that moral? Nobody will approve it, that this is moral. But actually it so happened that Hiranyakasipu was being killed... The picture is here. And Prahlada Maharaja is trying to garland -- the killer. "My dear Lord, Killer, You take this garland. You are killing my father. You are very good boy." You see. This is, this is spiritual understanding. Nobody will sanction that you, if you cannot protect your father, you must protest, you must cry that: "Here is my father is being killed. Come on, come on, come on. Help..." No. He's prepared with the garland. And when he was killed, he said to Nrsimhadeva: "My dear Lord, now my father is killed. So everyone is happy. You now wind up Your angry mood." Nobody is unhappy. He said this very word. Modeta sadhur api vrscika-sarpa-hatya. Modeta sadhur api. A sadhu, a saintly person never approves that one should be killed. Never. Even an animal. A sadhu does not approve. Why animal should be killed? That is sadhu's business. But Prahlada Maharaja says: modeta sadhur api. A sadhu, a saintly person, is also pleased... When? When a scorpion or a snake is killed. They're also living entity. A sadhu is never satisfied seeing another living entity being killed, but Prahlada Maharaja says "Even a sadhu is pleased when a snake is killed or a scorpion is killed. So my father is just like snake and scorpion. So he's killed. Therefore everyone is happy." Everyone was... Such demon, who simply troubles the devotees, such demon, a very dangerous demon. So when such demon is killed, even saintly persons are satisfied. Although saintly persons, they do not want anybody should be killed. So Krsna is akincana-vitta. One who has lost everything materially, for him, Krsna is the only solace.

So Krsna is so kind that if anyone wants material prosperity, and, at the same time, wants to become a devotee... That is stated in the Caitanya-caritamrta that: "Somebody wants Me. At the same time, he wants material prosperity. He's a fool. He's a fool." Therefore people are very much afraid, coming to Krsna consciousness. "Oh, my material prosperity will be finished." Because they want, don't, do not want that. They want to stick to... Generally, they go to church, go to temple for material prosperity. "God give us our daily bread." This is material prosperity. Or "Give me this, give me that." But they're also considered as pious because they have approached God.

The atheist class, they do not approach. They say: "Why shall I approach God? I shall create my wealth, by advancement of science, I shall be happy." They are duskrtinah, most sinful, one who says like that, that: "For my prosperity, I shall depend on my own strength, my own knowledge." They are duskrtinah. But one who thinks that "My prosperity depends on the mercy of God," they're pious. They're pious. Because, after all, without sanction of God, nothing can be achieved. That's a fact. Tavad tanur idam tanupeksitanam(?). That is also statement of That we have discovered so many counter-acting methods for diminishing our distressed condition, but if it is not sanctioned by God, these counteracting proposition will fail.

The example is... Just like you have discovered nice medicine, very qualified physician. That's all right. But when a man is sick, ask the physician: "Can you guarantee the life of this patient?" He'll never say: "No, I can do so. I cannot do that. I try my best. That's all." That means the sanction is in the hand of God. "I am simply instrument. If God does not like that you should live, then all my medicines, all my scientific knowledge, medical knowledge, will fail." The ultimate sanction is Krsna's. They, the foolish persons, they do not know. They are, they are, therefore they are called mudha, rascals. That whatever you are doing, that is very good, but, ultimately, if it is not sanctioned by God, by Krsna, this will be all failure. They do not know that. Therefore they are mudhas. And a devotee knows that: "Whatever intelligence, I have got, I may try to become happy, if Krsna does not sanction, I'll never be happy." This is the distinction between devotee and nondevotee.

So Krsna says that: "Anyone who is trying to approach Me, to become Krsna conscious, at the same time, he wants to become materially happy, he's not very intelligent." That means he's wasting his time. Our main business is how to become Krsna conscious. This is the main business of human life. But if we waste our time for material improvement, and forget chanting, then that is loss, great loss. So such mentality, Krsna says: ami vijna ei murkhe visaya kene diba. "So this rascal is asking some material prosperity from Me by discharging devotional service. Why shall I give him material prosperity? Rather, whatever he has got, I shall take it away." Yes. (laughter) It is not laughing. When it is taken away, we become very morose. But that is the test. That is stated by Krsna Himself to Yudhisthira Maharaja: yasyaham anugrhnami harisye tad dhanam sanaih.

Yudhisthira Maharaja indirectly inquired from Krsna that: "We are completely dependent on you, and still we are suffering materially so much, that our kingdom is taken away, our wife is insulted, we were attempted to be burned in a house." So Krsna said: "Yes that is My first business." Yasyaham anugrhnami harisye tad dhanam sanaih. "If I specially favor anybody, then I take away all his sources of income." Very dangerous. Yes. I have got my practical experience in this connection. Yes. That is Krsna's special favor. I do not wish to narrate, but it is a fact. It is a fact. My Guru Maharaja ordered me when I was twenty-five years old that: "You go and preach." But I thought: "First of all, I shall become a rich man, and I shall use that money for preaching work."

So that's a long history. I got good opportunity for becoming very rich man in business. And some astrologer told me that: "You should have become like Birla." So there was some chances, very good chances. I was manager in a big chemical factory. I started my own factory, the business was very successful. But everything was dismantled. I was forced to come to this position to carry out my order of my Guru Maharaja. Akincana-vittaya. When everything was finished, then I took Krsna, that: "You are the only..." Therefore Krsna is akincana-vitta. When one becomes finished of all his material opulences

And now I am realizing that I have not lost. I've gained. I've gained. That's a fact. So to lose material opulences for Krsna's sake is not loss. It is the greatest gain. Therefore it is said: akincana-vitta. When one becomes akincana, nothing to possess, everything finished, then Krsna becomes the only riches for such person. Because he's devotee. Just like Narottama dasa Thakura says:

ha ha prabhu nanda-suta, vrsabhanu-suta-juta
karuna karaha ei-bara
narottama-dasa koy, na theliha ranga pay
toma bine ke ache amara

This position, that: "Krsna, except Yourself, I have nothing to claim. I have nothing, no possession. So don't neglect me because You are my only possession." This position is very nice. When we do not depend on anything material, simply depend on Krsna. That is first-class position of Krsna consciousness. Therefore Krsna is addressed: akincana-vittaya. "When one becomes impoverished materially, You are the only wealth." Akincana-vittaya. Namah akincana-vitta,... nivrtta-guna-vrttaye. "The result is that when one takes You as the only possession, immediately he becomes free from the activities of this material nature." That means immediately he's posted on the transcendental position of the Absolute. Akincana-vittaya nivrtta-guna-vrttaye, atmaramaya. "At that time, he becomes happy with You, as You are Krsna, You are happy with Yourself..."

Because Krsna has no difference between body and self. He's simply self, spirit soul. So we have got now this body and self. I am self, but I possess this body. Then when actually we become dependent on Krsna, as Krsna is self-satisfied, similarly we can e also self-satisfied with Krsna. Kaivalya, kaivalya-pataye namah. The Mayavadi philosophers, they, monists, they want to become one with the Supreme. As Supreme is self-satisfied, they also want to be self-satisfied by becoming one with the Supreme. Our philosophy is also the same, kaivalya. But we depend on Krsna. We do not become one with, one with Krsna. That is oneness. If we simply agree to abide by the order of Krsna, there is no disagreement, that is oneness.

These Mayavadi philosophers, they think that: "Why shall I keep my individual, separate existence? I shall become merged into..." That is not possible. Because we are created, not created, from the very beginning... We are separated part and parcel. We are separated parts and parcels. therefore Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita: "My dear Arjuna, you, Me, and all these persons who have assembled in this battlefield, we were in the past individuals. We are, at present, individuals, and in the future, we shall continue to remain as individuals. We are all individual." Nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam. He's the Supreme nitya, Supreme Living Force amongst many, innumerable living forces. We are jiva, innumerable, ananta. There is no counting how many we are. Sa anantyaya kalpate. So this ananta, innumerable living entities, and Krsna is also a living entity, but He's the chief. That is the difference. Nityo nityana...

Just like there is leader. Leader is one, and followers, there are many. Similarly Krsna is the Supreme Living Entity, and we are subordinate, dependent living entities. That is the difference. Dependent, we can understand, if Krsna does not supply us food, we starve. That's a fact. We cannot produce anything. Eko yo bahunam vidadhati kaman. So Krsna is maintaining, and we are being maintained. Therefore Krsna shall be the predominator, and we shall be predominated. That is our natural constitutional position. Therefore if we want to become predominator falsely in this material world, that is illusion, That we must give up. That we must give up. We shall always try to become predominated by Krsna. That is successful life.

Thank you very much. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.27 -- Los Angeles, April 19, 1973

"KC Communism"

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.26
Los Angeles, April 18, 1973

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Devotee:

janmaisvarya-sruta-sribhir
edhamana-madah puman
naivarhaty abhidhatum vai
tvam akincana-gocaram

"My Lord, Your Lordship can easily be approached, but only by those who are materially exhausted. One who is on the path of material progress, trying to improve himself with respectable parentage, great opulence, high education and bodily beauty, cannot approach You with sincere feeling."

Prabhupada: So these are the disqualifications. Material opulence, these things... Janma, to take birth in very aristocratic family or nation. Just like you American boys and girls, you are born of rich father, mother, nation. So this is, in one sense, it is God's grace. That is also... To take birth in nice family or in nice nation, to become opulent, very rich, to become advanced in knowledge, education, all, everything material. And beauty, these are the gifts of pious activities. Otherwise, why a poor man, he does not attract anyone's attention. But a rich man attracts. A educated man attracts the attention. A fool, rascal, does not attract attention. So similarly in beauty, in opulence, these things are materially very beneficial. Janmaisvarya-sruta.

But when a person is materially opulent in this way, he becomes intoxicated. "Oh, I am rich man. I am educated man. I have got money." Become intoxicated. Therefore we advise... Because they're already intoxicated by these possessions. And again intoxication? Then, by nature, these people are already intoxicated. Intoxicated in this sense... Just like if you drink wine, you become intoxicated. You are flying in the sky. You are thinking like that. You have gone to the heaven. Yes. So these are the effects of intoxication. But the intoxicated person does not know that these intoxication, intoxication will be finished. It is within the time limit. It is not going to continue. That is called illusion. One is intoxication, that "I am very rich. I am very educated, I am very beautiful, I am very..., I am born in high family, in high nation." That's all right. But these intoxication, how long it will exist?

Suppose you are American. You are rich, you are beautiful. You are advanced in knowledge, and you are, you can be proud of become American. But how long this intoxication will exist? As soon as this body's finished, everything is finished. All, all intoxication. Just like... Same thing. You drink something, become intoxicated. But as soon as that intoxication is over, all your intoxicated dreams are over, finished. So this intoxication, if you remain in intoxication, hover in the sky and mental platform... These are mental platform, egoistic platform. Bodily platform.

But you are not this body, not this gross body and the subtle body. This gross body is made of earth, water, air, fire, sky, and the subtle body is made of mind, intelligence and ego. But you do not belong to these eight elements, apareyam. In the Bhagavad-gita. This is inferior energy of God. Even one is very mentally advanced, he does not know that he's under the influence of inferior energy. He does not know. That is intoxication. Just like intoxicated person does not know in what condition he is. So this opulent position is intoxication. And if you increase your intoxication... The modern civilization is that we are already intoxicated and increase the intoxication. We have to become out of the intoxication situation, but the modern civilization is increasing, that "You become more intoxicated, more intoxicated, and go to hell." This is the position of the modern civilization.

So Kunti says that this intoxication position, madah, edhamana-madah, increasing, puman, such person, naivarhati, they cannot feelingly address: "Jaya Radha-Madhava." They cannot feelingly. That is not possible. Their feeling, spiritual feeling, is lost. They cannot feelingly address because they do not know. "Oh, this God is for poor man. They cannot sufficient food. Let them go to the church and ask: ‘Oh, God, give us our daily bread.' We have got enough bread. Why shall I go to church?" This is their opinion. Therefore nowadays, in the days of economic development, nobody's interested in going to the church or temple. "What this nonsense? Why shall I go to the church for asking bread? We shall develop economic condition and there will be sufficient supply of bread."

Just like Communist country, they do so. The Communist country, they make propaganda. In the villages. They ask the people to go to the church and ask for bread. They, innocent people, they ask as usual: "Oh God, give us our daily bread." Then when they come out of the church, these Communist people ask: "Have you got bread?" They say: "No sir." "All right, ask us." And then they ask: "Oh Communist friend, give me bread." And the Communist friend has taken a truckload of bread: "Take, as much as you like, take." "So who is better? We are better or your God is better?" They say: "No sir, you are better." Because they have no intelligence. They do not inquire that: "You rascal, wherefrom you have brought this bread? Have you manufactured in your factory. Can you manufacture grains, the ingredients of bread, in your factory?" Because they have no intelligence.

Sudra, they are called sudra. Sudra means those who have no intelligence. They take it, as it is. But one who is brahmana, one who is advanced in intelligence, he'll inquire immediately: "You rascal, wherefrom you brought this bread?" That is the question of the brahmana. You cannot manufacture bread. You have simply transformed God's grain... The grain, the wheat is given by God, and you have simply transformed. But transforming something from something, that does not become your property.

Just like I give some carpenter some wood, some implement, and salary. And he makes a very nice, beautiful closet. To whom this closet will belong. To the carpenter, or the man who has supplied the ingredients? To whom it will belong? The carpenter cannot say that: "Because I have transformed this wood into such nice closet, it is mine." No. It is not yours. Similarly who is supplying the ingredient, rascal? That is Krsna's. Krsna says: bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh kham mano buddhir eva... prakrtir me astadha. "This is My property." You have not created this sea, the land, the sky, the fire, the air. It is not your creation. You can transform these material things, tejo-vari-mrdam vinimayah, by mixing and transforming. You take earth from the land, you take water from the sea and mix it and put it in the fire. It becomes a brick. And then you pile up all this brick and make a skyscraper building. But wherefrom you got this ingredient, rascal, that you are claiming this skyscraper yours? This is intelligent question. You have stolen the property of God, and you are claiming that it is your property. This is knowledge. This is knowledge.

So these who are intoxicated, they cannot understand. They think: "It is my property. I have stolen, I have stolen this land of America from the Red Indians. Now it is my property." But he does not know that he's a thief. He's thief. Stena eva sa ucyate. In the Bhagavad-gita. One who takes the property of God, and claims his own, he's a thief. Stena eva sa ucyate. Therefore we have got communistic idea, the devotee, Krsna conscious person. We have got Krsna conscious communistic program. What is that? That everything belongs to God. Just like they are thinking that everything belongs to the state. These communists, these Moscow, Moscowites, or the Russian, or the Chinese, they are thinking state-wise. But we are thinking not state-wise. We are thinking God-wise. Everything belongs to God. The same philosophy. You extend. Simply you require little intelligence, little intelligence. Why do you think that this state belongs to a few number of people? If you think that there are population, American population, this land of America belongs to this population. Why do you think like that? You think this is property of God.

So every living entity is a child of God. God is the Supreme Father. Krsna says: aham bija-pradah pita. "I am the seed-giving father of all living entities." Sarva-yonisu kaunteya [Bg. 14.4]. "In whichever form they may live, they're all living entities, they're My sons." Actually that is the fact. We all living entities, we are sons of God. But we have forgotten. Therefore we are fighting. Just like in a nice family, if anyone knows: "Father is supplying us food. So we brothers, why should we fight?" Similarly if we become God conscious, if we become Krsna conscious, this fighting will be over. "I am American, I am Indian, I am Russian, I am Chinese." These all nonsense things will be over. Krsna consciousness movement is so nice. As soon as people become Krsna conscious, this fighting, this political fighting, national fighting, will be over immediately. Because they'll come to real consciousness that everything belongs to God. And as the children, a child of the family has got right to take advantages from the father, similarly if everyone is part and parcel of God, if everyone is child of God, then everyone has got the right to use the property of the father. So that right is not that right, the right belongs to the human being. According to Bhagavad-gita, this right belongs to all living entities. Never mind whether he's living being or animal or trees, or birds or beast or insect. That is Krsna consciousness. We do not think in terms of that simply my brother is good, I am good. And all bad. This kind of narrow, crippled consciousness we hate, we kick out. We think: panditah sama-darsinah [Bg. 5.18]. In the Bhagavad-gita you'll find.

vidya-vinaya-sampanne
brahmane gavi hastini
suni caiva sva-pake ca
panditah sama-darsinah
[Bg. 5.18]

One who is pandita, One who is learned, he sees every living entity on the equal footing. Therefore a Vaisnava is so compassionate. Lokanam hita-karinau. They can actually do the beneficial work to the human being. They are seeing, actually feeling that all these living entities, they are part and parcel of God. Someway or other, they have fallen in the contact of this material world, and, according to different karma, they have assumed different types of bodies. So pandita, those who are learned, they have no discrimination that: "This is animal, they should be sent to the slaughterhouse, and this is man, he'll eat it." No. A actually Krsna conscious person, he's kind to everyone. Why the animals should be slaughtered. Therefore our philosophy is no meat-eating. No meat-eating. You cannot. So they'll not hear us. "Oh, what this nonsense? This is our food. Why shall I not eat?" Because edhamana-madah. He's intoxicated rascal. He'll not hear the real fact.

Just like in the state, because a man is lying street, poor man, has no help, can I kill him? Will the state excuse me? "No I have killed one poor man. He had no necessity. There was no need for him in the society. So why should he live?" Will the state excuse me that: "You have done very nice work."? No. That poor man is also the subject of the citizen of the state. You cannot kill. Why not expand this philosophy, that the poor animal -- the trees, the birds, beasts -- they're also sons of God. You cannot kill. You'll be responsible. You'll be hanged. Just like by killing one poor man on the street you'll be hanged. Never mind it is poor. Similarly in God's eyes, there is no such discrimination. What to speak of God, even a learned man's vision, there is no such discrimination, "This is poor, this is rich, this is black, this is white, this is..." No. Everyone is living entity, part and parcel of God.

Therefore Vaisnava is the only benefactor for all the living entities. They try to elevate. A Vaisnava tries to elevate all living entities to the platform of Krsna consciousness. Lokanam hita-karinau. Just like Rupa Gosvami, Gosvamis. Lokanam hita-karinau tri-bhuvane manyau saranyakarau. A Vaisnava has no such view that this is Indian, this is American, this is... Somebody questioned me somewhere that: "Why you have come to America?" Why not I shall come? I am servant of God, and this is kingdom of God. Why shall I not come? It is artificial to check me. If you check me, then you'll commit sinful activities. Just like government servant, police, has got right to enter any house, anyone's house. There is no trespass. Similarly a God's servant has got the right to go anywhere. Nobody can check. If he checks, then he'll be punished. Because everything belongs to God.

So in this way we have to see things as they are. That is Krsna consciousness. Krsna consciousness is not a crippled idea. Therefore Kunti says: janmaisvarya-sruta-sribhir edhamana-madah puman. Those who are increasing intoxication, such persons cannot become Krsna conscious. Such persons cannot become Krsna conscious. Edhamana-madah. Because they're intoxicated. Just like a intoxicated person, he is now fully intoxicated and talking nonsense. If somebody says: "My dear brother, you are talking nonsense. Here is father. Here is mother." Who cares for it? He's intoxicated. Similarly all these rascals, intoxicated rascals, if you say: "Here is God," they cannot understand. Because intoxicated. Therefore Kunti says: tvam akincana-gocaram. So it is a good qualification, when one becomes freed from these intoxicants. Janmaisvarya-sruta-sri... Good birth, good opulence, good education, good beauty. They can be used. When the same person become Krsna conscious... Just like you American boys and girls are doing. You were intoxicated. But when the intoxication is over, you are doing better service, Krsna consciousness. Just like when you go to India, they're surprised how these American boys and girls have become so mad after God. Because that, that teaches them that: "You rascal. You learn. Because you imitate from the western countries. Now see here, the western country boys and girls are dancing in Krsna consciousness. Now you imitate." That was my policy.

So it is being fructified now. Yes. So everything can be utilized, Good parentage, if you utilize. If you remain intoxicated, do not utilize it, then it is not very good asset. But you can utilize it for good purpose. If you asset, if you utilize the asset for Krsna's purpose, it will be better position. The same example. Just like zero. Zero has no value. But as soon as you put one before zero, it becomes ten immediately. Immediately ten. Another zero, hundred. Another zero, thousand. Similarly these janmaisvarya-sruta-sri. So long you remain intoxicated with, it is all zero. But as soon as you put Krsna, it becomes ten, hundred, thousand, millions. Yes. That is the opportunity. So you have got this opportunity. You American boys and girls, you have got this opportunity. You have got zeroes. Put Krsna. You become ten. Yes.

Thank you very much. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.26 -- Los Angeles, April 18, 1973

"I've Got Something..."

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.26
Mayapura, October 6, 1974

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Nitai: Translation: "My Lord, Your Lordship can easily be approached, but only by those who are materially exhausted. One who is on the path of material progress, trying to improve himself with respectable parentage, great opulence, high education and bodily beauty, cannot approach You with sincere feeling."

Prabhupada:

janmaisvarya-sruta-sribhir
edhamana-madah puman
naivarhaty abhidhatum vai
tvam akincana-gocaram

Akincana. Akincana means na kincana. Kincana means "something." So na kincana means "one who has nothing to possess." He is called na kincana. Or one who is fully convinced that "Nothing belongs to me," he is akincana. Here, in the material world, it is just the opposite. Everyone is thinking that "I have got something." I have seen long, long ago, maybe fifty years ago in Howrah station. I was going somewhere. So one man, his luggage was the half-burned some fuel wood and some rejected things. He was carrying as luggage half-burned fuel wood. He thought that "This is my possession. I have saved this." So he was taking to his home. That means everyone, even though it is very insignificant, still, everyone thinks that "I have got something." This is the material disease.

So this is the illusion. Therefore sastra says, ato grha-ksetra-sutapta-vittair janasya moho 'yam. Janasya moho 'yam aham mameti [SB 5.5.8]. How a man becomes entangled in this material world, everything is described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. Pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam etam. This material world means sex attraction, mithuni-bhava. The man is searching after woman; woman is searching after man. This is material life, in human life, in bird's, beast's... Just these sparrows -- they are trying to make some nest on this chandelier to enjoy sex and lay eggs. Therefore they require some place. The basic principle is sex. First of all sex life, then other necessities. First of all, seeing, man and woman. Then, when they unite, pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam etam tayor mitho hrdaya-granthim ahuh. When they unite and they get children, then the hard knot of heart -- "She, my wife. She's (He's) my husband. We cannot separated..." Hard knot. Hrdaya-granthi. Already there is attraction. Now this attraction becomes more and more tight, after unity. Then we require a place to live together, "Home, sweet home." Yes, very sweet. The whole day and night, work. And this is moha. He is working hard day and night. There is not a single moment leisure, and still, he's: "Sweet home." This is illusion.

So atah grha. As soon as a man and woman or a male-female, either bird, beast or human being or demigods, everyone... Then he requires home, grha, then land to produce food, grha-ksetra, then children. Grha-ksetra. Because when a man is married, the social life, if he has no children, that is means vacant home. Putra-hinam grham sunyam. Canakya Pandita has said, avidyam jivanam sunyam: "One who is not educated, his life is zero." Avidyam jivanam sunyam. And disah sunya abandhavah: "And if you want to go to some foreign place, if that place is not a holy place..." Because according to Vedic system, they go on touring to see holy places, tirtha-sthana, or to a friend's house. "So if you are going to some foreign countries, if there is no friend and no devata, then it is useless." Disah sunya abandhavah. Or putra-hinam grham sunyam: "You are married, but you have no children. That is also vacant, zero." Putra-hinam grham sunyam. Sarva-sunya daridrata: "But if you are poor, then everything is zero." Your vidya is zero. Your home is zero. And your friend is zero because nobody will care you.

So real point is putram. Ato grha-ksetra-suta. Suta means putra. And according to... (aside about birds?) Drive them. So required, married life requires children. Otherwise, it is vacant. So Bhagavata says that ato grha-ksetra-sutapta-vittair janasya moho 'yam, that "I possess..." In another place it is said that we are thinking very secure: "I have got a nice body, stout and strong. I take daily exercise in the morning and I keep myself fit." Atah... That verse is...? The...? Deha-kalatradi. "I have got good wife..." Sainya means atma-sainya, su, asatsu, atma... We are thinking, "I am in the family life. I am very happy. I am very secure. I have got my good wife, I have got my good children, and so many things... I have got good bank balance. So I am secure." So sastra says, pramattah tasya nidhanam pasyann api na pasyati. Dehapatya-kalatradisu. I was forgetting.

Deha and apatya. Deha means this body, and apatya means children. Dehapatya-kalatra. Kalatra means wife. Dehapatya-kalatradisu atma-sainyesu. Just like when a king fights, he has got some soldiers, similarly, our life in this material world is simply fighting. There is always some danger. Just like Kunti says, vipadah santu sasvat tah. It is simply full of dangers. So when there is danger, we have to fight. That is material life. That is called struggle for existence. So how we are fighting? Dehapatya-kalatradisv atma-sainyesu. This is our soldier. "I have got a good body, strong body, and I have got my children, my grown-up boys. I have got very good wife." Adi. This is the adi. This is the beginning of thinking, "I have got..." Kincana. This is kincana, "I have got something." Dehapatya-kalatradisu. They are considered as atma-sainya: "They are my soldiers. Whenever I am sick, they will help me. If I go out, then who will help me? If I leave my home, then if I fall sick, who will take care of me? No, no. I am not going out of home." Dehapatya-kalatradisv atma-sainyesu. That is my soldier. We are fighting with the soldier, accompanied by soldier.

Dehapatya-kalatradisv atma-sainyesv asatsv api. Asat. They will not stay. I have got experience. Everyone has got... My... I was children; you were children. Now, I had father to take protection or other relatives, friends. But now they are gone. Asatsu. Everything is finished. So these soldiers, either as father or son, the father is finished; the son will be, also will be finished. Asatsu api. Dehapatya-kalatradisv atma-sainyesv asatsv api, tesam pramatto nidhanam. These soldiers will be killed. Tesam pramatto nidhanam pasyann api na pasyati. He knows; he has got experience. Still, he is blind, that "These soldiers will not be able to give me protection. When death will come, they'll not be able. But my real miserable condition is birth, death and old age and disease. So when I fall sick, they can help. They're eager to help. But real help they cannot give me." One should understand that. Atma-sainyesv asatsv api. They will be killed. Real protection is Krsna. That we do not know.

So, so long we possess all these things... That is explained here, janma, aisvarya, sruta, sri. These are good material possessions: to born in high family, aristocratic family, or brahmana family, ksatriya family. These were considered high parentage, heritage. Nowadays, everyone is sudra. That is another thing. Nobody can be proud of his birth. So janma and aisvarya. If we possess land, home and children, wife, bank balance, that is called aisvarya. Janmaisvarya-sruta. And education. "I am philosopher. I am scientist. I am this, poet." So education. That is called sruta. Sruta. Especially Vedic knowledge, sruti. So janmaisvarya-sruta-sribhih. And sri, beauty. So unless one is very happy or born in good family, unless one..., he cannot have bodily beauty. Janmaisvarya-sruta-sribhir edhamana, edhamana-madah. The more we possess these things, then we become intoxicated. It is already illusion. Grha-ksetra-sutapta-vittaih. So that illusion becomes more and more stronger. And that is called madah.

So they are not interested in Krsna consciousness. That is the position at the present moment. Everyone is trying that "I must have a good position in the society." People will say, "Oh, his house is very nice." Or everyone is trying to be educated to acquire money. In the Western countries, these are very prominent, janmaisvarya-sruta. They are not very much interested about the janma, but aisvarya, sruta, they are interested, and sri. So everywhere, more or less, that is the... So these are disqualification for Krsna consciousness. In the material world they are very good qualification, advancement of material civilization. But here Kunti says, janmaisvarya-sruta-sribhir edhamana-madah puman, naivarhati: "He does not desire." Na eva, naiva, arhati.

Therefore the Vedic civilization is voluntary giving up, voluntary giving up. Big, big king, Maharaja Bharata, the emperor of the whole world, Bharatavarsa. Therefore it is called Bharatavarsa. At the age of twenty-four years, he gave up his kingdom, his young wife. There are many, many instances. So to become voluntarily akincana, "I have nothing. I don't possess anything." Here in this material world, everyone is trying to possess more -- more wealth, more education, more beauty, more family prestige, aristocracy. This is materialism. And spiritualism means just the opposite. Therefore people are not attracted to spiritualism. I have told you that I was thinking when I was dreaming that "Guru Maharaja is asking me to come out, and I was going..." Did I say this story? Yes. So I was afraid: "Oh, I have to give up my family. And I become... I have to become sannyasi? And I have to go behind my Guru Maharaja? No, no, it is horrible." I was thinking. But he forced me to it. He is so kind that he forced me, somehow or other. That is mercy. I can understand now that how much merciful was my Guru Maharaja that he forced me to take this life.

So therefore it was enquired by Yudhisthira Maharaja... There is a verse in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, that... This question was raised by Pariksit Maharaja to Sukadeva Gosvami. So "Your Honor, we see just the opposite thing, that one who is devotee of Lord Visnu, the wife, the husband of the goddess of fortune, they become gradually poorer." Because a Vaisnava, generally, they remain humble and poor, brahmana also. "Whereas the worshiper of Lord Siva..." Lord Siva means..., at least, he voluntarily accepts all poverty. His wife is Durga devi, so powerful. Srsti-sthiti-pralaya-sadhana-saktir eka [Bs. 5.44]. She can make a new universe, she is so powerful. But this couple, Lord Siva and Parvati, they have no house even to live. They live under the tree, so poor, no residential house even. "So when one becomes devotee of Lord Siva, he gets material opulence. He becomes rich. He gets good wife. He gets all material opulences. And when one becomes the devotee of Visnu, the husband of goddess of fortune, he becomes poor. Why this contradiction? This is contradiction. The worshiper of the Lord of Goddess of Fortune is becoming poorer, and the worshiper of the vagabond, who has no house even, lives underneath a bael tree... That is also not very good. And his devotee becomes so opulent materially. So why this difference?" These are statements. I have stated several times.

So Sukadeva Gosvami said to Pariksit that "This very question was raised by your grandfather, Maharaja Yudhisthira, to Lord Krsna, and what He replied I'll say." So in that connection he gave quotation of Krsna. Krsna said to Maharaja Yudhisthira... Maharaja Yudhisthira, by hint, asked Krsna that "We are Your friend, and why we are put into such tribulations that we have lost our kingdom? We are now living in the forest. Our wife is insulted. Why?" So the reply was that yasyaham anugrhnami harisye tad-dhanam sanaih. Means... Krsna said that "When I make one especially favored, then I take away all his riches to make him niskincana." Niskincana means one becomes almost poverty-stricken. Nobody cares for him. Then he become fully surrendered to Krsna. Just like Narottama dasa Thakura says, ha ha prabhu nanda-suta, vrsabhanu-suta-juta, koruna karoho ei-baro, narottama-dasa koy..., koruna..., na theliho ranga pay, toma bine ke ache amara. This position is very nice, niskincana. "I have lost everything. I am now not cared by my family, my friends. So everything I have lost. Therefore I am forced to come to You, surrender. So don't kick me, kick me out. Please give me shelter because I have no other shelter." Toma bine ke ache amara: "I... There is nobody else to take my care except Your Lordship." This is called niskincana.

So actually that is the position. So long we shall think that "For my protection, this arrangement is there for my protection. This arrangement is there...," that is not niskincana. Niskincana means when I'll think, I'll be actually under the understanding that "I have no other protection except Krsna," and then I fully surrender, that is the best qualification for Krsna consciousness. Therefore it is said, naivarhaty abhidhatum vai tvam: "Unto You." Who are You? Akincana-gocaram: "You can be understood only by a person who has lost everything, who has lost everything." Then the Kunti's purpose was that "When we lost everything, You were with us. And now we have got kingdom. We have got prestige. We have got so many things. Now You are going away to Dvaraka?" So tvam akincana-gocaram.

So this is Kunti's realization. Janmaisvarya-sruta-sribhir edhamana-madah... Therefore for spiritual advancement, if one is interested, they should not be too much attached to material things if you want to advance in spiritual life. Janmaisvarya... Because this will be entanglement. The more and more we shall think, "This is mine. This is mine." Aham mameti [SB 5.5.8]. This is illusion. Nothing belongs to him, but by illusion, he will think, "This is mine. This is mine." Just like we have got this nice, grand building in this district. If we think, "This is my building" or "My building," then there will be mishap. My Guru Maharaja said. Personally he said that "When we were living in a rented house, if we could collect two hundred, three hundred rupees... We were living very nicely at Ultadanga. And since then -- Jayavidatta has given us this marble palace, Gaudiya-Matha -- there is friction between our men. ‘Who will occupy this room? Who will occupy that room? Who will be proprietor of room?' " Tirtha Maharaja... Kunjababa was giving one tablet, that "This is..." Everyone is planning in different way. So Guru Maharaja said... He was personally instructing me that "If I could sell this marble of this temple, and secure some money, and if I could print some books, that would have been better. That would have been better."

Therefore I am so much after books. If we forget our position, if we become pound-shilling man, property man, then Krsna will be finished, because Krsna is akincana-gocara. Therefore we should always remember that we possess this nice house not for our comfort, but people will come because they are not accustomed. If we would have invited people, "Come and sit down on this Mayapura ground," no, there was no possibility. Therefore we must possess Krsna's temple very nice so that people will come, and we shall preach. That is philosophy, not that because we have got this nice house, therefore we should be very much attached. Attachment must be there -- for Krsna's service. The temple must be very cleansed. The establishment must be very nice. What for? For attracting devotees. This is the purpose, not for our personal benefit. That is the way. My Guru Maharaja introduced these big, big palaces, temple. That is the contribution of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, because the Gosvamis, they worshiped Krsna in a different method -- going to Vrndavana, living underneath the tree, and one night underneath one tree, next night, next tree. This vairagya is not possible for the Western people. Therefore we require this building. That is the contribution. Unless they live comfortably, it is not possible. And we have to preach all over the world.

So nirbandhah krsna-sambandhe. For Krsna's... Therefore you'll find in India, there are many very big, big, costly temples, not personal house. You'll never find all over India. You go and see. They have spent lots of money for temple. That was the Oriental civilization. Even the Muhammadans, they would construct very costly mosque, but they would live in huts. That was the intention. One... When... Whenever one is a little bit rich, he'll find out how to spend it for Krsna, not for his sense gratification. Just like this Madana-mohana temple was constructed by a big merchant. He approached Sanatana Gosvami: "Sir, what can I do for you? I want to serve you." So Sanatana Gosvami said, "My Madana-mohana... I am living underneath the tree, and my Madana-mohana is hanging. So if you can, you can construct a temple for Madana-mohana." Similarly, Maharaja Mansingh approached Rupa Gosvami. They never constructed big, big temple for their own living purpose, but Krsna's purpose. That is the way. For Krsna, we must have everything very gorgeous and first class, but not for me. That is akincana. Personally we should not possess anything, simply for Krsna.

So that attitude should be maintained because here it is said, tvam akincana-gocaram. And Caitanya Mahaprabhu also, he said that niskincanasya. Here it is called akincana. And the same thing in different way, niskincana. Akincana."A" means negation, and "na" means negation. Niskincana. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu said that niskincanasya bhagavad-bhajanonmukhasya. Bhagavad-bhajana, to advance in spiritual life, to be engaged in Krsna's devotional service, that is the aim of life. That is the purpose of human form of life. So for him, he should always remain niskincana. Niskincanasya bhagavad-bhajanonmukhasya. So therefore Gaura-kisora dasa Babaji, he remained niskincana. And his disciple, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, he also remained niskincana although he possessed so many temples, because nothing was for his personal..., but for Krsna.

So one may question that "Your Guru Maharaja was sitting on the ground in a municipal lavatory..." Because he did not like that "Anybody should disturb me," he was sitting by the side of municipal lavatory. Because so many people will come for darsana and asirvada, he did not like it. He did not like to be disturbed by these asirvada. You see? They will not take any spiritual instruction. They are thinking that "Here is a saintly person, and he'll bless me. So I have got now one thousand. I'll take ten thousand." That's all. Therefore they come. They do not come to take any spiritual instruction. Therefore it is botheration. It is botheration. So Gaura-kisora dasa Babaji Maharaja did not like this botheration. He was sitting by the side of a municipal lavatory so that "These rascal will not come out of the bad smell and will not disturb me." You see? So Maharaja Mahindranandi, he was one of the... He had organized one sankirtana festival. So he came to Gaura-kisora dasa Babaji Maharaja and to invite him. So after many requests, Gaura-kisora dasa Babaji Maharaja said, "Maharaja, you have got many tenants. You are Maharaja. Why you are trying to make me your tenant? Because you are rich man, you also want... As your tenants carries your order, so you also want me. So why you are...?" "No, sir, no. You are my lord. Whatever you say, I shall carry out." "Will you carry out?" "Why not?" So he said that "Don't go home. Sit down here. Chant Hare Krsna." He fled away. (laughter) You see. So he was very humorous also, Gaura-kisora dasa Babaji, that "If you are so obedient, then I ask you, ‘Don't go home. Better give up your dress and chant Hare Krsna here.' "

So he was akincana. So similarly... Just like Ramananda Raya. He was grhastha, very opulent, governor. He is also akincana because nothing was possessed by personal; everything for Jagannatha. This is distinction. On one side, Rupa Gosvami, and one side, Ramananda Raya. And Ramananda Raya is the most confidential devotee of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, although he's a grhastha, because he is akincana, as akincana as Rupa Gosvami. So we have to become akincana. Akincana. Then we shall realize Krsna. Therefore it is said, akincana-gocaram: "You are understandable only by a person who does not possess so-called material opulence." So we should always remember that whatever we are trying for material..., it is all for Krsna, nothing for us. So that people may... Big, gorgeous temple means people will be attracted to come here, and we'll distribute Krsna's prasadam. The aim is some way or other to turn them to convert them into Krsna consciousness. Then you remain akincana. And if we think that "We have got now very big house. We shall live comfortably and sleep comfortably," then na gocaram, then Krsna will not be realized. Then that comfort will be realized only, not Krsna. Akincana-gocaram. We should always remember this.

This is... Kunti devi is saying, tvam akincana-gocaram. And Caitanya Mahaprabhu said also, niskincanasya bhagavad-bhajanonmukhasya. Bhagavad-bhajana, devotional service to Krsna, if one is interested, he should not desire anything material possession. Material... Anyabhilasita-sunyam [BRS 1.1.11]. Niskincanasya bhagavad-bhajano... And Bhagavad-bhajana, why required? Now, param param jigamisor bhava-sagarasya. We are rotting in this material world. We have to cross over the nescience ocean, and go to Vaikuntha. That is bhagavad-bhajana. Bhagavad-bhajana does not mean to increase our material possessions. That is dharmartha-kama-moksa. These are material things. People become religious to increase their economic condition better, dharma artha, generally. They want to... Just like there are so many so-called saintly persons. They advertise that "If you give me one, I shall give you ten." Magic, gold manufacturing, or some cloth and they get more... People are after them. But akincana. We have nothing to give. So they do not come to us.

So Krsna is akincana-gocaram. We should always remember that, that if we desire to be materially happy, and if we think, "Some material possession and prestige in the society and becoming a learned scholar... I shall be getting more and more adoration from the society. I'll be a big man," then Krsna will be finished. Krsna will be finished. Krsna is akincana-gocara. That is the instruction of this verse. Naivarhaty abhidhatum. These persons, janmaisvarya-sruta-sribhir edhamana, increasing material opulence, they does not, they do not deserve approaching Krsna. Krsna will be approached by Narottama dasa Thakura when he says, toma bine ke ache amara: "I have no other alternative than to take shelter at the lotus feet of Your Lordship. Please give me..." We should always remember this. Then we shall be able to make progress in spiritual life.

Thank you very much. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.26 -- Mayapura, October 6, 1974