Criminal Enjoyment

Criminal Enjoyment

Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.3.20-21
Los Angeles, June 17, 1972

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Pradyumna: (leads chanting:)

bile batorukrama-vikraman ye
na srnvatah karna-pute narasya
jihvasati dardurikeva suta
na copagayaty urugaya-gathah

Prabhupada: So bile batorukrama-vikraman ye. Urukrama. Urukrama means Krsna. Krama means activities. Uru means great. So urukrama-vikraman. Vikraman means chivalrous activities, very brave activities. So one who does not hear about the brave activities of Krsna, they are satisfied with teeny activities of this material world... We give credit to an ordinary man to become a God. How? Now, meditation. Now, what are his wonderful activities? Simply by meditation he becomes God? This is the foolishness. God must be acting very wonderfully. Otherwise, how he's God. If he is just like ordinary man, and because he has got a big beard, he becomes God? How foolishness it is. They do not know what is God because they have not heard about God, how powerful He is, how brave activities He does. Just like Krsna. Krsna, when He was seven years old, He lifted a great hill, Govardhana Hill. Giridhari. And He kept it on His finger for seven days. That is God. Krsna, when He was householder, He married sixteen thousand wives.

And who can maintain sixteen thousand wives? One cannot maintain even one wife. This is called urukrama. Great activities. Not that Krsna remained one, and He had sixteen thousand wives. No. He also expanded Himself into sixteen thousand forms so that no wife may be displeased. His wife... If I am one, and if I have got many wives, so everyone will be displeased. He provided sixteen thousand palaces, and in each palace, there were many thousands of servants and maidservants, and each wife was blessed with ten sons. This is called urukrama, great activities. Lord Ramacandra, He killed Ravana. Ravana was so powerful that all the demigods in higher planetary systems, they were all afraid of him. He became so powerful. And Ravana's brother, he reigned in Mexico, Brazil. Brazil. And there was subway from Ceylon to Brazil. We get information from Ramayana. Such powerful demons. Who can make now subway from one country into another country? They can make subway from one city to another, utmost.

But at that time, Ravana was able to make a subway from one continent to another, from Asia to Africa. And Brazil, they say, still there are big stock of gold. So Ravana utilized these gold mines for constructing his city. Svarna-lanka, "Golden Ceylon," it was known at that time. He was so advanced even in material science, even at that time. And he was also a good scholar in Vedic literature. He was a great devotee of Lord Siva. And by the blessings of Lord Siva, he got so much opulences. And he became so powerful that he dared to kidnap the wife of Ramacandra. So such a powerful demon was killed by Ramacandra. And He approached his kingdom on a stone bridge. And the stones were floating on the water. Where is the law of gravitation? The law of gravitation, the so-called scientists' imagination, does not act when Urukrama, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, acts. He wanted, "There should be no law of gravitation. Let the stones float on the water." This is called urukrama.

So we accept Lord Ramacandra as God, Lord Krsna as God, not these petty dogs and cats. We have no business with these petty dogs and cats. All rascals, they are declaring, "I am God." No. Therefore, these rascals, who do not know what is God, you have to inject within their earholes the message of God. That is your business. Krsna consciousness movement means... These rascals, dogs, hogs, camels and asses, who have no information of God, and therefore their earholes are compared like the snake holes, bile... So you have got very responsible task, to inject within their ear the chivalrous activities of God. Otherwise, their earholes remain as snake holes. As I explained yesterday, in the snake holes, nobody goes there. Nobody puts their hands or legs. Similarly, if these earholes remains empty, without aural reception of the great activities of the Lord, it is as good as the snake holes.

Bile batorukrama-vikraman ye na srnvatah. They have decided, "There is no God. God is dead. God has no personality. He's zero." Therefore they have no opportunity to hear about God. Na srnvatah karna-pute narasya. This human form of body... These earholes are meant for giving aural reception to the message of God. But they'll not do that. Therefore your mission is to go home to home, village to village, town to town, and give them injection, "Hear." Make such arrangement, nice dancing, nice chanting, prasada distribution. Why? Just to inject in their snake holes the words of Krsna. This is your mission. Those who have taken sannyasa especially, it is their duty. Sat-nyasa, to sacrifice everything ... Sacrifice means ... Nothing to be sacrificed. But sacrifice the sense of "I am the Lord." That's all. What you have got, you can sacrifice? This is simply a bluff, sacrifice. We cannot sacrifice. What we have got we can sacrifice? There is no question of sacrifice, but sacrifice means this doggish mentality that "I am Lord, I am God, I am enjoyer."

This doggish mentality has to be sacrificed. Otherwise, what you can sacrifice? What you have got? Renouncement. There is no question of renouncement. You haven't got anything, what to renounce? When you come naked, and you go naked. Simply by false, illusory conception, you think: "This is mine, this is mine, this is mine." Actually, when you take your birth, you do not bring anything with you. And when you go away, you do not take away anything. The things were there, and things will be there. You come and go. But then where is the question of sacrifice? Where is the question of renouncement? This is illusion. Isavasyam idam sarvam. Everything belongs to God; nothing belongs to you. So what is the meaning of renouncement? And what is the meaning of enjoyment? You cannot enjoy others' property, neither it is a very nice thing if you say, "I renounce it." Suppose you are passing through Bank of America, if you say, "I renounce this." Where, where? What is the renouncement?

Bank of America belongs to you? This is craziness. You cannot enjoy the Bank of America. If you go and try to enjoy, then you'll be criminal. And if you say, "I renounce it," then you are a madman. This is your position. But people are going on under two impressions. Somebody, the karmis, they are thinking, "I am enjoyer. I am the lord of all I survey. This America is mine. You cannot enter." So this is the karmi's position. Falsely, they are claiming proprietorship, which does not belong to them. Thieves, rather; they are thieves, rogues. There is a story that a, a group of thieves, they plundered some booty, some property, somewhere, and then, out of the town, they were dividing. So one of the thieves was speaking, "Please divide the property morally." Now, the property's stolen property, and they are speaking of "morally." Devil recites scripture. Similarly, you Americans, you have come from Europe, you have stolen this property. Now you are speaking of morality.

So not you. Everyone. Nothing belongs to us. There is no question of morality unless one surrenders to Krsna. Everything immoral for a person who is not Krsna conscious, everything immoral. Therefore Caitanya-caritamrta says,

‘dvaite' bhadrabhadra-jnana, saba -- ‘manodharma'
‘ei bhala, ei manda' -- ei saba ‘bhrama'

In this material world, which is called "duality," these, our listing, "These things are good. These things are bad," bhadra abhadra... Bhadra means good. Abhadra means bad. These are all the same. It is simply mental concoction. Here, the so-called morality, ethics -- all nonsense. Because you, you are trying to lord it over on the property of somebody else. So where is your morality? So these sentiments -- morality, immorality, good, bad -- they are simply manufactured. Actually, unless one surrenders to Krsna, there is no question of this ethics and morality. We are now discussing in our philosophical class, Huxley's morality. These are all crazy man's proposals. Actually, there is no morality.

So that we can understand things as they are if we receive the message of Urukrama, Krsna. If you give aural reception to the activities of Krsna ... Therefore, you should not waste a moment even with nonsense talkings. You have got so many books. Either chant Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare, or read books, discuss amongst yourself. Don't waste your time by so-called drama and play. It is simply waste of time. Don't waste your time in that way. If you have got inclination to enjoy some drama, then you should take hint how that drama should be written or played. Don't manufacture. You are not so expert that you can manufacture things. That is illegal. Just like we do not read any rascal's book. They are manufacturing so many ideas. We read Bhagavatam, authorized. We read Srimad Bhagavad-gita. We read Brahma-samhita. Not rascal's book. What these rascals can write? They're imperfect. So don't waste your time. Simply always pour in, give aural reception to the message of Urukrama.

Don't waste a single moment. This should be your life's policy. Avyartha-kalatvam [Cc.Madhya 23.18-19]. Rupa Gosvami advises an advanced devotee should always look "Whether my time is wasted?" Avyartha-kalatvam. Vyartha means useless. So that is, that should be one of the, mean, target of devotees, that "Whether I am wasting my time?" Don't waste your time. Always pour in the activities of the Lord, Krsna. Always, twenty-four hours. Kirtaniyah sada harih [Cc. adi 17.31], Caitanya Mahaprabhu says. Sada. Sada means always, twenty-four hours. Otherwise, it is the snake hole. Similarly, jihvasati dardurikeva suta. Dardurikeva. A frog's tongue, ka-ka-kanh, ka-ka-kanh. No. Dardurikeva suta na copagayaty urugaya-gathah. Urugaya. Glorious activities. This should be our motto of life. Now read the purport.

Pradyumna: Purport: "Devotional service of the Lord is rendered by all limbs or parts of the body. It is the transcendental dynamic force of the spirit soul; therefore a devotee is engaged one hundred percent in the service of the Lord. One can engage in devotional service when the senses of the body are purified in relation with the Lord, and one can render service to the Lord with the help of all senses. As such, the senses and the action of the senses are to be considered as impure or materialistic as long as they are employed in sense gratification only. The purified senses are engaged not in sense gratification, but in the service of the Lord in toto. The Lord is the Supreme with all senses, and the servitor, who is part and parcel of the Lord, also has the same senses. Service of the Lord is the completely purified use of the senses, as it is described in the Bhagavad-gita. The Lord imparted instructions with full senses, and Arjuna received them with full senses, and thus there was a perfect exchange of sensible and logical understanding between the master and the disciple.

Spiritual understanding is nothing like an electrical charge from the master to the disciple as it is foolishly claimed by some propaganda-mongers. Everything is full of sense and logic, and the exchange of views between the master and the disciple is possible when the reception is submissive and real only. In the Caitanya-caritamrta it is said that one should receive the teaching of Lord Caitanya with intellect and full senses so that one can logically understand the great mission."

Prabhupada: Caitanya dayara katha karaha vicara. The exact language is there. That Caitanya-caritamrta writer, Kaviraja Gosvami, says that "You put your logic about the mercy of Lord Caitanya. I request you, you consider. Don't accept it blindly." Sri-krsna-caitanya-daya karaha vicara. "But if you intelligently deliberate on the mercy of Caitanya Mahaprabhu,"

sri-krsna-caitanya-daya karaha vicara
vicara karile citte pabe camatkara

"you'll feel wonderful. If you accept it by systematic deliberation about the mercy of Lord Caitanya, then you'll feel that it is wonderful." So our Krsna consciousness movement is not a, I mean to say, force, that we are pushing something forcibly to anyone. There is complete judgement. But unfortunately, if one cannot understand, that is not our fault. One must have the intelligence to understand. Otherwise, logically, philosophically, it is perfect. Go on.

Pradyumna: "In the impure state of a living being, the respective senses are fully engaged in mundane affairs. If the car is not engaged in the service ..."

Prabhupada: "If the ear..."

Pradyumna: "If the ear is not engaged in the service of the Lord by hearing about Him in the Bhagavad-gita or in the Srimad Bhagavatam, certainly the holes of the ears will be filled up with some rubbish."

Prabhupada: Yes. This is the secret. We have got the ears, and we have got the sound also. Just like we are reading this book. So if we don't fill up our ears with this transcendental sound, then it will be filled up with some rubbish things. It cannot remain empty. Either you fill up with transcendental message, or you fill up with rubbish nonsense. Two ways. So if you take care that your earholes are always filled up with the transcendental message of Krsna, so there is no scope for rubbish things to enter into it. So therefore our attempt should be twenty-four hours hearing. Kirtaniyah sada harih [Cc. adi 17.31]. Twenty-four hours. As soon as you get time, read books, discuss amongst yourselves, partial closing.(?) Don't fill up the ears with rubbish things. Then advance will be choked up. Go on.

Pradyumna: "Therefore the messages of the Bhagavad-gita and the Srimad Bhagavatam should be preached all over the world very loudly. That is the duty of a pure devotee who has actually heard about them from perfect sources. Many may want to speak something to others, but because they are not trained up to speak on the subject matter of Vedic wisdom, they are all speaking nonsense, and the people are receiving them with no sense. There are hundreds and thousands of sources for distributing mundane news of the world, and people of the word are also receiving them. Similarly, the people of the world should be taught to hear the transcendental topics of the Lord, and the devotee of the Lord must speak loudly so that they can hear. The frogs loudly croak, with the result that they invite the snakes to eat them. The human tongue is especially meant for chanting the Vedic hymns and not for croaking like the frogs. The word asati used in this verse is also significant.

Asati means a woman who has become a prostitute. A prostitute has no reputation for good womanly qualities. Similarly, the tongue, which is given to the human being for chanting the Vedic hymns, will be considered a prostitute if it is engaged in the matter of chanting some mundane nonsense."

Prabhupada: Yes. Just like a chaste woman has got good reputation, similarly, a chaste tongue... Chaste tongue means... Chaste tongue and ear. Jihvadau. Our spiritual life begins from tongue. Jihvadau. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam eva sphuraty adah. Atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih [BRS. 1.2.234]. These senses -- these mundane, blunt senses -- they cannot receive or understand what is Krsna; what is Krsna's name; what is Krsna's form; what is Krsna's pastimes; what is Krsna's paraphernalia; so many things Krsna's... what is Krsna's word. Na bhaved grahyam indriyaih. These senses cannot do it. But when the one sense, the tongue, is engaged in devotional service... The tongue is engaged in devotional service means chant Hare Krsna. This tongue is especially given to you. The dog, the cat cannot chant Hare Krsna, but you can. Because God has given you the opportunity. So just like chaste woman means he is meant for her husband, similarly, chaste tongue means which is meant for chanting Hare Krsna. That is chaste tongue. And tasting krsna-prasadam.

So if you can simply engage your tongue chanting Hare Krsna and tasting krsna-prasadam, you become perfect. Simple thing. There is no difficulty. Whenever there is time, chant Hare Krsna. And when you feel hungry, take krsna-prasadam and live here peacefully. Don't talk rubbish. Then life is successful. Is there any difficulty We are, we are trying to give you krsna-prasadam. We are giving you chance to chant Hare Krsna. That is our duty. So you take advantage of it, and make your life successful. Otherwise, it is jihvasati dardurikeva suta. Dardurika. The frogs, frog's tongue, very busy in croaking. But it, it, it is means inviting death, "Please come here. I am sitting here." So similarly, by talking nonsense, we allow our span of life being diminished by the sunrise and sunset, but if we talk about the urugaya-gathah, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, then our life cannot be taken away. It cannot be decreased.

It will be eternal. Simply by doing these two things... Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau. If we simply engage the jihva, the tongue, in the transcendental loving service of the Lord, then we can see God, eye to eye. Then? You read one verse more.

Pradyumna: (chants verse with devotees:)

bharah param patta-kirita-justam
apy uttamangam na namen mukundam
savau karau no kurute saparyam
harer lasat-kancana-kankanau va

Prabhupada: That's nice. So you can read the word meanings. Read.

Pradyumna: (reads synonyms, then:) Translation: "The upper portion of the body, though crowned with a silk turban, if not bowed down before the Personality of Godhead who can award mukti, freedom, is a heavy burden only. And the hands, though decorated with glittering bangles, if not engaged in the service of the Personality of Godhead Hari, are like those of a dead man."

Prabhupada: So you have seen Indian turban -- very, very big, made of silk and jewels. Perhaps you can, you have seen the typical turban by the Indian Airways, a big turban. So what is the use of the turban? It is a great burden, you, if you do not bow down before the Lord. Similarly, if you don't engage your hand in the service of the Lord, it is exactly like the dead man's hand. If the dead man's hand, if it is decorated with nice, glittering, golden bangles, what is the beauty? There is no beauty. So we'll discuss tomorrow again. Thank you. (end)

 

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"Seeing That Krsna Is Satisfied

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.10.2
Mayapura, June 17, 1973

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Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)

vamsam kuror vamsa-davagni-nirhrtam
samrohayitva bhava-bhavano harih
nivesayitva nija-rajya isvaro
yudhisthiram prita-mana babhuva ha

Translation: "Suta Gosvami said: Lord Sri Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is the maintainer of the world, became pleased after reestablishing Maharaja Yudhisthira in his own kingdom and after restoring the Kuru dynasty, which had been exhausted by the bamboo fire of anger."

Prabhupada: The two words, vamsam kuroh... Vamsa means dynasty of the Kurus. Another word, vamsa-davagni. Vamsa means bamboo. So this dynasty is like bamboo. One bamboo, automatically, many bamboos grow side by side. So this dynasty also grows like that. One man, one woman, united, they beget children. They beget children. In this way, dynasty expands. So the expansion of dynasty and the bamboo growing, practically the same thing. Bamboo, they are also living entities, and another thing is davagni, forest fire, davagni. The bamboos, when they collide by air, there is heat. Electricity is generated, and the fire takes place. That is the cause of forest fire. Nobody goes to set fire in the forest. Nowadays, of course, in your country they are doing like that. But generally the forest fire takes place by this collision of the bamboos. So this world is like that. Therefore we sing, samsara-davagni. Samsara-dava... What is that?

Devotees: Samsara-davanala-lidha-loka **.

Prabhupada: Ah. Samsara-davanala-lidha-loka **. So this world, you may try to keep yourself very peaceful, silent, but there will be set fire automatically, the nature. Because the natural law is that it will not allow you to live peacefully. That is not possible. Just like in prison house, it is not that you will go to the prison house and live very peacefully. No. Because prison house is meant for the criminals.

So anyone who is in this material world, they are criminals. They are all criminals. Why?

krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare
nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare

As soon as... Our business is to serve Krsna. We are constitutionally made like that. Jivera svarupa haya nitya-krsna-dasa [Cc. Madhya 20.108-109]. So these rascals, nitya-krsna-dasa, eternal servant of Krsna, when he forgets Krsna, "Why shall I serve Krsna? I shall become Krsna," that is maya. As soon as you forget the service of the Lord... That is your business, because we are part and parcel of Krsna. Just like this finger is part and parcel of my body. The finger's business is to carry out my order. I say, "Finger, come here." It comes immediately. I say, "Finger come here," it comes immediately. That is the business of the part and parcel of the body. I desire the leg now should go upstairs: the leg immediately goes. Similarly, we being part and parcel of Krsna, our only duty is to carry out the order of Krsna. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66].

So as soon as we forget our duty or we want to imitate... Just like these Mayavadis, they want to imitate Krsna. They want to become Krsna. Nobody can become Krsna. These rascals, they think that by mystic yoga process one can become God. Simply rascaldom. Nobody can become God. God is never made. God does not become. God is always God, not that one is not God, and he becomes God by some mystic yogic power. This theory is going on amongst the Mayavadis, that by the mystic yoga practice, one can become God. So we don't want such cheap God. They may become God, so-called God, but we are concerned with the real God, Krsna. Krsna, when He was three months old, He was God. He did not practice any mystic yoga to kill Putana. Svabhaviki jnana-bala-kriya ca. God's intelligence, power, is natural. Although Krsna was on the lap of mother Yasoda like a little baby, but the full potency of God was there. Svabhaviki jnana-bala-kriya. How to kill Putana, how to kill Aghasura, Bakasura, Krsna knows perfectly. All the Krsna's friends, they were entering within the mouth of Aghasura. Krsna is observing, "Now My all friends have entered the mouth of the Aghasura, and how to kill this demon?" The last, He entered. And at the end of the throat, He began to expand Himself. Just see how He knows to do His business. Svabhaviki.

Krsna was a boy also, little boy. Nobody taught Him how to kill this Aghasura, Bakasura. But He knows. Svabhaviki jnana-bala-kriya ca. He expanded Himself within the throat, and the demon was choked up, and he died. Similarly, the Kesi demon came as a horse and Krsna pushed His hand within the mouth of the horse. If you want to control horse, you have to control his mouth. Horse is controlled by the mouth. Therefore you have seen the harnesses are fit, fixed in the mouth, and the driver controls the mouth, and the horse goes. So Krsna was a boy. How He knew it that "This demon has come in the shape of a horse. So if I have to control him, I will have to control his mouth." So He pushed His hand within the mouth of the horse, and the horse felt just like an iron bar and hot iron. So he died. Similarly, when Krsna fought with that bull, what is that asura?

Devotees: Aristasura.

Prabhupada: He knew that to control the bull you have to control the horns. So He took up the horns and killed him. This is svabhaviki, natural. He knows everything.

So here it is said that prita-mana isvarah. Isvaro prita-mana babhuva, "Isvara became pleased." Isvara is always pleased. He is never displeased. But when He sees that people are devotees, people are acting as part and parcel of Him, He is more pleased. That is bhakti. Bhaktya mam abhijanati [Bg. 18.55]. How God is pleased, that you can understand by discharging devotional service. Whether God is pleased or not pleased, how you can understand? Bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan yas casmi tattvatah [Bg. 18.55]. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam eva sphuraty adah. You cannot understand what is God, what is Krsna. Generally, all people, they do not know what is God. And what to speak of understanding whether God is pleased or not pleased. They do not know what is God. This is the position of the world. They do not know what is God, neither there is any education to understand, although the human life is meant for understanding God. That is human life. Athato brahma jijnasa. The animal life, their inquiries are... In the morning... Just like birds, they chirp, "Where we have to go now to find out our food? Where we shall eat today? Where we shall go?" That is their questions and answers. Similarly, we also, human beings, we go to the share market, "What is the value? What is the price of this commodity? What is the price of that commodity? " For eating purpose. Not these questions. Athato brahma jijnasa. The human life should be engaged in inquiring about Brahman. "What is the Absolute Truth? What is my position in relationship with the Absolute Truth? What is my duty towards the Absolute Truth? What is my ultimate aim of life?" These questions must be discussed. Perhaps these questions are being discussed by the Krsna consciousness movement and no other movement. They do not know. The Mayavadis, they deny the existence of God. They become themselves God.

So the fact is that we have to see that isvara, the Supreme Lord, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is prita-mana. That is gopis'... The gopis' life is like that. They want to see Krsna always, prita-mana, satisfied. That is our Gaudiya Vaisnava philosophy, how to see Krsna prita-mana. That is our business. Here in the material world, everyone is trying to see himself, "How much satisfied I am?" Prita-mana. He is... Everyone is trying to become happy himself. Just... Bhakti-marga, or the path of devotional service, is just the opposite, to see how much Krsna is prita-mana, satisfied.

So here it is stated that vamsam kuror vamsa-davagni-nirhrtam. When everything was finished... Krsna knows how to kill the demons, setting fire. Just like you... Some way or other, if there is fire in the forest, automatically, so many trees, so many animals, so many other things, they become devastated, burned into ashes. So Krsna, by the policy of Krsna, all the demons were brought together in the Battlefield of Kuruksetra, and set them... The fire was set, fighting, and they died. When Arjuna was hesitating to fight, Arjuna was at last informed that "Why you are hesitating? It is all My plan. You fight or don't fight, it doesn't matter. These people are not going back home. They will die here." Nimitta-matram bhava savyasacin: "You just become only a nimitta, an immediate cause. Everything is arranged. But if you fight, you get the credit. I want to see My devotee gets the credit. Everything I am doing." Everything actually. Just like this Krsna consciousness movement is quickly spreading all over the world within four, five years. Is it my credit? No. It is credit of Krsna. But because I tried to do this business, people automatically giving me the credit. They say, "Swamiji, you have done wonderful." I have done nothing wonderful. It is Krsna's business. Krsna-sakti vina nahe nama-pravartana. Without Krsna's strength, nobody can spread. That is stated in the Caitanya-caritamrta.

Similarly, Krsna is always ready to help us, provided we are also ready to cooperate with Him. If we cooperate with Him, what Krsna desires, if we want to do little, immediately Krsna will help you. If you work one percent, Krsna will help you ten percent. Again, if you work one percent, Krsna will help you another ten percent. But the cent percent credit you get, by the help of Krsna. Krsna gives you intelligence. Tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam priti-purvakam, buddhi-yogam dadami tam [Bg. 10.10]. If you are engaged satatam, twenty-four hours, without any other engagement... Sarva-dharman parityajya [Bg. 18.66], giving up all other nonsense business... Sarva-dharman. Simply if you are engaged in Krsna's business... Priti-purvakam, with love. Not as hackneyed: "Oh here is the duty, chanting of Hare Krsna. All right, Harekrsnaharekrsnaharekrsna..." (Prabhupada chants very quickly and indistinctly) Not like that. With priti, with love. Chant every name, "Hare Krsna," and hear. Here is Krsna; here is Radharani. That kind of chanting, quality. Not "Harekrsnaharekrsnakrsnakrsnaharehare..." Not like that. Not like that. Priti.

Tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam priti [Bg. 10.10]. That priti is required. That is the essential quality. Patram puspam phalam toyam yo me bhaktya prayacchati. Real thing is bhakti. Krsna is not hungry that you will give Him some good food and He will eat it, never mind in which you can give. "Oh, here is puri, halava. Krsna must eat." Krsna is not hungry for your puri, halava. But if there is bhakti, if there is love, then He eats. Tad aham asnami: "Then I eat if there is bhakti, love." "Krsna, what can I do for You? I am so teeny, You are so great. Still, I have tried to do something. If You kindly eat." This is mantra. Real mantra is that not so many formalities of mantra. Krsna does not say, "One who offers Me with the Vedic mantras..." Never says. Krsna says bhaktya, "with devotion."

So others may criticize you, that "These American Vaisnavas, they do not know how to do this, how to do that." Let them criticize. But Krsna says bhaktya. "You remain perfect devotee." Then your life is perfect. Krsna does not say that the Indian devotee who discriminates between touchable and untouchable and big, big panditas or deva-gosvami, not dasa-gosvami... Krsna does not discriminate like that. Krsna says bhaktya, yo me bhaktya prayacchati. Krsna wants to see how much sincere devotee you have become. That is His business. Krsna does not see, "Oh, whether you are coming from brahmana family or sudra family, this family or...?" No. Therefore in the sastras it is forbidden: vaisnave jati-buddhih. Vaisnava does not belong to the material caste. He is transcendental, because He is rendering service to Krsna on the transcendental platform. He is not in the material platform. Catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [Bg. 4.13]. That is guna. These brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, they belong to the category of the three gunas: sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. But those who are pure devotees, they are transcendental to these three gunas. Sa gunan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate. They transcend. They do not belong to these gunas. No. Mam ca yo 'vyabhicarena bhakti-yogena se... [Bg. 14.26]. Anyone who is engaged in devotional service, avyabhicarena, without any deviation, just to the rules and regulations, just to the standard, then immediately, sa gunan samatitya etan, the plural number... All these gunas, sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna... He is above brahmana. Vaisnava is above brahmana.

So this world is creation of Krsna. Mattah sarvam pravartate. Aham adir hi devanam. So we may think that Brahma created this universe, but not..., that is not the fact. Krsna said, aham adir hi devanam: "I am prior to all the demigods." He is the origin of the demigods. Aham adir hi devanam. Mattah sarvam pravartate. Everything emanates from Him. So therefore Krsna's name is bhava-bhavana. Bhava-bhavana. This world is called bhava-samsara, bhava-samsara. Bhava means become. There is another nature, spiritual world, that is not bhava, that does not become. It is always existing, nitya. Nitya-loka. Vaikuntha-loka. But this material world is called bhava. Bhava-samsara. Bhava means it appears and again disappears. Everything here -- just like your body, my body -- it has appeared at a certain date and it will disappear at a certain date. Similarly, the whole universal body also, it has appeared at a certain date and it will disappear at a certain date. So bhutva bhutva praliyate. It becomes manifested, again it becomes disappeared. Therefore it is called bhava-samsara. But still, although it is temporary, the arrangement is so nice, purnam adah purnam idam purnat purnam udacyate.. [Isopanisad, Invocation]. Everything is complete. It is not false.

The Mayavadis, they say this world is false. We don't say that. Why it is false? It is perfectly created by Krsna. Why I discredit Krsna, "Oh, it is false"? No. It is not false. It is reality, provided you know how to utilize it. When you think that you are the enjoyer of this world, that is false. You are not the enjoyer. Enjoyer is Krsna. That is reality. Bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram [Bg. 5.29]. Then it is reality. As soon as you think, "This is mine. This is my aham mameti... [SB 5.5.8]." Aham mameti, "I am this body, and anything in relationship with this body is mine," that is moha. But as soon as you come to the understanding... (creaking sound in background) What is that?

Brahmananda: Bullock cart.

Prabhupada: All right. So bhava-bhavana. Krsna... This world is created by Krsna, and He wants to see it is properly maintained. And who will maintain? His own representative. Not the demons. Therefore king is supposed to be a representative of Krsna. He will maintain this world properly. A Vaisnava, he knows how to utilize everything for Krsna. The aim of this creation is giving these conditioned souls another chance for liberation. That is the purpose. When the whole world is annihilated, then all the living entities again enter into the body of Maha-Visnu. Then, when there is again creation, then the living entities again come out, according to their past position. We do not accept this rascal theory, Darwin's, that from lower-grade life they... There is a promotion like that, but in the creation everything is there. All the 8,400,000 species, they are all there. Although the gradations are there. So according to the past karma, karmana daiva-netrena, everyone comes out again, gets a different type of body, and begins his work. Again another chance. "Yes. You come to the point of human understanding. Try to understand your relationship with Krsna and get yourself liberated. Go home, back to home, back to..." If you lose this opportunity -- this creation is made for that purpose -- then again you remain. Again, when everything is annihilated, you remain in dormant stage, millions of years. Again you become created.

So there is a great science. Everyone should try to understand what is the responsibility of human life. And to teach this responsibility, to keep men, the human society, in their responsibility, a good king is required like Maharaja Yudhisthira. Therefore king is supposed to be the representative of God. So after killing these demons, Kuru, kuror vamsa-davagni-nirhrtam samrohayitva bhava-bhavano harih nivesayitva nija-rajya isvaro yudhisthiram...

When He saw, "Now Maharaja Yudhisthira is situated on the throne for the control of the world," He..., prita-mana babhuva ha, He became satisfied: "There is My real representative, and he will work nicely."

So these two things are going on. Those who are trying to capture the governmental power for his personal ambition, they will be killed. They will be killed. This way or that way, they will be killed. And persons who are taking responsibility for maintenance of the government as representative of Krsna, they will be blessed by Krsna, and Krsna will be pleased. So at the present moment, the so-called democracy,... Nobody is representative of Krsna. Everyone is demons. Everyone is a demon. So how you can expect peace and prosperity under this government? This is not possible. If you want... We have got to think politically also, because after all, all living entities are part and parcel of Krsna, and Krsna wants their welfare so that they may come back to home, back to Godhead.

So it is the duty of the Vaisnava to see that people are gradually educated to Krsna consciousness. So perhaps it would be better if we can..., we also capture political power. As there are many parties, Communist party, Congress party, this party, that party, so there must be one Krsna's party. Why not? Then people will be happy, if Krsna's party comes to the governmental post. Immediately there will be peace. In India, in India there are so many slaughterhouses. There are... It is said that ten thousand cows are being killed everyday, in the land were one cow was being attempted to be killed, immediately Maharaja Pariksit took his sword, "Who are you?" In that land, now ten thousand cows are being killed every day. So you expect peace? You expect prosperity This is not possible. Therefore if some day Krsna's representative takes the governmental power, then he will immediately stop all these slaughterhouses, all these brothels, all these liquor houses. Then there will be peace and prosperity. Bhuta-bhavana, Krsna will be pleased, "Here is My representative."

So there are so many things to understand from Srimad-Bhagavatam, full knowledge, all knowledge, as it is required by the human society. So we have to study from all angles of vision, not simply by sentiment. This is Srimad-Bhagavatam.

Thank you very much. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.10.2 -- Mayapura, June 17, 1973