United by Chanting and Dancing

United by Chanting and Dancing

Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.26.18
Bombay, December 27, 1974

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Nitai: "By exhibiting His potencies, the Supreme Personality of Godhead adjusts all these different elements, keeping Himself within as the Supersoul and without as time."

Prabhupada:

antah purusa-rupena
kala-rupena yo bahih
samanvety esa sattvanam
bhagavan atma-mayaya
 [SB 3.26.18]

Bhagavan, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, He is exhibiting Himself in so many ways. That is summarized in the Visnu Purana. Just like the heat and light. Just like in the material world, we have got experience. The whole system of the material world is going on under the heat and light. The sunshine is diffusing unlimited quantity of heat and light, and on this heat and light the whole material existence is there. That is scientific estimate. Because the sunlight is there, the heat and light is there, the whole planetary system is rotating, there is vegetation and varieties of fruits, flowers, varieties of manifestation. This is heat and light.

Similarly, the example is given in the Visnu Purana,

eka-desa-sthitasyagner
jyotsna vistarini yatha
parasya brahmanah saktis
tathedam akhilam jagat

Just like agni, fire, eka-desa-sthita, is there is one place, localized. Agni does not move, but heat moves. That you have got experience. You have big fire in one place. The fire does not move, but you can feel the existence of fire by heat and light. Similarly, Bhagavan does not move. He has got immense power. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate [Cc. Madhya 13.65, purport]. He moves by His energy. That is the difference between the Mayavada philosopher and Vaisnava philosopher. Vaisnava philosopher says the Bhagavan is staying in one place. Goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhutah [Bs. 5.37]. He is staying. In the sastra we understand that Krsna... Vrndavanam parityajya na padam ekam gacchati: "Krsna does not leave even by a step Vrndavana." He always remains there. So in the Brahma-samhita also, it is stated that goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhutah. He is always living in Goloka Vrndavana. He does not require to move. That is His inconceivable potency. Suppose I am sitting here. Suppose I have got to do something in my apartment. So unless I go there, that business cannot be performed. This is my position. But Krsna, although He does not leave even by a step Goloka Vrndavana... He is always enjoying in company with Srimati Radharani: anandamayo 'bhyasat (Vedanta-sutra 1.1.12). His only business is ananda, sac-cid-ananda-vigraha [Bs. 5.1].

But He has got so many other businesses, so many. He has to... Sarvasya caham hrdi sannivistah. Krsna says that "I am situated in everyone's heart." And mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca: [Bg. 15.15] "And through Me the living entity is getting intelligence, remembrance." So just see how much busy He is. Everyone's heart, isvarah paramah... Isvarah sarva...

Devotees: Sarva-bhutanam.

Prabhupada: ...sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati. Isvara, the Supersoul, it is said here, antah purusa-rupena, the Supersoul. And the Bhagavad-gita also confirms, sarvasya caham hrdi sannivistah. He is situated in everyone's heart. In the Upanisads also, it is said that two birds are sitting in one tree. So one bird is eating the fruit, and the other bird is simply observing as witness. Anumanta upadrasta -- in the Bhagavad-gita. So just imagine. There is no limit of the living entities. Sa anantyaya kalpate. Anantyaya means there is no numerical count. Innumerable. Nityo nityanam. Nityanam, bahuvacana, plural number... So there is no limit of these living entities. And still, Krsna has to live within the heart of every living entity. Just see. And every living entity has different business. And He has to sanction and witness.

 

There is a common saying that "Not a blade of grass can move without the sanction of God." Actually, that is the fact. Everyone has got different propensities, and he cannot do it without the sanction of God. This is God's business. Just see. Ananta-koti, innumerable jiva, and He has to give sanction and see his business and witness, also give the result. He is witness, and He has to give the result also. Because he is doing independently, he must enjoy or suffer the activities. That is going on. Karmana daiva-netrena. He has to give different types of body. Suppose I want to eat everything -- never mind how much nonsense and nuisance it is. There are so many men, they eat everything. So he has to be offered the body of a pig, no discrimination, even stool accepted. So who is giving this body? Daiva-netrena, by superior observation. Krsna is seeing that "This living entity wants a body so that he can eat anything up to stool." So He has to judge; He has to give. Karmana daiva-netrena jantur dehopapattaye [SB 3.31.1].

So we are getting different types of body according to the... Krsna does not give directly, but He is the Supreme Lord. He has nothing to do. Na tasya karyam karanam ca vidyate. This is the Vedic information. He has nothing to do. Simply His order is sufficient. That is also confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita:

isvarah sarva-bhutanam
hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati
bhramayan sarva-bhutani
yantrarudhani mayaya
 [Bg. 18.61]

So Krsna orders only maya that "Give this living entity a body like a demigod, or a dog, or a pig, or a tree." So there are 8,400,00 varieties of body. He has to manage all these. How He is managing? Is He managing personally? No. He is managing through His potency, atma-mayaya. Here it is said, atma-mayaya. Samanvety esa sattvanam bhagavan atma-mayaya. Maya means energy, energy, tricks. This is called maya. So everything is being done by His potency. So the Mayavadi philosopher, they says, "When Bhagavan is everywhere -- His action is visible in every step, every atom, everywhere -- then the original..., where is the original form of Bhagavan? Everything is Bhagavan." That is called nirvisesavadi, nirakaravadi, "Bhagavan has no akara. He is finished. Because He is everywhere, therefore there cannot be any particular form of God." This is nirvisesavadi. That is material conception. Just like if we take something and make into pieces and throw it everywhere, the original form of that particular thing is finished. This is material conception.

But spiritual conception is different. Spiritual conception is stated in the Vedas, purnasya purnam adaya purnam eva avasisyate [Iso Invocation]. Krsna is purna, and He has expanded Himself in so many ways, so many potencies, so many forms, but still, He is Krsna. That is Krsna. You cannot think that "Because Krsna is expanded in so many forms and so many ways, therefore He is finished. There is no more Krsna. This form of Krsna is maya." No. That is Krsna, that Krsna can expand Himself... Advaitam acyutam anadim ananta-rupam [Bs. 5.33]. Ananta-rupam: you cannot count even. We are also forms of Krsna, vibhinnamsa. Everything is Krsna's form. That pantheism, they take it that "Krsna's... Everything is Krsna's form. Then where is Krsna?" No. Krsna is still Krsna. Advaitam acyutam anadim ananta-rupam adyam purana-purusam nava-yauvanam ca [Bs. 5.33]. He's still adyam, purusam adyam. Govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami **. He still remains adi. So how He has expanded? That is stated here, bhagavan atma-mayaya: by His internal potency. Bhagavan atma-mayaya. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate [Cc. Madhya 13.65, purport].

The example is given: just that the sun is localized in one place, but he is managing the whole universal affair by his heat and light. That is potency. That does not mean... For time immemorial, sun is supplying unlimited quantity of heat and light all over the universe day and night. There is no stoppage. It is not that sun's heat and light has been stopped because it is night. It is night for us, but his heat and light is being distributed. It is distributed. But still, has the sun has diminished by a small quantity? If it is possible even for the material thing... Sun is nothing but an insignificant material thing. There are millions of suns, millions and trillions of suns. That is admitted even by modern science. So this sun is only an insignificant portion of the sun category. This universe is the smallest. There are many big, big universes, and each and every universe, there is sun, there is moon, there is other things. And all these universes combined together is one fourth energy of Krsna. Ekamsena sthito jagat.

When Arjuna wanted to know about Krsna's potencies, vibhuti... He said... He says in so many ways. Then, at last, He summarized,

athava bahunaitena
kim jnatena tavarjuna
vistabhyaham idam krtsnam
ekamsena sthito jagat
 [Bg. 10.42]

"You just try to understand My potency in this way, that the whole material creation, cosmic manifestation, innumerable universes..." What are these universes? Yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya jivanti loma-vilaja jagad-anda-nathah [Bs. 5.48]. In each and every universe there is a prime lord or the creator, Lord Brahma. So there are innumerable universes, and there are innumerable Lord Brahma, innumerable Lord Sivas, everything innumerable. So yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya [Bs. 5.48]. And these innumerable universes are coming out from the breathing of Maha-Visnu. That Maha-Visnu is partial expansion of Krsna.

yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya
jivanti loma-vilaja jagad-anda-nathah
visnur mahan sa iha yasya kala-visesah...
 [Bs. 5.48]

Kala-visesa means kala, and amsa... Amsa is directly, and kala is amsa of the amsa.

There are so many things to understand the science of Krsna. Therefore Krsna says that yatatam api siddhanam kascid vetti mam tattvatah. There are many siddhas. We are not siddhas. We are trying to be siddhas. Manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye [Bg. 7.3]. Not all. Just like here the bhakti-yoga is going on, how to become siddha. But who is interested? In Bombay there are millions of people, but who is interested? Therefore Krsna says, manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye: "There are millions and millions of human beings, but out of them, one may be interested to become siddha." And if one is siddha... Yatatam api siddhanam [Bg. 7.3]. And although siddhas, those who are actually siddhas, they are trying to understand Krsna, kascit, out of... Some. Out of them, somebody may be knowing Krsna. Therefore the Krsna science is not so easy. It is not so easy. So therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu has advised, yei krsna-tattva-vetta sei guru haya [Cc. Madhya 8.128]. Yei krsna-tattva-vetta. Any person who knows the science of Krsna, he is guru, not others. Yei krsna-tattva-vetta, sei guru haya.

kiba vipra, kiba nyasi, sudra kene naya
yei krsna-tattva-vetta sei 'guru' haya
 [Cc. Madhya 8.128]

When Caitanya Mahaprabhu and Ramananda Raya was talking about spiritual realization, so Ramananda Raya was from a sudra family and he was householder and governor of Madras, politician also. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu was asking question from him and... This is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's lila: mukam karoti vacalam, how He is making a sudra, grhastha, politician, His guru, Caitanya Mahaprabhu's guru. So nobody can become Caitanya Mahaprabhu's guru, but He was playing the part. He was questioning, and Ramananda Raya was replying. So just imagine how his position was exalted. So he was little hesitating, and when very intricate questions were put before him... He was quite able to answer. He was answering. So he was feeling little hesitation, "Sir, You are coming out of a very high brahmana family and the most learned personality, and now You have taken sannyasa, the supermost position in the human society."

Sannyasa is very respectable position. Still it is honored in India. Anyone where a sannyasi goes, at least in the villages, they offer respectful obeisances and gives all kinds of comforts, still now. According to sastra, it is said if a sannyasi is not offered respect or duly honored, the punishment is the man should fast at least one day. This is Vedic system. But there are many sannyasis taking advantage of this, so we are not concerned. Neither Caitanya Mahaprabhu was a false sannyasi. He was real sannyasi. And he was also real grhastha, Ramananda Raya. So he was feeling little hesitation. To encourage him, Caitanya Mahaprabhu immediately said, "No, no. Why you are feeling hesitation? Why you are feeling inferior? You are guru." "Now, how I am guru?" "Yei krsna-tattva-vetta, sei guru haya [Cc. Madhya 8.128]." Because to become a knower of Krsna is not ordinary position. Yatatam api siddhanam kascid vetti mam tattvatah [Bg. 7.3]. One who has known Krsna is not ordinary man. Yatatam api siddhanam [Bg. 7.3]. He is above all the siddhas even. "So why you are hesitating? You know krsna-tattva; therefore I am asking from you." So this is the position.

So this Krsna consciousness movement means that training the people who come to us to make him far, far above than the siddhas, far, far above than the siddhas. And it is very easily one can become. One can hold this position of guru, who is... Guru means who is above the siddhas. Krsna-tattva-vetta. Yei krsna-tattva-vetta, sei guru haya [Cc. Madhya 8.128]. One cannot become guru unless he knows krsna-tattva. Not ordinary man. The yogis, the karmis, the jnanis, they cannot become guru. That is not sanctioned, because even one is jnani, he has to learn Krsna after many, many births; not in one life, but many, many life. If he persists to understand what is the Absolute Truth by his jnana method, by his speculative method, then still he will have to change many, many births. Then one day he may be fortunate. If he comes in contact with a devotee, then it may be possible for him to understand Krsna.

That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita: bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate [Bg. 7.19]. Who is prapadyate? Who surrenders to Krsna. Unless one understands Krsna perfectly, why one should surrender? Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. Big, big scholars they, "It is too much," they say. "It is too much. Krsna is demanding, mam ekam saranam vraja. This is too much." This is not too much; this is the real position. If he is actually advanced in his knowledge... Bahunam janmanam ante [Bg. 7.19]. That is not attainable in one life. If he persists in knowledge, understanding of the Absolute Truth, then, after many, many births, when he is actually in knowledge, then he surrenders to Krsna. Vasudevah sarvam iti sa mahatma sudurlabhah [Bg. 7.19]. That kind of mahatma... You will find so many mahatmas simply by changing the dress. Not that kind of mahatma. Sa mahatma sudurlabhah. It is very difficult to find out such mahatmas, but there are. If one is fortunate, he can meet such mahatma, and his life becomes successful. Sa mahatma sudurlabhah.

So Caitanya Mahaprabhu has made the thing very easy, very, very easy. Therefore His name is Patita-pavana. Patita-pavana. Patita means fallen, and pavana means purify. Caitanya Mahaprabhu's... Therefore we follow Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. We first of all sing or chant,

sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu nityananda
sri-advaita gadadhara srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda

[I offer my obeisances to Sri Krsna Caitanya, Prabhu Nityananda, Sri Advaita, Gadadhara, Srivasa and all others in the line of devotion.]

We beg mercy from Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and His associates. That is the way of worship in this age. You cannot approach Krsna. Then it will be sudurlabhah. Manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye, yatatam api siddhanam [Bg. 7.3]. If you try to approach Krsna... Actually we are seeing that. The Bhagavad-gita is being read by so many scholars, so many theosophists and theist, but they do not understand Krsna. You will find it practically. So many big, big scholar, so many men, they say, "I read Bhagavad-gita thrice in a day." And ask him about Krsna -- he does not know anything. You will find it practically. He will be very proud of reading Bhagavad-gita. The politicians, they take photograph, taking a Bhagavad-gita in his hand, but ask him about Krsna -- he does not know anything. Sat-khanda ramayana pare 'sita kahar baba': "He has read all the Ramayana, and he is asking, 'Well, can you say me whose father is Sita?' " He does not know whether Sita is mother or father.

So this is the position. Because he does not know who is guru and how to learn Bhagavad-gita, therefore he is frustrated. Krsna says,

tad viddhi pranipatena
pariprasnena sevaya
upadeksyanti te jnanam
jnaninas tattva-darsinah
 [Bg. 4.34]

Even Krsna, He is friend of Arjuna; still, Arjuna says, sisyas te 'ham sadhi mam prapannam [Bg. 2.7]. Krsna says..., Arjuna says that "Krsna, no more friendly talking. I agree to become Your disciple." So when he agreed to become disciple of Krsna, then He explained Bhagavad-gita. Actually, one should not explain Bhagavad-gita or any Vedic sastra unless one has agreed to become a disciple. But devotees are so kind that they preach even amongst the nondisciples just to take them to Krsna consciousness. Otherwise, according to law, one should not speak beyond the jurisdiction of his disciple because they will not understand. They will not follow the rules and regulations. How they will understand? Krsna says, yesam tu anta-gatam papam: "One who is completely free from all kinds of sinful activities." That is the primary qualification to understand Krsna or understand Bhagavad-gita.

yesam tv anta-gatam papam
jananam punya-karmanam
te dvandva-moha-nirmukta
bhajante mam drdha-vratah
 [Bg. 7.28]

Unless one comes to this position, there is no possibility of Krsna consciousness.

So how outsiders will accept? If the outsider is requested, "Sir, you do not smoke," very small thing, then "Swamiji is not very good. He puts so many restriction." And if somebody says, "No, no, you can drink, you can eat anything. It does not...," then he is very liberal. He is very liberal. So we are first of all putting these restriction: no illicit sex, no meat-eating, no intoxication, no gambling. Intoxication up to drinking tea and smoking cigarette, you have to give up. Anyone who comes to become my disciple, this is my first proposal, that "If you agree, then you come." It is not that you can do anything nonsense you like, and you become my disciple. No. Because one cannot understand Krsna unless he is restricted from the sinful activities. And these are the basic principle of sinful activities: illicit sex, and meat-eating, gambling, and intoxication. These are the four pillars of sinful life. And the whole world is addicted to these four things.

So we have to push on Krsna consciousness with great difficulty. When I went to America, I went by ship. So it stopped at the, what is that, Commonwealth Pier in Boston. So I was thinking that if "I say that 'No illicit sex, no meat-eating, and no intoxication, and no gambling,' so these people will immediately say, 'Please go home.' " (laughter) Yes. That is the position. It is... These are their daily affairs. These are their daily affairs in Western countries. And if you want to make them stop these things, they will think that "This man is lunatic." But by Krsna's grace these boys, these girls, they agreed. That is Krsna's grace. I did not expect that they will agree. In India they do not agree, and they are accustomed from childhood, from boyhood. So how they will... But Krsna's grace is so nice, Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mercy is so great, that they agreed, and they are pushing on this movement on this principle.

So why? This is due to the grace of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Patita-pavana. He can deliver the Jagai-Madhai. And what is the process? The process is:

harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam
kalau nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha
 [Cc. Adi 17.21]

If people are simply induced to chant Hare Krsna mantra... Just see. Even a child, he is taking part. It is natural. There is no distinction between black and white, no question of language, nothing. You see practically. There is white child, black child. They do not know how to speak, tut they are dancing and chanting. So this movement is so important. Somehow or other if you can engage them in chanting and dancing, the whole world will be united. What the United Nations has failed, this movement can do -- if it is not checked by the rascals. But the rascals are ready to check this movement. That is the difficulty. Otherwise, God, Krsna, is always ready to help us. How? Here it is said, antah purusa-rupena kala-rupena yo bahih. He is inside and outside. Antah, antaryami. Caitya-guru. He is acting as caitya-guru.

Krsna is very much anxious because we are suffering and we are sons of Krsna. We are part and parcel of Krsna. He is unhappy to see that you are suffering. That is natural. If the son is suffering from ailment, the father also suffers: "How the son will be cured?" The son may not know it, but the father is suffering without having that ailment. Similarly, Krsna, the..., He is the father of all living entities. Aham bija-pradah pita. Krsna says. It is not my word, but Krsna says. Sarva-yonisu kaunteya: [Bg. 14.4] "All different forms of life." Sambhavanti, aham bija-pradah pita. So Krsna is the father of everyone, and He is very much anxious for us, to get us back. Therefore He is ordering, "You rascal, why you have created so many isms? Just surrender to Me. I will give you protection. Just surrender." Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. For this purpose He comes. Yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata [Bg. 4.7]. Dharma-glani, discrepancies in the matter of religious principle, glani... What is that glani? The glani is forgetfulness of God: "No God. I am God. You are God." This is glani. But this is going on as dharma. This is Kali-yuga. What is not dharma, that is going on as dharma. Dharma means to understand God. Dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam [SB 6.3.19]. What is dharma? Dharma means the laws and instruction given by God. But at the present moment, what is God? "There is no God." Then where is dharma? Where is dharma?

So there is no dharma in the Kali-yuga. They are simply cheating. Therefore Bhagavata says, dharmah projjhita-kaitavah atra, atra srimad bhagavate: "In the Srimad-Bhagavatam all cheating type of religious system is kicked out." What is that cheating type? "There is no God." Then where is dharma? "Dharma means you become honest." But they do not know that nobody can become honest without Krsna consciousness. That is not possible. Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-gunah. Anyone who is devoid of God consciousness, he cannot be gentleman. Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-gunah.

yasyasti bhaktir bhagavaty akincana
sarvair gunais tatra samasate surah
harav abhaktasya kuto mahad...
 [SB 5.18.12]

This is the test. And Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita,

na mam duskrtino mudhah
prapadyante naradhamah
mayayapahrta-jnana
asuram bhavam asritah
 [Bg. 7.15]

So this is the test. Na mam prapadyante. Krsna says, "Who does not surrender to Me? They are these classes of men." What is that? Duskrtinah:"Always engaged in sinful activities." Krti means meritorious. But they are engaged in manufacturing atom bomb, duskrtinah. Atom bomb means killing. But discover something by which man will not die. That they are dying -- so you have discovered some instrument to die quickly. So that is duskrtinah. Merit, he has got merit, but misuse the merit. The death is there. He would have lived for, say, sixty years, and you drop atom bomb -- in ten years or twenty years finished. You cannot increase the duration of life. Therefore the so-called scientific advancement, what is that? Duskrtinah,no benefit for the human society.

The real problem is, Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam [Bg. 13.9]. Our real miserable condition of life is birth, death, old age, and disease. Where is scientific help to mitigate these miseries? There is no stoppage of birth; there is no stoppage of death; there is no stoppage of disease. You can manufacture very good medicine for disease, but you stop disease. That is not possible. So our so-called meritorious activities in scientific research and education, they have been described in the Bhagavad-gita as duskrtinah, mischievous activities. Duskrtinah. They are not actually beneficial, but they are mischievous. And why, mischievous, they are engaged, they are wasting their so much time in mischievous? Because mudhah: they do not know what is the purpose of life. They are mudhas. Na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah [Bg. 7.15].  They do not surrender to Krsna because they are naradhamah, lowest of the mankind. Why lowest of the mankind? Because this human life was given to him for understanding Krsna, and he is wasting in other way. Therefore naradhamah. "But they are so educated, university degree..." Mayayapahrta-jnanah: "Their knowledge has no meaning. It is taken away by maya." Because he does not understand Krsna, what is the use of such knowledge? Vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyah [Bg. 15.15]. Veda means knowledge. So if you actually advances knowledge, you must know what is Krsna. But they do not know Krsna. Rather, they are defying Krsna.

So this is going on. Therefore this Krsna consciousness movement is very, very important. Those who are intelligent, they will take to it and make his life successful.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

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Nitai: "O My dear mother, O daughter of Svayambhuva Manu, the time factor, as I have explained, is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, from whom the creation begins as a result of the agitation of the neutral, unmanifested nature."

Prabhupada:

prakrter guna-samyasya
nirvisesasya manavi
cesta yatah sa bhagavan
kala ity upalaksitah
 [SB 3.26.17]

Now Bhagavan Kapiladeva is describing what is the kala, time factor. Time factor is another manifestation or feature of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Kala... The beginning of creation, that is the beginning of kala. So that beginning is started by the Supreme Personality of Godhead: sa aiksata. These are the Vedic information. "The Lord glanced over the mahat-tattva." Sa asrjata. "And in this way creation began."

Creation is not without the touch of the Supreme Purusa, Person. Param brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan, purusam [Bg. 10.12]. There is purusa. The prakrti, woman, stri, if she is not in contact with a purusa, then there is no creation. There is... Samyasya. Prakrter guna-samyasya. Without the touch of purusa, prakrti remains guna-samya, no manifestation of the three gunas. Prakrter guna-samyasya nirvisesasya. At the time of nirvisesa... Nirvisesa means without variety, without varieties. Nirvisesasya manavi, addressing His mother, Devahuti. Devahuti is the daughter of Svayambhuva Manu, and Svayambhuva Manu brought the daughter before... What is Kapiladeva's father's name?

Devotees: Kardama Muni.

Prabhupada: Kardama Muni. Kardama Muni was a great mystic yogi, but he desired to marry, and immediately Svayambhuva Manu... The Svayambhuva Manu is also parampara, is the son of sun-god, Svayambhuva Manu. Imam vivasvate yogam proktavan aham avyayam, vivasvan manave praha [Bg. 4.1]. So this Manu is one of our predecessor guru. Vivasvan manave praha manur iksvakave 'bravit. Evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayo viduh [Bg. 4.2]. So the spiritual science was spoken to Vivasvan, the sun-god. Therefore the ksatriyas... There are two families: one from the sun-god, one from the moon-god. So Surya-vamsa, Candra-vamsa. So those who are ksatriyas coming from the Surya-vamsa... Lord Ramacandra also appeared in the Surya-vamsa. So prakrter guna-samyasya.

So Manu... Manu belonged to the Surya-vamsa, and the daughter of Manu is Devahuti. Therefore the son is addressing the mother, manavi. Manavi. The manusya, the word, has come from manu. Manusya. Manusya means "coming from Manu." The human race, they are coming from Manu. So therefore the human society is controlled by the Manu-samhita. There is a book, Manu-samhita, the law-giving. Manu has given law. That law... At least the Hindus or the followers of the Vedic principle, their law is Manu..., Manu-smrti. Manu-smrti is also translated in Russian language. Professor Kotovsky told me. In my statement there is. He has admitted that "We have translated the Manu-smrti." So the manava, the human race, has come from Manu. Therefore it is called manusya, manava. And the Manu's direct daughter, Devahuti, is addressed here by his (her) son, Kapiladeva, manavi.

Prakrter guna-samyasya nirvisesasya. Guna-samya. When the three modes of material nature is not agitated, it is in the neutral stage, guna-samya. The guna-samya... The Buddha philosophy is... The highest goal is guna-samya, where there is no manifestation by the agitation of the gunas. That is their ultimate goal, guna-samya, nirvana. On account of agitation of the three gunas, these manifestations are there, and that is called visesa. Visesa means varieties. And nirvisesa or nirvana-practically the same thing: "Finish these varieties and again become nirvisesa, no variety, neutral stage." That is the highest perfection of Buddha philosophy, nirvisesa-sunyavadi. There are two kinds of atheistic philosophers. One is nirvisesa, and the other is sunyavadi. So my students, therefore, they address, nirvisesa-sunyavadi-pascatya-desa-tarine. So whole world is nirvisesa-sunyavadi. Some of them are advocates of zero. There are many big, big philosophers writing on zero. They believe in zero, but they write volumes of books. Why you are wasting time writing volumes of books on zero? After all, if you are going to be zero, remain zero. So zero means disgust. Even Mahatma Gandhi, we have also heard in the paper, in the morning, the day when he was killed, the morning, he was disgusted with so many different opposing elements, letters, and news. So he said that "I don't want to live anymore. It is too much disgusting to me." And the same evening he was killed.

So this zero, void philosophy, when one becomes very much disgusted, they want to make it zero, finish everything. So this nirvisesa or zero is undeveloped stage. Just like a girl, unmarried girl, is undeveloped stage. But when she comes in contact with a purusa, then she develops with so many children. So that beginning of motherly life is called time. The time is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Purusa. Now, prakrti herself cannot produce anything. This material manifestation which we see, so beautiful cosmic manifestation, that is not alone by the prakrti, as the materialistic scientists think, that "There was a chunk, and there became manifested." These are foolish theories. Real is that in contact... Sa aiksata. That is the Vedic information. When the Supreme Personality of Godhead glanced over the prakrti, mahat-tattva, then the three gunas agitated, and she begins to give birth in so many varieties of the twenty-four elements. We have already discussed the twenty-four elements. The ingredients are there. That is prakrti. And pradhana means when they are not manifest, and prakrti means when they are manifest. And prakrti, pradhana, and above them, there is the Purusa. That Purusa is Bhagavan, sa bhagavan. Cesta yatah sa bhagavan. Wherefrom the prakrti begins to manifest, that is with the touch of Bhagavan. How touch? Sa aiksata: by simply glancing over, the prakrti becomes pregnant.

Now we cannot understand how one can make his wife pregnant simply by glancing. That is possible by Bhagavan. Therefore He is called almighty. We have got experience. If we want to make pregnant my wife, then we have to use certain sense. That particular sense can make pregnancy. But the Supreme Personality of Godhead, being all-powerful, He can do anything from anywhere from any sense. That is almighty. We speak of almighty -- "God is almighty" -- but we do not understand what is the almighty. This is almighty. The almighty Lord, simply by glancing over prakrti, He makes the prakrti pregnant, and the prakrti produces so many varieties of life. Cesta. Cesta yatah sa bhagavan.

So the prakrti cannot give birth to the varieties. That is wrong theory. That is wrong theory. The real variety begins when the prakrti is in touch with the Purusa. That is our experience also. How we can say that prakrti can give birth or woman can give birth to a child or many children without being touch with man? Where is our experience? There is no such thing. Therefore we should not take prakrti as everything. We must find out the Purusa. Therefore the purusa who gives birth to these material varieties, that is Lord Siva, and the prakrti which gives birth to these varieties, that is Durga. Therefore the original prakrti and purusa is represented by siva-linga, and devi-patha(?). Those who are worshiper of siva-linga, they know the devi-patha(?) and the siva-linga, they are worshiped. The original father, Krsna, says, aham bija-pradah pita: "I am the seed-giving father." Sarva-yonisu kaunteya sambhavanti murtayo yah [Bg. 14.4]. There are varieties of forms of life. How they are being begotten? Krsna says, aham bija-pradah pita. That pita, father, is Lord Siva.

So when Krsna comes in touch with prakrti for giving birth of these varieties of forms of life, that is Siva. That is Siva. Siva is not different from Krsna, but still, Siva is not Krsna. This is called inconceivable one and different. Inconceivable one and different. The example is given: just like milk and yogurt, dahi. Dahi is not different from milk. It is milk -- it is milk, everyone knows -- but it is not milk at the same time. You cannot get the benefit of milk by drinking dahi, or yogurt. Milk is used for different purpose, and dahi is different purpose. When you take too much milk, you get dysentery, and if you go to the physician, he gives you some medicine to take with yogurt, dahi. So dahi or yogurt, is not different from milk, but it is not milk. Similarly, all these demigods, especially Lord Siva, Lord Brahma... They are the original chief demigods from Visnu.

So these demigods or even we... We are also the same principle, the living entities. Brahma is also in the category of living entities, and Lord Siva is between the living entities and the Supreme Lord, in between. Therefore you cannot keep Lord Siva as living entity category, neither Visnu category. Via media. Ksiram yatha dadhi vikara-visesa-yogat [Bs. 5.45]. The Supreme Personality of Godhead does not come directly in touch with this prakrti, but the form by which He touches this prakrti, that is Lord Siva. Therefore Lord Siva is not different from the Supreme Personality of Godhead; at the same time, he is not the Supreme Personality of Godhead. This is the conclusion. So that cesta... Cesta yatah sa bhagavan. Therefore Lord Siva's another name is Kala-bhairava. Kala-bhairava. And he is the master of the annihilation. When this whole material creation will be required to be destroyed, it will be done by Lord Siva. It is created by Lord Brahma, it is maintained by Lord Visnu, and when it will be destroyed, it will be done by Lord Siva. Therefore there are three original demigods. So Kala-bhairava, cesta yatah sa bhagavan kala ity upalaksitah. So kala, time factor, is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. It is above these twenty-four ingredients of material elements. It is in between the spiritual element and the material element, via media, that kala. This is the description of kala.

So we should not think... The real purport of this verse should be understood that if we are misled by thinking that prakrti is working alone and is giving birth of varieties of things, savisesa, that is wrong theory. It is examplified like -- in the Caitanya-caritamrta -- just like in goats you will find on the neck, on the... It is called neck, or throat? There are some nipples. Have you seen it? So if somebody thinks that "There is nipple; there will be milk also," no. There is no milk. That is different thing. Similarly, if some person foolishly think that material nature, prakrti, is the cause of varieties of manifestation, that is wrong. That is wrong. It is done by the Purusa, the Supreme Person, through the agency of prakrti. Just like a man begets children through the agency of woman, similarly, the varieties of this material world is due to the Supreme Person, Purusa. Purusam sasvatam, original, eternal Purusa. That is accepted by Arjuna in the Bhagavad-gita: param brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan [Bg. 10.12]. Bhavan: "You are purusam sasvatam."

So God is always purusa. Purusa means the enjoyer, the male part. Male and female-two parts required, negative and positive. So the male part is Bhagavan, and the female part is the prakrti, and combination of purusa and prakrti is the varieties of creation. This is Sankhya philosophy. So you should not be misled that prakrti itself has given so varieties of manifestation, cosmic manifestation. That is not possible. You have to accept the purusa theory by your practical experience, that without purusa, no prakrti can give birth anything. Similarly, these varieties of manifestation in the world, in the material world, it is due to the combination of prakrti and purusa.

So the atheistic philosopher, they think that this combination of prakrti and purusa is without any aim, without any idea, just like a man and woman meets and they may have sex. There was no idea, but they have sex. They give this example. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, Sixteenth Chapter. There is no aim, and that purusa becomes subdued by the prakrti, and the manifestation comes. But this Kapiladeva, you will find, and we Vaisnava philosophers, we do not admit this, that "without any aim." There is aim. Why Krsna says that this material world, bhutva bhutva praliyate [Bg. 8.19]? Bhutva bhutva. There is aim. The manifestation of prakrti, cosmic manifestation, is there to give the living entities another chance for liberation. One chance is given. Just like we have got. Sri Prakrti is now manifested, and we are living entities. We are here, sarva-yonisu kaunteya sambhavanti murtayo yah [Bg. 14.4], in many varieties. So what is the aim? The aim is God realization. By evolutionary process, gradually, we come to the human form of life. Asitim caturas caiva jiva-jatisu, jiva-jati. Jiva, under different species of life, they are evolving.

jalaja nava-laksani
sthavara laksa-vimsati
krmayo rudra-sankhyakah
paksinam dasa-laksanam

In this way, the evolution is coming -- from aquatics to plants life, the insect, reptiles, then birds, then beast, then human life.

So this human life, civilized human life, followers of the Vedic principle... That is the civilized life, Aryans. Arya. Therefore the followers of Vedic principles, they are called arya, advanced. Because those who are follower... Just like Manu-samhita. It is Aryan literature, Vedic literature. So Aryan means advanced. Advanced means civilized. So if we civilized people, we give up this Aryan literature or Vedic literature and take to Jasoushi(?) literature to waste our time, sex literature, then we are committing suicide. The Caitanya-caritamrta says, anadi-bahirmukha jiva krsna bhuli' gela. That Krsna is the original father, we have forgotten. Anadi. Anadi means before the creation. Adi means the creation. So this is a chance. This creation is there to give us chance to come to our original position, Krsna consciousness. So there is aim. It is not without aim. There is aim. And when there is creation, when there is civilized human being, and still they are not taking to Krsna consciousness, then Krsna comes personally to teach them.

yada yada hi dharmasya
glanir bhavati bharata...
tadatmanam srjamy aham
 [Bg. 4.7]

So this civilized nation should take advantage of this Vedic literature. The Kardama Muni is teaching Sankhya philosophy, Krsna is teaching Bhagavad-gita, and if we do not take advantage of these thing, then again we are in the oblivion. Again this cosmic manifestation will be annihilated, and we will remain in slumbering state for many millions and millions of years. Again there will be creation: bhutva bhutva praliyate [Bg. 8.19]. This is the mode of creation. So we should take advantage of this Vedic literature. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet [MU 1.2.12]. One, everyone, should approach the bona fide spiritual master and take lessons from the Vedic literature. Then this life will be successful. We are rotting in this material world. Bhutva bhutva praliyate [Bg. 8.19]. Getting one short type of body, live there for some time, again it is annihilated, again another body. And we do not know what kind of body. That will depend on our karma. So... But you have to accept. Tatha dehantara-praptih [Bg. 2.13].

So this is going on under the influence of kala. So people should be enlightened that "Don't remain asleep." Uttisthata jagrata prapya varan nibodhata. "Now you are civilized human being. You can read and write. You can understand." So jagrata: "Now get up, be awakened. Study this Vedic literature, especially the essence of Vedic literature, Srimad-Bhagavatam." Nigama-kalpa-taror galitam phalam [SB 1.1.3]. Nigama means Vedic literature, Vedic knowledge. And it is its ripened fruit, nigama-kalpa-taror galitam phalam idam, Srimad-Bhagavatam. So hear Srimad-Bhagavatam, chant Hare Krsna, and be successful in your life.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

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Fear The Time Factor

Fear The Time Factor

Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.26.16
Bombay, December 25, 1974

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Nitai: "The influence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead is felt in the time factor, which causes fear of death due to the false ego of the deluded soul who has contacted material nature."

Prabhupada:

prabhavam paurusam prahuh
kalam eke yato bhayam
ahankara-vimudhasya
kartuh prakrtim iyusah
 [SB 3.26.16]

So the time factor is the representation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In the Bhagavad-gita, when Krsna manifested His visva-rupa, Arjuna became very afraid of and inquired, "Who are You?" So at that time Krsna said, "I am kala. I have appeared to destroy." So kala is representation, time. We have discussed twenty-five elements. The five maha-bhuta and five suksma-bhuta, ten senses, twenty-four internal senses, these twenty-four elements, and above that, the kala, time factor. That's all. So kala is destructive factor.

We may, however, defy the existence of God. Atheist class of men, demons, they always defy, "Who is God? I am God." But everyone is under the control of time factor. The time factor, in due course, will bring him death. So at that time, how one can deny the existence of God? Mrtyuh sarva-haras caham [Bg. 10.34]. Krsna says that "I am death, and My business is to take away everything." Mrtyuh sarva-haras caham. So time factor will take away everything, what we create with these twenty-four elements. So time is very strong, kala. However we may defy the existence of God, the time factor is there. We have to accept it. And it is said, kalam eke yato bhayam. And because we are under the control of the time at the present moment in material existence, therefore there is bhayam. Bhayam means ultimately death. Bhayam. Bhayam dvitiyabhinivesatah syad isad apetasya viparyayo 'smrtih.

The description of bhayam is given in the Bhagavatam. What is this bhayam, fearfulness? Bhayam, isad apetasya viparyayo 'smrtih: "Those who have forgotten the Supreme Lord and have identified themselves with this material world, for them, the fearfulness is there." But those who are not in the material existence but in the spiritual existence or spiritual life or spiritual activities, for them, there is no bhayam. Abhayam sattva-samsuddhih, in the Bhagavad-gita it is said. Bhayam is there, fearfulness is there, so long our existence is not purified. Then there is bhayam. And when existence is purified, then there is no bhayam, no fearfulness. Just like Prahlada Maharaja was put to so many trials or tribulation by his father, but he was never afraid of. This is the sign of spiritual advancement, because so long I identify myself with this matter, there will be bhayam, and when I am out of this conception of material existence, when I understand that "I am spirit soul," aham brahmasmi, then there is no more bhayam, no fearfulness.

Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati [Bg. 18.54]. This is the symptom of abhayam. Therefore Krsna's lotus feet are described, abhaya-caranaravinda re. Bhajahun re mana sri-nanda-nandana-abhaya-caranaravinda re. If we take shelter of the lotus feet of Krsna, which is called abhaya-carana, no more bhayam. Bhayam dvitiyabhinivesatah. When, so long we think that "I am something of this material existence," there will be bhayam. And when we realize that "This material existence is superficial. I have nothing to do with it," asango 'yam purusah, "I have no connection with it," then there is no bhaya, no fearfulness.

So this kala, past, present, and future, tri-kala... Kala is exhibited in three features: past, present, and future. That is in the material existence. And if one becomes above the three kalas, in the eternal time... Time is eternal, but in the material existence there is past, present, and future. In the spiritual existence there is no past, no future, only present. Only present. Everything are fresh, present, nitya-navayamana, only feelings, new, new. That is spiritual existence, anandambudhi-vardhanam, only present -- no future, no past. That we cannot realize now, but we can get the knowledge from Vedic literature. The time factor... In the material world there is past, present, and future. Otherwise, time factor is eternal.

So prabhavam paurusam prahuh kalam. So we have to feel the influence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead in this time factor. We cannot deny it. Because in due course of time, according to the time factor, everything will be finished. Everything will be finished. The present existence will be finished, and then we will have to accept another existence. This is all due to the time. Time is over; then one body is changed into another. So this is the influence of time. Nature is working under the influence of time, and that time factor is enforcing the influence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore it is called prabhavam paurusam prahuh kalam. This is the influence. You have to abide by the influence of time. That means influence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. However you deny... Just like crazy fellow. They think that "I have nothing to do with government laws." But the influence of government must be felt when he is arrested and put into the jail. Similarly, by time factor we may do something now without any fear, but time factor will place me in the fearful condition without any fail.

So ahankara-vimudhasya. We are now vimudha. Now when you say that "These mudhas," they become angry. But actually, this is the verdict of the sastra. So long you are within the time factor, within the material nature, you are vimudha. We are all vimudha. Ahankara-vimudhasya. And the same thing is explained in the Bhagavad-gita: ahankara-vimudhatma kartaham iti manyate [Bg. 3.27]. Nobody is karta. Here the prakrti is karta. Just like when you are under the influence of some contaminated disease, at that time, that disease infection is karta. You are not karta. That is our practical experience. When you are in high fever, then your so-called mastership is gone. You are under the mastership of the feverish condition. Similarly, we spirit soul, although we are better in quality than the material element... That is described in the Bhagavad-gita, apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakrtim param, jiva-bhutam: "The jiva, living entities, they are better quality than the material elements." But still, on account of his viparyayo 'smrtih, forgetting God -- we are leading a different type of civilization or different type of life -- therefore we have been subjected to the influence of time. This is Krsna's, or God's, influence.

Just like in the prison life we are subjected to the rules and regulation of the prison house on account of disobeying the government laws, similarly, when we are disobedient to the laws of God, at that time, we are put into this material existence under the influence of time, and therefore our conditional life is always fearful. Bhayam dvitiyabhinivesatah syad isad apetasya viparyayo 'smrtih. Everyone is thinking differently, all living entities. Somebody is thinking, "I am Indian." Somebody is thinking, "I am American," "Hindu," "Muslim," "Christian," "black," "white." So many ways we are thinking. Viparyayo 'smrtih. Our real identity is when we understand that "I am not Hindu, not Muslim, not Christian, nor American, nor Indian, but I am eternal servant of Krsna." Then there is no more fear. That is fear... Bhajahun re mana, sri-nanda-nandana-abhaya-caranara...

Therefore the Vaisnava poet advises that "You take to the shelter of the lotus feet of Krsna." Abhaya-caranaravinda re: "Just be engaged in the devotional service of the abhaya-carana, Krsna's..." Then your existence will be purified and you will have no more fear. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma [Bg. 18.54]. You will be... This material life, so long we are conscious of this material existence, we are always fearful, full of anxieties. Tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat [SB 7.5.5]. The more we possess asat-vastu-asat-vastu means the material things -- there will be more anxiety. Therefore, according to Gaudiya Vaisnava principle, Caitanya Mahaprabhu's life and His next disciples', the Gosvamis', life is to completely get free from any material possession. Vairagya. Vairagya-vidya. This spiritual life... Therefore in Bharatavarsa, in India, you will see big, big kings, they give up their kingdom, their opulent life, wife, children, and become a mendicant, a beggar -- not beggar, but renounced everything. This Bharatavarsa is under the name of Maharaja Bharata. His life is described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, Fifth Canto, how he gave up his wife, children, kingdom, everything, and he lived alone in the forest, Pulastya, Pulaha-asrama. But still, maya is so strong, he became attached to a small deer. And for that reason, he had to wait for his liberation three lives.

So the spiritual life is very delicate. We have to conduct the spiritual life very cautiously. Little deviation may create great havoc. Great havoc means again material life. And material life means suffering, bhayam dvitiyabhinivesatah, always in fearfulness. So long we are in this material life, there must be fearfulness. Bhayam dvitiyabhinivesatah syat. That is described here. Kalam eke yato bhayam. So long you are wrapped up within these twenty-four elements, under the influence of time factor, then you will have to feel fearfulness, although actually by constitutional position, you have no fear. Every one of us, we know... Not everyone. At least, those who are little advanced in understanding Bhagavad-gita, the A-B-C-D of spiritual knowledge, at least theoretically, one knows that he is not this body. But still, when the body is in danger, we become fearful because we are existing in this material environment. Bhayam dvitiyabhinivesatah syat. So in order to get out of this fearful situation of life... That is material life. If we take shelter of the lotus feet of abhaya-caranaravinda re, Krsna, then this bhayam element, fearfulness element, will be completely nil.

So ahankara-vimudhatma kartaham... [Bg. 3.27]. Our identification, false identification... The four subtle senses: mana, buddhi, ahankara, citta, consciousness... So when the consciousness is materially absorbed, then there is fear, and when the consciousness is pure -- "consciousness pure" means Krsna consciousness, "I am eternal servant of Krsna" -- then there is no bhaya. The more we advance in Krsna consciousness, the more we become free from fearfulness. Therefore Prahlada Maharaja advises hitvatma-patam grham andha-kupam vanam gato yad dharim asrayeta [SB 7.5.5]. The real position of fearlessness is harim asrayeta, take shelter of Hari. Hari means who takes away all subjective things of fearfulness. That is Hari. He takes away all our miserable condition of life, Hari. Harim asrayeta. Tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat.

We have accepted the asat, these twenty-four elements as described before, as identification with me. Asat: they are not permanent: temporary situation, changing one after another. So asad-grahat, sada samudvigna-dhiyam, always full of anxiety, "What will happen next? What will happen next?" You will see even a small insect, birds, beasts, human being, animal, even elephants, tiger, lions -- everyone is fearful. There cannot be any fearlessness in this material existence. Even big nation, American nation, they are also fearful of the Russian. And the Russians are fearful of the Americans. You can see. The whole political field... Our Indians are fearful of Pakistan. Pakistan is fearful... This is material existence. You cannot avoid it unless you take shelter at the lotus feet of Krsna.

Krsna assures, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah [Bg. 18.66]. He gives shelter and assurance that "Don't be afraid of. When you have taken shelter of Me, then there is no cause of fear."

samasrita ye pada-pallava-plavam
mahat-padam punya-yaso murareh
bhavambudhir vatsa-padam param padam
padam padam yad vipadam na tesam
 [SB 10.14.58]

This material world is padam padam vipadam, only danger. Every step there is danger. That's a fact. So if we take shelter of that abhaya-caranaravinda, then we have no fear. This is a fact. Abhayam sattva-samsuddhih. Sattva-samsuddhih. Our existence, when it is purified... So this bhakti-marga, or devotional service, is the process of purifying, purifying process.

srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah
punya-sravana-kirtanah
hrdy antah-stho abhadrani
vidhunoti suhrt satam
 [SB 1.2.17]

Satam, those who are devotees, they are simply engaged in Krsna consciousness. This Krsna consciousness begins: srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah. Simply these centers are created to give chance to the people in general to hear about Krsna. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah. Because as soon as we hear about Krsna attentively and try to assimilate it, then the purification of the heart begins.

ceto-darpana-marjanam bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam
sreyah-kairava-candrika-vitaranam vidya-vadhu-jivanam
anandambudhi-vardhanam prati-padam purnamrtasvadanam
sarvatma-snapanam param vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam
 [Cc. Antya 20.12]

So sri-krsna-sankirtanam is so nice. It has no expenditure, no loss, simply gain. If you kindly hear sri-krsna-sankirtana, if you cannot chant Sri Krsna, the holy name of Krsna, you are so reluctant, or if you cannot because to chant Hare Krsna mantra, that also requires little fortune... Aho bata sva-paco 'to gariyan yaj-jihvagre nama tubhyam. Anyone who is chanting on the top of his tongue, where there is name, holy name, he is gariyan sva-paco 'tah. Even though he is born in low-grade family, the dog-eaters, it is still gariyan. Aho bata sva-paco 'to gariyan yaj-jihvagre nama tubhyam. So in this Kali-yuga, if you simply chant or even if you cannot chant -- because that requires little fortune -- if we simply hear, that will also help us. So these centers are meant for chanting and hearing about Krsna. Simply this process, chanting and hearing, will purify our existence. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah [SB 1.2.17]. It will increase piety of life. Punya-sravana-kirtanah. Anyone who is hearing and one who is chanting, both of them, sravana-kirtanah... This is the beginning.

So srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah. We become purified. This is purificatory process. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam tat-paratvena nirmalam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. Nirmalam means purification. On account of impure life, we are embarrassed with so many designation, impure life. So we have to become designationless, no designation, sarvopadhi... "I am not Hindu. I am not Mussalman. I am not Christian. I am not brahmana." This is designation. Even sannyasi... Caitanya Mahaprabhu, therefore, naham vipro na ca nara-patir yatir va, He described Himself, "No, I am not ksatriya. I am not brahmana. I am not sannyasi. I am not grhastha. I am not vaisya." simply negation. He simply said, gopi-bhartuh pada-kamalayor dasa-dasanudasah: [Cc. Madhya 13.80] "I am the servant of servant of servant of the gopi-bhartuh, the maintainer of the gopis, Krsna."

So that is pure life, when we think like that, that "We are no more servant." Nayam kinkaram, that is, what is called, indemnifying this contaminated existence of material life. "Simply I identify as servant of the Supreme Lord." Then you become purified, designationless.

sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam
tat-paratvena nirmalam
hrsikena hrsikesa-
sevanam bhaktir ucyate
 [Cc. Madhya 19.170]

Bhakti means when you are designationless, purified in Krsna consciousness, then, when your senses are purified, the senses are no more material. In our contaminated state, our senses are acting in designation. "I am Indian. I have to work for India. The others must go out of India." Or others are thinking, "Now your visa is finished. Now you can go out. You cannot stay here." This is all due to designation. But real life is designationless. The United Nations is working, but there is not... They are not working on the platform of becoming designationless. They want to keep the designations. They are struggling there to become united for the last twenty years. And the... We have seen in New York the United Nations center. Only the flags are increasing, because unless one becomes designationless, no designation, there cannot be any unity.

Unity is possible on the spiritual platform, not on the material platform. Material platform means "I am envious of you; you are envious of me." Matsarata. Matsarata means matsarata para utkarsah asahanam:(?) When I cannot tolerate other increasing in opulence, I become envious. This is material life. The spiritual life is different. Spiritual life means if somebody has advanced in spiritual life, and somebody, one, he is still in the neophyte stage, he will eulogize, "Oh, how fortunate he is. He has advanced. He is serving Krsna in such a nice way. When I can get that position." There is no enviousness. That is glorifying. That is the distinction between material life and spiritual life. Spiritual (material) life means enviousness: "How to kill you, how to stop you." But spiritual life means to see you advancing, one becomes happy, "Oh, how fortunate he is." This is spiritual life. Therefore spiritual life is meant for a person who is completely not envious. That is spiritual life. Paramo nirmatsaranam satam vastavam vastu vedyam atra. Dharmah projjhita-kaitavo 'tra [SB 1.1.2]. This Bhagavata-dharma is meant for the person, paramo nirmatsara, paramahamsa. He is not envious of anyone. Suhrdah sarva-dehinam [SB 3.25.21].

We have discussed this word in Kapiladeva's Sankhya philosophy: sadhu. Sadhu is suhrdah sarva-dehinam. Sarva-dehinam means all living entities in all forms of life. That is called sarva-dehinam. "I am for Indians and not for the Englishmen or Americans," or "I am for the human being. I am not for the cows and goats. They should be sent to the slaughterhouse" -- these things are happening on account of no Krsna consciousness, limited, crippled ideas. And it is going on in the name of philanthropism, nationalism, communism, this "ism" and that "ism." These "isms" will not help us unless you come to the platform of Krsna-ism, that "Everything belongs to Krsna." Isavasyam idam sarvam [Iso mantra 1]. Practically. If we accept... The United Nations, is working so hard, but they cannot make that the whole world belongs to all living being. Then immediately it will be... All questions will be solved. I was discussing this evening: there is so much land still uncultivated. And if the overpopulated people are allowed to go there and cultivate and grow their food grains, ten times of the living entities on this face of the globe can be fed without any difficulty. Annad bhavanti bhutani [Bg. 3.14].

So everything is there, but we don't accept. Under designation, we are fighting, that's all. Under designation, under ignorance, we are fighting. We are forgetting Krsna. Therefore our miserable condition, bhaya, fearfulness. Bhayam dvitiyabhinivesatah isad apetasya viparyayo 'smrtih. Viparyayo 'smrtih means just opposite understanding. Everything belongs to God. Isavasyam idam sarvam [Iso mantra 1]. That's a fact. But I am thinking, "It is my land." Aham mameti [SB 5.5.8]. Janasya moho 'yam aham mameti. Nothing belongs to us. Everything belongs to Krsna. If we accept Krsna, the center, and we work under His direction, as it is said in the Bhagavad-gita, our life is successful, our whole program is peaceful. All tranquility, everything is there.

Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)

 

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Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.26.15
Bombay, December 24, 1974

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Nitai: "All these are considered the qualified Brahman. The mixing element, which is known as time, is counted as the twenty-fifth element."

Prabhupada:

etavan eva sankhyato
brahmanah sagunasya ha
sanniveso maya prokto
yah kalah panca-vimsakah
 [SB 3.26.15]

So sankhyata, sankhyayati iti sankhya. This is Sankhya philosophy, to know analytical study of the whole cosmic manifestation. That is called Sankhya philosophy. It is physical. And the kala is via media. And then the soul and the Supersoul. So if we understand thoroughly this analytical study of the whole thing, then we know Sankhya philosophy, sankhyata, Sankhya, in its numerical count.

So twenty-four elements we have discussed yesterday: the five gross elements, and the five sense objects, and five knowledge gathering senses, and five working senses -- twenty -- and four internal senses -- twenty-four -- and then again, all under the control of time, the fifth, or twenty-fifth. And above these there is the soul and Supersoul. That is spiritual. These are all material, analytical study of the material composition of this cosmic manifestation. This is called Sankhya philosophy.

So here there is one word, brahmanah sagunasya. These twenty-four or twenty-five material elements is covering the Brahman, and therefore he is called saguna. There are two words generally used, saguna and nirguna. Saguna means material, and nirguna means spiritual. So in the Bhagavad-gita Arjuna is advised to come to the platform of nirguna. Traigunya-visaya veda nistraigunyo bhavarjuna. That is the aim of life. We are also Brahman. We are part and parcel of Brahman, Supreme Brahman; therefore we are also Brahman. Brahman realization is not very difficult thing, provided we want to realize. And how we want? You take instruction from the Bhagavad-gita, and if you accept it, then immediately your Brahman realization is there. Krsna says that "These jivas, they are My part and parcel." So if Krsna is Brahman, Parabrahman, then we are Brahman. If we accept this... We have to accept because that is the constitutional position. We are part and parcel of Krsna.

So we are part and parcel of Krsna. Therefore it is our constitutional position to live with Krsna. Just like the part and parcel of my body, this finger. Finger is the part and parcel of my body. It must live with the body; then it is active. And if you cut the finger and throw on the ground, you may call, "It is finger," but it is useless. Unless it is in contact with the body, acting with the body... Then it is valuable. Take any example, any machine, the screw in the machine, a very insignificant part, but so long it is attached with the whole machine, it has got value. If one screw is lost, if you have to purchase from the market, you will have to pay some value. But the same screw, if it is not attached to the machine, it has no value. Similarly, we are very insignificant spiritual spark. We are, by quality, the same because we are spirit, eternal. Na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20]. Na jayate na mriyate va kadacit. So we also do not die, we do not take birth. And Krsna is also: ajo 'pi sann avyayatma bhutanam isvaro 'pi san. He is also aja; we are also aja. But He is bhutanam isvarah. Bhutanam, all the living entities, He is the Supreme. Nityo nityanam. Nityo nityanam. He is the chief, leader.

We require a leader. Any field of activities, we require a leader. Suppose for getting independence, we had to follow one leader, Mahatma Gandhi. Therefore for guidance we require a leader. And the supreme leader is Krsna. So if we follow Krsna, the supreme leader, then our life is successful. And if we do not follow... Therefore Krsna says, "You rascal, you fool, mudha, you just follow Me." Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. This is the whole story of spiritual life. Krsna is the supreme leader. He is also a living being, He is also person like you and me, but He is sad-aisvarya-purna. Therefore He is called Bhagavan. We cannot be called Bhagavan because our power is very limited, not purna. Therefore we become saguna. Krsna does not become saguna. The Mayavada theory, that God, when He incarnates, He becomes saguna, that is wrong theory. Here it is said that brahmanah sagunasya ha. Sagunasya brahmanah, these twenty-five elements, they cover him, that means the living entity who has come in this material world. But Kapiladeva or Krsna, Bhagavan, He is not saguna; He is always nirguna. Nirguna guna ca. In... The Bhagavan says in the Bhagavad-gita, "Although He is nirguna, but He is the controller of the gunas." Krsna is not controlled. Mama maya gunamayi. Krsna says, daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya [Bg. 7.14]. Mama maya: "This maya, this energy, is My energy." So energy is controlled by the energetic. Suppose if you have got some energy, you can control it. Suppose if you have got very good energy to kill anyone or to hurt one or to beat anyone, good strength, but that strength is not beyond you. The strength is under your control. When you like, you can use it; when you do not like, you cannot use it, you do not use it.

Therefore this maya, this material world, saguna, that is also Krsna's energy. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya [Bg. 7.14]. Krsna is not maya's, but maya is Krsna's. We have to understand that way, not that Krsna becomes enveloped or overpowered by maya. That is wrong theory. The Mayavadi theory is like that, that "I am Krsna. I am God. Now I am overpowered by maya, and as soon as I become free from maya, again I become Krsna." But the question is that "If you are Krsna, if you are God, then why you became under the control of maya? What kind of God you are?" Just like in the English Constitution it is said that "The king can do no wrong." So you cannot bring king under any law. Others will come -- even if he is minister, he will come under the law -- but the king cannot come under the law. This is the English Constitution. Similarly, God cannot be under maya. Others, everyone under the...

prakrteh kriyamanani
gunaih karmani sarvasah
ahankara-vimudhatma
kartaham iti manyate
 [Bg. 3.27]

Everyone is under the control of maya. Nobody is free. But there are two maya, yoga-maya and maha-maya. Maha-maya, this material world, and yoga-m aya the spiritual world. If you agree to be under the yoga-maya, then you are happy. Just like there are two kinds of laws: civil laws and criminal laws. You have to remain under one of these laws. But if you live under criminal law, then you go to the jail, and if you live under civil law, then you are free. But in either condition, you cannot say that "I am free of law." That is foolishness. That is foolishness. The atheist class of men, they say that "We do not believe in God." But that is craziness. You may believe God or may not believe, but you are under the stringent laws of God. That you cannot say, that "I am free." No. Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam [Bg. 13.9]. You may be very big scientist, very big man, very big prime minister and whatever you may be. You are under the control of these criminal laws: janma, birth; mrtyu, death; old age, and disease. Then how you are independent? Where is your independence? How we can say that "You are free. You don't require to obey the laws, or dharma"?

Dharma means the laws of God. This is the simple definition of dharma. Dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam [SB 6.3.19]. So when we defy the religious principles... Religious principle means that dharma, not your created dharma. You cannot create law at home. It is given already. What is that? Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam... [Bg. 18.66]. This is dharma. All other dharmas, so-called dharmas, they are all cheating. Therefore Bhagavata says, dharmah projjhita-kaitavah atra: "All cheating type of religious system is kicked out, rejected." Actually, it is not required. It is simply bogus. Real dharma is here, to abide by the laws of God. That is real dharma. Then if you have no conception of God, if you have no knowledge what is the laws of God, then you are adharmika, you are simply transgressing the laws of dharma. And to transgress the laws of dharma, you are sinful, you are punishable. And that is going on. Material life means that. Material life means defying the laws of God, denying the existence of God. And one wants to become himself God. These are the material activities. So we may do so, may defy, but the laws will act. Laws will act.

So the saguna Brahman means the living entities. Saguna Brahman does not mean the God, Krsna, Bhagavan, because even if you become servant of God... Just like there are so many nice example, that if an ordinary man beats another man, slap, he immediately becomes criminal. Law is there, "You cannot do that." But the policeman gives you a slap -- it is not criminal. If you kill somebody, then you become criminal. But when a soldier kills hundreds of men, he is not criminal. The process is the same, but because one is acting on behalf of the supreme lawgiver, he is immune. So that is stated in the Bhagavad-gita,

mam ca yo 'vyabhicarena
bhakti-yogena sevate
sa gunan samatityaitan
brahma-bhuyaya kalpate
 [Bg. 14.26]

"Anyone who is engaged in the service of the Lord, he becomes immediately nirguna." Sa gunan samatitya etan, plural number, etan gunan, the sattva-rajas-tamo-guna, samatitya. Samyak-rupena atitya.

So if a devotee becomes nirguna immediately, as soon as he is engaged in devotional service of the Lord, how the Supreme Lord can become saguna? Just try to understand. Use your logic. If one becomes a devotee of the nirguna, he becomes nirguna, so why the nirguna God can be saguna? This Mayavadi theory is not very logical, that when God comes He is saguna, He accepts this material body. No. That is not possible. Why He should accept body? He is all-powerful. He cannot be affected by the material laws. A man is suffering from some disease, infected. That does not mean when the physician comes to treat him he is also infected. He knows how to protect himself, disinfectant.

So saguna, this word... The Mayavadi theory is saguna worship and nirguna worship. Saguna worship means when you worship a deity, in form, that is called saguna worship. And when you meditate upon impersonal, that is nirguna. That is their theory. But meditation is not possible unless there is form. Without form, meditation means... That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, klesah adhikataras tesam avyaktasakta-cetasam: "One who is trying to meditate upon the impersonal Brahman," klesah, "it is very troublesome," because we are not accustomed to concentrate our mind, meditate upon anything which is impersonal. That is not possible. We simply try to do that under labor, under trouble, klesah adhikataras tesam avyaktasakta-cetasam, whereas devotee, he immediately sees Krsna in the temple: "Here is Krsna. Here is Radharani.' Arca-vigraha. Krsna has appeared to be visible. We cannot see Krsna or God by these material eyes, but as we can be seeing, as we can appreciate, as we can touch, Krsna has accepted the form to be touched by us, to be seen by us, to be served by us. This is called arca-vigraha. It is not idol worship. The Mayavadi says it is imagination. No, not it is imagination. Arca-vigraha. Vigraha. Krsna is vigraha, sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, isvarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah [Bs. 5.1], His form.

So we should always remember, when we speak of saguna, saguna means saguna Brahman. Saguna Brahman means we, the living entities, not Krsna or Bhagavan. He is not saguna. He is always nirguna. Etat isasya isanam. This is the supremacy of the Supreme Person, that although He comes within this material world, incarnates as incarnation, He is not affected by the material qualities. That is isanam. Otherwise how He is isvara? Isvara means controller. If, when He comes in the material world, if He becomes controlled by the material nature, then how He is controller? He is not controller. Then He becomes controlled. We are controlled. Krsna is never controlled. He is always the controller. Isvarah paramah krsnah [Bs. 5.1]. Isvara means controller. So He is the supreme controller. He is the controller of these energies also, maya. So how He can be under maya? This is mistaken theory. Krsna is always supreme, Adhoksaja. Krsna's another name is Adhoksaja.

sa vai pumsam paro dharmo
yato bhaktir adhoksaje
ahaituky apratihata
yayatma suprasidati
 [SB 1.2.6]

Adhoksaja means beyond, avan manasa-gocarah, beyond the reach of our thinking, speculation.

So Krsna is always nirguna in any condition, any circumstances. But those who are mudhas, avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritam [Bg. 9.11]. But because Krsna incarnates or comes, tadatmanam srjamy aham, He comes, we think, because we are foolish person, mudha, we think that "Krsna is also one of us." That is not the fact. Saguna Brahman, nirguna Brahman, we should distinguish, that Krsna is always nirguna Brahman, but we are saguna Brahman. We are Brahman, but because we are not Parabrahman or Supreme Brahman, we are subjected, we are prone to be covered by these material qualities. Therefore our business is again to recover ourself from these twenty-five elements, material elements. And that is only possible, as it is prescribed by Krsna, sa gunan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate. What is that? Mam ca yo 'vyabhicarena bhakti-yogena sevate [Bg. 14.26]. You just engage yourself in bhakti-yoga process, mam avyabhicarena, without any mixture, without any deviation. And how it can be, deviation? Anyabhilasita-sunyam [Brs. 1.1.11], without any material desire, without any motive. Jnana-karmady-anavrtam [Cc. Madhya 19.167], not mixed up with fruitive activities or speculative knowledge-pure, simple.

You cannot bring Krsna under your speculative knowledge, avan manasa-gocarah, because He is beyond the scope of the activities of the mind, Adhoksaja. Therefore don't try to bring Krsna within your speculative knowledge. Speculative knowledge, how can you go? That is Dr. Frog. Dr. Frog cannot... Frog is in the well, three-feet well, and how he can imagine about the Atlantic Ocean? It is not possible. Avan manasa-gocarah. So don't try to speculate upon God. You will never find God. If you want to go by the speculative knowledge, trying to find out what is God just like the theosophist and many other societies -- they do that, speculating -- you cannot reach God by speculation. That is not. Because your senses are limited. How you can reach God, the unlimited, by speculative knowledge? That is not possible.

athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-
prasada-lesanugrhita eva hi
janati tattvam bhagavan-mahimno
na canya eko 'pi ciram vicinvan
 [SB 10.14.29]

Ciram vicinvan: "For millions and millions of years, if you simply speculate, you cannot reach what is God." It is not possible. But athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-prasada-lesanugrhita eva: "One who has received a little mercy, causeless mercy, my Lord, he can understand." Little mercy.

So how the little mercy can be obtained? That is also explained in the Bhagavad-gita: bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan yas casmi tattvatah [Bg. 18.55]. "You can get mercy of the Supreme Lord simply by devotional service, bhaktya." He doesn't say by knowledge, jnanena, or karmena. He never says. Or yogena. No. These are not the process to understand the Absolute Truth. You can make little advance, but it is... Avan manasa-gocarah. What advance you can make with your limited senses? That is not possible. He is beyond the scope of my mental activities. So you cannot reach that. Therefore Krsna has recommended that "If you want to know Me, then you have to adopt this process, bhakti-yoga." And Krsna accepts everything through bhakti. Patram puspam phalam toyam yo me bhaktya prayacchati [Bg. 9.26]. Not these karmis, jnanis. He doesn't accept anything from the hands of karmis and jnanis. Karmis and jnanis cannot approach Him, what to speak of accepting their offering. That is not possible. They cannot approach Him.

Therefore bhakti means karma-jnana-anavrtam. Anyabhilasita-sunyam jnana-karmady-anavrtam [Brs. 1.1.11]. Don't try to approach God with your so-called speculative knowledge and fruitive activities, as people are trying to do. It is not possible. You may, by such activities, you can come to the platform of this sattva-guna, sattva-guna. But that is also guna. You remain saguna. You are not nirguna. But you require to be nirguna. That is bhakti. If you remain saguna, you may come to the platform of sattva-guna, the brahminical platform-satyam samah damah titiksa arjavam, jnanam vijnanam astikyam [Bg. 18.42]. That is better platform to understand. Sthitam sattve prasidati. You can understand, you can get light of the spiritual world, by sattva-guna. But you have to surpass the sattva-guna. That is called suddha-sattva, untinted, without any tinge of these rajo-guna and tamo-guna. In the material world you may be situated on the brahminical qualification, sattva-guna, but there is chance of being infected by the rajo-guna and tamo-guna. Therefore it is not suddha-sattva, pure sattva. So you have to come to the platform of pure sattva-guna. Sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam. That pure sattva, pure sattva-guna, mode of goodness, is called vasudeva, and Vasudeva he gives birth to Vasudeva, Krsna. So when you come to that platform, then you will be able to give birth to Vasudeva. That means you will meet Vasudeva. suddha-sattva. Sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam. This is the process.

So saguna, saguna Brahman, brahmanah sagunasya, here it is said. Brahmanah sagunasya ha etavan eva sankhyatah. The living entity is entrapped. This body is the combination of these twenty-five elements. So that is for the living entity, saguna Brahman. Saguna Brahman means living entity. But it is not for Krsna. And again, sanniveso maya proktah. So maya proktah means Bhagavan is speaking. Bhagavan is not saguna. Here Kapiladeva says, maya proktah: "I have described it." He knows everything. Maya proktah. We have to take knowledge from Bhagavan, not from any saguna Brahman. We have to take knowledge from nirguna Brahman. Nirguna Brahman is Krsna, Bhagavan, Kapiladeva. Maya proktah. Yah kalah panca-vimsakah. And now He gives another element, kala, because everything is going on under the influence of kala. The past, present, and future, the kala, is eternal. Time is eternal, but we are creating our past and present and future according to our existence. The past, present, future of an ant is not the past, present of an elephant. The past present of our is not the past present of Brahma. It is relative. This kala is working relatively. Therefore this is called relative world. So this prime factor of relativity is kala. That is the twenty-fifth element. And beyond that, there is the soul, there is the Supersoul, and above everything, Purusottama, the Supreme Person, Krsna.

So in this way, if we understand, then we become a student of Sankhya philosophy. That is being taught by Kapiladeva.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

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