Don't Try to Be Happy Here

Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.2.17
Vrndavana, September 20, 1975

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Prabhupada:

tais tany aghani puyante
tapo-dana-vratadibhih
nadharmajam tad-dhrdayam
tad apisanghri-sevaya
 [SB 6.2.17]

So yesterday we have explained that we are put into such position in this material world (pause) that we have to commit sinful activities. This is our position. Even if I do not want to do it. Just like a man accustomed to steal, he is dictated from within, "Don't steal." Otherwise why he goes at night to steal? He knows that "This is not good." He does not steal openly. Secretly, without any knowledge. Because he knows that "What I am going to do is not good." That's a fact. Therefore sometimes it is called black. So he is forced to do it.

It was questioned by Arjuna to Krsna that "How one man is forced to commit sinful activities." So Krsna replied, kama esa krodha esa rajoguna-samudbhavam. There are three modes of material nature: sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. So those who are in tamo-guna and rajo-guna, they are forced to commit sinful activities, forced. There is no alternative. Therefore we have to come. Just like we go to school, college for education. What is the purpose? That "We are ignorant. We are illiterate, uneducated. Therefore I must go to school to learn, to become enlightened." Similarly, from the lower animal status we are coming by evolution, and in the human form of life, especially in the civilized human form of life, the enlightenment is that one should come from this tamo-guna, rajo-guna to sattva-guna. That is required. Therefore the brahminical culture is so much adored in India to make one from the lower status of life to the higher status of life. And that is very easily done simply by devotional service.

That is stated here. Na adharmajam dhrdayam. Our heart is filled up with all dirty things, adharma. And it is very difficult to purify the heart, but it is possible, tad api. Even the hard-hearted, stone-hearted, rajo-guna, tamo-guna, can be melted, can be reformed. How? Isanghri-sevaya. Isa. Isa means the Supreme Lord, Krsna. Anghri means His lotus feet. Sevaya. This is possible. In the Bhagavad-gita also, Krsna says the same thing. Mam hi partha vyapasritya ye 'pi syuh papa-yonayah [Bg. 9.32]. Papa-yoni. Punya-yoni means according to the infection of the heart with different qualities of these material modes of nature. That is called papa-yoni. One whose heart is too much engrossed with tamo-guna, rajo-guna, they are lower grade, papa-yoni. And gradually one who is free from the tamo-guna, rajo-guna... Even sattva-guna. Of course, sattva-guna is taken -- the platform of goodness. That is the only hope in this material world, that one has to come by endeavor to the sattva-guna platform. Then the heart disease, kama... hrd-roga-kama(?). It is a heart disease. Kama means lusty desires simply to enjoy senses. This is called kama. Hrd-roga-kama aprnoti.

So the Krsna consciousness movement means to cure the heart disease full with lusty desires. This is Krsna consciousness. And the perfection comes when anyabhilasita-sunyam [Brs. 1.1.11] -- no more any material desire. That is possible. Yam labdhva caparam labham manyate nadhikam tatah. If you get something, that something, "I don't want anything more." Svamin krtartho 'smi varam na yace [Cc. Madhya 22.42], Dhruva Maharaja said. He went to the forest to undergo severe austerities so that he can see Narayana and beg some benefit, to get a greater kingdom than his father. He was insulted by his stepmother, so the boy, son of a ksatriya, he determined that "I shall have a better kingdom than my father." So he got it. By Krsna's grace he got it, that Dhruvaloka, the polestar. It is very big star. So he went for this purpose. Artharthi. Catur-vidha bhajante mam sukrtino arjuna. Artharthi. Arto artharthi. So he was in search after money, Dhruva Maharaja, and therefore at five years old he went to the forest. His mother advised that "Krsna can help you only." Others cannot help. So he was simple boy. He decided, "Where is Krsna?" "Now, my dear child, I know that He is found in the forest." So he went to the forest, and he very severely Narada Muni tried to persuade him, "No, no, you are simply a small child. Why you are so much infected with the insult given by your stepmother?" So he said, "No, I don't want your advice. If you can give me God, just talk of that. You don't talk of compromise. I am not going." This is determination. This is determination. So he, actually, within six months he saw Narayana. But when he saw Narayana, then his all material desires finished. He said, svamin krtartho 'smi varam na yace: [Cc. Madhya 22.42] "I came to ask You for some benefit, material benefit. Now, by seeing You I am so satisfied that I have no more any desire to ask for." This is the ultimate stage, no more desire. We may begin with desire, but perfection is that, when there is no more desire. That is the beginning of bhakti.

anyabhilasita-sunyam
jnana-karmady-anavrtam
anukulyena krsnanusilanam
bhaktir uttama
 [Brs. 1.1.11]

That is bhakti, no more desire.

So here, na adharmajam tad-dhrdayam. Adharmajam. So long our heart is compact with material desires, we have to take birth after birth to fulfill that desire. It is automatic. So how to become desireless? Not desireless but no material desires. There is desire to go back to home, back to Godhead. That is natural. To become a devotee, to desire like that, that is wanted. We cannot stop our desires. But desires have to be purified. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam tat-paratvena nirmalam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. So this is the process of bhakti. Therefore even one is infected with these lusty desires, kama-lobhadayas ca ye, rajo-guna, tamo-guna... Rajo-guna, and tamo-guna means lusty desires and greediness. Kama-lobha. So, so long we are influenced by the two material modes of nature, rajo-guna and tamo-guna, then we will be pushed for fulfilling our lusty desires and greediness. And that will help us to become implicated in sinful activities. The people are becoming implicated in sinful activities only for this kama-lobha. He is never satisfied, and his greediness increases and we create sinful life.

So there is prescription in the sastra that "If you are sinful, you do this prayascitta, atonement." Tapo-dana-vratadibhih. Tapo, tapasya, dana, and observing some vratas, vows, ritualistic ceremonies, recommended. But here the Visnudutas says that actually, by these processes, tapasya, dana... Na tyajyam karyam eva tat. Krsna also says that... What is that verse? I just forget. That tapasya, dana, vrata... Just like one has taken sannyasa. Sannyasa means he has given up all these obligatory ceremonies. But Krsna says that "Even if you have taken sannyasa, you cannot give up these processes." What is that? "Tapasya, dana, and vrata." It is pavanani manisinam. Even if you have become manisi, very exalted great sage, still, you should continue this tapasya. And tapasya means voluntarily accepting some miserable condition. That is called tapasya. Just like they used to perform austerity in winter season, to go deep into the water. When one tries to avoid water, tapasya means one goes You have seen many persons, they are standing within the water and chanting Gayatri mantra. This is tapasya. And in summer season they ignite fire all around and sit down.

So these things are not possible at the present moment in the Kali-yuga. But little tapasya required. Without tapasya you cannot be purified. That little tapasya we have prescribed, that "Rise early in the morning at half past three," but they are so downtrodden, they cannot do it. "Let me sleep five minutes more. I'll enjoy." You see? Such downtrodden. They were performing austerities, standing in the water in winter season, and we are recommending, "Please rise early in the morning at half past three. Be prepared for mangala-arati," it is very difficult job. Just see how much we are fallen. We cannot sacrifice, say, fifteen minutes or half an hour's sleep. We consider, "Sleeping is very good enjoyment." I have seen in the Western countries, they want to sleep so much. That is enjoyment. Up to twelve o'clock in daytime. There are many Indians also, they sleep up to twelve o'clock, and then they prepare for going to the office, big man. He goes to the office at four o'clock when the office is going to be closed. That is their enjoyment. "I have slept so much. That is my life's success. I have eaten so much. That is my enjoyment. I have enjoyed sex life so much. That is enjoyment." He does not know... The rascal does not know that he is becoming implicated for the next birth. If you are too much sleeping, then you become owl. You know? The whole day they can sleep, the owl. If you want to be naked, all right, you become a tree. Stand five thousand years naked. If you want sex, all right, become a hog or a monkey. Nature is prepared to give you facilities.

So purification means to stop this low-grade life. And low-grade life is there. Otherwise wherefrom they are coming? These cats and dogs and other lower animals, wherefrom they are coming? Karmana daiva-netrena jantur deha upapatti [SB 3.31.1]. We are creating the facility for the next body, karmana. Therefore it has to be purified. That is called tapah. Tapo divyam-putraka yena suddhyet [SB 5.5.1]. This is the... "My dear boys..." Rsabhadeva instructed His children, hundred sons, "My dear boys, just prepare yourself for tapasya." That is the whole Vedic civilization, tapasya. Tapo divyam. Tapasya for realizing God. This is the only business of the human life, not any other business. Any other business will not help you. Otherwise everyone would have been very rich man. Everyone is trying, whole day and night working. Does it mean that everyone is becoming Birla and like that? No. That is not possible. You can get only what is destined to you, not more than that. You cannot get more than that. Therefore sastra says, tasyaiva hetoh prayeteta kovido. Tasyaiva hetoh prayeteta kovido na labhyate yad bhramatam upary adhah [1.5.18]. We are, by the impelling of the material nature -- prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah [Bg. 3.27] -- we are wandering throughout the whole universe in different types of bodies, in different planets, but we are not getting released. Therefore our only business is to get released from this repetition of birth and death. Sastra... Tapo... Tasyaiva hetoh prayeteta kovido. You have become the inhabitants of the higher planets, and you have become an ant, a small insect. This is going on. But you haven't got that release. Now you have got sense; you are human being. Tapo divyam [SB 5.5.1]. Now you engage yourself in that tapasya. Yajna-dana-tapah-kriya na tyajyam karyam eva tat. Yajna, dana and tapasya. Krsna says, "These things are not to be given up." That is human civilization. Yajna-dana-tapah-kriya na tyajyam karyam eva tat: "It must be done." So if we do not do that, then you are not human being. We are not... We are losing the chance of becoming purified, and again implicated in the cycle of birth and death.

So these things can be very easily done, as it is said here, tad api isa anghri-sevaya, simply by dedicating yourself at the lotus feet of Isa, the supreme controller. Isa means controller. Jagadisa. God's another name is Jagadisa. He is the controller of the whole universe. So isanghri-sevaya. That is the only way. So that seva begins from tongue. Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau [Brs. 1.2.234]. You can begin isa-seva by the tongue, service. Chanting Hare Krsna, that is also by tongue, and eating prasadam. Very easy. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has given us this easy program. So don't deviate from this. Chant Hare Krsna and take prasadam. Make life simplified and be happy. That is Krsna consciousness movement.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

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"Krishna's Real Representative"

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.7.23
Vrndavana, September 20, 1976

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Prabhupada: What is that difficulty?

Hari-sauri: This was yesterday's verse, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: All right, just go on. What is that?

Devotee:

tvam adyah purusah saksad
isvarah prakrteh parah
mayam vyudasya cic-chaktya
kaivalye sthita atmani

"You are the original Personality of Godhead who expands Himself all over the creations and is transcendental to material energy. You have cast away the effects of the material energy by dint of Your spiritual potency. You are always situated in eternal bliss and transcendental knowledge."

Prabhupada:

tvam adyah purusah saksad
isvarah prakrteh parah
mayam vyudasya cic-chaktya
kaivalye sthita atmani

So, we have to know the Supreme Personality of Godhead through authority, not by speculation. Speculation is no use.

athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-
prasada-lesanugrhita eva hi
janati tattvam bhagavan-mahimno
na canya eko 'pi ciram vicinvan

The Supreme Personality of Godhead can be known by a person who has got a slight favor of the Lord upon him. This is the Vedic version. Nayam atma pravacanena labhyo na medhaya na bahuna srutena. Atma, the Supreme Absolute Truth, cannot be understood... Nayam atma na pravacanena labhyah... By becoming a great debater one can understand the Supreme -- that's not possible. Nayam atma pravacanena labhyo na bahuna srutena. Nor by a person who is very vastly learned or by a great scientist or philosopher, na medhaya -- in this way we cannot understand. But one who is surrendered, he can understand. Arjuna is surrendered. In every case he surrendered to Krsna. As soon as there is any problem... Problem or no problem, he surrendered. Not that "When there is problem I am surrendered, and when there is no problem I am independent." No. Always surrendered. That is Arjuna's position.

So we have to follow. People are searching after God. They do not know God. They are asking this question, "Can you show me God?" So, so many questions are there about God, but here is God, pointed out by Arjuna, a mahajana. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. Why should you not accept? That is our Krsna consciousness movement. "Why you are searching God. Here is God, as Arjuna says." Tvam adyah purusah: "You are the original person." Tvam adyah purusah. Purusa means enjoyer. God is not female. Sometimes they worship a female as God, like Durga, Kali, and so many others. But God is purusa. Everyone is prakrti. Prakrti means female. Everyone knows it. There are two things, prakrti and purusa. The purusa is the enjoyer, and prakrti is the enjoyed. Or, in other words, purusa is the predominator and prakrti is predominated. So we are prakrti. The Mayavada philosophy is that prakrti wants to become purusa. And that is not possible. Suppose a woman, if she dresses like a man, does it mean that she has become a man? No. Or a man dresses like a woman, does it mean that he has become woman? Simply by outward dress? No. Purusa, the only purusa is Krsna. That is very nicely explained in the Caitanya-caritamrta: ekale isvara krsna, ara saba bhrtya. Only Krsna is purusa. He's the enjoyer. All others, they are servants. This is the position. Never try to become the purusa or the master. That is very dangerous. Always remain prakrti. Prakrti means to be controlled or controlled, and purusa means the controller. So here is the supreme controller: tvam adyah purusah saksat. Not that "You were made by some means." Saksat, directly. Saksat. And isvara. Saksad isvarah. Not artificial isvara. Saksad isvarah.

So where is the difficulty to understand God, isvara, or the purusa? There is no difficulty. Krsna personally says that mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya [Bg. 7.7]. Aham adir hi devanam. Aham sarvasya prabhavah. So many things. Mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti te [Bg. 7.14]. Everything is explained saksat, directly. Where is the difficulty to find out God? They are searching after God, making research, all nonsense speculation. This is our Krsna consciousness movement, that "Why you are searching?" You say, "Can you show me God?" Why don't you see, "Here is God"? Why, just like the owl you have closed your eyes, not to see the sun? Sun is there. See. Open your eyes and see it. The whole world is going on that "There is no God" or "God is dead" or "Can you show me God?" And "I am God by meditation," "This way," "That way." This is going on. Whole world, especially at the present moment, it is a great disastrous condition, godless civilization. They won't accept the real God, and they'll create some artificial God and become God, "Everyone is God," like that. No.

Therefore if you want to be benefited, then you must take the shelter of mahajana, great personalities. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. If you are perplexed that "Who is mahajana? How can I find him?" that is also explained in the sastra. Mahajana, dvadasa-mahajana:

svayambhur naradah sambhuh
kumarah kapilo manuh
prahlado janako bhismo
balir vaiyasakir vayam
[SB 6.3.20]

So where is the difficulty? Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. You follow the path of mahajana -- Prahlada Maharaja, Janaka Maharaja, Bhisma. There are grhasthas, there are brahmacaris, sannyasi. Brahma, Lord Brahma is mahajana; he's grhastha. Svayambhu, Narada, he's brahmacari. Svayambhur naradah sambhuh [SB 6.3.20] -- Lord Siva, he's also grhastha. Prahlada Maharaja, he's also grhastha. It doesn't matter whether you are grhastha or sannyasi or brahmacari. You must become actual representative of Krsna. That is mahajana. And that is also not very difficult. How you can become representative of Krsna? That is explained by Caitanya Mahaprabhu:

yare dekha, tare kaha ‘krsna'-upadesa
amara ajnaya guru hana tara' ei desa
[Cc. Madhya 7.128]

If you simply speak what Krsna says, then you become His representative. Don't manufacture. Don't be over good at (indistinct) manufacturing. Simply to follow Krsna and His representatives, then you become mahajana. Otherwise you are a nonsense. Mudha. Na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah [Bg. 7.15]. That is the test. One should be very very careful to follow Caitanya Mahaprabhu's instruction. Caitanya Mahaprabhu never said that "I am directly servant of Krsna." No. Gopi-bhartuh pada-kamalayor dasa-dasa-dasa-dasanudasah: "Servant of the servant of the servant of the..." The more you become servant of the servant, you are perfect. And as soon as you declare independence, you are rascal. This is the process. We should always remain most obedient servant of my master.

yasya deve para bhaktir
yatha deve tatha gurau
tasyaite kathita hy arthah
prakasante mahatmanah
[SU 6.23]

Then it will reveal. The whole thing is revelation. It is not by experience, by scholarship. No: revelation. Ye yatha mam prapadyante. One who has surrendered proportionately, God reveals. Ye yatha mam prapadyante tams tathaiva bhajamy aham [Bg. 4.11].

So there is no difficulty to understand what is God. Here is Krsna, the Supreme Lord -- directly. I do not know why people are searching after God, why they do not know what is God. Just see. That means mudha. Although God is here, still, he'll not accept. That is mudha, naradhama. And why he's mudha? Because naradhama. He does not take the process. He wants to manufacture something. Don't do that. Here Arjuna is mahajana, he's Krsna's friend, he's always with Krsna, and Krsna recognizes him. Not that because one is always with Krsna, therefore he knows Krsna. No. That is not possible. Just like I have given this example many times, that I am sitting here, and the bug is also sitting here. That does not mean we are very confidential. No. Bug is different visions (business?), and my business different. And bug's business is biting. That kind of association will not help. Association means to develop love for the person. That is association.

dadati pratigrhnati
guhyam akhyati prcchati
bhunkte bhojayate caiva
sad-vidham priti-laksanam

So we have to become associate of Krsna, as Arjuna became. Always with Krsna -- eating with Krsna, sitting with Krsna, talking with Krsna, joking with Krsna, fighting with Krsna -- everything Krsna. That is wanted. Not a single moment. Therefore Krsna certifies, bhakto 'si priyo 'si me: "My dear Arjuna, you are very dear to Me." Naturally if Arjuna is always with Krsna, sitting with Krsna, talking with Krsna, consulting with Krsna, joking with Krsna, eating with Krsna, so why he should not be very dear? Krsna, does He remain with anyone unless he is very dear? So bhakto 'si priyo 'si me sakha ceti. So we have to become, we have to establish some relation with Krsna -- as servant, as a friend, as a son, as a father, mother, or like the gopis, madhurya-rasa, friend. That is also... Conjugal love. Krsna is ready to associate with you in any way you like. Somebody likes Krsna as friend, somebody likes Krsna as husband, somebody likes Krsna as paramour. So Krsna is ready. Somebody likes Krsna as son. So any way, Krsna is ready. We have got these five relations in this material world. There is no other relation. And there are other relationship also. Krsna also ready to accept... If you want Krsna as enemy, yes, Krsna is ready. He'll kill you. But that is also good for you. If you want to fight with Krsna, yes, Krsna is ready -- everything. Akhila-rasamrta-sindhu. He can associate with you in any rasa, humor, you like. Krsna's ready. Ready means that is natural. Because we are part and parcel of Krsna, so the part and parcel must remain with Krsna.

So you have to remain with Krsna in some relationship. Here our relationship is through this external energy, maya. The relationship is there. Although we have tried to give up our relationship with Krsna, but Krsna has not given up. Krsna is always with you. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. He is within your heart. Why? Just to give you association. Now we are rebelled. You want to do something independently. Krsna also has agreed, "All right. You do independently. But it is not possible for you to live independently. That is not possible. So I'll give you sanction for independent living." Just see how Krsna is friend. You cannot live independently. That is not possible. Because you are amsa. Amsa means part and parcel. Just like this finger. Finger is finger so long he's with the body; otherwise who cares his finger? Suppose a finger is cut and thrown in the street. Who cares for it? The finger is important so long it is with the body. Similarly, we are always with Krsna indirectly or directly. But here Arjuna sees saksat, directly. But we are forced to accept Krsna indirectly, maya. Arjuna is mayam vyudasya. He has no intervention by maya. And we have got intervention by maya. Therefore we cannot see Krsna. But Krsna is always there. Krsna is always there.

isvarah sarva-bhutanam
hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati
bhramayan sarva-bhutani
yantrarudhani mayaya
[Bg. 18.61]

This rascal, he wants to wander within this material world in different capacities. Sometime he's demigod, sometime he's dog, sometime he's tree, sometime he's fish, sometime he is president, sometime he's a nonsense. In this way, in different ways, he is suffering in this material world, and Krsna is with him, trying to get him back. And whenever there is opportunity, He's asking, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam: [Bg. 18.66] "You rascal, why you are suffering in this way? You give up all this nonsense business. You simply surrender to Me." That is Krsna's ambition, that "This rascal is suffering, so better give him good instruction."

Therefore Krsna's coming. Yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata [Bg. 4.7]. "These rascals have forgotten. All right, let Me go and convince them, try to bring them back." Therefore Krsna comes: tadatmanam srjamy aham. Paritranaya sadhunam. Those who are sadhu, devotees, they became immediately relieved by getting Krsna. And those who are rascals, they had to be killed. But that killing is also good for them. Just like father -- to some son he gives directly rasagulla, and to other son, slaps. But father is father, either slapping or giving rasagulla, he's father. Similarly, we should not be sorry when the father gives slaps, and we should not be overjubilant when father gives his rasagulla. Any condition. That is devotion. A devotee is never disturbed when the father gives slap or the master gives slap. Tat te 'nukampam su-samiksamano bhunjana evatma-krtam vipakam. So any way, Krsna is always ready to help me and to give me knowledge and to understand. Where is the difficulty? This is Krsna consciousness movement. There is not at all difficulty. Simply because we do not take advice of Krsna, we are suffering. This is the difficulty. This is the only difficulty. Where is the difficulty? No difficulty. Simply, if you simply think of Krsna, you become advanced. Man-mana bhava mad-bhaktah. Yoginam api sarvesam mad-gatenantar-atmana [Bg. 6.47]. There is no expenditure, no loss. The gain is great. Simply if you think of Krsna: man-mana bhava mad-bhaktah. Where is the difficulty?

But we are so rascal that we do not take advice of Krsna, we manufacture our own ways, the suffering goes on. Mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti. This is maya. He's thinking that he'll make his own plan and be happy. That will never be possible. The only plan you have to accept -- what is that? Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam [Bg. 18.66]. That is the only plan. You have to get yourself relieved from all other engagements. Simply engage yourself... Not immediately. First of all, you must ready: "Krsna, from this day, I am now ready. Whatever You'll say, I'll do." That's... Immediately you become liberated. Liberated. How liberated? Liberation is achieved after so many years tapasya? No. Immediately. As soon as you surrender to Krsna. How? Krsna says, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami. If we are sincerely surrendering to Krsna, immediately... Our, this material sufferings, why? Due to our sinful activities. Sinful activities mean anything you do without any purpose to serve to Krsna, that is sinful. That is sinful. Not that "In the material calculation this is very good work, the opening of hospital or this or that, very good work. And Deity worship and going to the temple is bogus." You may think like that. But that, your opening of hospital is sinful. That is going on nowadays. One becomes very great philanthropist, rejecting... They say, "What is the use of this temple worship?" The daridra-narayana-seva. Narayana has now become daridra. Formerly Narayana was husband of the goddess of fortune. And now he has become daridra. So serve this Narayana. This, they're manufacturing, concoction. This is not... That means sinful activities. Because he has manufactured something, that is sinful. Therefore Krsna says plainly that "You rascal, you give up any other engagement, even if you think it is very pious activity, very philanthropic. You give up." Sarva-dharman. Sarva means whatever you think pious and whatever you think impious, both of them should be given up. Because there are two kinds of activities: pious or impious. And sarva includes pious and impious.

So you have to give up everything. Simply you have to become ready. "My Lord, I am now fully surrendered. Whatever You ask me, I shall do it." Then you are liberated person. Iha yasya harer dasye. That is Rupa Gosvami's instruction. Anyone who has determined like this that "I shall simply serve Krsna. That's all." Iha yasya harer dasye karmana manasa gira: by work, by mind, by body, or by words. One has decided like that, nikhilasv apy avasthasu jivan-muktah sa ucyate: in any condition of life, he's liberated. Any condition of life. Because that iha yasya harer dasye. Simply he's thinking of how to serve Krsna, how to serve Krsna. He is liberated. So what is there wrong or what is there difficulty? If you simply think of man-manah, always think of Krsna: "What shall I do?" "Oh, yes. My representative is there. You take permission from him and do it." Where is the difficulty? There's no difficulty. But because we are mudha, naradhamas, we are manufacturing and suffering.

Thank you very much. (end)

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