Big Boon For A Bad Bunch

Big Boon For A Bad Bunch Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya 20.98-99 Washington, D.C., July 4, 1976 download  flash player   Take a test Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.) "Translation: Putting a straw in his mouth and bowing down, Sanatana Gosvami clasped the lotus feet of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and humbly spoke as follows. Sanatana Gosvami said, 'I was born in a low family, and my associates are all low-class men. I myself am fallen and am the lowest of men. Indeed, I have passed my whole life fallen in the well of sinful materialism.' " Prabhupada: tabe sanatana prabhura carane dhariya dainya vinati kare dante trna lana nica jati, nica-sangi, patita adhama kuvisaya-kupe padi' gonainu janama This is Bengali language. (aside:) Children must stop talking. Sanatana Gosvami approaching Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He was minister in the government of Nawab Hussain Shah, the then Pathan government in Bengal. So since he met Caitanya Mahaprabhu, he decided to retire from political life and join this movement. So there is a long history. When he wanted to resign, the Nawab become very angry because Nawab was depending on him for the ruling of the kingdom. He was free, but when Sanatana Gosvami proposed to retire, he became very much disturbed. A long history. So anyway, he escaped from the government service, and with great difficulty, he approached Caitanya Mahaprabhu when He was at Varanasi, Benares. So now, he's acarya, Sanatana Gosvami, he's acarya. Acaryam vijaniyan, mam vijaniyat. Acaryopasanam. This is the recommendation of Vedic knowledge. One should worship the acarya. So Sanatana Gosvami was made acarya. Haridasa Thakura was made acarya. Acarya means one who knows the meaning of sastra, personally behaves according to the sastra and teaches his disciple accordingly. He is called acarya. So Sanatana Gosvami is teaching us by his personal behavior how to approach guru. That he's teaching. Tabe sanatana prabhura carane dhariya. To approach guru the first business is surrender. That is everywhere in the Vedic literature. That is the process. tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet samit-panih srotriyam brahma-nistham  [MU 1.2.12] In the Bhagavad-gita also, Krsna says: tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya upadeksyanti te jnanam jnaninas tattva-darsinah  [Bg. 4.34] First of all guru means tattva-darsi, one who knows the Absolute Truth. He is guru. Absolute Truth is Krsna. Mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya [Bg. 7.7]. All previous acaryas, modern acaryas, they accept Krsna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. In India there are at the present moment... Within one thousand years, all the acaryas who advented -- Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya, Nimbarka, even Sankaracarya -- all accepted Krsna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So here Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, He's also Krsna. Sri-krsna-caitanya radha-krsna nahe anya. He has appeared as devotee. He appeared first of all as the Supreme Lord, Krsna, and He instructed Bhagavad-gita to the fallen souls and He asserted His Lordship, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. But puffed-up, so-called learned scholars and men of position, they declined, "Why should I surrender to Krsna?" Therefore Krsna Himself as devotee of Krsna appeared. That is Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Caitanya Mahaprabhu is Krsna Himself, but He's teaching how to approach Krsna. And His disciples, they are also teaching the same philosophy. There is no difference between Krsna's philosophy and Caitanya Mahaprabhu's philosophy. It is not that we can manufacture some philosophy. That is nonsense. Philosophy is one; religion is one. Everyone has to follow. There is no second alternative. That is the preaching about... Mam ekam, not that "Whatever you like, you can do." No, that is not. Mam ekam -- simply Krsna. There are some missionaries. They say that you can manufacture in your..., your own way of worship, and whatever you accept, that is all right. These bogus things are not accepted by the acaryas. Mam ekam, Krsna. Krsnas tu bhagavan svayam [SB 1.3.28]. If you want to understand what is Bhagavan, that is Krsna. Bhagavan... Religion means to understand Bhagavan. The other day we were consulting dictionary? Religion means the process by which we can understand the supreme controller. There is a supreme controller, as in every department, in every state, every affair, every business, every institution there is a controller. That you have got experience, practical. Without controller, nothing can be properly discharged. Controller is required. So the sastra says that controller or ruler is the same, and the Sanskrit synonym is isvara. Isvara means controller or ruler. So there are different kinds of controllers according to time, sphere. Just like in your country, the President is the controller. In other country somebody is controller. So there are many hundreds and thousands of planets within this universe, and each and every planet there is a controller. The sun planet, there is a controller. His name is Vivasvan. That we find. Similarly, the moon planet, there is a controller. Every planet, there is controller. And above all of them there is another supreme controller of the universe, the Brahma, and there are many millions of brahmandas, or universes. So there are controllers. But so far Krsna is concerned, He is described in the sastras, Brahma-samhita, isvarah paramah krsnah [Bs. 5.1]. There are controllers, but the supreme controller is Krsna. Isvarah paramah krsnah. Isvarah means controller. Sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah [Bs. 5.1]. His form... He has form. Bhagavan means with form. You see the form here, vigrahah. Vigrahah means form. But His form is different from our. He's sac-cid-ananda. His form is eternal. Our, this form is not eternal. We have to give it up. We have to accept another form according to our karma. Tatha dehantara-praptih [Bg. 2.13]. But Krsna hasn't got to do that. He is in His original form. He has got many forms, expansions, but His original form is Krsna with two hands and flutes. venum kvanantam aravinda-dalayataksam barhavatamsam asitambuda-sundarangam kandarpa-koti-kamaniya-visesa-sobham govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami  [Bs. 5.30] Krsna's symbolic representation is He is always playing on flute. And barhavatamsa: with a peacock feather. These are described in the Vedic literature. It is not that we worship Krsna as imaginary form of God. No. As the Mayavadis, they say that you can imagine any form of God, no, that is not the fact. God has His original form, real form sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah [Bs. 5.1]. Anadir adir govindah sarva-karana-karanam [Bs. 5.1]. So if we understand, if we want to understand Krsna, are interested... Because Krsna cannot be understood very easily. It is not possible. manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatayi siddhaye yatatam api siddhanam kascin mam vetti tattvatah  [Bg. 7.3] Krsna says, "Out of many millions of persons, one is interested how to become siddha." Siddha means liberated, one who is not entangled with this material atmosphere. He is called siddha. So out of many millions of people, one may be interested how to become free from this material entanglement. And yatatam api siddhanam [Bg. 7.3], and out of many such siddhas, one may understand Krsna. Kascid vetti mam tattvatah. So it is not so easy to understand Krsna, but when Krsna comes personally as a devotee and shows us the ways and means how to approach Krsna, then it becomes easier. That is Caitanya Mahaprabhu. So if we follow the methods, the method prescribed by Krsna is very easy, but still, because we misunderstand Krsna... Therefore, if we go through the mercy of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, then we can easily understand Krsna. That is recognized by Rupa Gosvami, the younger brother of Sanatana Gosvami. Two of them were ministers. So Rupa Gosvami has described, namo maha-vadanyaya krsna-prema-pradaya te krsnaya krsna-caitanya- namne gaura-tvise namah  [Cc. Madhya 19.53] He said, "Caitanya Mahaprabhu, You are Krsna. Now, this time, You have appeared as Krsna Caitanya in order to give everyone Krsna. Krsna made some condition, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66], but here now, as devotee of Krsna, You are distributing Krsna without any condition. Therefore maha-vadanyaya: You are the most munificent incarnation." So somehow or other, Sanatana Gosvami, he became attracted to Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He resigned his ministerial post, and he has come to surrender to Caitanya Mahaprabhu while he was at Benares. Therefore it is said, tabe sanatana prabhura carane dhariya. So when we approach guru, our first condition is that we must be humble and surrender. Pranipata. Prakrsta-rupena-nipata. Then seva, to serve the spiritual master; yasya prasadad, to gain his favor. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasado **. This is the process. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu... Sanatana Gosvami's teaching how to approach guru, so, very humbly... Dante trna lana. In India the system is that to... Symbolic representation of humbleness is to take one piece of grass in the mouth. Then it is to be understood that he is coming very submissively. Now this system is not current, but formerly it was. So Prabodhananda Sarasvati also said like that, dante nidhaya trnakam padayor nipatya krtva caham kaku-satam aham bravimi. He was a devotee of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and he also taught us how to preach Krsna consciousness, becoming very humble, humbler... Caitanya Mahaprabhu has also instructed us, trnad api sunicena taror api sahisnuna amanina manadena kirtaniyah sada harih  [Cc. Adi 17.31] This time, Kali-yuga, is very, very fallen. People are very, very much fallen. Mandah sumanda-matayo [SB 1.1.10]. Practically cent percent of the population at the present moment, they're manda. Manda. Manda means of no value, or very bad, manda, or very slow. There are several meanings of manda. So in this age all the people, they are manda. Mandah sumanda-matayo. And because they are generally very bad, everyone has got a process of spiritual realization. First of all they are not interested, manda. Our real value of life, human being, means spiritual understanding. This is... This human life is meant for spiritual understanding. Athato brahma jijnasa. Absolute Truth. That is the only business. But on account of being manda, we have invented so many other occupational duties. That is... According to... That is a fact, not according to Vaisnava philosophy, but that is a fact. We may improve the standard of living condition. So living condition, that is bodily concept of life. I am sitting in this comfortable simhasana. That's all. I can sit down also on the floor. It does not make much difference. According to time, circumstances... So life... So we are combination of spirit and matter. This body is matter, and the moving force which is moving this body, that is spirit soul. So we are manda. We are so dull that the highest learned man and the so-called scientist and philosopher, they cannot understand this distinction. They think this body is everything. But that is not the fact. Body is not everything. The moving power of the body is the spirit soul. We are repeatedly trying to convince people this simple truth, but they are so dull-headed they cannot understand. Yes. So they have been described as animals. The sastra, they say, yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke [SB 10.84.13]. One who is in this bodily concept... Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke sva-dhih kalatradisu bhauma ijya-dhih: "In my country, bhauma... I am born in America or I am born in India, so it is my country." How long you'll remain America? How long you'll remain India? They do not know. But they are mad after this conception of life, bodily conception of life. Bhauma ijya-dhih yat-tirtha-buddhih salile na karhicit. People in every community, religious community, there is tirtha. People want (indistinct) holy place. So they go, they take bath. Just like in India they go to Hardwar or Vrndavana or Prayag, take bath in the Ganges or Yamuna. Similarly, Christians, they go to take bath in the river Jordan. So everyone has got. Yat-tirtha-buddhih salile na tad janesv abhijnesu sa eva go-kharah [SB 10.84.13]. This kind of life is go-kharah. Go means cows, and kharah means ass. Without understanding the value of life, na tad-janesv abhijnesu, without associating with abhijnah, learned spiritual master, if he passes his life with this understanding, then he is no better than the cows and ass. This is the verdict. So therefore Sanatana Gosvami, he is very learned man in that time. Because it was Muhammadan time, he used to learn very nicely Arabic and Parsi, Persian language. Just like during British period we had to learn English, similarly, the state language was somewhere Arabic and somewhere Parsi. Sometimes, they are called mixed -- that is called Urdu. So he was learned scholar, and he was also born of very nice brahmana family, Sanatana Gosvami, sarasvata-brahmana. So born brahmana family, well-educated, minister, everything, but he presents himself, nica jati, nica-sangi, patita adhama, kuvisaya-kupe padi' gonainu janama! He has understood that the so-called, bodily conception that "I am rich man," "I am very learned man," "I am brahmana" or "I am American," these are useless understanding. One who understands like that, he is... Sanatana Gosvami -- he's a nica jati, the bodily conception of life nica jati. Nica jati, nica-sangi. Why the bodily concept of life? Because the association is bad. At the present moment we do not get any education or good association to understand our real identity. That is the difficulty. Therefore he says, nica sangi, patita adhama. Adhama means lowest of the mankind; patita means fallen. If one does not understand his real interest, he is called fallen. So what is our real interest? By evolutionary process, after going through so many forms of life, jalaja nava-laksani sthavara laksa-vimsati krmayo rudra-sankhyakah, in this way, eight million forms of life, and we have got this human form of life. So this life especially meant for athato brahma jijnasa. Simply to understand our spiritual identity, the Absolute Truth, that is the only business. But we are... We have got the intelligence more than the cats and dogs. They cannot inquire about the spiritual identity, and if we keep ourself in darkness without understanding our spiritual identity, then we are no better than the dogs and cats. Therefore he said, nica jati: "I have no information about the soul." Nica jati. Just like dogs. It is a class. So nica. Of course, in your country dog is very pet. Now we are learning also, India, how to keep a dog and become aristocratic. (laughter) So now there is big, big dog show in New Delhi. But actually in India, although dog was not neglected, in a neighborhood, if there is a dog, people will give him food but not allow to enter into the house. He'll be not allowed. A dog is also trained up. They'll come to a door and sit down and move his tail: "Give me some food." And people will give. But he's not allowed to enter, the dog or candalas are not allowed. So there is distinction, caste distinction, according to the spiritual advancement. The brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, these are higher class or lower class according to the spiritual understanding. But one who is elevated in spiritual understanding, he is brahmana. Brahma janatiti brahmanah. Brahmana does not mean simply... Of course, in this age brahmana means vipratve sutram eva hi. That is also predicted, that if you get one sutra, one thread, one paisa-worth, and get it on your body, then you become a brahmana. No, that is not. Brahmana is a qualification. satya samo damas titiksa ksantir arjavam jnanam vijnanam astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam  [Bg. 18.42] So these things are being lost; therefore in the Kali-yuga practically everyone is a sudra. Patita-adhama, adhama. Naradhamah. In the Bhagavad-gita also it is said, na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah [Bg. 7.15]. Because people at the present moment are very, very low grade, nica jati, nica-sangi, fallen and naradhamah... The same thing is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah. Those who are naradhamah, lowest of the mankind and very, very sinful, duskrtina, mudhah, and rascal, they do not surrender to Krsna. So to surrender to Krsna requires little qualification, and that qualification Sanatana Gosvami wanted. Therefore he has approached Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. We can follow his footsteps. He is also... He is an acarya, but it is essential, essential. Don't be assured that you are very highly elevated person. Without Krsna consciousness, everyone -- this is a challenge -- everyone is low born. Everyone is nica, badly associated, fallen, and the lowest of the mankind because he's missing the chance of understanding Krsna in the human form life, and nobody knows what he's going to be, next life. So it it a very risky civilization without any understanding of Krsna. Be careful. Those who have taken to Krsna consciousness, execute the Krsna consciousness business very cautiously so that we may not fall down. There is risk of fall down, but if we stick to Krsna's lotus feet -- mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti -- then there is no fear. Thank you very much. (end)   >>> Ref. 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Crime, Why and What to Do

Crime, Why and What to Do

Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.20
Chicago, July 4, 1975

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Nitai: Translation. "In this connection, the learned scholars and saintly persons give as an example the description of one very old historical incident, wherein a discussion takes place between the order-carriers of Lord Visnu and the order-carriers of Yamaraja. Please try and understand it as I describe it to you."

Prabhupada:

atra codaharantimam
itihasam puratanam
dutanam visnu-yamayoh
samvadas tam nibodha me
 [SB 6.1.20]

So here is, one example is given, itihasa. Itihasa means history. The Vedic system of itihasa, it is not the modern history. Modern... Itihasa means some incidence which took place long, long ago, and such incidence is very beneficial to hear so that we can follow. That is called itihasa. It is not chronological record of all incidences. Only important things. Puratanam. Puratanam means old and important. So Sukadeva Gosvami is explaining to Pariksit Maharaja how important is Krsna consciousness. Now he is giving one incidence of history -- example is better than precept -- how Ajamila was saved simply by chanting once..., not once, many times, Narayana. That is the itihasam puratanam. In the Vedic literatures there are itihasas, or histories. Just like Mahabharata. Mahabharata is the history. Bharata means India, and Maha means greater. Greater India. Just like modern age they use "Greater Britain," "Greater this," so many, same thing. Mahabharata means "Greater..." Maha means great, and Bharata means India. "The history of Greater India." Although India is very small now in comparison to... Although it is called subcontinent, still, in comparison to your America or Africa, it is very small. But formerly it was not so small. Greater India means India and outside also. And so far we collect records from the Mahabharata, part of Europe, also India. Up to Greek and Rome. Therefore it is called Mahabharata. And when there was the Battle of Kuruksetra, all kings and rulers from different parts of the world, they joined either this party or that party. The Kaurava, the dynasty of the Kurus, they were ruling all over the world. The capital was Hastinapura, which is now known as New Delhi. It is very old. And the emperor, up to Maharaja Pariksit, they were ruling all over the world. There was one flag, not many flags. Therefore it is called Mahabharata.

 

So Mahabharata, the Battle of Kuruksetra was executed by two section of brothers of the same family. It was the one empire, one king, but Dhrtarastra and his younger brother... They were two brothers. So Dhrtarastra being blind, he was not qualified to occupy the throne, so his younger brother, Pandu, he was given the throne. And Pandu died untimely, keeping his children, these five brothers, Pandavas. Because they were son of Pandu, they were known as Pandavas. So Pandu also belonged to the Kuru family, and Dhrtarastra's son also belonged to the Kuru family. Actually they are Kauravas. But when there was fight between the two brothers' son, one party was known as Kaurava, and the other party was known as Pandava. Therefore Dhrtarastra says in the Bhagavad-gita beginning, mamakah pandavas caiva [Bg. 1.1]. Mamakah means "my sons," and... Because both of them are Kurus, now they are divided, mamakah, "my sons," and Pandavas, "the Pandu's sons." Kim akurvata sanjaya [Bg. 1.1].

And this Kuruksetra is dharma-ksetra. Not because the fight was there and Krsna was on the battlefield, therefore it is called dharma-ksetra. Sometimes it is interpreted like that. But actually Kuruksetra was dharma-ksetra since very, very long time. In the Vedas it is stated, kuru-ksetre dharmam acaret: "If one wants to execute ritualistic ceremony, he should go to Kuruksetra." And it is the system still now in India, if there is some disagreement or quarrel between two parties, so still they would go to the temple -- temple is dharma-ksetra -- so that one may not dare to speak lie in front of the Deity. This was still going on. Even one is very low in mentality, still, if he is challenged that "You are talking this false. Now speak before the Deity," he will hesitate, "No." This is India still. You cannot speak lies before the Deity. That is offense. Don't consider that Deity is a marble statue. No. Svayam bhagavan. Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu. As soon as He saw Jagannatha Deity, He immediately fainted. "Oh, here is My Lord." Not like us: "Oh, here is some statue." No. It is the question of appreciation. So you appreciate or not appreciate, the Deity is the Supreme Personality of Godhead personally. We should always remember. So we shall be very careful before the Deity, not to commit offense. In serving Him, in offering Him prasadam, in dressing Him, we should always think, "Here is personally Krsna." He is personally, but due to our lack of knowledge, we cannot understand it.

So everything in the sastra we should follow. This is called brahminical culture. This Krsna consciousness movement means brahminical culture -- the cultural exhibition of the first-class men, first-class men. The brahmana is to be understood as the first-class man within the human society. Therefore Krsna says, catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [Bg. 4.13]. Itihasa, history, history means to understand the activities of the first-class man. That is history. They pick up the most important incidences. Therefore the example is given here that udaharanti imam itihasam puratanam. Because it is a first-class incidence... Otherwise, if you record the history of the whole period, then where..., who will read that, and who will appreciate that, and where you will keep that? Daily so many things are happening. Therefore, according to Vedic system, the only important incidences are recorded in the history. Therefore it is called Purana. Purana means old history. Puratanam. Puratanam means very, very old. That are recorded. So this Srimad-Bhagavatam is the collection of very old history, historical incidence. Itihasa purananam saram saram samuddhrtya(?). Saram means essence. Not that all nonsense records have to be taken. No. Saram saram, only the important, essence, that are to be recorded. This is called Indian history. Mahabharata... Maha means Greater India. Greater India, there were so many incidences were there, but the most important incidence, the Battle of Kuruksetra, is there. Not that all the battles should be recorded.

So long the human history is there, there must be war. You cannot avoid it. Because it is material world, disagreement, misunderstanding must be there. You cannot avoid it. Because everyone is not of the same standard. That is not possible. Somebody is in the lower standard, somebody is in the middle standard, and somebody in the highest standard. That is division: goodness, passion, and ignorance. You cannot avoid it. So out of these three qualities, goodness, passion and ignorance, the ignorance and passion are base quality, and goodness is first-class quality. So the human life means we are born either in the base qualities... Nobody is born in the first-class quality. One who is born in this material world... May be somebody has taken his birth in the mode of goodness, but very rare. But maybe. Mostly they are born in the base qualities, ignorance and passion. But the sastras are there. Anyone can be raised to the first-class quality by training. That is human civilization.

janmana jayate sudrah
samskarad bhaved divjah
veda-pathad bhaved vipro
brahma janatiti brahmanah

This is the process. When you take your birth, that birth is not significant -- a sudra, fourth-class man. Everyone is born fourth-class man. So if you keep them fourth class and degrade them into fifth class, sixth class, then how there will be peace? How there will be peace? Therefore in your country, in America, they are now perplexed, "Crime, Why and What to Do?" Because you kept them fourth class, and they are going down to be fifth class, sixth class, how you can expect peace? It is not possible. If you do not elevate them... He is already born sudra, janmana jayate sudrah. Now you have to reform him. Samskarat. Samskara means reforming. You are born sudra. You are inclined to do something, so many things -- intoxication, illicit sex and drinking and gambling and meat-eating. These are all sudra qualities or less than that. Sudras also, they abide by the Vedic orders. Sudras also do not do whimsically whatever he likes. Sudras, they are taken among the, in the Vedic society... Because sudras also, they are last class, fourth class, they are eager to follow the orders or the orderly things as given by the brahmanas. Therefore sudras, up to sudras, accepted as bona fide classification. And below the sudras, they are called candalas, candalas, fifth grade. They are also mentioned, kirata-hunandhra-pulinda-pulkasah. Everything is analyzed.

So human civilization should be to raise the fourth-class man to the first-class man. That is human civilization. But there is no idea who is first-class man. Everyone is a drunkard, everyone is illicit sex hunter, and everyone is gambler, and everyone is meat-eater. Where is first-class man? There is no first-class man. All fourth-class man. And they are being taught simply how to manufacture big, big skyscraper, and every year, new model of car. Is that civilization? That is not civilization. You may be advanced in technology. So technology means technician. Suppose a man knows how to work in electricity, in so many things. Does it mean he is a learned man? No. Learned, first-class man, that is given in the Bhagavad-gita: samo damah satyam sucis titiksa arjavam jnanam, vijnanam astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam [Bg. 18.42]. These are the first class. There is nothing mentioned that "electrician" or a "motor mechanics" and a... (laughter) So you are misled. Therefore you are facing this crisis, that "Crimes, and Why and What to Do?" So unless you take to Krsna consciousness, how to create first-class man, you are doomed. You must know this. Therefore, those who have taken to Krsna consciousness, it is my request that you help your countrymen how to become... At least, there must be a section of men first-class so that people will see. They are appreciating. I know that. When I was going from Los Angeles to Hawaii, one priest in plain dress came to see me. He came to..., "Oh, Swamiji, can I speak with you?" "Yes, come here." So his first question was that "How your disciples look so bright?" They are appreciating that "Here is a first-class man." So I replied, "The process is so nice. Face is the index of mind. If you become purified within, then your faces will be bright. If you dirty within his heart, how you can be brightened? No, that is not possible. Face is the index of mind."

So this Hare Krsna mantra means to purify inside. Purify inside. Ceto-darpana-marjanam bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam [Cc. Antya 20.12]. So, of course, we are trying our best. Now, you American boys and girls, try to understand more and more and help your countrymen how to become first-class men. That I have requested every time, that from material point of view, you are already first class because you are not poverty-stricken. You have got enough everything. But in spite of materially first class, bigger or stronger than other nations, because there is no training spiritual, therefore there is crime. Therefore there is crime. And it is very difficult to solve. So this is the problem. I am talking since yesterday when as soon as I saw the Times magazine and the heading, "Crime: Why and What to Do?" Yes, this is a problem. It is a problem. But the solution is here, Krsna consciousness. Solution is here. And it is very easy to become first-class men. You know by practical experience: simply by chanting Hare Krsna mantra. That's all. It is not difficult. Anyone, even a child can do it. So increase this chanting of Hare Krsna mantra and give them nice prasadam.

So one Ajamila was delivered by chanting Narayana's name, you can deliver many millions of Ajamila. The process is the same. The process has not changed. Therefore he is quoting that itihasam atra codaharanti imam itihasam puratanam. It is spiritual. It is not that now the mode has changed. No. What was potent millions of years ago, that is potent still. That is spiritual. It does not change. Therefore it is said, itihasam puratanam. Although it is very old, but the effect is the same, effect is the same. In the old times people used to eat and get satisfaction; the same satisfaction is now also. You eat; you feel satisfaction. Eating, sleeping, mating and defending -- this is the material necessities. So the such necessities were in the old, millions of years ago, and those necessities are still there. It is no change actually. So this is the process how to... They are now thinking, "Why there is crime, and why, what is the remedy?" They are think in the material way. They are thinking that "We have got enough everything. Why there should be crime?" But they do not know that unless you make first-class men by training, the fourth-class man will degrade more and more. Just like a child, if you don't send him to school to get education, he will be street boy and degrade more and more. So this is the problem. So how to train first-class man, that method is here, Krsna consciousness movement. And take it seriously, and if you actually love your countrymen, raise them to the standard of first-class man.

Thank you very much. [break] Not in this way. This is not the process. The process is you must be free. Don't manufacture something. That is the way of dancing. You have seen all the Panca-tattva. They are dancing like this. So you should follow them. Hare Krsna. (end)

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.20 -- Chicago, July 4, 1975

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