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73/07/14 London, Bhagavad-gita 1.13-14

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Pradyumna (leads chanting, etc.):

tatah sankhas ca bheryas ca
panavanaka-gomukhah
sahasaivabhyahanyanta
sa sabdas tumulo 'bhavat
 [Bg. 1.13]

Translation: "After that, the conchshells, bugles, trumpets, drums and horns were all of a sudden sounded, and the combined sound was tumultuous."

Prabhupada: So there are mention of various types of musical instruments. Those instruments are no longer in use. But different types of bugles, drums, kettledrums, as they use in modern days. So the same principle. By musical instruments, the soldiers are kept alive so they can fight nicely. Sa sabdas tumulo 'bhavat: "When simultaneously all the instruments were sounded, it become tumultuous." Next verse. Tatah svetair hayair yukte mahati syandane sthitau. Read it.

Pradyumna (leads chanting, etc.):

tatah svetair hayair yukte
mahati syandane sthitau
madhavah pandavas caiva
divyau sankhau pradadhmatuh
 [Bg. 1.14]

Translation: "On the other side, both Lord Krsna and Arjuna, stationed on a great chariot drawn by white horses, sounded their transcendental conchshells."

Prabhupada: So you have seen the picture. Krsna is driving four white horses. (reads from purport:) "In contrast with the conchshell blown by Bhismadeva, the conchshells in the hands of Krsna and Arjuna are described as transcendental." Krsna is transcendental. Narayanah paro 'vyaktat. Krsna is not of this material world. Krsna's body, Krsna's activities, everything of Krsna, they are transcendental. They are not of this material world. Divyam. In the catuh-sloki Bhagavatam it is said when Krsna was instructing Brahma, aham evasam evagre: [SB 2.9.33/34/35/36] "Before this material creation, I was existing." In the Vedas also, it is said, eko narayana asit. "Before creation, only Narayana was there."

So Krsna's position is always transcendental. He is not any creation of this material world. But because he comes just like a human being and acts also just like human being, those who are less intelligent, avajananti, they think of Krsna as ordinary human being. Avajananti mam mudhah [Bg. 9.11]. Mudhah. Mudhah means asses. Or less intelligent class of men. They cannot understand Krsna's position. Krsna's position is always transcendental.

When Arjuna inquired from Him about His instruction to sun-god, Krsna said, imam vivasvate yogam proktavan aham avyayam [Bg. 4.1]. This bhakti-yogam of as mentioned in the Bhagavad-gita... Bhagavad-gita is bhakti-yogam, to understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So this literature is also transcendental. Bhakti is also transcendental. Bhakti is not any activities of this material world. Janma karma me divyam. So bhakti is activity in relationship with Krsna. Therefore it is not material. Sa gunan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate, mam ca yo 'vyabhicarena bhakti-yogena sevate [Bg. 14.26]. Bhakti-yoga is transcendental. And because Krsna is transcendental, you cannot understand Krsna by any material method. Therefore Krsna says, bhaktya mam abhijanati [Bg. 18.55]. The method also is transcendental, not of this material world. So if we can understand simply these facts, that Krsna is transcendental, Krsna's name is transcendental, Krsna's form is transcendental, sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah. Isvarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah [Bs. 5.1]. Krsna's body is sac-cid-ananda, not body like this. This body is asat, acit and nirananda, just the opposite. This material body is asat. Asat means temporary. It will not exist. But Krsna's body is not like that. Krsna's body is eternal. That is cit. Sat-cit. Full of knowledge.

So less intelligent class of men, they cannot understand Krsna. Therefore sastra says, atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih [Brs. 1.2.234]. These indriya, these material senses, cannot speculate to understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is not possible. Srama eva hi kevalam. That is simply laboring, wasting time. Krsna should be understood as Krsna says. He can explain Himself. Nobody can explain. Because our senses are imperfect. We are deficient by four kinds of faults. We commit mistake; we are illusioned; with imperfect senses, we try to speak transcendental knowledge; therefore cheating. With imper... They will say, "Probably," "Maybe." This is the so-called scientists' language. That means imperfect knowledge. Still, they want to teach. This is cheating. Knowledge must be perfect. Then you can teach others.

So our process is to receive the perfect knowledge from the perfect source and distribute it. We don't manufacture knowledge. Therefore we are presenting Bhagavad-gita as it is, as it is. The Bhagavad-gita is already perfect. Why shall I interpret with my imperfect senses? This is cheating. But people want to to cheated. Vancita-vancaka-sampradaya. The whole world is full of cheaters and cheated. Because we want to be cheated, there are so many cheaters. They don't want real thing. Here is the real thing, Bhagavad-gita, the Supreme Personality of Godhead speaking personally about Himself. Why should we interpret? Does it mean that the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the supreme authority, left something unexplained to be interpreted later on by some rascals? No. But the rascals dare; they interpret. That is cheating. That is another fault. There are 640-45 editions of Bhagavad-gita. Simply cheating. Amongst them, there are big, big scholars. Not scholars. All rascals, but they cheat. They pose themselves as scholars and people want to be cheated, so they take their words. So they cannot understand Krsna. Cheated. They take the shelter of the cheaters. Therefore they are cheated.

So the maya is very strong. Maya always dictates so that we may be cheated: "Why you are taking Krsna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead? Don't take. He is ordinary man. You can be also equal with Krsna. You also become God. You become also incarnation." This is going on. And people flock there because they want to be cheated. What Krsna says, they will not accept it. Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam: [Bg. 18.66] "Only take to Krsna consciousness." Sarva-dharman. Because any dharma which is not approved by the Supreme Lord Krsna, that is not dharma. Dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam [SB 6.3.19]. A human being or a demigod or very exalted person cannot manufacture dharma. That is not possible. Real dharma is given by the Supreme Personality of Godhead Krsna, and that real dharma is stated in the Bhagavad-gita: sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. "Just surrender unto me." This is real dharma. Surrender to Krsna and follow His instruction; your life will be perfect. Because you follow the perfect instruction, therefore you are also perfect. Simple process. To become perfect, we have to follow the perfect instruction.

So in the Bhagavad-gita there is perfect instruction. And if we take it as it is and follow it, then we become perfect. To become perfect is not very difficult job. But because we don't want to become perfect, because we want to be cheated, we do not become perfect. This is the difficulty. So we should know from the very beginning that Krsna is transcendental. And all His activities, they are all transcendental. Although Krsna appears just like ordinary human being... He does not appear like ordinary human being because Krsna, when He was three months old only, He killed the Putana raksasi. A three month's old child cannot kill such giant demon. It is not possible. Krsna, when He was six or seven years old, He lifted the Govardhana Hill. So what is the difficulty for Krsna? If Krsna can float big, big gigantic planets in the air just like cotton swab floating, so is it very difficult for Krsna to lift a mountain with His hand, with His finger? That is not difficult for Krsna. But those who want to be cheated, when Krsna shows His transcendental strength, they don't believe it, another cheating. They, they'll admit, "Oh, these are... What is called?

Devotee: Mythology.

Prabhupada: Mythology. As if Vyasadeva wrote this Srimad-Bhagavatam to put before these rascals some mythology, some imaginary things. Just see how they want to be cheated. Such an exalted personality like Vyasadeva, who has given us the Vedic literature, he presented something which is imaginary. What business He has got? Therefore sometimes these cheated people, they deny to accept that Bhagavata is written by Sri Vyasadeva. But those who are actually acaryas, those who can guide us, like Sankaracarya, Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya, big, big..., Caitanya Mahaprabhu, they do not say like this, that "It is mythology. It is imaginary." They accept as it is. So we have to follow these mahajana. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah dharmasya tattvam nihito guhayam [Cc. Madhya 17.186]. We have to follow great personalities, acaryas. acaryavan puruso veda. One who has got, one who has taken shelter of acarya, bona fide spiritual master, he knows. Acaryavan puruso veda. Because he is receiving the right knowledge from the right source, acarya... Evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayo viduh [Bg. 4.2]. Acarya means by disciplic succession. As Krsna says, disciplic succession, all the acaryas will say the same thing. They will not change, they will not interpret. They can explain. But the original fact is not distorted. That is acarya. Acarya will never say that "Krsna is material. Krsna... There was no such thing as Krsna. There was no such battle, Battle of Kuruksetra. These are all imaginary." So if we don't want to be cheated, then we should take Krsna as He is presenting Himself and as it is confirmed by the acaryas. Then our knowledge is perfect. So here it is said,

tatah svetair hayair yukte
mahati syandane sthitau
madhavah pandavas caiva
divyau sankhau pradadhmatuh

Krsna and His devotee Arjuna, they are on the same platform. Therefore Madhava and Pandava. They blew Their transcendental conchshells. This is not ordinary. (reads from purport:) "The sounding of the transcendental conchshells indicated that there was no hope of victory for the other side." This is the sounding. Divyau. They are also sounding their conchshell, even Bhisma, but that cannot be compared with the conchshells of Madhava and Pandava. Arjuna, associates, they are also equally powerful. Nobody can be associates of Krsna without being very, very much advanced. Just like fire can mix with fire, similarly water can mix with water; similarly, unless one is transcendentally advanced, he cannot be associate of Krsna. Srila Narottama dasa Thakura sings, gaurangera sangi-gane, nitya-siddha kori mane, se jay brajendra-suta-pas, Gaurangera sangi-gane.

 

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Krsna, and His associates, sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu-nityananda, sri-advaita gadadhara srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda

[I offer my obeisances to Sri Krsna Caitanya, Prabhu Nityananda, Sri Advaita, Gadadhara, Srivasa and all others in the line of devotion.]

All the devotees. So Narottama dasa Thakura says, "So all these associates of Caitanya Mahaprabhu should be known -- they are also of the same category." Gaurangera sangi-gane, nitya-siddha kori mane. This word nitya-siddha is significant. Nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha. There are two kinds of living entities. Nitya-baddha means ever-conditioned. Ever-conditioned means those who are in this material world, they do not know when they came in touch with this material world. Neither they do know when they will be liberated. They are called nitya-baddha, ever-conditioned. And similarly, there are nitya-siddhas. Nitya-siddhas means they never come in contact with this material world, and even they come here for some business, they do not forget their position. That is nitya-siddha. Try to understand. There are two kinds of living entities: nitya-siddha, nitya-baddha. Nitya-baddhas are within this material world. Beginning from Brahma down to a small ant, insignificant ant, they are all nitya-baddhas. Anyone who is in this material world -- nitya-baddha. And nitya-siddhas, they belong to the spiritual world. They never come in contact with this material world, and even they come for some business under the order of the Supreme Lord, they do not touch these material qualities They remain always transcendental. As Krsna remains always transcendental, even though He is in this material world, similarly, Krsna's nitya-siddha associates, they are also transcendental. They never touch this material world.

So try to understand the position of Krsna. Krsna is narayanah paro 'vyaktat, transcendental, parah avyaktat. That is purusottama-yoga in the Bhagavad-gita. Krsna has said, "Anyone who has understood Me, ajam avyayam, ajam -- I never take birth in this material world, neither I am deteriorated by material contact -- he knows me perfectly." That is called purusottama. Purusa uttama. Uttama. Uttama means "not of this material world." Ut. Ut means above, and tama means this darkness. So ut-tama means "above this darkness." So uttama purusa. Purusa uttama. Purusa. Purusa means enjoyer. Prakrti means enjoyed. So actually, we are not purusa; we are prakrti. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakrtim param, jiva-bhutam maha-baho yayedam dharyate jagat [Bg. 7.5]. Apareyam, these material elements, bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh, earth, water, fire, air, sky, mind, intelligence, bhinna me prakrtir astadha, these are separated energies, material energies of Krsna. They are also prakrti. As this material world is prakrti, similarly, there is another prakrti, Krsna gives information. Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakrtim param. But that is para-prakrti. So we are not purusa; we are prakrtis. Although by materially dressed, we appear to be purusa, actually, we are not purusa. Just like if you dress one woman like a man, that does mean she has become man. She is woman. Similarly, we are purusa in the sense that we are trying to imitate the supreme purusa, Purusottama. Krsna is the Supreme enjoyer. We are trying to become imitation Krsna. Just like so many rascals, they declare that "God, I am God." That is the last snare, Mayavada. First of all we try to become enjoyer like the head of the family man or a minister or this and that, so many. Everyone is trying to become head, enjoyer. And at last, being baffled in every respect, he wants to become God. This is the last snare of maya. Nobody can become God. He is Purusottama and we are prakrtis. Artificially, how we can become enjoyer? Prakrti means enjoyed. Enjoyer and... Predominator and the predominated.

So jiva-bhuta, we jivas, we are all prakrti. Purusa is only Krsna. All living entities... Visnu-tattva is purusa-tattva, and we are sakti-tattva, sakti, energy, marginal energy of Krsna. So energy is prakrti. The prakrti is not purusa. So Mayavada philosophy is wrong. They pose them as so 'ham. So 'ham "I am the same." How you can be same? In the sastra it is said that "You living entity, you are prakrti." How you can become same, you purusa. This is mistake. How prakrti, how a woman can become man? Artificially one can become. Here also so-called woman, they are also purusa. They are thinking purusa. Purusa means enjoyer. Here woman is also thinking to enjoy, and the so-called man is also thinking to enjoy. Everyone. Nobody wants to serve. Everyone wants to be served. Purusa attitude. Everyone wants to be served. Nobody wants to serve. This is the material conception of life.
So when we agree to serve, not to be served, that is liberated person. When we agree to serve only, not to be served. Not to accept service from others, but to serve others -- that is real liberation. But here the material disease is that everyone is making plan "How others will serve me." This is called maya. This is called maya. Maya means that artificially we want to be served. That is not possible. When we agree to serve... As Caitanya Mahaprabhu has given us the path of liberation, jivera svarupa hoy nitya-krsna-dasa, this is our position. We are eternal servant of Krsna.

So when we engage ourself in the service of Krsna... The whole Bhagavad-gita is spoken on this basis. Arjuna was artificially declining to serve Krsna. Krsna wanted him to fight, and Arjuna was putting so many reasons, "How he could fight and kill the other side who are his kinsmen, who are nephews, who are brothers, grandfather?" This argument were being put. So that means he refused to serve Krsna. That is material condition. He was thinking in his own terms. He wanted to enjoy the family members, the so-called nephews, brothers, that "If they are killed, then what is the use of my, this kingdom?" [break] ...but people thinks that I get kingdom I enjoy myself. That is condition. But a liberated soul will take the kingdom, but it will be used for Krsna's service. That is liberated, soul.

In this way we should try to understand, Krsna, Krsna's name, Krsna's fame, Krsna's associates, Krsna's activities, all divyam, transcendental. They are not material. Therefore it is mentioned here, divyau sankhau pradadhmatuh. Divyau sankhau. The sankha used by Krsna and Arjuna, they are not ordinary sankha. Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)

 

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Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.30
Philadelphia, July 14, 1975

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Nitai: "My dear King, the order carriers of Visnu, upon hearing the chanting of the holy name of their master, Narayana, being offenselessly chanted by Ajamila, who was in great anxiety at the time of his death, immediately arrived on the scene."

Prabhupada:

nisamya mriyamanasya
mukhato hari-kirtanam
bhartur nama maharaja
parsadah sahasapatan
 [SB 6.1.30]

So he was calling his son, Narayana. So the parsadah, visnu-parsadah-parsadah means associates or attendants -- they immediately came. Just like in your city, the police is wandering in the car, and if somebody calls for police, immediately he is present, similarly, the attendants of Lord Visnu, they are also wandering throughout the universe and searching out somebody who is engaged in chanting the holy name of the Lord. So if you chant holy name of the Lord, they are very much pleased and they immediately come. That happened to Ajamila. He did not mean Narayana. Maybe or may not be, but he was calling his son. But the attendants of Hari, or the order carriers, they took notice of the chanting only. That's all. They did not care to know by "Narayana," Ajamila, what he was meaning. No. Because they heard bhartur nama, their master's name, they immediately appeared. This is clear.

So anyone who is chanting the holy name of the Lord, he is taken care of immediately by the attendants of the Supreme Lord, especially at the time of death, because that is the last moment. The account is taken at the last moment. If you practice Hare Krsna, naturally at the last moment you will be inclined to chant Hare Krsna. Yam yam vapi smaran bhavam tyajaty ante kalevaram [Bg. 8.6]. It is so nice. If we practice in this life chanting Hare Krsna mantra, then gradually my core of heart will be cleansed and everything will be manifest: my position, my duty, what is God. Everything will be manifest. It is so nice. Ceto-darpana-marjanam [Cc. Antya 20.12]. Because we are filled up with so many rubbish dirty things, we cannot understand the science of God. But if you be practiced to chant Hare Krsna maha-mantra, then your heart will be cleansed and you will see things as they are. Ceto-darpana-marjanam. And as soon as we are able to see things as they are, then our material bondage is over. Because first of all I will see... People are making research work about the bodily cells, how they are working, and so many things, simply on the body. But as soon as you become cleansed of your heart, then immediately you understand, "I am not this body, so what is the use of studying the cells and atoms and this and that? I am not this body." Immediately. "Actually, I am not this body. I am simply wasting my time in studying." The same thing, example, that I am in the car, I am studying the machine only. I forgot my destination, where I have to go. I am busy with studying the car. What is the use? You must know. You have got a good car. You must know where is the destination, where you have to go. That is your business. The business... Of course, it is secondary. If you want to know what is the car, that is secondary; that is not your main business. The main business is how to utilize the car and go to my destination. That is intelligence.

So we are fallen in this material condition in different forms. So long we are in this bodily concept, "I am this car," that is ignorance. I am not this car, but I have to utilize this car for going to my destination. That is wanted. So I am not this body. I am spirit soul. My destination is how to go to the spiritual world, how to meet the supreme spirit, God, and live with Him in His association. So this life is meant for understanding what is the Supreme Lord, where does He live, what does He do, what is my relationship with Him. This is called brahma-jijnasa. That is actual education. And I am given this machine. If we simply study the machine, then what is the use of it? The sastra says that machine is working, and it will work until it is rotten. So you don't bother with the machine, but you simply appreciate that you have got now a good machine. The dog has got also a machine, and a human being has got a machine. Everyone has got a machine, living entity, but the sastra says, "This machine should not be utilized like the dog's machine." Nayam deho deha-bhajam nr... Everyone has got machine. Even an ant, it has got machine, because according to his desire, he has been given a body. That is also machine. An elephant has got a machine. I am also. I have got also machine. Every one of us, we are spirit soul, and relatively we have got different machine. So that machine is required for going from here. But we should not waste our time simply studying the machine, forgetting our destination. This is human intelligence. God has already given you a type of machine. Now utilize it to go to the destination.

Nr-deham adyam sulabham sukalpam. This nr-deham, this machine is very carefully made not by me, but by the nature. Nature is the agent of God. I wanted to do something. That means I require a particular type of machine. God orders nature that "This living entity wants something like this. You give him a machine." So the prakrti, or the nature, gives us different types of machine. Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah [Bg. 3.27]. I am neither driving the machine; neither I have made the machine. I have been given as gift to work on or to fulfill my desire. This is the position. So sastra says that "You have got now a very good machine." Nr-deham. The human form of body is very good machine. Nr-deham adyam sulabham sukalpam. It is very rare. With great difficulty, you have got this machine because we have to come through so many machines, the aquatics, the plants, the insects, the trees, and the serpents, reptiles, then birds, then beast, millions and millions of years. Just like you have seen this. The trees are standing there, maybe standing for five thousand years. So if you get that machine, you cannot move. You have to stand in one place. So we had to go through this. Foolish people, they do not know.

Therefore this machine is sulabham. Sulabham means very fortunately we have got this machine. And sukalpam, "very nicely made." Those who are medical man, they see how nicely made it is, how the nerves are working, the nails are working, the intestines and the heart and everything -- a grand machine. Therefore it is called sukalpam, "very well planned." And what for? Just like a nice boat, well planned. If you have got a nice boat, you get on it and cross over the river or the ocean. Similarly, we are in this material ocean. Life after life we are struggling. So now we have got a nice boat, this human body. Sulabham sudurlabham. And it is specially advantageous because the breeze is very favorable. When you ply your boat, if the breeze is favorable, pushing on, that is another advantage, good boat and good breeze. And guru-karnadharam: "And the captain, steering man, is guru." He is giving instruction, "Row like this. Turn this way, that way." He is turning everything. So we have got this opportunity. If the boat is very nice, the captain is very nice, the breeze is very favorable, and even accepting or getting this nice boat, favorable, if we do not cross over the sea of ignorance, of material existence, then we are committing suicide. Sa atma-ha. You get all the opportunities, and still you remain in this material world, repetition of birth, death, old age and disease? Is that very good intelligence? No. That is not good.

So we are misled. We are engaged in studying the machine, that's all. Instead of using the machine to cross over the ocean, take the advantage, they are very busy in studying the machine. Is that very good intelligence? Machine is already given to you. You cannot study even. You do not know. Even if you study, you cannot say... I claim, "It is my body," and if somebody asks me, "How many hairs you have got in your body?" I cannot say. How I am eating something, how it is being turned into some secretion, it is going to the heart, it is becoming red and it is again distributed through the nerves and veins -- I do not know anything. I can simply theorize. But the machine is not under your control. The machine is made by God or by nature. It is very subtle machine. If you are very expert, the first thing is that what is the use of simply studying the machine? You got it. You utilize it for going to the destination. That is your intelligent. No, they forgot to use the machine for going to the destination; they are simply studying the machine. And that is going on in the name of science. What is this nonsense science? Simply busy in studying the machine.

So that is our mistake. Our mistake is that we have got advanced or developed consciousness. We should utilize it for going back to home, back to Godhead. Why should we misuse it unnecessarily? And you are not perfect. Suppose you are studying the machine throughout the whole life. What you will get that? Can you make the machine to your favor that this machine will not be lost, there will be no death? You all scientists, you are studying the machine. Have you found out any means that there will be no death? Where is that knowledge. Death will be there. You study the machine or do not study the machine, in due course, time, the death will come and will take you. The machine will stay. So this is intelligence. Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanu... [Bg. 13.9]. You cannot cure even one disease. You are embarrassed with the cancer disease. You find out how the cells are working, how it can be changed, and there will be no cancer. No, that you cannot do. You go on studying simply, waste your time. So sastra says, "Don't waste your valuable time in that way. Try to understand God. Use your intelligence for this purpose." Tapah. Tapo divyam yena suddhyet sattvam [SB 5.5.1]. You have to undergo austerities that you may not be subjected to this machine. That is your business, not to study the machine. How to become independent of the machine. So long you are in this material world, you are desiring differently. Nature is supplying you a different type of machine, and you are busy. Then again, the machine is broken, then you accept another machine. This is going on.

So your problem is to stop this repetition of birth, death, old age and disease. Come to your spiritual life. That is your business. That is the instruction of the sastra. The machine maintaining, everyone knows it. The dog knows how to maintain the machine. He eats according to the necessity of his doggish body. So we also know, human body. So that is natural. That is... The supplies are already there. You cannot manufacture supplies. That is the Vedic instruction: eko yo bahunam vidadhati kaman, nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam (Katha Upanisad 2.2.13). There are many millions and trillions of living entities, and there is another living entity: that is God. So this another, one, singular number. There is no second, duplicate, of this one. But we ordinary living entities, we have got many millions of duplicates. Therefore two things are used: nitya, nityanam. Nityanam means plural number. Many, many, innumerable. You cannot count. Asankhya. The jiva is. Asankhya means nobody can count. And above this asankhya innumerable living entities, there is one prime living entity. God is also a living entity. He is also like us. In your Bible there is there: "Man is made after God." Is it not? So God is living entity, and we have got this form after the form... God is two-handed; we have got two hands. So that is a fact. This human form of life is made according to the form of Lord. It is imitation; that is real. Sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah, isvarah paramah krsnah [Bs. 5.1]. But we are thinking that God has no form. Why? Wherefrom you got your form? You are daily praying, "O God, O Father, give us our daily bread," and we accept God as the supreme father. So if I have got form, the father must have got form. It is reasonable. How you say, "There is no form"? This is all not very reasonable argument. God is also a living entity, but what is the difference between God and all these living entities? They are all dependent on God. That's all. God is great; we are small. Just like father maintains all the children, so we are all children, and the supreme father maintains. So if the children have got forms, so it is naturally concluded the father has got, even though you have not seen the father. Suppose a posthumous child, a child is born after the death or disappearance of the father. So that does not mean because he has not seen the father, he will conclude that "My father had no form." This is not conclusion. He should know from the mother that "Yes, my child, your father had form." So this is intelligence.

So difference between this prime, or the Supreme Person, and these... Difference is that eko yo bahunam vidadhati kaman. We different living entities, we are planning differently. Just like children. Somebody is playing with the motorcar toy, somebody is something, somebody is..., a doll, and the parents are supplying, "All right, you take this doll. You take this. You take this. You take this." So we are playing like that, making plan. So God is supplying all the... But He wants that "My dear child, you are now grown up. You have got this human form of body. You don't play like this and waste your time. You take education and know things as they are." That is called athato brahma jijnasa. The Vedanta-sutra: "Now you have got human form of life. You try to understand what is God." That is the main business. Unfortunately, we are misled by blind leaders. We have been engaged in studying the body, that's all.

So here it is said, nisamya mriyamanasya mukhato hari-kirtanam. So God very much appreciates when we use our tongue and mouth in glorifying or chanting the holy name. He very much appreciates. Because the name of God and God is not different, so immediately he becomes in touch with God. As soon you chant Hare Krsna, immediately we are in touch. So He very much appreciated. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah. Punya-sravana-kirtanah [SB 1.2.17]. Sravana means hearing, and kirtana means chanting. So anyone who is chanting God's name and one who is hearing God's name, both of them are becoming purified, punya. Punya means piety. So simply by chanting... This is the example, that this man was addicted to so many sinful activities, and out of fear or out of his good luck, he chanted "Narayana." Immediately the attendants of Narayana has come to deliver him. And now there will be talk between the order carriers, attendants of Yamaraja and Visnuduta, and that we shall discuss later on.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

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Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.16.24
Los Angeles, July 14, 1974

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Nitai: "Mother, are you the reservoir of all... Mother, you are the reservoir of all riches. Please inform me of the root cause of your tribulations by which you have been reduced to such a weak state. I think that the powerful influence of time, which conquers the most powerful, might have forcibly taken away all your fortune, which was adored even by the demigods."

Prabhupada:

idam hi mamacaksva tavadhi-mulam
vasundhare yena vikarsitasi
kalena va te balinam baliyasa
surarcitam kim hrtam amba saubhagam

So kalena, kalena means "by the time." In the Bhagavad-gita there is, sa kaleneha yogo nastah parantapa. So time is very powerful. Time is eternal, and it is very powerful. So the inquiry is, "Vasundhare, the reservoir of all riches, whether you have been plundered or taken away of all your fortunes in due course of time?" Vasundhara, this planet... There are innumerable planets. This is one of them. And it is referred here that surarcitam. Surarcitam. Sura means the demigods, and arcitam means worshiped. So the demigods, they live in higher planetary system. Their standard of life is far, far better, thousands and thousands times better. Therefore when this planet is more opulent, even the demigods, they eulogize, surarcitam saubhagam. That kind of opulence is certainly very great fortune. So all these inquiries are being made because Krsna left this planet. "When Krsna was present, so the opulence of this planet was so great that even the demigods in higher planetary systems, they were also envious. So that is now... Because Krsna is not there, so that opulence is now taken away. So whether you are so much sorry for this purpose?"

So this planet or any planet, they are all full with opulence. Purnam idam purnam adah [Isopanisad, Invocation]. By... Anything created by God is complete. Several times I have explained. Just like in this planet we require water. Water is required for cleansing, for cultivating... So many things water is, profuse water is required. So Krsna has provided this planet -- three-fourths part of the planet is full with water. But you cannot utilize it unless Krsna touches. There is scarcity of water. You require so much water. Suppose in the desert you can pump water from the sea, but that will not be effective. It must be managed by Krsna. The water must be evaporated by the machine, sunshine, and they'll be turned into clouds. And when that water is poured, then it will benefit.

So you are always dependent on Krsna and His mercy. You are thinking that "We shall adjust these material things and become happy." That is foolishness. That is not possible. Mayadhyaksena prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram [Bg. 9.10]. The prakrti is there. All the riches are there. Everything is there on the ground. Just like we are getting so many things from this ground. The trees, the plants, the foodstuffs, the minerals, so many things. There is everything, complete. You'll see in your garden there are different types of flowers, color, scent, flavor. But wherefrom it is coming? It is coming from the earth. Can you make any scent from the earth? But the scent is coming from the earth. The rose flavor, wherefrom it is coming? It is there. Anyone can understand. But you cannot extract that. Krsna requires His hand. When Krsna is there in the form of seed... Krsna says, bijo 'ham sarva-bhutanam: "I am the seed of all living beings." The seed. That... Just like there is sex. Unless the seed is there, there is no child. Similarly, unless the seed is there, there is no plantation. The banyan tree is there because the seed is there. And the rose tree is there because the seed is there. And Krsna claims, bijo 'ham sarva-bhutanam. And Krsna's potencies are there in the seed so that different types of seeds producing different types of flowers, fruits, colors, flavor. This is Krsna's supervision. Mayadhyaksena [Bg. 9.10].

So ultimately, time and earth and everyone is abiding by the Lord, by the orders of the Lord.

aham sarvasya prabhavo
mattah sarvam pravartate
iti matva bhajante mam
budha bhava-samanvitah
 [Bg. 10.8]

Budhah, those who are not rascals. Budha means intelligent. Budha. Budha means intelligent. So those who are intelligent, they know that everything is supplied by Krsna. So why not depend on Krsna only? Why so many other attempts? Therefore Krsna says,

vyavasayatmika buddhir
ekeha kuru-nandana
bahu-sakha hy anantas ca
buddhayo 'vyavasayinam

Vyavasayi means one who knows business particularly. Vyavasaya. Or one who knows confidently, "It is... This is the cause, this is the effect." So those who know that Krsna is the origin of everything, so they are fixed up in Krsna. Vyavasayatmika buddhir ekeha. One. Just depend on Krsna. One who does not this, they depend on so many things. Buddhayo 'vyavasayinam.

So if we want to be Krsna conscious, we shall fix up our mind on Krsna, and... How to become fixed up, that art will be given to you by the spiritual master. Therefore Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura says in connection with the explanation of this verse, vyavasayatmika buddhih, so he says vyavasayatmika buddhih means to take the words of the spiritual master as life and soul. That is vyavasaya... That is called vyavasayatmika buddhih. And Visvanatha Cakravarti says that "Whatever I am ordered by the spiritual master, that is my life and soul. I don't care for liberation. My only business is to serve my spiritual master." And in the song you have just sung, ye prasade... What is that? Ye prasade...?

Ramesvara: Pure sarva...

Prabhupada: Pure sarva asa. You do not know the meaning. Ye prasade means "By his mercy, all our desires are fulfilled." Ye prasade pure sarva asa...

So, so this is our process, to depend on Krsna. Depend does not mean I shall remain idle. Depend means to work according to the direction of the sastra. Sadhu-sastra-guru-vakya, tinete kariya aikya. Depend does not mean, "Now let me sleep, and Krsna will do everything. Depend on Krsna." No, not like that. Krsna never advised Arjuna that "You sleep on this chariot. (laughter) I'll..." Hare Krsna. He never said that. He said, "You must have to fight." Yudhyasva mam anusmara [Bg. 8.7]. "Fighting you have to do. But you always think of Me." This is the success. Not that depend on Krsna means, "I have not to, nothing to do."

So everything is there. Here it is said that surarcitam kim hrtam amba saubhagam. All opulences are there. I have already explained. Anything fortune... There are mines. There are petrol. There are water. Everything is there. But as soon as we forget Krsna, then the time will take away everything. Yes. It will not allow. Time will not allow to enjoy. Then there will be strife, there will be misunderstanding. Just like the petrol is there in, within this earth, but because we do not know how to use them, therefore there is scarcity of petrol. Petrol is there. We do not know how to use Krsna's property. We are trying to use everything as my own. But factually it is not. Factually it is everything Krsna's. So if we are Krsna conscious, every one of us, there is no scarcity, no want. Because the things are there already. There is no question of scarcity. But because we have forgotten Krsna, there is scarcity. It is very clear. We have forgotten that this petrol belongs to Krsna. Then it is all right. This land belongs to Krsna. But the Arabians are thinking, "This land belongs to us." Therefore there is difficulty.

So the Krsna consciousness movement is so important. If people simply learn this, that everything belongs to Krsna... Isavasyam idam sarvam. Sarvam means "everything." Not that "This much is mine, this much is Krsna's." No. Sarvam. Isavasyam idam sarvam yat kinca jagatyam jagat, tena tyaktena bhunjithah... Simply we shall use as much He has allotted for us. Then there is peace and prosperity, without any difficulty. Otherwise, you go on adjusting your material possessions; the time will take away everything. When you die by the..., in due course of time, then whatever possession we have got, all finished. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, mrtyuh sarva-haras ca aham: "I am death." Krsna is everything. So death is also Krsna. Just like here is a picture of Hiranyakasipu. Such a great demon, so proud. He was thinking that "I am the proprietor of everything." He was chastising his son, doing everything, whatever he liked. But when Nrsimhadeva came, within a second, everything finished. Everything finished. But Prahlada remained the same. Prahlada is not finished. Hiranyakasipu is finished. So those who are trying to be very, very big by material possessions, they'll be all finished. But if you remain in the position of Prahlada, you'll never be finished.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

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