Making Faith Firm

Srimad-Bhagavatam 7.9.7
Mayapur, February 14, 1976

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Dayananda: (chants verse, etc.) "Translation: Prahlada Maharaja thus fixed up in his mind with full attention, the mind and sight, everything was placed in complete trance. Thus, on account of love, he began to offer his prayer in faltering voice."

Prabhupada:

astausid dharim ekagra-
manasa susamahitah
prema-gadgadaya vaca
tan-nyasta-hrdayeksanah
 [SB 7.9.7]

So, this is gradual progress of spiritual mind, and this state is called prema, prema-gadgadaya. So, we have to make progress as it is exemplified by Prahlada Maharaja. Adau gurv-asrayam sad-dharma-prccha sadhu-marga-anugamanam. (aside:) Stop that. The first business is adau, in the beginning, gurv-asrayam. Gurv-asrayam means to take shelter of a bona fide spiritual master, adau gurv-asrayam, and this takes place when there is sraddha. Just like in this meeting, persons who have got little faith, they can sit down and hear. This is called sraddha. And the higher stage of sraddha is to completely accept the instruction of Krsna. In the Caitanya-caritamrta that is highest state of sraddha. In the lower stage, little faith, "So here is something going on about Krsna, let us sit down and hear it." This is kanistha-sraddha, and this sraddha, faith, has to be increased. That ultimately, in the mature stage of sraddha, faith, that is described in the Caitanya-caritamrta,

sraddha-sabde visvasa (kahe) sudrdha niscaya
krsne bhakti kaile sarva-karma krta haya
 [Cc. Madhya  22.62]

This is sraddha. Sraddha-sabde, this sraddha, faith, means sudrdha niscaya, sraddha-sabde visvasa. Krsna says

sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami...
 [Bg. 18.66]

This is called faith. Yes, Krsna says that simply by surrendering at His lotus feet one becomes immediately a liberated person. Krsna says that.

sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami...
 [Bg. 18.66]

Just like if I offer you that if you do this work, I shall give you immediately fifty thousand rupees. So, who will believe me? "This man is a beggar, sannyasi, how he'll give fifty thousand rupees?" So there is no sraddha. But we cannot do so with reference to Krsna. When Krsna says, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami [Bg. 18.66], that is a fact. That is not a bogus promise, because Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, all-powerful. Whatever He likes, He can do. This is called faith.

So after reading Bhagavad-gita, if one does not get this faith in Krsna, then it is useless waste of time. There are many so-called scholars, politicians, they declare that "I read Bhagavad-gita daily, three times," but the result is no faith in Krsna. This is called useless waste of time. If you do not get the faith which is required by studying Bhagavad... Bhagavad-gita is the ABCD reading for understanding God. That is ABC. So if you do not understand even the ABCD, how he'll advance in higher studies? That is not possible. So, even we cannot understand Bhagavad-gita, the ABCD, Krsna says one thing and they make, I mean to say, interpretation in a different way. Krsna says aham adir hi devanam [Bg 10.2], mattah sarvam pravartate. They do not believe it. Srama eva hi kevalam, to such persons the Bhagavata says,

dharmah svanusthitah pumsam
visvaksena-kathasu yah
notpadayed yadi ratim
srama eva hi kevalam
 [SB 1.2.8]

You, you are very religious, performing the ritualistic ceremony very nicely, going to the Ganges and taking your bath, and dharmah svanusthitah pumsam. Very rightly you are executing your religious principle and coming at home, you are reading Bhagavad-gita, but you have no faith in Krsna. That is useless time, useless waste of time. The Bhagavata, (says) srama eva hi kevalam. So this, why this happens? Because these people do not approach the right person, guru. Adau gurv-asrayam.

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu was visited by many learned brahmanas when He was at Puri, Jagannatha Puri. So one learned brahmana, he wrote some poems about Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. There were many brahmanas, they were coming, but all such reading matter, first it was to be tested by His secretary, Svarupa Damodara. If Svarupa Damodara would pass, then Caitanya Mahaprabhu will hear. Otherwise why should He waste His time (with) some hodge-podge writing? So one brahmana, he wrote something about Caitanya Mahaprabhu and came to read, recite before Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and Svarupa Damodara found many mistakes in that poem, so he did not allow him, that "You do not know how to present theistic literature. You don't. You cannot see Caitanya Mahaprabhu." He chastised him about the mistake. So to write theistic literature is not to be done by any ordinary man. It is not to, because they, they do not know. So we should not read any literature which is not presented by a bona fide Vaisnava. It has been forbidden by Sanatana Goswami.

avaisnava-mukhodgirnam
putam hari-kathamrtam
sravanam naiva kartavyam...

He said. Sanatana Goswami is our guide, acarya. He is warning you that "If a person is not Vaisnava, don't hear anything nonsense from him." That is the injunction. Don't hear. This is very rigidly to be followed.

avaisnava-mukhodgirnam
putam hari-kathamrtam
sravanam na(iva) kartavyam
sarpocchistam payah yatha

One can argue, "No, we can hear hari-katha from any person, he may be Vaisnava or not Vaisnava. What is the matter?" But Sanatana Goswami, "No." So, why it is no? Because it is like sarpocchistam payah yatha. Milk is very good, nice food, everyone knows, but if the milk is touched by the lips of a snake, it is not to be touched. It is not to be touched. It has become poison. Very good example. Similarly, if we do not hear from the right person, any Vedic literature, especially Bhagavad-gita because that is the beginning, the sarpocchistam payah yatha. He may be very big scholar, but because he is avaisnava, not devotee, it has become poison. In our country, we have got so many editions, not only in country, in all, outside the country also. In your country. There are so many hodge-podge interpretation of Bhagavad-gita, and they are being read and being used for the last two hundred years ago, but there was no effective result. It could not act. But as soon as this Bhagavad-gita As It Is, we have presented and you are reading, so many thousands of thousands, they are becoming devotee.

So therefore, this process Prahlada Maharaja is demonstrating by his personal behavior because he is mahajana. He is mahajana. Out of the twelve mahajanas. The sastra says, mahajano yena gatah sa panthah [Cc. Madhya 17.186], one has to follow the mahajana, authorized person. Mahajana means authorized person. Ordinary jana, common man, and mahajana means authorized person. We cannot take lesson, instruction from unauthorized person. This authorization must come through the disciplic succession. If the spiritual master, authorized spiritual master says, "You do this," that we have to do. That we are singing daily,

guru-mukha-padma-vakya cittete koriya-aikya
ara na koriho mane asa **

This is the process. This is the process. And if I think that I am more intelligent than my guru... First of all guru must be bona fide, not a bogus guru. The guru, as specified by Caitanya Mahaprabhu, that is not very difficult, who is guru? Caitanya Mahaprabhu said,

yare dekha, tare kaha 'krsna'-upadesa
amara ajnaya guru hana tara' ei desa
 [Cc. Madhya 7.128]

He is guru. One who is strictly following the instruction of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and after following Him, he is just delivering the instruction as Krsna has said, then you become guru. It is not difficult. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has ordered everyone. Therefore our process is to follow Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and then try to understand Krsna's instruction. Just like here in our temple. First of all there is Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Through His mercy we are trying to understand Radha-Krsna. You cannot understand Radha-Krsna directly. That is not possible. That will be like that sarpocchistam payah yatha, milk touched by the lips of a snake. There are so many Bhagavata reciters in India. They jump over to the rasa-lila without understanding Krsna through Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Narottama dasa Thakura has sung, you know?

rupa-raghunatha-pade hoibe akuti
kabe hama bujhabo se jugala-piriti

Don't try to understand jugala-piriti, Radha-Krsna's love, abruptly. It is foolishness. You will misunderstand. Therefore Narottama dasa Thakura, he said, rupa-raghunatha-pade hoibe akuti. Rupa, beginning from Rupa Gosvami up to Raghunatha dasa Gosvami, six gosvamis, Sri-Rupa, Sanatana, Bhatta-Raghunatha, Sri-Jiva, Gopala-bhatta, Dasa-Raghunatha, six gosvamis. So, Narottama dasa Thakura, rupa-raghunatha, beginning from Rupa to Raghunatha dasa. Rupa-raghunatha-pade hoibe akuti kabe hama bujhabo, don't try to understand Radha-Krsna love without going through the instruction of Rupa Gosvami, Sanatana Gosvami, (indistinct) Gosvami, like, that is the instruction.

So we see practically how Prahlada Maharaja immediately attained the state of prema. Here it is said, prema-gadgadaya vaca. Prema, that prema is not this prema. The lusty desire, that is not prema. Prema, one has to learn, one has to go through the disciplic or discipline to attain the state of prema. As Prahlada Maharaja, so he first of all followed the instruction of Brahma, then immediately he got the favor of Lord Nrsimhadeva, and after getting that he got the prema state. You cannot go immediately to the prema state. That is also rupa-raghunatha-pade. Rupa-raghunatha, Rupa Goswami has said (indistinct),

adau sraddha tatah sadhu-
sangah atha bhajana-kriya
tato anartha-nivrttih syat
tato nistha tatah rucih

athasaktis tato bhavas
sadhakanam ayam premnah
pradurbhave bhavet kramah
 [Cc. Madhya 23.14-15]

These are the kramah. You cannot get prema state artificially, crying, falling down and then smoking bidi, this is not prema. Prema you have to learn by the kramah pantha. That kramah pantha is the same, adau sraddha. Adau sraddha. Sraddha means faith. "Yes, Krsna says that, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam [Bg. 18.66], it is right." This is faith, this is beginning of faith. Now to keep the faith or to increase the faith, you have to live with faithful servants of Krsna.

With our, this institution, the center is meant for giving a chance to the common people to get association of devotee. Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sangah [Cc. Madhya 23.14-15]. Sadhu means those who are well-behaved in Krsna consciousness, not upstarts. They are called sadhu. So, those who are living in this temple, they must be strictly very well behaved, so that whoever may come out of sraddha, if he sits down for some time and sees your behavior, then he'll be influenced. And if you become third-class, then how sadhu-sangah will be effective? No. You must strictly follow the regulative principles as given to you by your spiritual master, sastra. You must follow. Then people will come in contact with you, they will be benefited. Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sangah [Cc. Madhya 23.14-15], and if he regularly makes sadhu-sangah, then the effect will be he will try to become a sadhu. That is initiation. Initiation means the beginning of becoming a sadhu, not that after initiation immediately he becomes a sadhu. If he follows, just like we instruct that you chant at least sixteen rounds, you have no illicit sex, you cannot take any meat, fish, eggs, or you cannot have any intoxication up to drinking tea and smoking, and we say no gambling. This is the process of becoming a sadhu. So adau sraddha. This is called bhajana-kriya.

Then anartha-nivrttih. Anartha, these are anartha. There is no need of smoking. It is useless, but we have practiced it. Therefore they are anartha. But if you follow the devotional process, then anartha will be finished very soon. That is the test. Test means, bhakti paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra syat, if you are actually advancing in bhakti, devotional service, then automatically you don't like these nonsense practices. No illicit sex, no meat eating, no gambling, no intoxication, automatically. That is the test how far you are. Anartha-nivrtti syat, these are anartha. Then if he is nistha, firm faith, then ruci, taste then asakti,  attraction then bhava, then prema. So Prahlada Maharaja, he is on the stage of prema, prema-gadgadaya vaca tan-nyasta-hrdayeksanah. when you attain the stage of prema, then your core of heart is cleansed for welcoming, He is there, for seeing.

Therefore in the Brahma-samhita it is said, premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti [Bs. 5.38]. You can see God within your heart. He is sitting there, isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese arjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. You get ready, Krsna is there within your heart, but you cannot see because you have no prema. You cannot see. Krsna does not expose Himself to the non-devotees. He does not, naham prakasah sarvasya yoga-maya-samavrtah [Bg. 7.25]. He'll not expose Himself, but if you attain the stage of prema, as Prahlada Maharaja attained, then you will see Him. How you will see? Sadaiva, always. Not that for two minutes I see and Krsna is no more there. No, not like that. Premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santah sadaiva. Sadaiva means constant, incessantly. You can see.

premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena
santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti
yam syamasundaram acintya-guna-svarupam
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami
 [Bs. 5.38]

Then you can offer your prayers to Krsna, Govinda, and then your life is successful. This is Krsna consciousness process. So try to follow the path chalked out by Prahlada Maharaja. He is one of the mahajanas. Out of the twelve mahajanas, he is also one of them. He is our guru. So try to follow Prahlada Maharaja's instruction and behavior also. Just see his behavior, how he attained the stage of prema gradually.

So you should be ambitious. Our goal of life. That is the, Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission, prema pum-artho mahan. He doesn't say, dharmartha-kama-moksa [SB 4.8.41]. He never says. To become religious, that is not, but that is the beginning, because without religion, everyone is animal, cats and dog. So religion is the beginning, dharma, artha, but generally... (end)

 

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"Yoga System--The Yoga Ladder"

69/02/14 Los Angeles, Bhagavad-gita 6.2-5


Prabhupada: Who is reading?

Devotee: Verse number two. "What is called renunciation is the same as yoga, or linking oneself with the Supreme, for no one can become a yogi unless he renounces the desire for sense gratification."

Prabhupada: Here is the point of yoga practice. Yoga means to join. Now in our conditional state, although we are part and parcel of the Supreme, but we are now separated. The same example. This finger is part and parcel of your body, but if it is separated, amputated, it has no value. But so long it is joined with this body, it's value is millions of dollars or more than that. If there is any disease you can spend any amount to cure. Similarly we at the present moment in the conditioned state of material existence, we are separated from God. Therefore we are so much reluctant to speak of God, to understand about God, our relationship with God. We think it is simply waste of time. In this meeting, everyone knows, this temple, Krsna consciousness temple, is speaking of God. Or any church. People are not very much interested. They think it is a kind of, what is called, recreation, in the name of spiritual advancement, otherwise it is simply waste of time. Better this time could be used for earning some money. Or enjoying in a club or in a restaurant, sense enjoyment.

So detraction from God means sense enjoyment. Those who are too much addicted to sense enjoyment, they are not, I mean to say, eligible for yoga system. Yoga system is not that, that you go on doing all nonsense in sense gratification and simply sit down meditation. This is simply colossal hoax. It has no meaning. Yoga system first is to sense, controlling the sense, yama, niyama. There are eight different stages of practicing yoga. Yama, niyama, asana, dhyana, dharana, pranayama, pratyahara, samadhi. So in the beginning first of all we shall speak in this chapter, Lord Krsna will teach you what is yoga system. Therefore in the beginning Krsna says that no one can become a yogi unless he renounces the desire for sense gratification. So anyone who is indulging in sense gratification, he's a nonsense. He's not a yogi. He cannot be a yogi. Yoga system is strictly celibacy, no sex life. That is yoga system. No one can become a yogi if he indulges in sex life. The so-called yogis come to your country and say, "Yes, whatever you like you can do. You meditate, I give you some mantra." These are all nonsense. Here is authoritative statement that no one can become a yogi unless he renounces the desire for sense gratification. This is the first condition. Go on.

Devotee: Verse number three. "For one who is a neophyte in the eightfold yoga system, work is said to be the means. And for one who has already attained to yoga, cessation of all material activities is said to be the means."

Prabhupada: Yes. There are two stages. One who is practicing yoga to reach to the perfectional platform and one who has attained the perfectional platform. So, so long one is not on the perfectional platform, just trying to do, at that time there are so many works. That asana system, yama, niyama. So generally in your country there are so many yoga societies. They display this asana system. How to sit down, different postures. That helps. But that is the process simply to get onto the real platform. They are simply means. Real yoga system perfection is different from those bodily gymnastic process. There are two stages. One stage is trying to reach the perfectional platform, and another stage is one who has reached the perfectional platform. Go on.

Devotee: Verse number four. "A person is said to have attained yoga when having renounced all material desires, neither acts for sense gratification nor engages in fruitive activities."

Prabhupada: Yes. This is the perfectional stage of yoga system, yoga practice. A person is said to have attained to yoga, that means, yoga means connection. Just like, the same example. Suppose this finger was out of my body. Or don't take this finger, take any machine part. It is out of the machine, lying idle. And as soon as you join with the machine, it works with different functions. Cutacut, cutacut, cutacut, it works. That is yoga. It has been joined. Similarly, we are now differentiated. These material activities, fruitive activities, they have been described simply wasting time. Mudha. Mudha. They have been described in the Bhagavad-gita as mudha. Mudha means rascal. Why? Such a big businessman? You say rascal? Why? He's earning thousands of dollars daily. But they have been described, mudha, rascal, because they're working so hard but what he's enjoying? He's enjoying the same amount of eating, sleeping and mating. That's all. As a man who's earning millions of dollars daily. That does not mean he can enjoy mating millions of woman. No, that is not possible. His power of mating is same one who is earning ten dollars. His power of eating is the same with the man, one who is earning ten dollars. So he does not think that "My enjoyment of life is the same amount with the man who is earning ten dollars. Then why I am working so hard for earning millions of dollars daily? Why I am spoiling my energy in that way?" You see? They are called mudha.

Na mam duskrtinah -- actually he should have engaged, when he earns millions of dollars daily, he should have engaged himself, his time and energy, how to understand God, what is the purpose of life. Because he has no economic problem. So he has got enough time, he can utilize in Krsna consciousness or God consciousness. But he does not take part in that way. Therefore he is mudha. Mudha means, actually mudha means ass. So his intelligence is not very nice. A person is said to have attained yoga, when having renounced all material desires. If one is in perfection of yoga, then he's satisfied. He has no more any material desire. That is perfection. He neither acts for sense gratification nor engages in fruitive activities. Fruitive activities are also, fruitive activities means you earn something for sense gratification. One is practically engaged in some sense gratification, and one is collecting money for sense gratification.

So the fruitive activities, suppose pious activities. Pious activities, according to Veda, everywhere, if you are virtuous, if you give some money in charity, it is virtuous activities. If you give some money for opening hospital, if you give some money for opening schools, free education. These are certainly virtuous activities. But they are also meant for sense gratification. Suppose if I give in charity for distributing education. Then in my next life I will be getting good facilities for education, I'll be highly educated or being educated I shall get nice post. At the end, what is the idea? If I get a good post if I get a good position, how do I utilize it? For sense gratification. Nicely, that's all. Because I do not know anything else. That is fruitive activities. If I go to heaven, a better standard of life. Suppose, in your America, a better standard of life than India. But what does this mean, "better standard of life"? The same eating, sleeping, in a better type, that's all. You are not doing anything more. They are also eating. They are eating some coarse grain, you are eating very nice thing. But eating. Not beyond this eating.

So my better standard of life does not mean any spiritual realization. A better standard of eating, sleeping, mating, that's all. So this is called fruitive activity. Fruitive activity is also another pattern of sense gratification but it is on the basis of sense gratification. And yoga means connection with the Supreme. When the Supreme is connected, as soon as, just like Dhruva Maharaja. As soon as he saw God, Narayana, the boy was undergoing severe austerities, penances to see God. He saw. But when he saw, then he said, svamin krtartho 'smi varam na yace. "My dear Lord, I am now fully satisfied. I don't want to ask anything, any benediction from you." Because what is benediction? Benediction means you get very nice kingdom or a very nice wife or very nice foodstuff, very nice. These things we consider as benediction. But actually when one becomes connected with God, he does not want any such benediction. He's satisfied. Fully satisfied. Svamin krtartho 'smi varam na yace.

The history of this Dhruva Maharaja I have told you many times, that he was a child, five years boy, old. He was insulted by his stepmother. He was sitting on the lap of his father, or he was trying. And his stepmother said,"Oh you cannot sit on the lap of your father because you are not born in my womb." So because he was ksatriya boy, although five years old, he took it a great insult. So he went to his own mother. "Mother, stepmother has insulted me like this." He was crying. Mother said, "What can I do, my dear boy? Your father loves your stepmother more. What can I do?" "No, I want my father's kingdom. Tell me how can I get it." Mother said, "My dear boy, if Krsna, God, blesses you, you can get." "Where is God?" She said, "Oh, we have heard God is in the forest. Great sages go there and find out." So he went to the forest and underwent severe penances and he saw God. But when he saw God, Narayana, he was no more anxious for the kingdom of his father. No more anxious. He said, "My dear Lord, I am satisfied, fully satisfied. I do not want anymore, my kingdom, the kingdom of my father." He gave the comparison that "I was searching out some pebbles, but I have got valuable jewels." So that means he is more satisfied.

When you actually connect yourself with God, then you feel yourself many millions of times satisfied than enjoying this material world. That is God realization. That is the perfection of yoga. Go on.

Devotee: Purport: "When a person is fully engaged in the transcendental loving service of the Lord, he is pleased in himself and thus he is no longer engaged in sense gratification or in fruitive activities. Otherwise, one must be engaged in sense gratification since one cannot live without engagement."

Prabhupada: Yes, that is the point. We must have engagement. We cannot stop, the same example. You cannot stop a child working. Or in activities. By nature we are living entities, we must act. It is not possible to stop activities. So just like it is said, "An idle brain is a devil's workshop." So if we have no good engagement, then you will have to engage yourself in something nonsense. Just like child, if he's not engaged in education, he becomes a spoiled child. Similarly, our two business: either material sense gratification or Krsna consciousness or bhakti-yoga or yoga. So if I am not in yoga system, then I must be in sense gratification. And if I am in sense gratification, there is no question of yoga. Go on.

Devotee: "Without God consciousness, one must be always seeking self-centered or extended selfish activities. But a Krsna conscious person can do everything for the satisfaction of Krsna and thereby be perfectly detached from sense gratification. One who has no such realization, must mechanically try to escape material desires before being elevated to the top rung of the yoga ladder."

Prabhupada: "Yoga ladder." Yoga ladder, it has been compared with a ladder. Just like steps in a big skyscraper house there are steps. So every step is a progress, that's a fact. So the whole stepladder may be called the yoga system. But one may be on the fifth step, another may be on the fiftieth step, another may be on the five hundredth step, and another may be on the top of the house. So although the whole ladder is called yoga system or stair case, but one who is on the fifth step, he cannot be equal with the person who is on the fiftieth step. Or one who is on the fiftieth step, he cannot be compared with the man who is on the five-hundredth step. Similarly, in the Bhagavad-gita you'll find karma-yoga, jnana-yoga, dhyana-yoga, bhakti-yoga. It is stated with the name yoga. Because the whole yoga ladder is connected with the topmost floor. So every system is connected with God, Krsna. But that does not mean every man is on the topmost floor. One who is on the topmost floor, he is to be understood in Krsna consciousness. Others, they are just like fifth or fiftieth or five-hundred, like that. The whole thing is called ladder. Go on.

Devotee: Verse number five. "A man must elevate himself by his own mind. Not degrade himself. The mind is the friend of the conditioned soul and his enemy as well." Purport: "The Sanskrit word atma, self, denotes body, mind and soul, depending on different circumstances. In the yoga system, the mind and the conditioned soul are especially important since the mind is the central point of yoga practice. Atma here refers to the mind. The purpose of the yoga system is to control the mind and to draw it away from attachment to sense objects. It is stressed herein that the mind must be so trained that it can deliver the conditioned soul from the mire of nescience."

Prabhupada: In the astanga-yoga system, this eightfold yoga system, dhyana, dharana -- they are meant for controlling the mind. (Don't make sound.) Mind, unless you control the mind, in the beginning it is said a man must elevate himself by his own mind. Mind is the driver. The body is the chariot or car. So just like if you call your, ask your driver, "Please get me into Krsna consciousness temple." The driver will bring you here. And if you ask your driver, "Please get me in that liquor house." The driver will drive you there. The driver's business is to drive you wherever you like. Similarly your mind is the driver. If you can control -- but if the driver takes your license, that wherever he likes he will take you. Then you're gone. Then your driver is your enemy. But if your driver acts on your order, then he's your friend. So actually the yoga system means to control the mind in such a way that he will act as your friend, not as your enemy.

Actually the mind is acting as my, because I have got little independence, because I am part and parcel of the Supreme who has got full independence, therefore I have got little independence. The mind is controlling that independence. If mind says, "All right, let me go the Krsna conscious temple," and the mind can say, "Oh what is that nonsense, Krsna, let us go to some club." so mind is driving you. Therefore our Krsna consciousness movement is to fix up the mind in Krsna, that's all. He cannot but act as friend. You see? He has no scope to give any one place. As soon as Krsna is seated on the mind, just like as soon as there is sunshine, the sun is on the sky, there is no scope of darkness. There is no possibility. Darkness will never become before the sun. Similarly Krsna is just like sun. You keep Krsna on the mind. The maya, darkness will never be able to come. That is the first-class yoga system. That is the perfection of yoga system. One whose mind is so strong that mind will not allow any nonsense to come in, then where is your falldown? The mind is strong, the driver is strong. He cannot take you anywhere unless you desire.

So the whole yoga system means to make the mind strong. Not to deviate from the Supreme. That is perfection of yoga system. Sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayoh. One should fix up, just like Ambarisa Maharaja fixed up his mind only on Krsna. And there was a fight between a great yogi, astanga-yogi, Durvasa Muni. Maharaja Ambarisa, he was a king, he was a householder, he was pound shilling man. Householder means he has to take account of pound, shilling, pence. Dollars, cents. King, he was actually king. So Durvasa Muni was a great yogi. He was envious of this king. That, "How is that, I am so great a yogi, I can travel in the space, and this man is ordinary king, he cannot show such jugglery of yoga system, but still people honors him most. Why? I shall teach him some lesson." So he picked up some quarrel with the king, that's a long story, I shall state it some other day, so after all he was defeated. And he was directed by Narayana to take shelter of the feet of the king, Maharaja Ambarisa. These instances we see from authoritative scripture. But he was simply keeping Krsna in his mind. And he defeated the greatest yogi. Durvasa Muni, he was so perfect yogi, that within one year he traveled all over this material space and beyond this material space in the spiritual space, went directly to the abode of God, Vaikuntha, and saw the Personality of Godhead personally. Still he was so weak that he has to come back and fall down on the feet of Maharaja Ambarisa. But Maharaja Ambarisa, he was ordinary king, he was simply thinking of Krsna, that's all. These instances we'll see.

Therefore the highest perfectional yoga system is to control the mind. And you can control the mind very easily if you keep the lotus feet of Krsna within you, that's all. Simply think of Krsna and you are conqueror. You are victorious. You become topmost yogi. Because after all, the yoga system is, yoga indriya samyama. Yoga means to control the senses. And above the sense, the mind. So if you control the mind, the senses are controlled automatically. Your tongue wants to eat something nonsense, but if your mind is strong, mind says, "No. You cannot eat. You cannot eat anything except krsna-prasada." Then tongue is controlled. So senses are controlled by the mind. Indriyani parany ahur indriyebhyah param manah [Bg. 3.42]. My body means senses, my activities means sensual activities, that's all. But above the senses is the mind. Above the mind is the intelligence. And above the intelligence is the spirit soul. If one is on the spiritual platform, on the soul platform, then his intelligence is spiritualized, his mind is spiritualized, his senses are spiritualized, he is spiritualized. This is the process of Krsna consciousness. Because actually the spirit soul is working but he has given his power of attorney to this nonsense mind. He is sleeping. But when he's awakened, the master is awakened, the servant cannot do anything nonsense. Similarly if you are awakened in Krsna consciousness, your intelligence, your mind, or your senses cannot act nonsensically. They must according to that. That is spiritualization. That is called purification.

Hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam bhaktir ucyate [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. Bhakti means to act spiritually. How you can act? You have to act with your senses. Therefore you have to spiritualize your senses. Meditation, stopping action means stopping nonsense but acting in Krsna consciousness is transcendental. Just like you have to stop your senses acting nonsense but that is not perfection. You have to act nicely. Then it is perfection. Otherwise if you don't train your senses to act nicely it will again fall down to the nonsense activities. So we have to give engagement to the senses to act for Krsna. Then there is no chance of fall down. That is Krsna consciousness. Go on.

Devotee: "In material existence, one is subjected to the influence of the mind and the senses. In fact, the pure soul is entangled in the material world because of the mind's ego which desires to lord it over material nature. Therefore the mind should be trained so that it will not be attracted by the glitter of material nature. In this way the conditioned soul may be saved. One should not degrade oneself by attraction to sense objects. The more one is attracted by sense objects, the more one becomes entangled in material existence. The best way to disentangle oneself is always to engage the mind in Krsna's service. The Sanskrit word hi in this verse is used for emphasizing this point, i.e., that one must do this. It is also said: ‘For man, mind is the cause of bondage and mind is the cause of liberation. Mind absorbed in sense objects is the cause of bondage and mind detached from the sense objects is the cause of liberation.' Therefore the mind which is always engaged in Krsna consciousness is the cause of supreme liberation."

Prabhupada: Yes. There is no chance. Mind being engaged always in Krsna consciousness, there is no chance of its being engaged in maya consciousness. The more we engage our mind in Krsna consciousness, the more you keep yourself in the sunlight, there is no chance of getting into darkness. That is the process. If you like, you are at liberty. You can keep yourself within the room in darkness, and you can come in the broad daylight. That depends on your choice. But when you come in the broad sunlight, there is no chance of darkness. Darkness can be eradicated by light, but light cannot be covered by darkness. Suppose you are in a dark room. You bring one lamp. The darkness over. But you take something dark and go to the sunlight, it will fade away. So krsna surya-sama maya haya andhakara. Krsna is just like sunlight. And maya is just like darkness. So what darkness will do in sunlight? You keep yourself in sunlight. Darkness will fail to act upon you. This is the whole philosophy of Krsna consciousness.

Keep always yourself engaged in Krsna consciousness activities. Maya will not be able to touch you. Because there is no possibility of darkness becoming influential in light. That is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. That when Vyasadeva, under the instruction of his spiritual master, Narada, by bhakti-yoga: bhakti-yogena pranihite samyak, pranihite 'male. Bhakti-yogena manasi. The same, mind, manasi means mind. When enlightened by bhakti-yoga, bhakti-light, bhakti-yogena manasi samyak pranihite amale. When the mind becomes completely freed from all contamination. That can be done by bhakti-yoga. Bhakti-yogena manasi samyak pranihite 'male apasyat purusam purnam. He saw the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Mayam ca tad-apasrayam. And he saw this maya just on the background. Apasrayam. Light and darkness, along with, just like here is light. There is darkness also here, little darkness. So darkness remains under the shelter of light. But light does not remain under the shelter of darkness. So Vyasadeva saw Krsna, the Supreme Lord, and this maya, darkness, apasrayam, just under His shelter.

And who is this maya? That is explained. Yaya sammohito jiva. The same maya, the same illusory energy which has covered these conditioned souls. And who are those conditioned? Yaya sammohito jiva atmanam tri-gunatmakam. Although this spirit soul is as light as Krsna or God, although small. But he's identifying himself with this material world. Yaya sammohitah, this is called illusion. When we identify ourself with this matter, yaya sammohito jiva atmanam tri-gunatmakam, paro 'pi manute 'nartham. Although he is transcendental, still he's engaged in nonsensical activities. Paro 'pi manute 'nartham tat-krtam cabhipadyate. And he acts dictated by this maya. These are very nicely explained in Srimad-Bhagavatam in the First Canto you'll find, Seventh Chapter.

So our position is that. That we are spiritual sparks, lightning spark. But now we are covered by this illusory energy, maya. And we are being dictated by maya and acting and becoming entangled more and more in material energy. You have to get out from this entanglement by this yoga, or perfect yoga of Krsna consciousness. That is yoga system. All right, stop. Any questions? (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 6.2-5 -- Los Angeles, February 14, 1969

"Forebearance To Cure The Body"

75/02/14 Mexico, Bhagavad-gita 2.14


Prabhupada:

matra-sparsas tu kaunteya
sitosna-sukha-duhkha-dah
agamapayino 'nityas
tams titiksasva bharata
[Bg. 2.14]

So from last night discussion, it is to be concluded that we are not going to die. Krsna said not only He, but also Arjuna and all other who were present in the battlefield, they will continue to exist. So how we shall exist? That is also discussed, that as we are existing now -- we have accepted a type of material body and existing -- similarly, after finishing this body, I'll accept another body and exist. Now, the question is that "In what kind of body I shall exist after finishing this body?" That is also explained, that if we like, we can exist in the higher planetary system where the duration of life is very, very long, the sense enjoyment is very, very perfect, more than this world. This we can have. Similarly, we can exist in lower grade of life like cats, dogs, insects, trees, aquatics, like that. And we can exist also in the same way as we are existing now. And we can exist also exactly like God -- eternal life of bliss and knowledge.

Actually, spiritual body means eternal life of bliss and knowledge. This body which we are possessing now, material body, it is neither eternal, nor blissful, nor full of knowledge. Every one of us, we know that this material body will be finished. And it is full of ignorance. We cannot say anything, what is beyond this wall. We have got senses, but they are all limited, imperfect. Sometimes we are very much proud of seeing and challenge, "Can you show me God?" but we forget to remember that as soon as the light is gone, the power of my seeing is gone. Therefore the whole body is imperfect and full of ignorance. The spiritual body means full of knowledge, just opposite. So we can get that body next life, and we have to cultivate how to get that type of body. We can cultivate to get the next body in the higher planetary system or we can cultivate the next body like cats and dog, and we can cultivate such body as eternal, blissful knowledge. Therefore the best intelligent person will try to get next body full of blissfulness, knowledge, and eternity. That is explained in the Bhagavad-gita. Yad gatva na nivartante tad dhama paramam mama [Bg. 15.6]. That place, that planet, or that sky, where you go and you'll never return back to this material world... In the material world, even if you promote to the highest planetary system, Brahmaloka, still, you'll have to come back again. And if you try your best to go to the spiritual world, back to home, back to Godhead, you'll not come again to accept this material body.

Then the question is that "If I am eternal, why there are so many miserable condition of life? And why I am forced to die?" So this is actually the intelligent question, that "If I am eternal, then why I shall remain in this material body which is subjected to death, birth, old age and disease?" Therefore Krsna instructs that this miserable condition of life is due to this material body. Those who are karmis, means those who are engaged in sense gratification... They are called karmis. The karmis do not care for future; they simply want immediate facilities of life. Just like a child without the care of the parents, he plays whole day and doesn't care for future life, do not take any education. But in the human form of life, if we are actually intelligent, we shall try our best how to get that life or body where there is no more death, birth, old age and disease.

So this Krsna consciousness movement means to educate people for that purpose. Now, one may say that "If I simply devote in Krsna consciousness, then how my material necessities will be supplied?" So the answer is there in the Bhagavad-gita, that anyone who is simply engaged in Krsna consciousness, for his necessities of life Krsna will look after. Krsna is looking after for everyone's maintenance. Eko yo bahunam vidadhati kaman: "That one Supreme Person is maintaining the necessities of all living entities." So for a devotee who is trying to go back to home, back to Godhead, there will be no scarcity. Be rest assured. Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, tesam satata-yuktanam yoga-ksemam vahamy aham: [Bg. 10.10] "A devotee who is engaged always in My service, I look after, how his necessities of life will be fulfilled." A practical example is that in this Krsna consciousness movement we have got one hundred centers, and each temple, not less than twenty-five, up to 250 devotees live. So we have no fixed up means of income, and we are spending in all the branches eighty thousand dollars per month. But by grace of Krsna we have no scarcity; everything is supplied. People are surprised sometimes that "These people do not work, do not take any profession, simply chant Hare Krsna. How they live?" So that is no question. If cats and dogs can live at the mercy of God, the devotees can live very comfortably by the mercy of God. There is no such question, but if somebody thinks that "I have taken to Krsna consciousness, but I am suffering for so many things," for them or for all of us the instruction is matra-sparsas tu kaunteya sitosna-sukha-duhkha-dah: [Bg. 2.14] "These pains and pleasure is just like winter and summer." In the winter the water is painful, and in the summer the water is pleasing. So what is the position of the water? It is pleasing or painful? It is neither painful, neither pleasing, but in certain season, by touching the skin it appears to be painful or pleasant. Such pains and pleasure is explained herein: "They are coming and going. They are not permanent." Agama apayinah anityah means "They are coming and going; therefore they are not permanent." Krsna therefore advises, tams titiksasva bharata: "Just tolerate." But you do not forget your real business, Krsna consciousness. Don't care for these material pains and pleasure. Of course, we shall try our best if there is pains and pleasure to counteract it, but even it is not done, don't be misled by these so-called pains and pleasure.

So one of the devotional quality is titiksa, tolerance. That should be learned, how to tolerate in every condition of life. Just like those who are actually brahmanas in India... We have got also brahmanas in the Western countries, now created. So because it is pinching cold, they do not forget to take bath early in the morning. It is simply practice. It may be painful for one day or two day, but if you practice, it is no longer painful. So one should not give up the practice of taking bathing early in the morning because it is severe cold. That is not. Similarly, in the summer season, because it is scorching heat, one should not decide that "We shall stop cooking." Because in the kitchen it may be too hot, but for that reason we cannot give up cooking. Similarly, all the rules and regulation that are there, it may be painful, but we cannot give it up. We have to learn how to tolerate. Therefore Krsna advises, tams titiksasva bharata: "My dear Arjuna, the good descendant of Bharata Maharaja, you try to tolerate this." Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has advised, therefore, just to advance in Krsna consciousness, how one should be tolerant. He has said, trnad api sunicena: "Just you become humbler than the grass." Just like one grass so many people are trampling over. It does not protest. Trnad api suni..., taror api sahisnuna: "And tolerant more than the tree..." Just like tree. Somebody is taking his branches, somebody is snatching its fruit, sometimes cutting it, but still, the tree is giving you shelter, fruit, and leaves and fruits and flowers. Very good example. So anyone who is desiring to go back to home, back to Godhead, he has to learn to be tolerant and forbearing. That is the instruction of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, trnad api sunicena taror api sahisnuna, amanina manadena: "For himself, one should always think that he has no respect. He doesn't require to command any respect. But all respects he offer to others." In this way, if we become practiced, then we become fit for going back to Godhead, back to home. That will be explained in the next verse:

yam hi na vyathayanty ete
purusam purusarsabha
sama-duhkha-sukham dhiram
so 'mrtatvaya kalpate

"If one practices like that, then he becomes fit for going back to home, back to Godhead." So practice, anything you practice... In Bengali it is said sarirera nama mahasaya ya sahabe tai sa.(?) You practice in you body, and if you come to the point of tolerance, then anything you can practice and it will be tolerable. Just like in the morning, when we go for morning walk, they are practicing running. Eh? So many people are practicing running, but I cannot run. But... So if I practice for some days, I can also run.

So anything you practice, you'll be successful. So if by practicing Krsna consciousness, you can go back to home, back to Godhead, why should you neglect it? That will solve your all problems. The real problem is birth, death, old age and disease, and if you can solve this problem simply by practicing some regulative principles, why don't you do it? So that is our request. We are opening hundreds of centers to give training to the people to practice this and go back to home, back to Godhead. But you cannot go back to home, back to Godhead, so cheaply. You have to practice certain regulative principle; then you will be fit. That is not very difficult, and if you practice, that will be very easy, and the beginning should be chanting the Hare Krsna mantra so that you'll be fit for practicing also. So therefore, take full advantage of this movement. Now it is one... We have got center in your city. I request you to take full advantage of this Krsna consciousness movement and be successful in your life. But rest assured. Do not be misled that (sic:) after finishing this body, every one of us will have to accept another body. If we neglecting the rules and regulation, if we have to accept the body of a dog, just imagine how much displeasing it will be. We have to take to this principle, as Krsna says, mad-yajino 'pi yanti mam: "Anyone who is engaged in Krsna consciousness, he comes to Me." So practice this Krsna consciousness and go back to home, back to Godhead. Now any question? No question? Everything all right?

Hrdayananda: (translating question) He says if we practice Krsna consciousness and develop a spiritual body, is there also a... Which spirit animates the spiritual body?

Prabhupada: Yes, we'll get spiritual body. Spiritual body is already there; it is simply covered by material body. You have to cure this material body. Then you get your original, spiritual body. It is curing process. Just like one has got fever. Fever is not permanent -- temporary. But cure this fever; then you healthy.

Hrdayananda: (translating) She's saying that you were saying how one can take birth as a dog even, so she's wondering how long does this go on. How many births does one take like this?

Prabhupada: As long as you are unable to go back to home, back to Godhead, you have to change this body, either dog or this or that or this. And there are 8,400,000 forms of body. You have to accept one of them. Now you make your decision whether you are ready to accept all these different types of body or you get original, spiritual body. In the spiritual body there is no more birth, death, old age and disease, and the material body continuously there should be birth, death, old age and disease. You can get that spiritual body simply by little cultivation in this human form of life, next life. But if you get next other than human form of life, then you have to wait again millions of years to come to this human form of life. After all, we are under the stringent laws of nature. You... We are..., every one of us, we are under the grip of the laws of material nature. It will go on. You cannot change it unless you come to Krsna consciousness.

Hrdayananda: (translating) He wants to know if our reincarnations are progressive or regressive.

Prabhupada: Yes, it is progressive or degressive also.

Hrdayananda: (translating) Why would we take birth as an animal?

Prabhupada: Because you act like animal.

Hrdayananda: (translating) He says that in school in the material world, if one behaves badly, he has to stay where he is; he cannot progress. But he does not go back. So why...?

Prabhupada: No, sometimes he is given the down class. Sometimes he is degraded: "Go to the down class." Yes. That is quite natural. (laughter) Eh? Down? So any question?

Hrdayananda: (translating) He says he doesn't believe that one can go back.

Prabhupada: He may not believe in the law, but law is law. If somebody says "I can commit some criminal act, but I don't believe in the court's judgement," will it be accepted? You believe or not believe; the law will act. Just like if you infect some disease, infectious disease, if you contaminate, then you must develop that disease. That is the law. So we are contaminating ourself with different laws of material nature, and according to that law, we have to accept the body. The material laws are not under your control; you are under the control of material laws.

Hrdayananda: (translating) If also on other planets one has to continue changing bodies?

Prabhupada: Yes, the planets... There are different planets means different facilities of material convenience.

Hrdayananda: (translating) Who is in charge of giving us our next body?

Prabhupada: God. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati. God, in His Supersoul feature, He is situated in everyone's heart and he is seeing all our activities, and he is awarding the different kind of bodies. You can... If you like, you can find out this verse,

isvarah sarva-bhutanam
hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati
bhramayan sarva-bhutani
yantrarudhani mayaya
[Bg. 18.61]

You can explain this. Find out. (Hrdayananda reads translations in Spanish) Purport? (Hrdayananda reads purport in Spanish) So we have to accept that we are fully under control. If childishly we say that we are independent, that is foolishness.

Hrdayananda: (translating) He wants to know if the senses, the material senses we now have, originally belong to the soul which has been covered by the material body.

Prabhupada: Yes. Just like a man is in a normal condition, but if he becomes mad, the same senses are there, but he's in abnormal condition. So when we are in this material world we using our senses in abnormal way. So when we cure the senses, we get into normal condition. That is spiritual life. So sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam tat-paratvena nirmalam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. We have to give up all these designation of life and we have to become purified. Then we come to our normal condition.

Hrdayananda: (translating) He wants to know what are the characteristics of a person who has realized that he is not this body.

Prabhupada: Yes, he is engaged in Krsna consciousness. He doesn't know anything but Krsna. That is normal condi... [break] Thank you very much.

(Questions and answers with Spanish translator)

Hanuman (translates into Spanish throughout): (Spanish)

Prabhupada: Actually spiritual consciousness keeps the body fit. Just like in the body the spirit soul is there and the consciousness is also there, maybe polluted, but as soon as the spirit soul gives up this body, the body immediately begins to decompose. So the decomposition of the body is checked by the spiritual presence. So if you become advanced in spiritual consciousness there is no question of suffering from bodily disease.

Girl devotee: (translates Spanish) [break] ...along with the spirit soul can be realized?

Prabhupada: Yes, by your present position. You can simply take the information that the dimension of the spirit soul is one ten-thousandth part of the tip of your hair. Very small particle, that is spirit soul. The dimension is given. You have got your hair. You can just imagine only; you cannot measure. And you divide the top of your hair into ten thousand parts, and that one part is the measurement of the spirit soul. That small particle is so powerful. Just imagine what is spiritual power. It is less than the atom. Therefore it is described in the Vedic lit..., anor aniyan mahato mahiyan: "The spirit is greater than the greatest, and the smaller than the smallest."

Devotee: (Spanish)

Girl devotee: (translating from Spanish) He wants to know exactly what is the form of the body. If spirit soul is nonmaterial, what is the form?

Prabhupada: There is form. Just like this body is compared with the dress. Now, just like in your present material form you have got hand; therefore your coat has got hand. If you have got... You have got leg; therefore your pant has got leg. Therefore it is to be assumed that the spirit soul has got form, and it has developed into hands, legs, heads, everything. It is not formless; it has got form. But with our material eyes at the present, gross eyes, we cannot find it; therefore we say it has no form.

Devotee: (Spanish)

Girl devotee: Is Jesus in the parampara?

Prabhupada: Yes. He says, "There is God. I am son of God." That is parampara. Yes. Unfortunately nobody cares to follow Jesus Christ. That I must say. Jesus Christ says, "Thou shall not kill," and Christians are very expert to kill. (laughter) They take pride in bullfighting. This is the position. So it is very difficult to find out a real Christian.

Man: (Spanish)

Hrdayananda: He wants to ask something which is not about you. (?)

Prabhupada: What is that?

Girl Devotee: (translating) At the present, I can't live in the temple, can't live in the asrama, but I can still see the devotees. What else can I do?

Prabhupada: You follow the temple procedure. You can remain anywhere. It doesn't matter. What is temple? They are following some rules and regulation. [break] If you are eating something and if you get a better thing, you'll give it up. So when one takes to bhakti means he understands the inferior quality of karma. So you take the superior quality activities and you forget inferior quality. Param drstva nivartate. This is the Vedic version. When one finds out superior engagement, he gives up inferior engagement.

Devotee or Guest: (Spanish)

Hrdayananda: He asked about heart transplants, where does the soul go in heart transplant, when they change the heart from one body to another body. He's asking about that.

Prabhupada: Heart changing?

Hanuman: No. Now they're doing this heart transplantation. They're taking the heart of one person...

Prabhupada: The soul changes from this heart to that heart. That's all. Just like you are running your car. It stops. Then you change, this car to that car. That's all. (laughter) This is it. It is very common thing.

Devotee or Guest: (Spanish)

Hrdayananda: If by purifying ourselves we feel our relationship that we have with the Supreme Personality of Godhead?
Prabhupada: Yes, that is the center of purification.

Hanuman: Prabhupada, I would like to know, if there is no birth in the spiritual world, how do we re-enter the spiritual world?

Prabhupada: Hm? Birth means, first of all you take your birth where Krsna is now present. Krsna is present in one of the universes. There are innumerable universes. So you take your birth in the next universe, or where Krsna is now. Then you become trained up. And when you are trained up, then you personally go to Vaikuntha. No birth. Hm, what is that?

Hrdayananda: More questions and answers?

Prabhupada: If you like, I can go on. [break]

Hrdayananda: If there's another way to go to God. If there is another way.

Prabhupada: No. (laughter) Because it is stated in Bhagavad-gita,

bhaktya mam abhijanati
yavan yas casmi tattvatah
tato mam tattvato jnatva
visate tad-anantaram
[Bg. 18.55]

Find out this.

Hrdayananda: (reads Spanish translation)

Prabhupada: Nobody is allowed to enter kingdom of God without becoming bhakta. [break] And there is no difficulty of becoming bhakta because the..., to become bhakta means four principles. One thing is to always think of Krsna. Man-mana bhava mad-bhaktah. That is bhakta. Simply by thinking of Krsna... That is Hare Krsna. When you chant Hare Krsna, you think of Krsna. You become bhakta immediately. Then after becoming man-mana bhava, mad-yaji: "You worship Me," mam namaskuru, "and offer obeisances." It is very simple thing. If you think of Krsna and if you offer little obeisances and if you worship Him, these three things will make you bhakta and you go back to home, back to Godhead. We are teaching this thing: chant Hare Krsna, offer obeisances unto Deity and worship. Finish all business. So why they should go to the jnana path? It requires so much knowledge and so much grammatical, so much nose pressing, so many things. You avoid all these things. Simply do these three things and you become bhakta. Why don't you take the easiest process and go back to home, back to Godhead? Thank you very much. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 2.14 -- Mexico, February 14, 1975