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Krsna's Order Is Final

73/08/01 London, Bhagavad-gita 1.45-46

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yadi mam apratikaram
asastram sastra-panayah
dhartarastra rane hanyus
tan me ksemataram bhavet
 [Bg. 1.45]

sanjaya uvaca
evam uktvarjunah sankhye
rathopastha upavisat
visrjya sa-saram capam
soka-samvigna-manasah
 [Bg. 1.46]

Translation: "I would consider it better for the sons of Dhrtarastra to kill me unarmed and unresisting, rather than fight with them.""Sanjaya said: Arjuna, having thus spoken on the battlefield, cast aside his bow and arrows and sat down on the chariot, his mind overwhelmed with grief."

Prabhupada: Yadi mam apratikaram asastram sastra-panayah. It is the custom between the ksatriyas that in the fighting, if the other party hasn't got weapon to fight, this party will supply him weapon, not that the other party without weapon and this party will take opportunity to kill him. This is not the rules and regulation of fighting. There are many rules and regulation of the fighting. Not that "Because he is my enemy, I shall kill him any way." No. There are rules and regulations. If the enemy has broken his chariot, he is fallen down on the ground, the other party also will immediately get down from the chariot. Suppose he is feeling... If one is on the foot and another on the chariot, so he will be in superior position. So therefore the opposite party must also get down from the chariot and walk with him. That means the defeated enemy should be given all opportunities so he may not think that unnecessarily, in weak position, he has been killed. No. So Arjuna says... Arjuna, of course, did later on. When he killed Karna. Karna was without weapon, and he fell down from the chariot. Karna, after falling down from the chariot, and he was trying to raise the wheel of the chariot from the mud, so Krsna asked Arjuna "That this is the opportunity to kill him. You kill him immediately." So at that time he had no weapons and he fell down from the chariot, and in that position he was killed by Arjuna by the order of Krsna. This is violating the laws.

So you can violate the laws on the order of Krsna. You cannot do. This is surrender. When Krsna says that "You do this," although it is wrong, you have to do it. There is no consideration. Just like in fight, the commander says to the soldiers, "Do this." His duty is to do that. He should not think at that time what is right or wrong. Just like Yudhisthira Maharaja, he was advised by Krsna that "Yudhisthira, Maharaja Yudhisthira, you go to Dronacarya and inform him that ‘Your son is dead.' " It was a false information. Because Dronacarya would not die if he is not affected with some lamentation. So Krsna asked Maharaja Yudhisthira that "You go because you are recognized truthful, Dharmaraja. So when you will say, this is also false, he will believe." But Yudhisthira hesitated, "How can I tell lie?" He disobeyed the order of Krsna, and he wanted to become very truthful. For this reason he had to see hell. So in the mundane consideration there are so many things, right and wrong. So long you are on the mundane platform, you have to obey all these right and wrong. But in the spiritual platform, when it is ordered by Krsna... He is above all this duality. He is Absolute. So even if He says to do something wrong... Because He cannot say anything which is wrong. God is all-good. If you discriminate God's order from the mundane platform, then you will be misguided. Anyone who has got firm and fixed up faith that whatever God does, whatever God orders, even from mundane calculation it may be wrong, that is right... That is absolute understanding. So those who are in the spiritual platform, for them, there is no such consideration, which is right and which is wrong. Their only consideration is whether Krsna is pleased. That's all. If Krsna is pleased by inducing me to do something wrong, I will not hesitate to do it. I will do it because it is Krsna's order. Tasmin tuste jagat tustam. My principle should be, "If Krsna is satisfied, then everything is all right." But while we are in the mundane platform, we should not concoct the idea that "Krsna is pleased; let me do that." No. That you, cannot do. You have to follow the rules and regulations. But if you think that it is... You cannot think; neither you can manufacture. So either you should hear from Krsna directly or... That is not possible because we are not in touch with Krsna at the present moment. We are trying to see Krsna through the transparent medium of spiritual master. So we cannot manufacture that "This is Krsna's desire." No. You have to get it confirmed from the transparent medium, spiritual master. These are the principles.

So Arjuna says, yadi mam apratikaram. Pratikaram, apratikaram. Pratikaram means counteraction, and apratikaram means without any counteraction. So he is informing Krsna that "If the other party, dhartarastrah, the sons of Dhrtarastra, other party, they kill me while I am not prepared..." But that is not the regulation of fighting. So therefore he says apratikaram: "Whether if I am not prepared and they kill me all of a sudden, this is wrong. I accept, even they kill me, apratikaram, without I am fully equipped..." Asastram. In the fight, one must be equipped with all weapons. "But when I am not equipped with weapons or I am not willing to fight... Because I am not willing to fight." This has been decided: "I cannot kill my kinsmen. Therefore I am not going to take the step of pratikaram, counteraction. So even in this condition, they come and kill me," yadi mam apratikaram asastram, "I am not fully equipped with sastra, weapons," asastram and sastra-panayah, "and they are fully equipped with weapons," dhartarastra rane hanyus, "so in this condition the other party, my cousin-brothers, sons of Dhrtarastra, if they kill me," rane hanyus, tan me ksemataram bhavet, "I shall prefer that. I am not going to fight. If you think that ‘If you don't fight, then they will take the opportunity...' " He is talking with Krsna. He is already giving the counterargument, that "Krsna, if you think that I don't fight, but they will take the opportunity and kill me immediately, that also I shall prefer, but I am not going to fight. This is my decision." Sanjaya uvaca. So Sanjaya, the secretary of Dhrtarastra... They were sitting in a room. So evam uktva, "thus saying," Arjuna, the person... Arjuna is nominative case. Arjuna, sankhye, "in the battlefield;" rathopastha, "on the chariot," upavisat. You have seen the picture. When Krsna blew His conchshell and from the backside Arjuna is just trying to take his arrow and fight... But instead of fighting, he's visrjya sa-saram capam. "No, no, no. I am not going to..., giving up. Finished. I am no more going to fight." Visrjya sa-saram capam. Why it is? Soka-samvigna-manasah. His mind was overwhelmed with lamentation, that "How can I kill my kinsmen?" This is the position.

So apratikaram, pratikaram. There are two things. Pratikaram means counteraction. Here in this material world, for everything there is counteraction. Just like if you are diseased, so you have to take the medicine. That is pratikaram. The disease is caused by some, what is called, disarrangement within the body. So we have to arrange, we have to set up the disarrangement within the body. That is pratikaram. Medicine, counteraction. Similarly, if somebody is coming to kill you, so you also become prepared to kill him. This is pratikaram. If somebody is drowning in the sea, then you have to give him some help, send some boat or some lifeboat so that he can be saved. So we have got so many... This material world is going on. It is full of dangers. Padam padam yad vipadam. Material world means step by step, simply danger. That is material world. So we have to find out pratikaram, counteraction, how to save yourself from danger. Just like when we walk, we see in so many doors, "Danger." So that you are warned. Sometimes the doors are: "Beware of the dog." So you have to take care, "No, I shall not enter." So everything there is danger, and there is pratikaram, counter, counteraction, how to save yourself from it. This is called struggle for existence. In this material world, there is only this danger and counteraction. I am unhappy; so just to become happy I have to work, I have to get money. Whatever I want... So this is going on. Pratikaram, danger, vipadam. Padam padam yad vipadam. Padam padam yad vipadam na tesam. So samasrita ye pada-pallavam plavam. Anyone who has taken shelter of the lotus feet of Krsna, samasrita ye pada-pallavam plavam mahat-padam punya-yaso murareh. Murari. Murari means Krsna. So punya-yaso. He is simply glorified by pious activities. There is no impious activities in Krsna. Krsna is the purest. So whatever He does, that is pure. The rascals they do not know this. They think, "Krsna is immoral." And He has become a professor, teacher. He does not know, he does not understand Krsna. So many big, big professors, learned scholars, they do not understand what is Krsna. And they talking about Krsna. They are taking the position of instructing about Krsna. Just see how rascaldom. You do not know something perfectly, and still, you are talking about it. This is going on. Punya-yaso murareh. What is Krsna? Krsna says, bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyante [Bg. 7.19]. We have to know Krsna. Because as soon as you know Krsna, you become immediately liberated.

So knowing Krsna is not so easy thing. Therefore Krsna says, manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye [Bg. 7.3]. First of all you become siddha, perfect. Perfect means perfect knowledge. That is called siddha. And another siddha means very powerful, master of all yogic perfection. That is also siddha. Yogic perfection, eight kinds of perfection,

anima-laghima-praptih
prakamyam mahima yatha
isitvam ca vasitvam ca
tatha kamavasayita

So they obtain eight kinds of siddhis. They are also called siddhas. From material point of view, a perfect yogi can counteract anything, and whatever he likes, he can do. That is called siddhi, asta-siddhi. But still, he is not as siddha as Krsna. Krsna's name is Yogesvara. He is the master of all the yogis. Yogesvara. Yatra yogesvarah krsnah. The yogis also, they are deficient with Krsna's power. Still, some rascals, without any yoga siddhi, they claim that "I have become God." What is your qualification? Have you got all the yoga-siddha? Then how you claim that you are... But rascals, they claim to become God, and other rascals, they also believe that "Here is God." Both of them are animals. Sva-vid-varahostra-kharaih samstutah purusah pasuh [SB 2.3.19]. One who does not know actually what is Krsna, if he accepts somebody, some rascal as God, then he is also animal. That is also animal. One who is claiming that "I am as good as Krsna," he is certainly animal, crazy. He does not know what is the power of Krsna, how much He is Yogesvara. Still, he is falsely claiming to become Krsna. And one who accepts him as Krsna... So Krsna, one should understand first of all Krsna. Without understanding Krsna, if somebody remarks, if he thinks Krsna as ordinary human being, avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritam [Bg. 9.11], that is the mudha's business, rascals' business. Krsna, because He comes as ordinary human being, manusya-lila, if we take Him, Krsna, as like me, like ordinary, than I am a mudha. How a human child at the age of six or seven years, one can lift the whole mountain Govardhana? First of all try to understand Krsna, how much powerful He is. How a three-month-old child can kill a big demon, Putana. These things are there in the Bhagavatam about Krsna's life. How do you claim to become as good as Krsna? This is crazy. Animalism.

So Krsna's order must be final. If He says then everything is all right. So here Arjuna's position is: Krsna has already arranged the battle, and he knows that Krsna wants this battle; still, he says that yadi mam apratikaram, he decides in his own way. This is called maya. He knows what is Krsna's desire, and still, he is speaking his own philosophy. That means Arjuna is placing himself on the position of ordinary man. Ordinary man does not know what is Krsna and what is Krsna's desire, and he manufactures his own philosophy and thoughts. That is ordinary man. But Arjuna, he is always friend of Krsna, constant friend. His name is Gudakesa, above all darkness. Certainly he must be. One who is Krsna's friend directly, how there can be ignorance? There cannot be. Then why Arjuna is playing that part? He knows Krsna's desire; still, he says that yadi mam apratikaram asastram sastra-panayah. And no... Tan me ksemataram bhavet. He is playing like that. Because without Arjuna's playing like that, how this Bhagavad-gita will come? This is just like playing on the stage. One very rich man, he is, in a drama, he is playing the part of a very poor man. But actually, he is not poor man. But in the stage he is playing the part of a poor man. Similarly, Arjuna is not bewildered, but for the time being he appears to be bewildered by Krsna's maya, because Krsna wants to speak Bhagavad-gita, for the benefit of the whole world, that what is spiritual knowledge. Therefore this is a stage arrangement.

So pratikaram and apratikaram. Whatever we have manufactured, pratikaram, counteraction, that will be also failure if Krsna does not sanction it. That is realized by Prahlada Maharaja. He says "My dear Lord," Hiranyakasipu, that "people have manufactured so many pratikaram, counteraction." But tanu-bhrtam, "Those who have accepted this material body, they are simply manufacturing things to counteract dangers. But even though they have all this counteracting machine or counteracting agents, still, without Your sanction, this counteracting machine or agent will not be fruitful." So similarly, Arjuna is being protected by Krsna. So even though Arjuna is not well-equipped, apratikaram, still he will be saved. Because Krsna is there. Tavad vibho tanu-bhrtam tvad-upeksitanam. And even one is well-equipped and if Krsna does not like to save him, he'll not be saved. Always mind this. Rakse krsna mare ke, mare krsna rakse ke. This is ordinary, that if Krsna wants to kill you, nobody can save you. And if Krsna wants to save you, nobody can kill you. This is the position. So the examples are given by Prahlada Maharaja: balasya neha saranam pitarau nrsimha. "My Lord Nrsimhadeva, the parents of children, they are not actually protector of the children." Because generally we think that "This child, this boy has got his father, mother, he is well-protected." No. Father and mother... Every father and mother wants to protect the child, but still, the child has to meet some danger and dies. There are so many experience. Similarly, balasya neha saranam pitarau nrsimha. The father and mother is a counteraction for the dangers of the child. But Prahlada Maharaja said, "No, they are not counteraction." It is not that if a child is in danger, because the father and mother is very strong, very rich, he will be able to give protection to the child. No. That is not possible. Then nartasya cagadam. The medicine... A person is suffering from some disease, some fatal disease. If you think "I shall engage first-class physician and I shall supply first-class medicine," if you think, "Then the patient will be saved," no, that is not possible. That is not possible. We have got many experiences like that. Then no rich man would have died. Because he has got money, he can employ first-class physician, first-class medicine, and simply by engaging such things, counteracting, pratikaram, he cannot be saved. There are many examples like that. So the conclusion is tavad vibho tanu-bhrtam tvad-upeksitanam: "If You neglect, if You have decided that this person, this child cannot be saved, then any amount of pratikaram will not help, will not help."

Therefore real pratikaram is Krsna. Real pratikaram is Krsna, counteractive. So better we take shelter of Krsna as Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. You must always know that no counteraction will be beneficial for us unless we are protected by Krsna. So therefore our business is fully surrender to Krsna and seek His protection. Krsna says, "Yes," aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami, "I shall give you protection." This is Bhagavad-gita philosophy. We have to believe on the assertion of Krsna that "He is prepared to give me all protection, provided I have fully surrendered unto His lotus feet."

Thank you very much. (end)
 
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Sunday, February 10, 2013

Take Advantage of the Sastra

Take Advantage of the Sastra
Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.49
New Orleans, August 1, 1975

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Harikesa (leads chanting, etc.) Translation: "As a person in a dream while sleeping acts according to the body manifested in his dream, or accepts the body as himself, similarly, he identifies the present body as himself, which was acquired on account of past religious or irreligious life, and is not able to know of his past or future life."

Prabhupada:

yathajnas tamasa (yukta)
upaste vyaktam eva hi
na veda purvam aparam
nasta-janma-smrtis tatha
 [SB 6.1.49]

This is our position. This is our advancement of science, that we do not know "What I was before this life and what I shall become after this life?" Life is continuation. That is spiritual knowledge. But they do not know also even that life is continuation. They think, "By chance, I have got this life, and it will be finished after death. There is no question of past, present or future. Let us enjoy." This is called ignorance, tamasa, irresponsible life.

So ajnah. Ajnah means one who has no knowledge. And who has no knowledge? Now, tamasa. Those who are in the modes of ignorance. There are three kinds of material nature, modes: sattva, raja, tamas. Sattva-guna means everything is clear, prakasa. Just like now the sky is covered with cloud; the sunshine is not clear. But above the cloud there is sunshine, everything clear. And within the cloud there is not clear. Similarly, those who are in the sattva-guna, for them everything is clear, and those who are in the tamo-guna, everything is ignorance, and those who are mixed up, neither rajo-guna, neither tamo-guna, via media, they are called rajo-guna. Three gunas. Tamasa. So they are simply interested in the present body, does not care what is going to happen, and has no knowledge what he was before. There is another place it is described: nunam pramattah kurute vikarma [SB 5.5.4]. Pramattah, just like madman. He does not know why he has become mad. He forgets. And by his activities, what is going to happen next, he does not know. Madman.

So this civilization, modern civilization, is just like madman civilization. They have no knowledge of past life, neither they are interested in the future life. Nunam pramattah kurute vikarma [SB 5.5.4]. And fully engaged in sinful activities because they have no knowledge of the past life. Just like a dog. Why he has become dog, that he does not know and what he is going to have next? So a dog might have been in his past life the prime minister, but when he gets the dog's life, he forgets. That is also another influence of maya. Praksepatmika-sakti, avaranatmika-sakti. Maya has got two potencies. If somebody for his past sinful activities has become a dog, and if he remembers that "I was prime minister; now I have become dog," it will be impossible for him to live. Therefore maya covers his knowledge. Mrtyu. Mrtyu means forgetting everything. That is called mrtyu. So that we have got experience every day and night. When at night we dream in a separate atmosphere, separate life, we forget about this body, that "I am lying down. My body is lying down in a very nice apartment, very nice bedding." No. Suppose he is loitering on the street or he is on the hill. So he is taking, in dream, he is taking... Everyone, we take interest of that body. We forget the past body. So this is ignorance. So ignorance, the more we become elevated from ignorance to knowledge, that is success of life. And if we keep ourself in ignorance, that is no success. That is spoiling the life.

So our Krsna consciousness movement is to raise a person from ignorance to knowledge. That is the whole scheme of Vedic literature: to deliver a person. Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita about the devotees -- not for all -- tesam aham samuddharta mrtyu-samsara-sagarat [Bg. 12.7]. Another:

tesam evanukampartham
aham ajnana-jam tamah
nasayamy atma-bhavastho
jnana-dipena bhasvata
 [Bg. 10.11]

For special, for the devotees... He is situated in everyone's heart, but a devotee who is trying to understand Krsna He helps. He helps. To the nondevotees, they have no concern with the... They are just like animal -- eating, sleeping, sex life and defense. They do not care for anything, to understand God or his relationship with God. For them, they think there is no God, and Krsna also says, "Yes, there is no God. You sleep." That's all. Therefore sat-sanga required. This sat-sanga, satam prasangat. By the association of devotee we awaken our inquisitiveness about God. Therefore the centers are required. It is not unnecessarily we are opening so many centers. No. It is for the benefit of the human society. (aside:) You can... This fly...

Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission is that paropakara, benefit of the human society. All living entities within this material world, they are in ignorance, all 8,400,000 different forms of life. (aside:) This nearby come, the... Come near. Yes. This is specially meant for driving away the flies. (laughter) Yes. This camara is meant for that. Even it is touching body, there is no harm. So all living entities, they are ajnah; they have forgotten what is the value of life. So in the human form of life, where there is chance of getting the real light, if they spoil in this way like cats and dogs, the whole world, what is the position of the world? Very precarious condition. So paropakara. Therefore those who have got enlightenment, they should try to raise these rascals who are in ignorance. That is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission. Caitanya Mahaprabhu therefore says, bharata-bhumite manusya janma haila jara: "Anyone who has taken birth in Bharata-varsa, India, as human being, not cats and dogs," janma sarthaka kari, "first of all make your life successful," then paropakara, "then distribute the knowledge." This is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission. How? Why He is stressing on Indian? Now, because it is in India you will find these sastras, the Bhagavad-gita and Srimad-Bhagavatam and many others, not in other places. The four Vedas; then the explanation of the Vedas, Upanisad; summarization of the Vedas, Vedanta-sutra; then historically explanation, Puranas; then actual history, Mahabharata, Ramayana -- so these things are available in India. And one should take advantage of this sastra and make his life successful and then preach all over the world.

So in this parampara system, this knowledge has come to your country, America. You are intelligent. You are prosperous. So take this knowledge seriously and at least distribute this knowledge properly for the benefit of your people. Otherwise the world is in very, very precarious condition, and although the human form of life is obtained for the success of life, they are being kept purposefully all ignorantly in darkness. So, na veda purvam aparam nasta-janma-smrtis tatha. Just like Bharata Maharaja, he was a great devotee, but somehow or other, he was very much attached to one, a small deer. He had to accept the body of a deer. But he did not forget about his last birth. That is special prerogative for advanced devotees. Nature's law is that at the time of death, what you think, you get the body. That is nature's law. Yam yam vapi smaran bhavam tyajaty ante kalevaram [Bg. 8.6], Krsna says. So we have to train up our bhava, our thoughts. If we keep always in Krsna thoughts, then naturally at the time of death we may remember Krsna. That is success. Then immediately tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti [Bg. 4.9]. Immediately you are transferred to the Krsnaloka, and according to your desire, you become amongst the gopis or the cowherds boys or the cows and the calves. They are all equal. There is no... That is spiritual world. Here there is difference between the man, woman, cows, or trees, or flowers. No. In the spiritual world there is no such difference. The flower is also devotee, living. The flower wants to serve Krsna as flower. The calf wants to serve Krsna as calf. The gopis want to serve Krsna as gopi. They are all the same, but according to the varieties -- yesterday I was speaking of the variety -- varieties of desires to serve Krsna... So that is spiritual world. And material world? The same varieties are there, imitation, but everyone wants to satisfy sense gratification. There is no desire for serving Krsna. That is the difference between material world and the spiritual world. In the spiritual world all the varieties are there, and they are all spirit. There is no touch of matter. They are all conscious. When the flower is there in the hand of Krsna, in the lotus hand, he is conscious. He is enjoying that "I wanted to serve Krsna as flower; now I am enjoying." That is spiritual. They are all conscious. So in this way we shall keep ourself always Krsna conscious. Then, even though we fall down just like Bharata Maharaja fell down, became... He lost one birth. He became too much attached to that animal. He forgot his daily routine work. And the description is there in the, I think, which canto? What?
Devotee: Fifth Canto.

Prabhupada: Fifth Canto. He became always attached to that. Therefore the nature's punishment was that he had to accept the body of a deer. But he was conscious, not that nasta-janma-smrtih. He did not forget what he was. He understood that "I was engaged in advancing in spiritual consciousness. Unnecessarily I became attached to this animal. Now I have got this animal body." So he was keeping himself always with the devotees. That was his advantage. Then the next life he again took birth in a brahmana family, and he remained just like a dull. He was very much afraid to mix with the society so that he may not be misled. Therefore his name was Jada Bharata. Jada means dull. People used to think him as the dull-headed fool. But he was conscious of his position. He kept himself like that. Then Rahugana, the King Rahugana, understood that "He is keeping himself as dull, but he is most intelligent, advanced in spiritual consciousness," and there was talk. And so, in next birth Bharata Maharaja, Jada Bharata, got his salvation.

So we shall be very much cautious so that we do not forget our responsibility. Nasta-janma-smrtih, it is not good. Nasta-janma. We must be responsible that "We have got this birth," labdhva su-durlabham bahu-sambhavante, "after many, many births, after much suffering in so many species of life, one after another, one after an..." And unfortunately, the people are so dull-headed, they do not care for it. But this is the most important subject matter of life. So those who are devotees of Krsna, they should take charge, that "These rascals are suffering. Let them have some idea about Krsna." That is wanted. This is Krsna consciousness movement. So I am very glad that you are seriously interested, and Krsna is pleased upon you. And that you are sincerely trying, I can understand from these tulasi plants. Yes. This is the practical demonstration. Unless there is bhakti, this tulasi plant will not grow. We must be very much thankful to our Govinda dasi. She first of all cultivated the tulasi plant in Hawaii. And now our tulasi plants are distributed. So she has done a great service. I think I gave her the seeds, and she very nicely done it. Now everywhere we see tulasi plant. It is very pleasing. So the same thing -- Deity worship and watering the tulasi plants, chanting sixteen rounds at least, and observing the rules and regulation, regulative principle... Then your life is successful. Don't neglect. Very seriously continue. And in this one life you are going back to home, back to Godhead. It is sure. I am not flattering you. Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru, mam evaisyasi asamsayah [Bg. 18.65]. Asamsayah, "Without any doubt, simply following these rules and regulation," mam evaisyasi, "you come back to Me."

So take these words of Krsna, guru-Krsna. The guru will also..., the same thing, what Krsna has said. And follow the principles. Your life is successful. Now, this place I see, although I have not seen all, is a nice place. And the grhasthas may come here, have some small cottage, and grow your own food grains, vegetables, and have your cow's milk. Get nice foodstuff, save time. Why should you go in the city, hundred miles in car and again hundred miles come back and take unnecessary trouble? Stick to this spot and grow your own food, your own cloth, and live peacefully, save time, chant Hare Krsna. Very nice program. This is actual life. What is this nonsense life, big, big cities and always people busy? If he wants to see one friend, he has to go thirty miles. If he has to see a physician, he has to go fifty miles. If he has to go to work, another hundred miles. So what is this life? This is not life. Be satisfied. The devotee's life should be yavad artha-prayojanam. We require material necessities as much as it is required, no artificial life. That is spiritual life. Simply increasing artificial life, even for shaving, a big machine is required. What is this? Simply wasting time. Devil's workshop. Make life very simple. And simple living, high thinking, and always conscious to go back to home, back to Krsna. That is life. Not this life, that simply machine, machine, machine, machine. So if you show practical example that how you are living simple life and how you are advanced in Krsna consciousness, then people will learn from you. You American people, if you show example, people will try to follow you, and they will be happy. So I am very glad to see this farm. Develop it nicely, live peacefully, and chant Hare Krsna.

Thank you very much.

Devotees: Jaya Srila Prabhupada. (end)
 
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Friday, March 4, 2011

"Divisions Of Human Society"

66/08/01 New York, Bhagavad-gita 4.13-14


Prabhupada:

...maya srstam
guna-karma-vibhagasah
tasya kartaram api mam
viddhy akartaram avyayam

This verse was being discussed in our last meeting, that there are four divisions of men in the human society, and that division is natural. That is not artificial because the whole material nature is working under the influence of three modes of nature: goodness, passion and ignorance. You cannot classify the whole human race into one. So long we are in the material world, it is not possible to make everyone on the same standard. It is not possible because each and everyone is working under the influence of different modes of nature. Therefore there must be division, natural division. This point we have discussed.

But when we transcend this material plane, then there is oneness. There is no more division. Then how to transcend? That transcendental nature is Krsna consciousness. As soon as we become fully absorbed in Krsna consciousness, we are transcendental to these material modes of nature.

mam ca yo 'vyabhicarena
bhakti-yogena sevate
sa gunan samatityaitan
brahma-bhuyaya kalpate
[Bg. 14.26]

You'll find in the Bhagavad-gita, in the Fourteenth Chapter: "Anyone who is fully engaged in the Krsna consciousness activities, he is at once in the transcendental position."

Brahma-bhuyaya kalpate. We are, by nature, we are not matter. We are Brahman. Aham brahmasmi. The propaganda of Sankaracarya was mainly based on this understanding, that "We should not think that we are the products of this material nature." We are not products of material nature. It is by some accident, by freaks of nature, by misfortune or some way or other, we are now in contact with it. But actually I am spirit, Brahman. So that Brahman nature has to be invoked, has to be...

We are... Actually, just like a diseased person, he has to be brought into the healthy condition of life, to cure the disease. So just a man, when he's diseased and when he's healthy, from external feature, the same. Just like I am now healthy. So my external feature -- I have got two hands and two legs and face and so many things -- the same body, when I am in the diseased condition, you'll find the same hands, the same legs and mouth and everything, but the condition is different. I'll speak something nonsense because the condition has changed in the diseased condition. Similarly, in our diseased condition... This material life is our diseased condition.

So when we are in the healthy condition, that is called Brahman. That is called Brahman condition, healthy. So that Brahman condition can at once be regained as soon as we engaged ourself fully, cent percent, in the activities of Krsna consciousness. That is clearly mentioned in the Bhagavad-gita, in the Fourteenth Chapter you'll find. Mam ca yah avyabhicarena bhakti-yogena sevate: "Anyone who renders the transcendental loving service unto Me," sa gunan samatitya etan, "that person immediately transcends the modes of material nature." Samatitya. Sama. Samyag atitya, "perfectly transcending." Samatitya.

Then, transcending the material nature, then he becomes zero? No. That is the real nature. Now, the philosophy which preaches that "After our liberation, after nirvana of this material existence, there is zero," oh, that is very dangerous theory because we are not attracted by zero. That is our nature, living entity. Now, suppose I am suffering from some disease and there are so many ailments, and if some doctor comes: "Oh, let me finish your ailments by killing you," oh, will you agree? You'll say, "No, no, better let me suffer from the disease. I don't want to be killed." Is it not? Will you agree? Suppose you have got too much suffering, miseries of life, and I suggest, "All right, let me cut your throat and kill you, and everything will be finished." "Oh, no, no, no, I'm not agreeable to that." That is the sane man's statement. "Oh, I am not going to be killed for ending my miseries." That is the nature. So the theory that "After making end of all these material miseries, there is nothing, void," oh, that is not attractive. That is not attractive at all.

And that is not the fact. Real fact is that I am sac-cid-ananda-vigraha [Bs. 5.1], part and parcel of the Supreme. The Supreme Lord is sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, and I am qualitatively one with Him. I am also, although I am small... Just like a particle of the sea water, that is also salty. That is also salty. The taste of a small drop of sea water is the same as the taste of the big, vast, big ocean of the, Atlantic Ocean. So the quality is the same. Similarly, I may be small. I may be a spiritual atom. My position is that I am spiritual atom, and the Supreme Spirit is all, the greatest, but that does not mean I am different from the quality. I am of the same quality. So I am not void. Na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20].

If by frustration one commits suicide, oh, that is not the end of his miseries. He creates another misery. He creates another misery by committing suicide. Just like here, in the state law, if somebody attempts suicide and takes some poison, and if by treatment of the physician he's all right, he's again under the law, to be punished. Perhaps you know it. After curing him from that poisonous effect, he is under criminal code of the state: "Why you have attempted suicide?" Similarly, in the laws of nature, if you commit suicide, that is another criminal act. So suicidal policy, to end this misery of life, is not all. We must have, I mean to say, greater life.

In the Bhagavad-gita you have read -- already we have discussed -- param drstva nivartate. Param drstva nivartate: "One has to end this miserable life after finding out a life of bliss and knowledge and eternity." That should be our... We should not be trying only to end these miseries of life, expecting something void. No. Therefore Lord Krsna... This catur-varnyam maya srstam [Bg. 4.13], these divisions of human society, is created by the Lord because to elevate ourself from the clutches of this deluding maya, or illusion. So just like one has to be educated from the lower class to the postgraduate class, similarly, this division of labor is there just to elevate one from the lowest stage of consciousness to the highest stage of Krsna consciousness. So that is a cooperation. That is a cooperation.

Just like my body. My body, there are different parts of my body. The head is the most important part of my body. The next important part is my arms. The next important part is my belly. And the next important part is my legs. But although the head is the most important part of my body, there is no question of neglecting the lowest part of my body, the legs. Similarly, although there are divisions in the human society, four divisions, according to the different modes of nature... The highest class is called the brahmana, or the most intellectual class. And the next class is called the ksatriya, just the administrative class. And the next is the vaisya, or the mercantile, productive class. And the next is the sudras, or the laborer class. So all of them, they are required. But if they cooperate for Krsna consciousness, so there is no strife between these higher and lower classes.

We find in the present social, I mean to say, status of our life, we are actually existing in four divisions, but there is no cooperation. Practically, everyone is dissatisfied. Take for example the strife between the capitalist class and the laborer class. They, they are trying in different way. There is no compromise. There is always friction. And especially in a country like India, oh, there is always friction, and other countries also. So they are not satisfied. Recently also, in your country also, there was strike by the bus drivers and the subway drivers and administration. So there is always strike. Why? This is due to lack of Krsna consciousness. This is due to lack of Krsna consciousness. There cannot be any cooperation unless there is Krsna consciousness. So Krsna consciousness is an essential fact for harmonizing even the present material society. That is required. Krsna consciousness is so important thing, that cooperation...

The same example can be said here also, that the leg, the hands, and the belly and the mouth -- what they are? They are cooperating. Cooperating for what? Cooperating for maintaining this body. This is the common interest. And how it is cooperated? To supply everything to the stomach. The brain is working, earning some money, the hand is fetching something and cooking, and the mouth is chewing, and the leg is going, but the whole function is targeted to fulfill the demands of the stomach. If these parts of the body non-cooperate with the stomach, they'll become feeble and weak and there will be no capacity to work.

Similarly, Krsna consciousness means that in whatever division I may be... I may be the brahmana, I may be the ksatriya, I may be the vaisya, or the sudra. That doesn't matter. But if we cooperate for Krsna consciousness, there will be perfect peace in the world. This is a fact. So this idea of Krsna consciousness is very important factor, although people are, I mean to say, they are unknown to this fact, although it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita.

In the world, Bhagavad-gita is very popular book. They are reading Bhagavad-gita. And in Dr. Radhakrishnan's book we understand that Bhagavad-gita has been so important book throughout the whole world that there is a sect in Germany who are called Indo-German religious sect. Perhaps some of you may know. They are acting on the principle of Bhagavad-gita. So actually, in the Bhagavad-gita, the most important part is Krsna consciousness. In every verse, in every chapter, in every conclusion, you'll find Krsna, the speaker of Bhagavad-gita is giving stress on His personal self.

Mam hi partha vyapasritya ye 'pi syuh... [Bg. 9.32]. Mam, this mam. Mam means "Me," "Unto Me." Krsna says, "Unto Me." But there are many miscreants who are interpreting this mam as "everyone," as "everyone." Just like when I say, "I want a glass of water," does it mean that you want a glass of water? No. My individuality, "I want a glass of water." But they are making, by jugglery of words, that when I say, "I want a glass of water," that means, "everyone wants a glass of water." Is it a fact? Similarly, when Krsna says, "I," they identify with the "I" themselves. That is their interpretation. That is misinterpretation.

Bhagavad-gita... Therefore, although Bhagavad-gita is very popular in the world, due to this misinterpretation of so many scholars, they have been not properly understood. That is a fact. The Bhagavad-gita explains, very nicely explains, that this catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [Bg. 4.13], that this division of human society into four classes, that is established by Krsna. But He is out of it. He's not one of us. He does not belong to this catur-varnyam. Suppose when Krsna comes in incarnation, in His body, it does not mean that He belongs to either of these classes, either to the brahmanas...

Just like Krsna appeared Himself as the son of Devaki or Vasudeva. Vasudeva was belonging to the royal family, ksatriya. So Krsna played the part just like a ksatriya. Ksatriya means administrative class. But that does not mean that Krsna belongs to the ksatriya class. It is to be understood. There are dasa-avataras. There are many incarnations of Krsna. Just like the first avatara, incarnation, is called Matsyavatara.

pralaya-payodhi-jale dhrtavan asi vedam
vihita-vahitra-caritram akhedam
kesava dhrta-mina-sarira jaya jagadisa hare

Kesava, Krsna, appeared just like a fish. He appeared Himself in the fish community. Oh, but that does not mean that He was fish. If you say, if you think that, taking a fish, "Oh, it is the generation of Krsna..." Of course, everything is Krsna, from another point of view.

So similarly, Krsna... Because in the previous verse we have discussed. Simply by knowing the transcendental nature of Krsna, one becomes liberated. How you can understand Krsna? By His transcendental nature. That is being described in this verse. Tasya kartaram api. Tasya kartaram api mam viddhi: "Although I have established these divisions of the human society into four classes, so I am not one of them." This has to be understood. Means as soon as we make it a mistake that "Oh, Krsna, He appeared in the royal family of Vasudeva, so He belonged to the ksatriya community, or the administrative class," no. Then you can understand the transcendental nature of Krsna.

And if you have got any doubt, you can ask, you can understand. But as soon as you understand it rightly, you become a liberated person. That is the secret. As soon as you understand the fact as it is, the transcendental nature of Krsna, oh, you step forward to your liberation. So similarly, these things are being described one after another. The next sloka,

na mam karmani limpanti
na me karma-phale sprha
iti mam yo 'bhijanati
karmabhir na sa badhyate
[Bg. 4.14]

Just see. Na mam karmani limpanti. Karmani. Just like we are acting something. Anything we are doing, there is some reaction. There is some reaction. In every action there is some reaction.

Just like I am speaking here. This vibration is being recorded all over the universe, this sound vibration. You know the radio message, how it is transmitted in the modern world. Similarly, as I am speaking, so whatever I am doing, that is immediately recorded and there will be some reaction. Just like the sound vibration, it reacts who has got some radio machine, there is reacting, similarly, every, any action, either good action or bad action, it will have reaction. That is the law of nature. You cannot be free from the reaction of my action.

But here Krsna says, na mam karmani limpanti. There is no reaction of the activities of Krsna. Just like Krsna was commanding over Arjuna in the battlefield of Kuruksetra, and practically He was ordering that "You must fight. You must kill the enemy." Now, this act of Krsna's has no reaction on Him. One should understand it. Na mam karmani limpanti.

If there is any difficulty to understand, we may consult persons who are in the understanding. We may consult books. We may consult authorities. That we can do because inquiry is always allowed. Tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya [Bg. 4.34]. The, I mean to say, the transcendental inquiry is never forbidden. A sincere person, one can make inquiry. But fact is this. If I cannot understand in my present condition, that is my misunderstanding. But the fact is this that Krsna, when He comes, He is not any, like any one of us. He's transcendental. Neither any act which He does, it has got reaction. And He says, na me karma-phale sprha, "I have no desire for any fruitive activities."

Just like we want to do something. Suppose I want to do some business. And what is the idea? Because I want to make some profit out of the business, and if there is sufficient profit, I shall be gainer, I shall be rich man, I shall be able to enjoy life and so on, so on, so many things, I have got background. So I have my desires whenever I do something. We conditioned souls, whenever we do something, there is some desire behind it. And what is that desire? For enjoyment. That's all.

But Krsna says, na me karma-phale sprha. Because He has nothing to desire. He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He is full with everything. Now, sometimes Krsna is misunderstood that Krsna, in His boyhood, He had so many girlfriends. Perhaps you may know, who has written, gone through Krsna's life. Or in His youthhood, He married sixteen thousand wives. This is described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. He had 16,108 wives. So sometimes who does not understand Krsna, they think, "Oh, Krsna was so sensuous. Oh, He kept sixteen thousand wives." No, that is not the fact. What was the fact? The fact is Krsna, the Supreme Lord... We have got different relationship with the Supreme Lord constitutionally, every one of us.

The relationship, as we experience in this material world... Just like you are my brother, or she is my sister, or he is my father, he is my, so many relationship we have got. So all these relationships are calculated into five. There are... Practically, there are twelve relationships. Seven relationships are contra, against. Just like you are my enemy. I want to kill you. You want to kill me. That is also one of the relationships, but this is contra. This is not favorable. This is called vivarta. Hasya, something I see in you, I begin to laugh, or something you see in me, you begin to laugh. So there are different... Altogether, there are twelve relationships in every activities of our life. Out of that, five relationships is very favorable. Not five exactly, but... Yes, five.

Just like I am sitting here on this dais. So I have got some relationship. What is that relationship? That this dais is giving me service silently. There is relationship. I am comfortably sitting here. So this is one relationship. The next relationship is that one wants to serve me or I want to serve him. Out of love, I want... Oh. Just like some of you: "Swamiji, I have brought some fruits for you." This is out of love. That means you want to serve me. So this relationship with the dais and that relationship, to come, and that relationship, to come and bring forth some fruit for me, that is higher. That is called dasya, or friendship. So the silent relationship, the servitude relationship, the friendly relationship, then paternal relationship, then conjugal relationship.

So these relationships which we find here in this material world, they are reflections of the original relationship with Krsna. Because in the Vedanta-sutra you find, janmady asya yatah: [SB 1.1.1] "Everything, whichever you find in this material world, that is born from the Absolute Truth." So in the Absolute Truth, there is the relationships, these relationships, which we are experiencing here. But they are perverted. Perverted. Because suppose I accept somebody as master, and I am serving, and as soon as the salary stops, my service is also stopped. Therefore it is perverted. Or I am... There is a girl I love, or there is a man I love. Oh, as soon as there is some misunderstanding, we break. So that relationship, that conjugal relationship, that paternal relationship, that friendly relationship.

Just like you'll find in the Bhagavad-gita that Krsna and Arjuna, they are in relationship of friendship. Now, when Krsna, when Krsna says that "I told this yoga, Bhagavad-gita yoga to the sun-god, say, some millions of years before," and Arjuna, just to represent our interest, he said, "Oh, Krsna, You are my contemporary. How is that You spoke Bhagavad-gita forty millions of years before to sun-god?" So Krsna answered that bahuni me janmani tava carjuna: "Both you and Myself, we were born many times, but you have forgotten. I remember." That is the distinction.

Now, here we see that the friendship of Krsna is going on not in this birth, but perpetually that friendship is there. But in the material world, the friendship, it will exist for few years and then break. Therefore it is reflection. It is not real. If you make your friendship with Krsna, that will never break. If you make your master Krsna, you'll never be cheated. If you love Krsna as your son, He'll never die. Similarly, if you love Krsna as your lover or husband, He will be the best husband, the best lover. There will be no divorce. That is Krsna consciousness. So similarly, there are many... Because Krsna is the Supreme Lord, He has unlimited... He is unlimited, and He has unlimited number of devotees. Now, some of them are trying to love Him as lover or husband.

Now, what Krsna will do? In the previous verse we have read that ye yatha mam prapadyante tams tathaiva bhajamy aham: [Bg. 4.11] "Anyone who wants Me in some sort of relationship, I accept that. I accept that." So the fact is that these wives of Krsna -- that is the real fact -- in their previous life they made tremendous penance to achieve Krsna as their husband. Just like in the Bhagavata there is a verse. Sukadeva Gosvami's describing... These things are very sublime things. Of course, if you kindly hear them attentively, you'll feel sublime pleasure undoubtedly.

In the Bhagavata, when Krsna was playing with boys... Just like boys play, Krsna, when He was playing just like a boy... So the Sukadeva Gosvami describes that attitude: ittham satam brahma-sukhanubhutya dasyam gatanam para-daivatena. The purport is that, that "Here is a thing, these boys, these boys who are playing with Krsna, that for many, many lives they undergone penances to have Krsna as their playmate. Now they are enjoying life." So the playmates of Krsna, they are not ordinary persons. They underwent many, many births' tapasya, or penances. Just like one has to seek the favor of the Supreme Lord by penances, by tapasya, so they desired like that, and Krsna has accepted, "All right. Come on. Let us play." And what is that play? Krsna is playing with the boys just like boys play. They say, sometimes make some one body's defeated. So when the, he became, he has to carry the other boy on his shoulder, so many manufactured playing things.

So similarly, sometimes Krsna was being defeated. So He has to carry other boy on His shoulder. These things were being done. Because we have no idea of Krsna consciousness, therefore we take it as trifling. But Krsna consciousness is so sublime that all perfection of our desires are there. Whatever we are desiring, whatever desires we have got constitutionally, all those desires will be perfectly fulfilled when we are in Krsna consciousness. You see? So Krsna, here He says that na me karma-phale sprha. Krsna did not require any friend to play with Him.

Neither Krsna had any desire of having a single wife. We require wife. Why do we take the responsibility of wife? Because we have got some desire to fulfill. That's all. But He is complete in Himself, purna. A poor man can desire that "Oh, if I would have bank balance, say, one thousand dollars in the bank, I would have been happy." But a rich man, who has got millions of dollars in the bank, does he desire for one hundred dollars in the bank? He has no such desire.

Similarly, if Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, why He should have desire for His? He is full. Rather, He fulfills others' desires. That is the thing. "Man proposes; God disposes." Why God should have desire? Otherwise He's imperfect. So Krsna has... Here He says, na me karma-phale sprha: "Oh, I have no desire to fulfill." Because He is full. Whatever He wants... Parasya sakti... In the Vedic literature, you'll find. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate, svabhaviki jnana-bala-kriya ca [Cc. Madhya 13.65, purport]. The Supreme Brahman, He has got different, diverse energies. As soon as He desires, everything is done immediately.

If I have to manufacture this stand, oh, I'll have to arrange for so many things. I'll have to go to the brass smith and ask him and give him some money and so many things. But the parasya saktir... If I have got... Even a, even a yogi, even a yogi, there is a prapti-siddhi. You have heard the name of yoga. The yoga system is not so plaything as we have got so many branches in America. They are playthings.

Actually, the yoga system is so perfect that they get eight kinds of perfection before achieving the real perfection. And what is that perfection, the eight kinds of...? Anima, laghima-siddhi, prapti, isita, vasita, like that. Anima-siddhi means when a yogi is, is not exactly perfect, when he's on the way of perfection, he gets this opportunity. He becomes... He can become the smallest. If you pack a yogi in a room and lock him, he'll come out. He'll come out.

In Benares, India, there was a Trailinga Swami, yogi. He was sitting on the street naked. So government took objection, "Oh, you are sitting... It is obscene. You cannot." "Oh, I'll sit." Then he was put into the custody. So he came out. He was locked. That is not a very old story, say, about hundred years before, that Trailinga Swami. So thrice, four times, he was put into the custody, and he came out. So this is the first siddhi, first perfection.

Similarly, a yogi also, if he wants... Perhaps I cited this story. In my childhood I had my teacher and he had his spiritual master, a great yogi. So my teacher used to narrate the story of his spiritual master, that one day he went to the spiritual master, and the spiritual master asked him, "Well, what do you want to eat?" And they replied that "I want fresh pomegranates from Afghanistan." "All right, sit." So in the room they saw the, a branch of pomegranates just with juices just like somebody has snatched the branch from the tree, and it was there. Yogis, they can perform such wonderful things. If I want this thing, I have to endeavor for it, but a yogi can at once make it. These are some of the preliminary perfections of yogi.

So Krsna is called Yogesvara. He is the... You'll find in the Bhagavad-gita, He's described as Yogesvara. He's the master of all yogic principles. So for Him, why there shall be desire for enjoyment. He's so perfect that He hasn't got to marry, He hasn't got to keep a girlfriend. He's so perfect. So this is the nature of Krsna we have to understand. Then why He married? He married just to fulfill the desires of His devotees. Those devotees who wanted Krsna as their husband, so He accepted them. And when He played the part of a husband, He played very perfectly. Just like when He played the part of a friend, of the boyfriend, He played it very perfectly. When He played the part of a small boy of Yasoda, He played it perfectly.

Just like He was creating disturbances, when He was, say, three years old. Just like children, two year, two years old, they create always disturbance with mother. They don't leave the company of mother. At the same time, they create disturb. So Krsna was doing that. Now, the mother decided, "Now, I shall bind You with ropes. You are creating so much disturbance." And he took, she took a stick, and: "If You create disturbance, then I'll beat You." Oh, Krsna began to cry. So there is description in the Bhagavata by Kunti that "The person who is the object of frightening for everyone, He was afraid of the stick of Yasoda." Why? He was perfectly playing the childhood.

So this is the Krsna's life. So one has to understand this thing. He was not need. Here just exactly the same thing, as He says, that na me karma-phale sprha: "I have no desire. I no..." Why He shall be desire? He is full. Desire, a needy person has desire. But a man who is full, why he shall be desire? Na mam karmani limpanti na me ka... iti mam yo 'bhijanati [Bg. 4.14].

Now, just to... I have tried to explain a little portion of the Krsna's activities. When He appeared in this world, He showed His activities just to attract us, that "You are frustrated in friendship? Come on. Make friendship with Me. Oh, you are frustrated in getting a good master? Come on. Serve Me. I am, I become your good master. Oh, you are frustrated in the love of your sons? Oh, have Me as your son." Because here we are frustrated with our sons and daughters. We expect something, but when they are grown up, they go in their own way. We are frustrated.

So accept Krsna as son, and He'll be most obedient son just like He was playing the part before Yasoda. Similarly, accept Krsna as husband or lover. You'll never be frustrated. That is the whole philosophy. Anything, whatever desire you have got, you can establish a relationship with Krsna in that desire and you'll be happy, perfectly happy, never to be cheated. So na mam karma... iti mam yo 'bhijanati. Anyone who understands this philosophy, this transcendental nature of Krsna, then what is the result? Karmabhir na sa badhyate. Because every act... We are bound up by the reaction of our past deeds. So as soon as we understand the transcendental activities of Krsna, at once we become free from all reactions.

Because I cannot understand Krsna's transcendental activities unless I am actually dovetailed with Krsna. Why I shall be interested with your activities unless I have got some specific purpose? So similarly, let us develop this Krsna consciousness and gradually we shall have... Now, that is called svarupa-siddhi. Now, every living entity has got an eternal relationship with Krsna because we are part and...

Just like my parts and part of the body, it has got a specific relationship with my body. Just like this hand is the part and parcel of my body. It has got a specific position in the body. My ear is the part and parcel of my body. It has got a specific position in this.

Similarly, every living entity has got a specific position in relationship with Krsna. Now, at the present moment, we are covered. We do not know what is our relationship. But as we make advance in Krsna consciousness and we develop, "Oh, I have got this relationship with my Krsna, as my, as a friend, as a conjugal lover, paternal relationship, master and servant," so many, just like we have got experience. And that is called svarupa-siddhi. Svarupa-siddhi means perfection of one's original, constitutional position. Svarupa-siddhi. That we shall realize. As we make advance in the Krsna consciousness, so we gradually...

Just like a man who is diseased. He is diseased, and as he is being cured by treatment, he gets gradually his healthy condition. He can feel, "Yes, I am feeling well. Now I am feeling hunger. Now I am taking food nicely. Oh, yes, I am getting some strength." Similarly, as we make progress in the matter of Krsna consciousness, then our original constitutional position becomes revealed. And as soon it is fully revealed, I am free from all these material obligations. Oh, my place is reserved there.

Thank you very much. Now if there is any question, you can ask. [break] ...become the smallest, anima-siddhi. And the laghima-siddhi. Laghima-siddhi is you can become the lightest. You become so light that you can walk over the water. You can fly in the air. That is laghima-siddhi. Prapti-siddhi. Prapti-siddhi means you can get anything you desire immediately. Isita. Isita means you can have control over so many persons and anything you want to control. You can get that. Vasita. There are so many siddhis. But these siddhis are, according to, I mean to say, those who are after Krsna consciousness... They do not care for all these siddhis.

I'll cite one story, interesting story, that one person, he was out of home for ten years, and he went to the Himalayas to find out some yogi to get some perfection. Now, after ten years, that particular man came back to his village. That is quite natural, that any person who achieves some success, he wants to show it before his friends and relatives and countrymen. That is quite natural. So he came back to his village, and all the villagers, they assembled, and they were very much anxious to know: "Oh, my dear friend, you have been ten years to learn yoga perfections. So what you have learned, please let us know." So he said that "I am finished the laghima-siddhi perfection. That means I have learned how to become the lightest." And what is the result? He said, "Oh, I can walk over the river." So everyone was very anxious because people are very inquisitive and curious. So all of them requested him, "All right, let us have some demonstration. Please show that you'll walk over the river." So there were, all the villagers came and requested him. "All right, I shall show tomorrow morning."

So there was an old man. He said, "My dear such-and-such, oh, after working for ten years, you have learned something who is two cents worth." Oh, that man was very angry. "Oh, it is two cent worth, do you think?" "Yes, I think it is two cent worth." "Why?" "Now because you'll walk over the river. All right. But I shall pay to the boatman two cents. I shall walk over the river." (laughter)

So these things are two cents worth in comparison to Krsna consciousness. Don't be after them. Suppose you'll learn something to play wonderful. What you'll do with that? How it will help you? Your problem is how to get out this, get out of this material entanglement. Suppose if you play something wonderful in the... There are so many wonderful men here. They are showing. So a man who is after Krsna consciousness, they are not after these wonderful things. Because they know it perfectly well that "All this display will not save me." What is that? If I get anything I desire? That may be something wonderful for you, but how do I benefit. Oh, what I want here? I want simply to get myself, get free from these miseries of material existence. That can be done only by Krsna consciousness. Not by playing all these wonderful...

So one who is serious about Krsna consciousness, all these wonderful things, they do not captivate. You see? For them, two cents worth. Two cents. Suppose you can fly in the air. What is that? A rich man pay something to the aeroplane and, say, hundred dollars. He can fly from one place to another. Modern science, modern, has made everything cheap. So don't be after this perfection, material perfection. Any kind of material perfection will not solve our real problem. Our real problem is how to get rid of this material entanglement, the threefold miseries, birth after birth, I am going, repeating transmigration of, repetition of, getting one birth after... These are the problems.

So Krsna says, tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti kaunteya: [Bg. 4.9] "After leaving this body, no more birth in this miserable world. He comes unto Me." We should stick to that point. And that will make us successful in our Krsna consciousness. Anything, any more questions? [break] ...very ideal prayer to follow. What to ask from Krsna? That is the goal of every living being. What is that? He says,

na dhanam na janam na sundarim
kavitam va jagad-isa kamaye
mama janmani janmanisvare
bhavatad bhaktir ahaituki tvayi
[Cc. Antya 20.29, Siksastaka 4]

Lord Caitanya prays, "My Lord, Jagadisvara..." Jagadisvara means the Lord of the Universe. "I pray unto You. I don't want any wealthy condition. I don't want any wealth." Na dhanam. Dhanam means wealth. Na janam. "I don't want any number of followers." Here, in this material existence, we aspire after money, after followers and after woman. That is... These are our desires. And Lord Caitanya says that, "I don't want wealth. I don't want any number of followers, neither I want any beautiful wife." Then what is the use of your coming to God? Oh, mama janmani janmanisvare bhavatad bhaktir ahaituki [Cc. Antya 20.29, Siksastaka 4]. "I simply pray that birth af... I do not think that in this very birth I will be liberated. Even there is my birth, I don't mind. But let me have Your unconditional service. That's all."

That should be the standard of prayer. The more we shall have wonderful things in the material world, the more we shall be entangled. We are just trying to get free from this entanglement and go back to Krsna, where going I'll have no more to come back in this miserable world. That should be the aim and object of life.

Suppose if I decided, or anyone of you have decided, that "I shall leave this place, New York. I have no fascination for this city." Then anything you offer him, "Oh, I give you such-and-such thing. You remain here for such-and-su..." No. He doesn't care for anything. Param drstva nivartate. He has got some information, some other place. He has decided to go there. So he has no, I mean to say, anxiety or desire for anything. So our desire should be -- that is perfect desire -- that we must leave this body. We must leave this material existence. Duhkhalayam asasvatam [Bg. 8.15]. Unless you understand this fact, that this material existence is... (end -- incomplete)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 4.13-14 -- New York, August 1, 1966

Monday, November 1, 2010

"Krsna's Order Is Final"

73/08/01 London, Bhagavad-gita 1.45-46



yadi mam apratikaram
asastram sastra-panayah
dhartarastra rane hanyus
tan me ksemataram bhavet
[Bg. 1.45]

sanjaya uvaca
evam uktvarjunah sankhye
rathopastha upavisat
visrjya sa-saram capam
soka-samvigna-manasah
[Bg. 1.46]

Translation: "I would consider it better for the sons of Dhrtarastra to kill me unarmed and unresisting, rather than fight with them."

"Sanjaya said: Arjuna, having thus spoken on the battlefield, cast aside his bow and arrows and sat down on the chariot, his mind overwhelmed with grief."

Prabhupada: Yadi mam apratikaram asastram sastra-panayah. It is the custom between the ksatriyas that in the fighting, if the other party hasn't got weapon to fight, this party will supply him weapon, not that the other party without weapon and this party will take opportunity to kill him. This is not the rules and regulation of fighting. There are many rules and regulation of the fighting. Not that "Because he is my enemy, I shall kill him any way." No. There are rules and regulations. If the enemy has broken his chariot, he is fallen down on the ground, the other party also will immediately get down from the chariot. Suppose he is feeling... If one is on the foot and another on the chariot, so he will be in superior position. So therefore the opposite party must also get down from the chariot and walk with him. That means the defeated enemy should be given all opportunities so he may not think that unnecessarily, in weak position, he has been killed. No. So Arjuna says... Arjuna, of course, did later on. When he killed Karna. Karna was without weapon, and he fell down from the chariot. Karna, after falling down from the chariot, and he was trying to raise the wheel of the chariot from the mud, so Krsna asked Arjuna "That this is the opportunity to kill him. You kill him immediately." So at that time he had no weapons and he fell down from the chariot, and in that position he was killed by Arjuna by the order of Krsna. This is violating the laws.

So you can violate the laws on the order of Krsna. You cannot do. This is surrender. When Krsna says that "You do this," although it is wrong, you have to do it. There is no consideration. Just like in fight, the commander says to the soldiers, "Do this." His duty is to do that. He should not think at that time what is right or wrong. Just like Yudhisthira Maharaja, he was advised by Krsna that "Yudhisthira, Maharaja Yudhisthira, you go to Dronacarya and inform him that ‘Your son is dead.' " It was a false information. Because Dronacarya would not die if he is not affected with some lamentation. So Krsna asked Maharaja Yudhisthira that "You go because you are recognized truthful, Dharmaraja. So when you will say, this is also false, he will believe." But Yudhisthira hesitated, "How can I tell lie?" He disobeyed the order of Krsna, and he wanted to become very truthful. For this reason he had to see hell. So in the mundane consideration there are so many things, right and wrong. So long you are on the mundane platform, you have to obey all these right and wrong. But in the spiritual platform, when it is ordered by Krsna... He is above all this duality. He is Absolute. So even if He says to do something wrong... Because He cannot say anything which is wrong. God is all-good. If you discriminate God's order from the mundane platform, then you will be misguided. Anyone who has got firm and fixed up faith that whatever God does, whatever God orders, even from mundane calculation it may be wrong, that is right... That is absolute understanding. So those who are in the spiritual platform, for them, there is no such consideration, which is right and which is wrong. Their only consideration is whether Krsna is pleased. That's all. If Krsna is pleased by inducing me to do something wrong, I will not hesitate to do it. I will do it because it is Krsna's order. Tasmin tuste jagat tustam. My principle should be, "If Krsna is satisfied, then everything is all right." But while we are in the mundane platform, we should not concoct the idea that "Krsna is pleased; let me do that." No. That you, cannot do. You have to follow the rules and regulations. But if you think that it is... You cannot think; neither you can manufacture. So either you should hear from Krsna directly or... That is not possible because we are not in touch with Krsna at the present moment. We are trying to see Krsna through the transparent medium of spiritual master. So we cannot manufacture that "This is Krsna's desire." No. You have to get it confirmed from the transparent medium, spiritual master. These are the principles.

So Arjuna says, yadi mam apratikaram. Pratikaram, apratikaram. Pratikaram means counteraction, and apratikaram means without any counteraction. So he is informing Krsna that "If the other party, dhartarastrah, the sons of Dhrtarastra, other party, they kill me while I am not prepared..." But that is not the regulation of fighting. So therefore he says apratikaram: "Whether if I am not prepared and they kill me all of a sudden, this is wrong. I accept, even they kill me, apratikaram, without I am fully equipped..." Asastram. In the fight, one must be equipped with all weapons. "But when I am not equipped with weapons or I am not willing to fight... Because I am not willing to fight." This has been decided: "I cannot kill my kinsmen. Therefore I am not going to take the step of pratikaram, counteraction. So even in this condition, they come and kill me," yadi mam apratikaram asastram, "I am not fully equipped with sastra, weapons," asastram and sastra-panayah, "and they are fully equipped with weapons," dhartarastra rane hanyus, "so in this condition the other party, my cousin-brothers, sons of Dhrtarastra, if they kill me," rane hanyus, tan me ksemataram bhavet, "I shall prefer that. I am not going to fight. If you think that ‘If you don't fight, then they will take the opportunity...' " He is talking with Krsna. He is already giving the counterargument, that "Krsna, if you think that I don't fight, but they will take the opportunity and kill me immediately, that also I shall prefer, but I am not going to fight. This is my decision." Sanjaya uvaca. So Sanjaya, the secretary of Dhrtarastra... They were sitting in a room. So evam uktva, "thus saying," Arjuna, the person... Arjuna is nominative case. Arjuna, sankhye, "in the battlefield;" rathopastha, "on the chariot," upavisat. You have seen the picture. When Krsna blew His conchshell and from the backside Arjuna is just trying to take his arrow and fight... But instead of fighting, he's visrjya sa-saram capam. "No, no, no. I am not going to..., giving up. Finished. I am no more going to fight." Visrjya sa-saram capam. Why it is? Soka-samvigna-manasah. His mind was overwhelmed with lamentation, that "How can I kill my kinsmen?" This is the position.

So apratikaram, pratikaram. There are two things. Pratikaram means counteraction. Here in this material world, for everything there is counteraction. Just like if you are diseased, so you have to take the medicine. That is pratikaram. The disease is caused by some, what is called, disarrangement within the body. So we have to arrange, we have to set up the disarrangement within the body. That is pratikaram. Medicine, counteraction. Similarly, if somebody is coming to kill you, so you also become prepared to kill him. This is pratikaram. If somebody is drowning in the sea, then you have to give him some help, send some boat or some lifeboat so that he can be saved. So we have got so many... This material world is going on. It is full of dangers. Padam padam yad vipadam. Material world means step by step, simply danger. That is material world. So we have to find out pratikaram, counteraction, how to save yourself from danger. Just like when we walk, we see in so many doors, "Danger." So that you are warned. Sometimes the doors are: "Beware of the dog." So you have to take care, "No, I shall not enter." So everything there is danger, and there is pratikaram, counter, counteraction, how to save yourself from it. This is called struggle for existence. In this material world, there is only this danger and counteraction. I am unhappy; so just to become happy I have to work, I have to get money. Whatever I want... So this is going on. Pratikaram, danger, vipadam. Padam padam yad vipadam. Padam padam yad vipadam na tesam. So samasrita ye pada-pallavam plavam. Anyone who has taken shelter of the lotus feet of Krsna, samasrita ye pada-pallavam plavam mahat-padam punya-yaso murareh. Murari. Murari means Krsna. So punya-yaso. He is simply glorified by pious activities. There is no impious activities in Krsna. Krsna is the purest. So whatever He does, that is pure. The rascals they do not know this. They think, "Krsna is immoral." And He has become a professor, teacher. He does not know, he does not understand Krsna. So many big, big professors, learned scholars, they do not understand what is Krsna. And they talking about Krsna. They are taking the position of instructing about Krsna. Just see how rascaldom. You do not know something perfectly, and still, you are talking about it. This is going on. Punya-yaso murareh. What is Krsna? Krsna says, bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyante [Bg. 7.19]. We have to know Krsna. Because as soon as you know Krsna, you become immediately liberated.

So knowing Krsna is not so easy thing. Therefore Krsna says, manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye [Bg. 7.3]. First of all you become siddha, perfect. Perfect means perfect knowledge. That is called siddha. And another siddha means very powerful, master of all yogic perfection. That is also siddha. Yogic perfection, eight kinds of perfection,

anima-laghima-praptih
prakamyam mahima yatha
isitvam ca vasitvam ca
tatha kamavasayita

So they obtain eight kinds of siddhis. They are also called siddhas. From material point of view, a perfect yogi can counteract anything, and whatever he likes, he can do. That is called siddhi, asta-siddhi. But still, he is not as siddha as Krsna. Krsna's name is Yogesvara. He is the master of all the yogis. Yogesvara. Yatra yogesvarah krsnah. The yogis also, they are deficient with Krsna's power. Still, some rascals, without any yoga siddhi, they claim that "I have become God." What is your qualification? Have you got all the yoga-siddha? Then how you claim that you are... But rascals, they claim to become God, and other rascals, they also believe that "Here is God." Both of them are animals. Sva-vid-varahostra-kharaih samstutah purusah pasuh [SB 2.3.19]. One who does not know actually what is Krsna, if he accepts somebody, some rascal as God, then he is also animal. That is also animal. One who is claiming that "I am as good as Krsna," he is certainly animal, crazy. He does not know what is the power of Krsna, how much He is Yogesvara. Still, he is falsely claiming to become Krsna. And one who accepts him as Krsna... So Krsna, one should understand first of all Krsna. Without understanding Krsna, if somebody remarks, if he thinks Krsna as ordinary human being, avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritam [Bg. 9.11], that is the mudha's business, rascals' business. Krsna, because He comes as ordinary human being, manusya-lila, if we take Him, Krsna, as like me, like ordinary, than I am a mudha. How a human child at the age of six or seven years, one can lift the whole mountain Govardhana? First of all try to understand Krsna, how much powerful He is. How a three-month-old child can kill a big demon, Putana. These things are there in the Bhagavatam about Krsna's life. How do you claim to become as good as Krsna? This is crazy. Animalism.

So Krsna's order must be final. If He says then everything is all right. So here Arjuna's position is: Krsna has already arranged the battle, and he knows that Krsna wants this battle; still, he says that yadi mam apratikaram, he decides in his own way. This is called maya. He knows what is Krsna's desire, and still, he is speaking his own philosophy. That means Arjuna is placing himself on the position of ordinary man. Ordinary man does not know what is Krsna and what is Krsna's desire, and he manufactures his own philosophy and thoughts. That is ordinary man. But Arjuna, he is always friend of Krsna, constant friend. His name is Gudakesa, above all darkness. Certainly he must be. One who is Krsna's friend directly, how there can be ignorance? There cannot be. Then why Arjuna is playing that part? He knows Krsna's desire; still, he says that yadi mam apratikaram asastram sastra-panayah. And no... Tan me ksemataram bhavet. He is playing like that. Because without Arjuna's playing like that, how this Bhagavad-gita will come? This is just like playing on the stage. One very rich man, he is, in a drama, he is playing the part of a very poor man. But actually, he is not poor man. But in the stage he is playing the part of a poor man. Similarly, Arjuna is not bewildered, but for the time being he appears to be bewildered by Krsna's maya, because Krsna wants to speak Bhagavad-gita, for the benefit of the whole world, that what is spiritual knowledge. Therefore this is a stage arrangement.

So pratikaram and apratikaram. Whatever we have manufactured, pratikaram, counteraction, that will be also failure if Krsna does not sanction it. That is realized by Prahlada Maharaja. He says "My dear Lord," Hiranyakasipu, that "people have manufactured so many pratikaram, counteraction." But tanu-bhrtam, "Those who have accepted this material body, they are simply manufacturing things to counteract dangers. But even though they have all this counteracting machine or counteracting agents, still, without Your sanction, this counteracting machine or agent will not be fruitful." So similarly, Arjuna is being protected by Krsna. So even though Arjuna is not well-equipped, apratikaram, still he will be saved. Because Krsna is there. Tavad vibho tanu-bhrtam tvad-upeksitanam. And even one is well-equipped and if Krsna does not like to save him, he'll not be saved. Always mind this. Rakse krsna mare ke, mare krsna rakse ke. This is ordinary, that if Krsna wants to kill you, nobody can save you. And if Krsna wants to save you, nobody can kill you. This is the position. So the examples are given by Prahlada Maharaja: balasya neha saranam pitarau nrsimha. "My Lord Nrsimhadeva, the parents of children, they are not actually protector of the children." Because generally we think that "This child, this boy has got his father, mother, he is well-protected." No. Father and mother... Every father and mother wants to protect the child, but still, the child has to meet some danger and dies. There are so many experience. Similarly, balasya neha saranam pitarau nrsimha. The father and mother is a counteraction for the dangers of the child. But Prahlada Maharaja said, "No, they are not counteraction." It is not that if a child is in danger, because the father and mother is very strong, very rich, he will be able to give protection to the child. No. That is not possible. Then nartasya cagadam. The medicine... A person is suffering from some disease, some fatal disease. If you think "I shall engage first-class physician and I shall supply first-class medicine," if you think, "Then the patient will be saved," no, that is not possible. That is not possible. We have got many experiences like that. Then no rich man would have died. Because he has got money, he can employ first-class physician, first-class medicine, and simply by engaging such things, counteracting, pratikaram, he cannot be saved. There are many examples like that. So the conclusion is tavad vibho tanu-bhrtam tvad-upeksitanam: "If You neglect, if You have decided that this person, this child cannot be saved, then any amount of pratikaram will not help, will not help."

Therefore real pratikaram is Krsna. Real pratikaram is Krsna, counteractive. So better we take shelter of Krsna as Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. You must always know that no counteraction will be beneficial for us unless we are protected by Krsna. So therefore our business is fully surrender to Krsna and seek His protection. Krsna says, "Yes," aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami, "I shall give you protection." This is Bhagavad-gita philosophy. We have to believe on the assertion of Krsna that "He is prepared to give me all protection, provided I have fully surrendered unto His lotus feet."

Thank you very much. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 1.45-46 -- London, August 1, 1973