Dallas, July 29, 1975
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vartamanah anyayoh kalah
gunabhijnapako yatha
evam janmanyayor etad
dharmadharma-nidarsanam
[SB 6.1.47]
So there are three phases of time: past, present and future. Time is eternal; I am also eternal. But because I am in the material world, the time is relatively divided into past, present and future. Relativity, the law of relativity -- I have explained several times. Brahma's past, present, future and the ant's past, present, future are not the same. Similarly, our past, present, future or the ant's past, present, future are not the same. Time is eternal, but according to the quality of the body, the past, present, future is calculated. So it is said in the Bhagavad-gita... Krsna says vedaham samatitani [Bg. 7.26]. Because Krsna is not changing body, therefore He has no past, present, future. Those who are changing body, they have got past, present, future. I had my childhood. I have changed the body in this old age. Therefore I think, "In the past I was like this, or future, I will be like this." So this is relative. Time is eternal, we are eternal, but because we have accepted this temporary body, therefore we have to calculate past, present and future. So future means... Just like there is ordinary word in English, "Child is the father of man," future. The same child will be father or grandfather in future.
So this future, past, present, future, is being controlled by the three modes of material nature. If we practice in this life sattva-guna, then urdhvam gacchanti sattva-sthah: [Bg. 14.18] then we shall be promoted to the higher planetary system. Madhye tisthanti rajasah. If we cultivate rajo-guna... Rajo-guna means kama-lobha, kama, simply desiring. This is called rajo-guna. "I want this, I want this, I want this." Because there is no satiation of want, therefore every man or woman planning something, "How my sense gratification will be fully satisfied." This is rajo-guna, kama. Everyone is forgetting his real business. His real business is he should know, one should know, that "I am eternal. I have taken this temporary body and subjected to the laws of nature, birth, death and old age. So my real problem is how to become again eternal, not accepting any more birth, death, old age. That is my real business." But because I am infected with the material modes of nature, we are making different plans. Everyone is busy. Everyone is busy in different plans, forgetting his real business. This is called maya. Maya means..., ma means not; ya means this. Therefore maya means when you understand, "This is not my business," then you are out of maya. "This is not," ma-ya.
So here the Yamadutas are analyzing whether Ajamila is pious or impious. The Visnudutas asked them to explain what is dharma and what is adharma. "You have come here to arrest this person, to take away with to the yama... So you are servant of Dharmaraja. Now explain what is dharma and adharma." Dharma means which will bring me again to my original, constitutional position, and adharma means which will take me down and down from my original, constitutional position. This is the test of dharma and adharma. I am eternal part and parcel of God, so my dharma is to render service to God and go back to home, back to Godhead. This is my real business. So adharma means I forget my relationship with the Supreme Lord and I go down and down just to become up to the worm in the stool. This is called adharma. There are so many varieties of life. Why? This is due to difference of dharma and adharma. Those who are trying to take the principles of dharma, they are being elevated to the higher, higher, higher, higher, higher, up to back to home, back to Godhead. And those who are not accepting... Jaghanya-guna-vrtti-stha adho gacchanti tamasah [Bg. 14.18]. Jaghanya, they do not know how to live, just like animal, less than animal. Animal has got also sense. The modern civilization is less than animal. Animal does not kill its own son. The human being is killing his own son.
So this is the position. And this is not at all good. It is suffering. We are purchasing suffering more and more. The laws of God or laws of nature, they are very strict. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14]. You cannot avoid the stringent laws of the material nature. If you violate, then you will suffer. If you follow, then you will be elevated. That is stated, vartamanah anyayoh kalah. This suffering or enjoying -- there is no enjoyment-suffering, so this is past, present and future. I am suffering or enjoying in this body. Then I am manufacturing another body for the future. And that manufacturing of future depending on the influence of kala and the material modes, sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. In this way I am implicated. That they do not know. Vartamanah anyayoh kalah gunabhijnapako. Those who are learned, they can understand why this man has become like this or why the animal has become this. Guna-jnapa. Guna, according to guna. There are three gunas, and mix it then it becomes nine, then mix it, it becomes eighty-one. Guna-jnapakah. It is not that every different types of body and living entities have come by chance. This is nonsense. There is no question of chance. Everything is being carried or being conducted by the three modes of material nature. Guna-jnapakah. Evam janma anyayoh. As I have got this body according to guna, similarly, anyayoh, in the future we shall get different types of body according to guna. Evam janmanyayor etad. But all these -- based on dharma and adharma. The principle is dharma and adharma, our occupational duty according to modes of material nature.
Just like a pig. It is very much fond of eating stool. So if you want to ask, "Why this animal is fond of eating stool?"... So dharma adharma jnapaka, because in the past life this living entity practiced tamo-guna, no discrimination of eating... Tamo-guna means no discrimination. Eating... We have got four businesses in this life, so long we have got this material body: ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam ca, eating, sleeping and sex and defense. These are primary business of the body. So why there are different types of eating, different types of sleeping? Why different types of mating, sex intercourse, and different types of defense? It is due to different qualities of the nature. A dog is happy sleeping on the street. A man does not want to sleep on the street. He wants to sleep in a nice apartment. Why this difference of...? According to guna. A dog enjoys sex life on the street without any shame, but a man has got some social convention. So he does not do so. But now they are coming, improving, that "There is no harm if there is sex on the street. Why we should have apartment?"
So these Yamaduta superficially saw that "This man, Ajamila, is a first-class sinful man, and he has to be taken to Yamaraja. He has simply committed adharma." But the Visnuduta has come because he is now freed from all material contamination, because at the end of his life he chanted the holy name of Narayana. So that is... If it is possible, so much advantage of chanting the holy name of the Lord, if you constantly keep yourself engaged in chanting the holy name of the Lord, there is no possibility of your being touched by maya. This is the position. Vartamanah anyayoh kalah gunabhijnapakah. Gunabhijnapakah. Anyone who is intelligent, who can understand what this man is, which quality he belongs to... This is education. This is learning, to understand what is the position of this particular... The general definition is given, urdhvam gacchanti sattva-stha madhye tisthanti rajasah, jaghanya-guna-vrtti-stha adho gac... [Bg. 14.18]. You can... Any person who has studied sastra, and he is in the sattva-guna, to him it is..., everything is there. He can understand what is this man, what he is going to be and what he was, past, present, future, everything. Why? How one can understand past, present, future? Through the sastra. Sastra-caksusah. There are still astrological calculation in India called Brghu-samhita. If you consult Brghu-samhita, immediately they will give you your past, present and future. Immediately they will give. The astrology science is so perfect. What you were in the past life, what you are at the present and what you are going to be, these three things they can be known.
vartamanah anyayoh kalah
gunabhijnapako yatha
evam janmanyayor etad
dharmadharma-nidarsanam
So we have to follow the principle of religion; otherwise we are misguided. Just like a child has to be sent to school to understand, to become learned scholar. It is compulsory, not that I may send my child to school or if I like, I don't send. No. It is compulsory. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet [MU 1.2.12]. This is Vedic injunction. If you want to be learned fully, especially if you want to learn the transcendental science, gurum eva abhigacchet: "One must go to a guru." Guru -- the spiritual master as well as the teacher also, guru. So he must att..., he must go to a guru. Tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya [Bg. 4.34]. And going to guru, what you have to do? Pranipatena. You have to fully surrender. Pariprasnena. After surrendering, then you can enquire, you can put question. Otherwise, it is illegal. If you do not accept anybody as guru, then don't put question before him to waste his time and your time. This is the process. First of all find out whom you like to accept as guru. Then put question. But sometimes we have to talk with persons who is not student: outsider. That is preaching work. But sastra says that one should approach a guru, and with surrender he would ask him, and guru will talk with a person who is surrendered. Otherwise, there is no necessity of talk, because he will not accept. One who has come to challenge the guru, so he will simply waste time. He will not accept. But a disciple who has surrendered, he will accept. Therefore talking is recommended between guru and disciple, not outsider. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum eva abhigacchet [MU 1.2.12]. This is essential. And guru trains the disciple according to the Vedic principle. Therefore there are division of varna and asrama.
So these are very scientific things. The whole world is unaware of these scientific things, this animal civilization; and this Krsna consciousness movement is trying to elevate to the standard of human being.
Thank you very much. (end)
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