Being with Krishna Is Fact
Srimad-Bhagavatam 5.5.9
Vrndavana, October 31, 1976
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Prabhupada:
yada mano-hrdaya-granthir asya
karmanubaddho drdha aslatheta
tada janah samparivartate 'smad
muktah param yaty atihaya hetum
[SB 5.5.9]
So the conclusion is given here. One should be completely satiated from this attachment of sex. Then he is liberated. Liberation means no more material life, and the basic principle of material life is sex. Therefore whole Vedic civilization is based on to train people how he becomes free from sex desire. The great emperor Yamunacarya, he gave his experience how he became liberated from sex desire,
yad-avadhi mama cetah krsna-padaravinde
nava-nava-rasa-dhamany udyatam rantum asit
tad-avadhi bata nari-sangame smaryamane
bhavati mukha-vikarah susthu nisthivanam ca
Since, he gives his experience, "Since I have given my mind and heart in the service of yad-avadhi mama cetah krsna-padaravinde, at the lotus feet of Lord Krsna, and I have increased my transcendental, blissful life by rendering such loving service, since then even if I think of sex life, yad-avadhi mama cetah, tad-avadhi bata nari-sangame smaryamane, even sex life, thinking of it, it becomes so abominable that I spit on it." So this is the test of advancement of Krsna conscious life.
Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu when He delivered Jagai-Madhai... This Jagai-Madhai was debauch, drinking, illicit sex, meat eating and these things, degradation. These four principles are the four pillars of degradation. Therefore we prohibit. That if you want to make progress in Krsna consciousness, you must give up these four principles. So, Caitanya Mahaprabhu made this condition, that if you promise that you will give up these four principles of sinful life, then I will accept you. Never mind whatever you have done in the past. Every man is sinful, there is no doubt about it, more or less. That is not disqualification. If he agrees to give up that, then immediately he becomes liberated. That is Krsna also says in the Bhagavad..., aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami. Liberation is not very difficult. It can be obtained in one minute, provided you want to take it. Just like Krsna says,
sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami ma sucah
[Bg. 18.66]
So, if you are free from the resultant action of sinful life, then you are liberated. If you get shelter at the lotus feet of Krsna, and do not act in such a way that you again fall down, then you are liberated. Liberation means, we have several times discussed, hitva anyatha-rupam svarupena vyavasthitih [SB 2.10.6]. Our svarupa means original, constitutional position is jivera svarupa haya nitya-krsna-dasa [Cc. Madhya 20.108-109], eternally servant of Krsna. So as soon as we place ourselves in our original place, then you are liberated immediately. If we determine, decide finally, that we shall now continuously vehemently (?) fixed up in Krsna consciousness, very simple thing.
Krsna consciousness is described by Krsna in the Bhagavad-gita, man-mana bhava mad-bhaktah. That's all. Always think of Me, man-manah, and bhava mad-bhaktah, be ready always to serve Me. Bhakta means, where there is bhakti and Bhagavan. Then bhakta. If there is no Bhagavan, and there is no activities to serve Bhagavan, there is no bhakta also. They are demons. So bhakta means there must be Bhagavan. Sevya, sevaka, and seva. Sevya sevaka seva, three things. Sevya means who is to be served, the master, sevya. And sevaka means the servant. If there is master and servant then there is seva. This seva is called bhakti. So, here mano-hrdaya-granthir asya karmanubaddho drdha aslatheta. When he decides no more these things. Ato grha-ksetra-sutapta-vittair janasya moho 'yam. When we understand that I am becoming more and more implicated, pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam etam [SB 5.5.8], by this sex desire I am becoming more and more implicated. This implication is engaging me more and more in karma, karmanubaddha. When we understand this, and try to get free from this business, then we become eligible for going back home back to Godhead. Tada janah samparivartate 'smad. Samparivartate, returns to his original position, asmat. And when he turns back towards back home, back to Godhead, then he is mukta. That is liberation.
Mukti is described here. It is not very difficult simply we have to decide that it is enough, no more. Then muktah param yaty atihaya hetum. This is the hetu. We are baddha, conditioned. This is the ato grha-ksetra-sutapta-vittair janasya moho 'yam. So long we shall try, because people are after this grha apartment or home, ksetra land, grha, ksetra, suta children, apta friends, vitta wealth, riches, the basic principle is that, maithunyam, agaram ajnah vindati tapan. This is very important point. Therefore according to Vedic civilization, one is trained up how to give up this ideas, concoction. That is brahmacari, grhastha, vanaprastha, ultimately sannyasa. No more. And ultimately, sannyasa also is not the perfectional stage. Sannyasa is also practice, how to come to the perfectional stage. The perfectional stage is to be engaged practically, not theoretically, engaged in the service of the Lord, according to his capacity. Not that everyone will be able to do everything, that is not required.
Krsna is not stereotyped, that He has to be served in this way only. No, Krsna can accept service in so many ways. There are dvadasa-rasa, akhila-rasamrta-sindhu. Just like Krsna is enjoying when Bhismadeva was piercing His body with the arrows. He was enjoying. This is also rasa. Bhisma, purposefully, he knows Krsna is the Supreme Lord, still, he is devotee, he was giving Him pleasure by throwing arrows on His body. So Krsna takes pleasure in that. Krsna does not take pleasure only when you throw rose flowers. He can take pleasure when you can pierce. If you are actually able to do that. So that is Krsna.
So anukulyena krsnanusilanam [Cc. Madhya 19.167]. You have to know how Krsna will be pleased, then you are perfect. That you have to practice, first of all, in the vidhi-marga, according to sastra, according to the instruction of guru. Sadhu-sastra-guru-vakya tinete koriya aikya. Sadhu-marganugamanam. Adau gurvasrayam. Sad-dharma-prccha. To accept guru means to be inquisitive. Just like Sanatana Gosvami, he approached Caitanya Mahaprabhu that, "I was minister. I was implicated in material activities. You have relieved me from this implication. Now please tell me what I have to do." Therefore Sanatana Gosvami was given instruction for two months continually, what to do now. So that is called sad-dharma-prccha. Not that a fashion, I have made guru, I have accepted guru, my business is finished. No, sad-dharma-prccha, the disciple must be ready to ask. Sanatana Gosvami, he was a minister, he resigned the post. That does not mean he was silent, stopped all work. He was asking, "What I have to do?" This is sad-dharma-prccha and Caitanya Mahaprabhu ordered him to come to Vrndavana and renovate the vrndavana-lila.
This place, before Caitanya Mahaprabhu's advent, this city, or this whole Vrndavana area, Radha-kunda it was all field only, agricultural field. Nobody knew where Krsna had His pastimes. So it was the direction of Caitanya Mahaprabhu that this is Radha-kunda, this is this, this is this, and the Gosvamis they did it. That was it. Not that they came here... Although they were sitting underneath a tree (coughs). Raghunatha (?) Gosvami had no opportunity to come to a nice temple like this. They came when the whole thing was only agricultural field. But they constructed gradually the Madana-mohana's temple, the Govindaji's temple, the Radha-kunda. They engaged fully, writing books, and establishing temples. Then after them others, big, big...
Just like first of all, Maharaja Mansingh, he carried out the order of Rupa Gosvami. He spent so much, in those days, lakhs and crores of rupees. You have seen the Govindaji's temple, broken. It is not possible to construct such a temple at the present moment. But is was done by the order of Sri Rupa Gosvami. It is the system, if you want to see a saintly person, you must go there to serve him. Not that simply asking, "Give me your blessing." And, "Why, are you worthy for blessing?" Cheap blessing. And blessing also, they do not know what is blessing. Blessing, they think that "I have got some disease, if the saintly person gives me some blessing, I will be relieved from this disease." Now why don't you go to the doctor? But you go to saintly person for curing your disease. This is anyabhilasita, that they do not know even how to approach a saintly person. So Mansingh was very important man, he was the commander-in-chief of Akbar, and he approached Rupa Gosvami, "What can I do for you." So, Rupa Gosvami, he did not require that temple, but he wanted to engage this rich man to the service of the Lord and he asked him that, "You construct a temple like this." Rupa Gosvami was living very humbly, you know at the Radha-Damodara temple, his bhajanasrama. He did not require a temple. But we are making members. Why? The idea is they'll spend the money for nothing in sense gratification. Take some money from them and engage in constructing temple. This is our conscious...
Not that we want to live in big palatial building and take subscription from others. No, this is not our policy. He'll spoil the money in sense gratification, so try to engage him. This is the policy. And exactly following the footprints of Gosvamis, we do not require any money. We, we are quiet confident Krsna will supply all the necessities. But to engage the whole world who are spending money in so many rascaldom way, if that money is engaged in Krsna consciousness, they'll get a chance. This is called ajnata-sukrti. He does not know how he is making progress in Krsna consciousness. Ajnata, it is unknown to him. But the person who is trying to induce him to be engaged in Krsna's service, that is his friend, real friend. They are misunderstanding that these people are exacting money by force. Even it is done by force, it is good for the person who is contributing. But you should not use any such means, people will misunderstand.
But the policy is that his money, which is accumulated for sense gratification... In Western countries they accumulate millions of dollars and at the last moment he gives to his dog. (laughter) There are many instances, you know better than me. He has no, nobody even, because they do not marry, no children, no friend, so the dog is the best friend in Western country. Every gentleman must have this best friend, pet dog. So ultimately, because there is nobody to give, he gives it to the dog. Makes a will that my dog will get it and they'll give him jewelry, ornaments and so on, so on, so on. We have got practical experience, the big palace which we have purchased in Detroit, the man did not marry, so ultimately he bequeathed the whole estate to the dog. (laughter) And there is a tomb of the dog. (laughter)
So, one has to do it. If he does not do it for God, then he will have to do it ultimately to the dog. So better, so long you have got money, spend it for God. San-nimitte varam tyago vinase niyate sati(?). This is the instruction of Canakya Pandita, that whatever money you have got, it will be spent. You cannot keep it. Either the money will go from you, or you have to go from the money. You cannot keep together. That is not possible. If you don't spend the money for Krsna, if you keep it, that "I shall see it. I shall lick up this money and become happy..." Krpana, that those who are miser, they do not spend money for Krsna but they see the money. Therefore it has become a problem for us, how to spend the money. How to spend the money for Krsna, that is our policy. We do not want to keep money. We cannot keep, that is not possible. Somebody will take it. Ultimately the government will take. Better spend it for Krsna. Spend it for Krsna that is the right use. San-nimitte varam tyago vinase niya... Canakya Pandita, he was great politician, he is advising that if you have got money, spend it for Krsna. Don't keep it. Spend it for Krsna. Why? It will be spoiled. Today or tomorrow it will be spoiled. Somebody will take and spoil it. Better, if you spend it for Krsna, at least your service will be recognized. Krsna will see that this man is spending his hard-earned money for Me. That is called ajnata-sukrti. This service to Krsna, this inclination, does not arise unless one is very, very, good asset he has got.
Catur-vidha bhajante mam sukrtinah. Who comes to krsna-bhajana? Sukrtina. Not ordinary man, sukrtina. Catur-vidha bhajante mam sukrtinah. The duskrtina, he will never come to Krsna consciousness. Na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah [Bg. 7.15], lowest of the mankind, full of sinful activities. How they can come to Krsna? It is not possible.
yesam tv anta-gatam papam
jananam punya-karmanam
te dvandva-moha-nirmukta
bhajante mam drdha-vratah
[Bg. 7.28]
These are the qualification. Manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye [Bg. 7.3]. So there are many authoritative statements. Na janma kotibhih sukrti tatra laulyam ekalam laulyam na labhyate janma kotibhih sukrti(?). This desire that I shall serve Krsna, it is not ordinary thing. Na janma kotibhih sukrtibhir labhyate. But it is possible if we accumulate this sukrti, all right little service, little service, little service. Therefore the preacher's business is to engage these fools and rascals, who are very enthusiastic in the activities of sense gratification. If they are somehow or other engaged in Krsna's service, they accumulate sukrti, sukrti.
Another place it is said that, krta-punya-punjah [SB 10.12.11]. Krta-punya-punjah. Punya, sukrti, little, little, little, when it is accumulated, then they get the chance of talking with Krsna, playing with Krsna, dancing with Krsna. That is possible. It is not mythology. The rascals, they think it is mythology. It is not mythology, it is fact. But it is mythology or imagination for the non-devotees. For the devotees, it is practical. So this is the muktah param yaty atihaya hetum. That bhaktim param bhagavati pratilabhya kamam hrd-rogam asv apahinoty acirena dhirah. Bhaktim param pratilabhya. That is conclusion of when Pariksit Maharaja inquired about Krsna's rasa-lila. Krs... Pariksit... Sukadeva Gosvami replied that "If one is actually qualified to hear about rasa, vikriditam idam ca vraja-vadhubhir visnoh. These activities with Lord Krsna and the vraja-vadhubhih, if it is properly spoken and heard, then the result will be that hrd-rogam kamam apahinoti. The material disease, kama, lusty desire, will be finished, no more. And bhaktim param bhagavati pratilabhya kamam hrd-rogam asv apahinoty acirena dhirah. Very soon he will be dhira. No more kama. This is the result. Not that after hearing rasa-lila, "Oh, let me imitate. Let me also dance with young girls and enjoy." This is going on. Rascal. Mayavadis they do that. Perhaps you know. There are so many instances. But actually, the result will be this hrd-rogam kamam acirena dhirah. No more desire. Thank you very much.
Devotees: Jaya. (end)
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