Friday, May 31, 2013

Big Chumps - Big Controllers



Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.12
Mayapur, April 5, 1975

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Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
 

Nitai: "Lord Advaita Acarya is the incarnation of Maha-Visnu, whose main function is to create the cosmic world through the actions of maya."

Prabhupada:

maha-visnur jagat-karta
mayaya yah srjaty adah
tasyavatara evayam
advaitacarya isvarah
 [Cc. Adi 1.12]

So there are three principles -- the isvara principle and the maya principle and the jiva principle -- these three principles. So Advaita Acarya is isvara principle. He belongs to the isvara group. Even in communistic country, they call "classless society," but they are also creating a managerial class. They cannot do without that. They could not avoid it, managers. Why manager? Make classless society, all worker. That is not possible. There must be isvara. Isvara means controller. That is the beginning, from the creation, isvara. So isvara, there are innumerable isvara forms, as it is stated in the Brahma-samhita. Advaitam acyutam anadim ananta-rupam [Bs. 5.33]. Many, many, many millions and trillions of isvara forms... It is stated in the Bhagavatam that many... How many, how you can calculate? That is compared -- just like in the river or in the ocean there are waves, but you cannot count how many waves are there. That is not possible. Can you count the waves of the ocean, going on, day and night, waves? Similarly, in big, big rivers... So God's incarnation, they are coming out, innumerable, just like the waves, but we can understand by the action that He is incarnation of God.

So the activities of Advaita Acarya means that He's isvara. He called Caitanya Mahaprabhu to come down. That is isvara. You cannot call the Supreme Personality of Godhead to come down. That is not possible. But isvara, or one who has attained the power of attorney from isvara, he can do that. It is no otherwise possible. Otherwise, it is impossible. Krsna-sakti vina nahe nama pracara. We have to receive the authority from Krsna. Then it is possible to preach the cult of Hare Krsna movement. That means Isvara, and anyone who attains the power of attorney from Isvara, he's also isvara. That is called power of attorney. He can act on behalf of the proprietor. That is possible. So Advaita, Advaita Acarya did it. He inaugurated this Krsna consciousness movement. When He saw that the people are so much misled that simply they are busy for the bodily necessities of life and completely have forgotten Krsna, He became sympathetic. That is Vaisnava behavior. Vaisnavas, they are the best friend of the society, best friend, Vaisnava. Patitanam pavanebhyo vaisnavebhyo namo namah. The Vaisnava is always thinking how to deliver these fallen souls who are so much captivated with this false philosophy of hedonism -- "Eat, drink, be merry and enjoy." This is called hedonism. So they are always thinking how to deliver them. Advaita Prabhu did it; therefore He is Isvara. Prahlada Maharaja did it. Any Vaisnava who is actually feeling for the poor, conditioned souls, he must make arrangement for delivering these rascals from the death knell of ignorance. They do not know that nature is working, as it is said here, mayaya. Mayaya. The material nature means maya. That is an energy, or agent of Krsna, to act something, instrumental. Maya is instrumental. Maya is not all in all. Material nature is not all in all. That is foolish observation. This materialistic theory of creation -- "There was a chunk, and there was..." What is called?

Devotees: Explosion. Blowing. Big bang. Shock.

Prabhupada: What is that word?

Acyutananda: Big bang.

Prabhupada: Big bang?

Pusta Krsna: Explosion.

Prabhupada: Explosion, yes. So they are seeing that explosion and the chunk, but they cannot explain how the chunk became exploded. Sometimes we see that some earth, by the sunshine heating, heating, heating, it breaks all of a sudden. So this explosion of the chunk does not take place automatically. It is due to the sunshine drying it, drying it, drying it, and at a point it breaks. Similarly, the chunk is also, we can accept, the total material energy. You can take it as chunk. But this material energy in the form of chunk is agitated by the glance of Maha-Visnu. That is stated, sa aiksata sa asrjata. Material energy itself cannot explode. the  explosion theory is there... Not theory, fact. But the total material energy, mahat-tattva, when it is glanced over by Maha-Visnu, then it becomes agitated, and the modes of material nature begins to act. So then these activities are executed by Maha-Visnu, by His glancing, simply by His glancing. The power... Krsna is all-powerful. Visnu is all-powerful. So simply by glancing, He can agitate the material energy, and the creation begins. Sa aiksata sa asrjata. Eko narayana asit. These are the Vedic information. "In the beginning, there was only Narayana." Na isa na brahma: "There was no Lord Siva or Lord Brahma." We have studied that. Narayana, the Maha-Visnu, er, Garbhodakasayi Visnu, He created, first of all, Brahma. He is already there, from Maha-Visnu to Garbhodakasayi Visnu. Then He created Brahma. Then, through the material energy and Brahma's cooperation, the whole creation came into existence.

So actually the original person for material creation, Maha-Visnu, through the agency of maya, He has created. Mayaya srjaty adah. All this cosmic manifestation is created in that way. Those who are not devotee, they cannot see that over the chunk, total material energy, there is the vision of Maha-Visnu. That they cannot see. Just like you'll find on the ground, so many flowers and grasses are coming up. How? By the sunrise, the glance of the sun. Where there is no sunshine, there the vegetables do not grow. We have got practical experience. Similar... Therefore the field or the earth is not exploding with the vegetation. It is due to the sunshine. Therefore it is coming out. It is the real cause. Similarly, accepting that chunk, the total material energy, it is agitated by the glance of Maha-Visnu. Then it explodes and things are coming out. We can accept that in that way, but not that automatically there was explosion. That is not fact. Therefore to the foolish person, the power behind the explosion is not visible. Naham prakasah sarvasya yoga-maya-samavrtah [Bg. 7.25]. Therefore Krsna says that "I am not visible to everyone, they being covered by the curtain of yoga-maya." Mudhah nabhijanati mam ebhyah param avyayam. Tribhir gunamayir bhavair mohitah.

So this is our position. We do not know who is the actual architect behind all this nice material creation. That is Maha-Visnu, and His incarnation is Advaita Prabhu. Caitanya Mahaprabhu is directly Krsna, or Krsna's incarnation. Nityananda Prabhu is directly incarnation of Baladeva, and similarly, Sri Advaita Prabhu is incarnation of Maha-Visnu. So all of Them are on the equal footing. Sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu-nityananda, sri-advaita. They are on the same equal level. And then sakti-tattva, Sri-Gadadhara and Srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda. Gadadhara is the internal energy, and Srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda, they are marginal energy. So Isvara-tattva and sakti-tattva. So within this group, there is no this material energy because in the spiritual world there is no action of material energy, only spiritual energy. In the material world there is action of material energy. In the spiritual world there is no material energy. Therefore, in this Panca-tattva, there is no mention of material energy because in the spiritual world there is no material energy. Maya-gandha-hina.

So Advaita, Advaitacarya, is Isvara, but there are many isvaras. Even in this material world there are isvaras, innumerable. But the sastra has analyzed that the supreme isvara is Krsna. Isvarah paramah krsnah [Bs. 5.1]: "There is no more higher isvara than Krsna." Krsna also says, mattah parataram nanyat: [Bg. 7.7] "There is no more. This is the end." You go on finding out isvaras that... In material world, every one of us, isvara. Isvara means controller. So anyone controls, he can be called isvara. But there are isvaras over isvaras. You go on searching, isvara over isvara over isvara. When you come to the point there is no more other isvara, then He's God. That is definition. That is Krsna. You go on searching out, searching out. Just like... Generally, you know, Brahma is the cre... He's also isvara. He has created this universe. But he's not the supreme isvara. He's created by Garbhodakasayi Visnu. He's also Isvara, but He is expansion of Maha-Visnu. Then He is also Isvara. Then He's also expansion of Sankarsana. Then Sankarsana is expansion of Narayana. In this way, you go on, go on, go on, searching out. When you come to the point that no more isvara-isvarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, anadi... [Bs. 5.1]. So He has no adi. Anadir adih: "He is the beginning of everything, but He has no beginning." How it is, that? He has no...? So many isvaras have beginning. And why? Now, svarat. That is the dis... Svarat, completely independent. Janmady asya yatah [SB 1.1.1]. This is the Vedanta-sutra. And it is explained by the Vedanta-sutra-bhasya, janmady asya yatah anvayat itaratas ca arthesu abhijnah svarat [SB 1.1.1]. Svarat -- that is isvara; that is supreme isvara. He has no isvara. Everyone has got isvara over, but Krsna has no over-isvara. He is the ultimate, Supreme. Therefore sastra says, isvarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-ananda vigrahah [Bs. 5.1]. Krsnas tu bhagavan svayam: [SB 1.3.28] "All of them are Bhagavan, but the original Bhagavan, real Bhagavan, is Krsna." Krsnas tu bhagavan svayam. So everyone is under Krsna. Therefore Caitanya-caritamrta Kar says, ekale isvara krsna ara saba bhrtya [Cc. Adi 5.142]. Ara saba bhrtya, servant. Even isvara-tattva, visnu-tattva, they are also working as servant of Krsna. Advaita Acaryas, just like He's Isvara, but He's serving as servant of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Therefore ekale isvara... Na krsnat caitanyat para-tattvam param iha. They're... Above Krsna, above Caitanya Mahaprabhu, there is no more para-tattva. Param iha. It is the Supreme.

So in this way we have to study isvara-tattva, then sakti-tattva, jiva-tattva. That is knowledge; that is education. Not whimsically suggesting something and talking foolishly and... Athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-prasada-lesanugrhita eva hi janati tattvam [SB 10.14.29]. If you want to know the truth, then you have to follow these principles, how to know isvara-tattva. And how to know? Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum eva abhigacchet [MU 1.2.12]. Then you have to go, approach the bona fide guru. He will let you know. Tad viddhi pranipatena pariprasnena sevaya [Bg. 4.34]. No challenge. That is foolishness. No challenge. Pranipatena. First of all surrender. You don't surrender to a foolish man, but you have to surrender. Now it is your business to find out where to surrender. But you have to surrender. This is the process. Without surrender, you cannot understand the truth as it is. That is the instruction of Vedas everywhere. Tasmad gurum prapadyeta jijnasuh sreya uttamam: [SB 11.3.21] "One has to surrender to guru." Why? Jijnasu: "If you are inquisitive to know the Absolute Truth." And if you want to know something which is flickering, relative truth, that is another thing. But if you want to know the Absolute Truth, sreyah uttamam... Absolute Truth means ultimate benefit, sreya. Ultimate... Yes, exactly the word, benefit. If you want ultimate benefit, then gurum prapadyeta. Who is guru? Sabde pare ca nisnatam brahmany upasamasrayam: one who is expert in understanding the Vedic literature, sabde pare ca, especially transcendental.

So we have to go through like that. As Caitanya-caritamrta Kar is explaining, we have to follow this principle. Then if you are really inquisitive to learn the Absolute Truth, they will explain, as here it is explained that here Advaita Acarya is isvara, He's incarnation of Maha-Visnu. Sometimes Advaita Acarya is called Sadasiva avatara. The Sadasiva is also expansion of Maha-Visnu. So either way you say, incarnation of Sadasiva or Maha-Visnu, it doesn't matter. But Advaita Acarya is isvara-tattva. He's not sakti-tattva. He's isvara-tattva. And we are all sakti-tattva; therefore there is difference. Sakti-saktiman. Although there is no difference abhinna, but still, sakti-tattva is superior, er, saktiman tattva is superior than sakti-tattva. So in this way try to understand Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Nityananda Prabhu, Advaita Prabhu, and Gadadhara and Srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda. And... But they are so kind because they have come to deliver the fallen souls. If you sincerely chant their name, sri-krsna-caitanya prabhu-nityananda...

Devotees: ...sri-advaita gadadhara srivasadi-gaura-bhakta-vrnda.

Prabhupada: ...they'll be very, very kind to reveal themselves to you, and your path for liberation will be open.

Thank you very much. [break]
 
Acyutananda: We can understand how Sri Advaita Acarya is the servant of Lord Caitanya, but how is Maha Visnu and the Visnu-catur-bhuja, how do They serve Krsna?

Prabhupada: They are serving already Krsna. Why don't you see? Srsti-tattva. Krsna wanted the creation, and They were the agents to serve Krsna. They are creating. Ekale isvara krsna ara saba bhrtya [Cc. Adi 5.142]. They're serving already. All right. (end)
 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 1.12 -- Mayapur, April 5, 1975
© 2001 The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International.

Thursday, May 30, 2013

Update On Struggle Immortal


Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.11
Mayapur, April 4, 1975

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Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
 

Nitai: "I offer my respectful obeisances unto the feet of Sri Nityananda Rama, whose secondary part is the Visnu lying in the ocean of milk. That Ksirodakasayi Visnu is the Supersoul of all living entities and the maintainer of all the universes. Sesa Naga is His further subpart."

Prabhupada:

yasyamsamsamsah paratmakhilanam
posta visnur bhati dugdhabdhi-sayi
ksauni-bharta yat-kala so 'py anantas
tam sri-nityananda-ramam prapadye
 [Cc. Adi 1.11]

So all these Visnu descriptions beginning from Karanodakasayi, Maha-Visnu, who is producing universes... Then next Visnu is Garbhodakasayi, means the same Maha-Visnu entering in each and every universe. Then again, the same Visnu, for maintenance of this material world, is lying on the ksirabdhi, ocean of milk. And the same Visnu, Ksirabdhisayi Visnu, is maintaining not only these universal affair, but also He is entering in each and every living being's heart, even within the atom. This is the expansion of Visnu-tattva, Visnu-tattva within this material world. So just imagine. For creating and maintaining, sustaining, the whole material world is a network of Visnu's activities, and some rascal says, "There was chunk, and there was creation." This creation is so easy? And maintain them, hold the creation? If you create some center of our Krsna consciousness movement, how much strain you have to exert to maintain the standard, status quo. Similarly, there are so many universes created, maintained. And there is another phase, annihilation. That is the process of material creation. We have got experience. Anything material is created is... The beginning, there is a date, and it is maintained for sometimes, then it is annihilated. Anything you take -- this body, your body, my body -- it is created a certain date, and it is maintained for a certain number of years, and again it is annihilated. This is material world. Bhutva bhutva praliyate: [Bg. 8.19] "It manifests sometimes and again disappears." This is called material world, and because it is never eternally sustained, therefore it is called maya. It is not false, as the Mayavadi philosophers says, "It is false." It is not false. Lord Visnu is taking so much care to create this material world. How you can say it is false? It is not false? It is fact, but it is temporary. This is the difference between the material world and the spiritual world. In the spiritual world there is no creation and no destruction. In the material world, there is creation and destruction.

Now we, being part and parcel of Visnu, Krsna... Krsna says personally, mamaivamsah. So if Krsna is not affected by this creation and annihilation, then we, being part and parcel of Krsna, why we should be affected by this creation and annihilation? We are very much afraid of being annihilated, and we are trying to discover many scientific, so-called scientific methods how we may not be destroyed. Why this inclination that we may not be destroyed? Because we are part and parcel of Krsna; therefore eternity of life is our aspiration. That is the proof that we are..., Krsna is eternal, similarly, we are also eternal. But circumstantially we are now put into this material world. Therefore our main business is how to revive our original position, not to be annihilated, never annihilated. It is clearly said in the Bhagavad-gita. Actually we are not annihilated. Na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20], nityo sasvato 'yam.

So that is our real business. This requires little intelligence, that "We are eternal. Why we are put into this process of taking birth and death?" Krsna also says, "This is the real misery of life -- janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-duhkha-dosanudarsanam [Bg. 13.9]." They are trying, the so-called scientists, trying to increase... If the scientists sees that a man was to die immediately -- now he has lived one hour more -- he thinks that his science is successful. That is their foolishness. If you live one or two hour more or one year or two year more... In Allahabad we had a friend. He was very rich man. So he was on the dying stage. So many big, big doctors were attending, and he was begging to the doctors, "Doctor, can you not give me at least four years' time? I could finish what I have already attempted." So here we know the death is certain. Still, we make some scheme, big or small, according to idea. But we do not know that at any moment, death will come. "As sure as death." And this death is Krsna. Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, mrtyuh sarva-haras ca aham. That is Krsna's mercy. Repeatedly we are taking birth and making big, big scheme, and we may be successful, but at any moment Krsna says, "Now you get out and your all business finished. And whatever you have done, that is also finished, or I'll take it away," just to teach us that this place, material world, is not our place. That is our misconception, or maya, that we want to make a permanent settlement in this material world, which is not possible at all.

This knowledge, they do not know. The scientists are thinking of making life eternal, immortal, like the Hiranyakasipu's scheme, that he wanted to be immortal by tapasya. This is also tapasya, the so many scientific endeavor. This is also tapasya. But this tapasya is useless. It has no effect. They are trying foolishly to become immortal. That requires tapasya. Many, many demons... The demons do like that, tapasya for living ever. But they will not take the real method of tapasya, to purify. Their real aim is this material world, and here they want to become immortal. That is their foolishness. Here, nobody can become immortal. Even Brahma, who is the creator of this universe, he's also not immortal. But they are trying to be immortal here. That is not possible. Tapasya should be... To become immortal, tapasya is recommended. Tapo divyam putraka yena suddhyed sattva [SB 5.5.1]. Tapasya should be made. Immortality is your right. Because you are part and parcel of God, you are immortal. Now you are diseased. You are accepting birth and death. This is diseased condition. So try to cure the disease. Don't try to become immortal in diseased condition. That is not possible. You must cure the disease. If you simply imagine to live eternally, that is not possible. (aside:) Stop these children doing that. Immortal is our goal of life, immortality. That is the goal of life. But they are not taking seriously how to become immortal. That is their ignorance.

So this how to become immortal, there is process recommended in the sastras. That is in India. That is nowhere else. If you are actually serious about becoming immortal, then you should study the Vedic literatures from India. That is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission, that in India there is the process, how to become immortal. So He recommended, therefore, He desired, that Indians, you Indians, you have got the facility. Don't spoil your life by imitating the so-called rascal scientists of the Western countries, but you take advantage of the science, spiritual science, which is in India, and distribute the knowledge because they are in ignorance. Therefore He says,

bharata bhumite manusya janma haila yara
janma sarthaka kari' karo paropakara
 [Cc. Adi 9.41]

This should be the India's business. This whole world is in darkness, demonic civilization. And India, there is the remedy. So if the Indians take advantage and make his life perfect and then go to the Western countries and distribute this immortal knowledge, that is real business of India. Unfortunately, they are trying to imitate. There is no thing, nothing to imitate. And if you say they have discovered so many material comforts, that is all right. But with all your material comforts, you cannot become immortal. That is certain. That is certain. But you are desiring how to become immortal. That science is in India. That is tapasya. Tapasya means brahmacaryena. Tapasa brahmacaryena yamena niyamena va tyagena srota-saucabhyam... [SB 6.1.13]. This, this is the sastra.

So if you want to learn that science, how to become immortal, then you have to undergo austerities. That austerities begins with brahmacarya. Tapasa brahmacaryena [SB 6.1.13]. Brahmacarya means controlling sex life. That is required. If you can control sex impulse... Because that is the medium of bondage. Here in this material world everyone is working hard to enjoy sex life. That is the main aim. Main aim is... And that you will find, in your country especially, very, very prominent. In Paris very, very old men, they are going to the club at night simply for the same purpose. So this has to be controlled. Controlled means mind and the senses. And the prominent sense is sex. That is called control. So if you want to become immortal, then you must practice this. Of course, in Western countries, it is very difficult. They say, "It is impossible." Big, big men, they say, "It is impossible." Yes, it is impossible. Therefore sastra has given concession that you require sex life, but enjoy it in married life, but no illicit sex. At least, stop this. If you want to be immortal, these things are to be followed: no illicit sex, no intoxication, no meat-eating, no gambling. Then you can think of immortality, gradually. That is called tapasya. Tapasa brahmacaryena [SB 6.1.13]. Every sastra, you'll find. At least at the end of life one should be completely free from these bad habits. That is called sannyasa. Don't cheat, accept sannyasa and indulge in these things. Don't be cheater. That is very bad. Sannyasa means to take vow. In other station of life, there may be we fall down. But sannyasa means no, no falldown. Therefore we have now taken very seriously. Unless one is found completely competent to accept sannyasa, there is no more use of awarding sannyasa. So this is the process. Tapasa brahmacaryena [SB 6.1.13]. Brahmacarya is very, very essential. And that is, when one becomes detestful to sex life, that is the beginning of spiritual life. That is the beginning of spiritual life.

So immortality is not very difficult thing. Simply one has to adopt the method, process, as recommended in the sastra, and then you can become immortal. Krsna says, janma karma ca me divyam yo janati tattvatah, tyakta deham punar janma naiti... [Bg. 4.9]. Punar janma naiti -- this is immortality. The Krsna says, punar janma na. "No more punar janma." And if you have no punar janma, there is no punar death, punar vyadhaka, or punar disease. Punar means again. So if you can stop your punar janma -- no more taking birth -- that is perfection of life. Therefore it is recommended that the guardians, namely the guru, spiritual master, the father, the mother, the king, or the government. The whole system should be so centralized that people may be saved from this process of punar janma. That is real government, real parenthood, real guruism -- how to save the disciples or the citizens or the son, subordinates. They come to your shelter. Just like these children have come to the shelter of father and mother, the disciples have come to the shelter of guru. The citizens are expecting good government. So they are subordinate, expecting protection from the superior. Therefore the whole scheme should be how to protect them from repetition of death. Na mocayed yah samupeta-mrtyum. We are entangled by this process of birth, death, old age and disease, and it is the duty of the guru, duty of the father, duty of the mother, duty of the government, how to save them from this process of birth, death, old and di... That is civilization. Otherwise it is dog civilization. What is the meaning? This is civilization.

So whole Vedic system is designed in such a way that ultimately one is saved from this process of birth, death, old age and disease. Long, long ago, when Visvamitra Muni came to Maharaja Dasaratha for begging Rama-Laksmana to take them to the forest because one demon was disturbing... They could kill, but the killing business is for the ksatriyas. This is Vedic civilization. It is not the business of the brahmana. So the first reception Visvamitra Muni got from Maharaja Dasaratha, that aihistham yat punar-janma-jayaya: "You are... You great sages, saintly persons, you have given up the society. You are living alone in the forest. What is the purpose? The purpose is punar-janma-jayaya, to conquer over repetition of birth." This is the purpose. Similarly, our, this Krsna consciousness movement is also meant for the same purpose, punar-janma-jayaya, for conquering over repetition of birth and death. You should always remember this. A little mistake will spoil the whole scheme, little mistake. Nature is very strong. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14]. Very, very strong. So you all, boys and girls, those who have come from America, I am very much thankful to you. But don't be less serious. Be very serious. And another thing I'll request especially to the Americans, that America has got good potentiality to save the world, so if you preach very nicely in your country... And not all of them will be interested, but if a section of men in your country, you can turn them to become Krsna conscious, it will be great benefit to the whole world. But the aim is the same, punar-janma-jayaya: to gain victory over this process of birth, death and old age. This is not fiction; this is fact. People are not serious. But you can teach your people; otherwise, the whole human society is at risk. They are like animals, without any... Especially this communist movement is very, very dangerous -- to make a big animals. They are already animals, and this movement is making big animals.

So I am speaking to America because America is a little serious against this communistic movement. And it can be counteracted because the process is current since a very, very long time. Deva asura, devasura, the fight between the demigods and the demons. So the same fight is there in different name, "Communists and the capitalists." But the capitalists are also eighty percent, ninety percent demons. Yes. Because they do not know the science of God. That is demonic principle. So there is good chance in your country to make them, or they rectify their demonic principles. And then they will be very, (I) mean, strongly able to fight with the other demons. Because if we become deva... Deva means Vaisnava. Visnu-bhakto bhaved deva asuras tad-viparyayah. Those who are devotees of Lord Visnu, they are called devah, or demigods. And those who are just the opposite number... The opposite number, also, they have got some god. Just like the demons, they worship especially Lord Siva. Or Ravana, the example... We are not accusing unnecessarily. Ravana was a great demon, but he was devotee... Worshiping Lord Siva means to gain some material profit. And in the worshiping Visnu there is material profit. That is given by Visnu. That is not karma. But Vaisnava, they are not aspiring after any material profit. The material profit automatically comes. But they, they do not desire. Anyabhilasita-sunyam [Brs. 1.1.11]. Material profit is not their aim of life. Their aim of life -- how to satisfy Visnu, Lord Visnu. That is Vaisnava. Visnur asya devatah. Na te... And the demons, they do not know that to become Vaisnava, that is the highest perfection of life. They do not know it.

So anyway, our request is that you all young men who have taken to this path of Vaisnavism, and there is very good chance to preach this cult in your country, so even if you are not very much successful in other countries, in your country you'll be very successful. There is good potency. And try to make them stronger to fight with the demonic principles.

Thank you very much. (end)
 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 1.11 -- Mayapur, April 4, 1975
© 2001 The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International.

Wednesday, May 29, 2013

Getting God To Talk To You

Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.10
Mayapur, April 3, 1975

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Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
 

Nitai: "I offer my full obeisances unto the feet of Sri Nityananda Rama, a partial part of whom is Garbhodakasayi Visnu. From the navel of Garbhodakasayi Visnu sprouts the lotus that is the birthplace of Brahma, the engineer of the universe. The stem of that lotus is the resting place of the multitude of planets."

Prabhupada:

yasyamsamsah srila-garbhoda-sayi
yan-nabhy-abjam loka-sanghata-nalam
loka-srastuh sutika-dhama dhatuh
tam sri-nityananda-ramam prapadye
 [Cc. Adi 1.10]

We have already discussed Karanodakasayi, who is the plenary portion of Sankarsana. Now, from Karanodakasayi is Garbhodakasayi. Garbhodakasayi means this, within the womb or bottom of this universe, there is a ocean, big ocean, and in that ocean the plenary portion of Karanodakasayi Visnu enters. This is explained in the Bhagavad-gita, vistabhya aham idam krtsnam ekamsena sthito jagat [Bg. 10.42]. By one portion, the Garbho..., er, Karanodakasayi Visnu enters each universe, and within that universe He creates a ocean by His perspiration. Now, there are so many questions: "How these oceans are created?" The scientist says that it is a combination of hydrogen and oxygen gas. So wherefrom this gas came? The answer is here. Of course, from the gas, water comes out. If you cover one boiling pot, the gas, the vapor coming... And you will find spots of water. So from the gas, the water comes, and from the water, gas comes. This is nature's way. But the original water came from the perspiration of this Garbhodakasayi Visnu. Just like you have got perspiration. You can produce, say, one gram or, say, one ounce of water through your bodily heat. That we have got practical experience. So if you can produce one ounce of water from your body, why God cannot produce volumes and millions of tons of water from His body? Where is the difficulty to understand? You are a tiny soul, and you have got a small body. You can produce one ounce of water by your perspiration. Why God, who has got the gigantic body, He cannot produce water, the Garbhodakasayi, the Garbhodaka water? There is no reason to disbelieve. This is called acintya-sakti, inconceivable power.

Unless we accept inconceivable power of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, there is no meaning of God. If you think "a person" means like me or you... Yes, like me or you, God is also person. That is accepted in the Vedas: nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam (Katha Upanisad 2.2.13). There are many cetanas, living entities, and they are all eternal. They are many, plural number. Nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam. But there is another nitya, nityo nityanam, two. One is singular number, and one is plural number. What is the distinction? The distinction is eko yo bahunam vidadhati kaman. That singular number is particularly so powerful that He's supplying the necessities of all the plural number. The plural number, or the living entities, anantaya kalpate... They... You cannot count how many living entities are there. But they are to be maintained by the singular number. That is the distinction. God is person; you are also person; I am also person. We exist eternally, as it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Krsna said to Arjuna that "You, Me, all these soldiers and kings who have assembled there, it is not that they did not exist in the past. They are existing in the present, and they will continue to exist in that way in the future." That is called nityanam cetananam.

So this is the process of creation, that the Garbhodakasayi, here, Karanodakasayi Visnu, from His breathing, He created from the breathing, from the pores of the body, He created innumerable universes, and in each and every universe He entered again. And entering there, He produced a lotus flower. Within the stem of that lotus flower there are so many planets. Just see the gigantic lotus stem. These are to be known from the sastra. You cannot imagine how the creation takes place, huge creation. That sort of explanation -- "There was a chunk, and it exploded" -- no, these are not explanation. Here is the explanation, in the sastra. Sastra caksusat. You have to see by your sastric eyes, not your limited, speculative eyes. That will not help us. Such gigantic business... You are a tiny soul. Your brain is very small. You cannot imagine the process of creation by your sporadic thoughts. That is not possible. So the creation means that first of all the universes are created through the breathing period of Karanodakasayi Visnu. Then in each and every universe He enters as Garbhodakasayi Visnu, and He creates... Half of the universe is filled up with water. The water came from His perspiration, and then He lies down there. Then He creates the lotus flower. And upon the lotus flower, a Brahma is first-born. This is creation. That Brahma means not an uncivilized human being; the most intelligent person, first creation. We cannot accept the rubbish theory of Darwin that there was no human being. That is his theory. That is not fact. He admits also that "I have made this by speculation." He has admitted. Our Dr. Svarupa Damodara has quoted from his letter to a friend that he admits that he simply speculated. He has no factual knowledge. So you cannot understand the method of creation by your tiny brain's speculation. You give up this idea. This is not possible at all. You take knowledge from the sastra, from the person who is perfect in knowledge. We have got knowledge. We have got knowledge. Somebody has got more knowledge than me, than you. But Krsna says, mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya [Bg. 7.7]. You cannot find out a person who has got more knowledge than Krsna. And God means one who has got full knowledge.

aisvaryasya samagrasya
viryasya yasasah sriyah
jnana-vairagyayos caiva
sannam bhaga itingana
 (Visnu Purana 6.5.47)

So Krsna has got full knowledge, and Krsna's expansion has got full knowledge. So we have to receive knowledge. The same thing is supported in the Bhagavad-gita:

atha va bahunaitena
kim jnatena tavarjuna
vistabhya aham idam krtsnam
ekamsena sthito jagat
 [Bg. 10.42]

This whole material creation is existing in one part of His energy. That is also confirmed in the Brahma-samhita: eko 'py asau racayitum jagad-anda-koti. One part of His energy, just to create the whole universes, so..., the material world... Eko 'py asau racayitum jagad-anda koti, andantara-stha-paramanu-cayantara-stham [Bs. 5.35]. He does not enter only within the universe, andantara-stham, but He enters within the atom. Paramanu-cayantara-stham. Govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami **. Yac-chaktir asti jagad-anda-caya yad-antam. Yac-chakti, whose energy is there within the universe... And ananta. That is... The universes are ananta, unlimited. That is creation. You cannot conceive of the creation by your, this tiny brain. That is not possible. That is Dr. Frog's philosophy. He's contemplating about the Atlantic Ocean, living in a three-feet well. That's all. That is not possible.

So this is the process of... Loka-srastuh sutika-dhama dhatuh. Dhatu. Dhatu means one who creates. So Brahma is the secondary creator. Krsna, or Visnu, He creates the situation. Then He gives him a seat, that lotus-flower like, and when he was puzzled... In the beginning, everything was dark. He could not understand "Wherefrom I am coming? What is my duty? Why I am sitting here?" When he was puzzled, then from within there was dictation that "You meditate, tapah. You undergo austerities. Then you'll gradually understand." So even Brahma, the first creature of this creation, he had to meditate -- "Why I am here, and what is the purpose of my coming here?" So we are also this, in the same position. We are the, I mean to say, dynasty expansion of Brahma. Brahma's son is Manu, or this sun-god. Manusya. Manusya means coming from Manu; therefore we are called manusya. So the same process: we are born ignorant, born ignorant. Human life is the chance to dissipate this ignorance, and that requires tapasya, not to live like cats and dogs, frivolous life. That will not help us. Tapah. Tapo divyam yena putraka suddhyet sattva [SB 5.5.1]. That human life is meant for tapasya, austerities, not to live extravagant life, irresponsible life like cats and dogs. No. That is not human life. That is animal life. So therefore sastra says that you undergo austerities. Then your existence will be purified, and then pure knowledge you will get, and you will understand what is your position, why you are in this material world, why you are suffering the threefold miseries, why you are obliged to die, why you are obliged to become old man. So many things you have to learn. But if we learn like cats and dogs, then we spoil our life.

As Brahma, the first created being, had to undergo tapasya to get information from the Supreme... The Supreme Lord is within you. He's there. But He will advise. When you are fixed up by tapasya, determined with vow, then He will talk to you. He's ready to talk, but you require to acquire the qualification to hear Him. And what is that qualification? This Krsna consciousness, devotional service. As it is said in the Bhagavad-gita, tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam priti-purvakam [Bg. 10.10]. Such persons... (aside:) Don't do it. Tesam satata-yuktanam. Satata means always, twenty-four hours, not that five minutes I meditate and rest of the time I live like cats and dogs. No. This kind of meditation will not help you. Krsna says, satata. Satata means twenty-four hours. You have to mold your life in such a way that twenty-four hours you'll think of Krsna. This is Krsna consciousness. If you think, "Now I have chanted my sixteen rounds. Now I've finished my business. Now I can do whatever nonsense I like," no. Krsna says no. Satata. Therefore we have to plan our life in such a way that we haven't got any other engagement than service of Krsna. This is required. Tesam satata-yuktanam. Satata means twenty-four hours. Yukta means engaged. What for? What is that engagement? Bhajatam. Bhajatam, bhaja sevayam: to serve Krsna. Bhajatam. How? Priti-purvakam. Not that "Oh, Krsna has said. All right, let me do." No. With love and affection. Then you'll get attachment. Unless you develop love for Krsna, you cannot be engaged twenty-four hours. That is not possible. Therefore it is said, priti-purvakam: not officially, but with love. If you acquire this qualification, then you will talk with Krsna who is within your heart. Then you'll talk. He is ready to talk, but He does not talk with rascals and fools. One must acquire the qualification to talk with Krsna. Then you'll be able to talk with Deity. Within your heart Krsna is situated there. Anywhere you go, Krsna is within you, and He'll give you intelligence. Talking with Krsna means buddhi-yogam dadami tam. Tesam satata-yuktanam bhajatam priti-purvakam: [Bg. 10.10] "Those who are engaged, those who are qualified like this, then I give him intelligence."

The same thing happened to Brahma. Because he had to create this whole universe -- so many planets, so many demigods, so many human societies, so many, so many... There is no limit. He is the creator of everything. He's called, therefore, "great-grandfather," prapitamaha [Bg. 11.39]. No, pitamaha. Prapitamaha is Krsna, great-grandfather, because He instructed Brahma. So the same thing: He can instruct you also. What is that instruction? Yena mam upayanti te. The instruction means how you can go back to home, back to Godhead, that instruction, not this instruction, that "You rot in this material world in this hellish condition of life." That, no. That instruction you'll get in the colleges and universities. But Krsna's instruction is different. He'll give you instruction so that you can get rid of this hellish condition of life and go back to home and back to Godhead.

Thank you very much. (end)
 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 1.10 -- Mayapur, April 3, 1975
© 2001 The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International.

Tuesday, May 28, 2013

Big Chunk Of Nonsense



Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.9
Mayapur, April 2, 1975

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Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
 

Nitai: "I offer my full obeisances unto the feet of Sri Nityananda Rama, whose partial representation called Karanodakasayi Visnu, lying on the Karana Ocean, is the original purusa, the master of the illusory energy, and the shelter of all the universes."

Prabhupada:

maya-bhartajanda-sanghasrayangah
sete saksat karanambhodhi-madhye
yasyaikamsah sri-puman adi-devas
tam sri-nityananda-ramam prapadye
 [Cc. Adi 1.9]

Yesterday we discussed about purnaisvarya, sankarsanakhyam, nityananda-ramam, the Deity, the superintending Deity of the spiritual world. Here also, anywhere, the master is Krsna in His different forms. So just like for management we expand some secretaries, or personal representatives, similarly there is good management also in Krsna's affairs. The original person is Krsna, and His expansions, they are also as good as Krsna, but departmental.

So we have discussed yesterday that in the spiritual world, Sankarsana is the supreme manager. And so far the material world is concerned, the same person is the Supreme, but His name is different, Karanabdhisayi. In the spiritual world, the name is Sankarsana, and the material world, the supreme superintendent is also the same person, but name is different -- Karanabdhisayi. This Karanabdhisayi is maya-bharta. Bharta means husband. Just like a husband begets children in the womb of the wife, similarly, all these universes are impregnated in the total material energy, maya, by Karanabdhisayi Visnu. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita: aham bija-pradah pita.

sarva-yonisu kaunteya
sambhavanti murtayo yah
tasam mahad-yonir brahma
aham bija-pradah pita
 [Bg. 14.4]

The bija-pradah pita, the father, is the seed-giving person, and the mother is receiving the seed, and then she is impregnated and they develops the body. As we have got experience, the creation, the creative energy, this is going on, the same process, everywhere. So this Karanabdhisayi Visnu -- we have already discussed to some extent -- is the origin of this material creation. That, the scientists says, that... I do not know exactly what is their theory, but so far I have heard, that... There are so many theories. One of them is "There was a chunk, and from that, this material world..." They have no idea what is material world or spiritual world. But in that way a creation take place. Can anyone say what is the theory or..., of creation? Can any one of you say? What do they say about the creation?

Trivikrama: Their one theory is that there's a big chunk, and them from that, everything else came.

Jagadisa: It exploded.

Rupanuga: An explosion, a big bang.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Rupanuga: A big bang. An explosion.

Hamsaduta: There were some chemicals.

Prabhupada: So wherefrom the chunk came? That is not... That is their brain fag, that they are simply trying to get everything from matter. That is their material brain. But we see here that the origin is not matter. Origin is Visnu, Maha-Visnu. So Maha-Visnu is the supreme soul, maha, Maha-Visnu. So we cannot accept such nonsense theory, that chunk exploded. Where is the evidence that a chunk explodes automatically? How nonsense theory it is. We haven't got experience. There is explosion of big, big mountains when there is dynamite, and the dynamite is given by some person. So how explosion can take place without the hand of somebody else, some living entity? This simple theory they cannot understand, that where is the evidence that matter acts automatically? Where is the evidence? How you can say that there was a chunk? Suppose there was a chunk. First of all, the question will be: "Who made this chunk?" And then again, next question will be: "How explosion took place unless there was some living being to explode, as we have got experience that sometimes we explode, explode the mountain with dynamite, and that is arranged by a living being?" So they have no common sense even, and they are passing as big, big philosopher, scientist. Then where is the evidence? Can anyone say? Is there any evidence that matter explodes without a living being's touch? Is there any? No.

Pancadravida: The sun. There are so many explosions are going on in the sun every day.

Prabhupada: That is the same thing that, that vrscika-tandula-nyaya. Explosion is going on, but behind that all these explosions, all these transformations, is the Supreme Lord. That is here. And it is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita:

mayadhyaksena prakrtih
suyate sa-caracaram
hetunanena kaunteya
jagad viparivartate
 [Bg. 9.10]

They do not see who is behind this explosion. That is their ignorance or poor fund of knowledge. We have got practical experience that no explosion takes place without the touch of a human being. Similarly, even there was explosion going on, but there is a touch of the Supreme Being. That is the statement in the Bhagavad... Mayadhyaksena [Bg. 9.10]. We are seeing the explosion. Just like child sees the explosion. He does not know that there, behind the explosion, there is a management of a superior being. This is childish observation. Because in sastra we see that behind everything the hand of the Supreme Being is there, and by our practical experience also, we see that matter does not act automatically without being touched by a living being, so how we can accept this argument, that the explosion is going on automatically? What is the evidence? There is no evidence.

So this is not... Besides that, we have to accept the Vedic injunction, sastric injunction, not nonsensical theories. If we are guided by nonsensical theories, then we'll never be able to understand how things are going on.

panthas tu koti-sata-vatsara-sampragamyo
vayor athapi manaso muni-pungavanam
so 'py asti yat-prapada-simny avicintya-tattve
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami
 [Bs. 5.34]

You can go on observing, one after another, by many, many years, many, many years. Just like if you start your jet plane from here to see where is the original cause, panthas tu koti-sata-vatsara, and go on for many, many millions of years with the speed of mind, panthas tu koti-sata-vatsara-sampra... Koti-sata-vatsara... Millions and millions of years. And panthas tu koti-sata-vatsara-sampragamyo vayor athapi. These airplanes, vayu-ratha... Vayu-ratha means airplane. There is airplanes. There are different speeds. What is the speed? The speed is mental speed. Now their speed, say, eighteen thousand miles per hour. But if there is question of mental speed, it is more speedier than the vayu speed. We have got experience. Many thousand miles, by your mind, you can reach within a second. So with the mental speed, airplane, if you start today and go for many millions of years, still it will be not possible to find out wherefrom the explosion is coming. That's it.

So that is not the way. Therefore sruti-pramanam. Sruti-pramanam means from the Vedic evidence we have to understand. Now, just like in the Vedas it is said, jalaja nava-laksani. In the Vedas, all knowledge was there, all the living entities described fully and with minute, exact quantity. Now, within the water, we understand from the Vedic literature, there are 900,000 forms of aquatics. Now, the modern scientists, how many they have observed or studied? But it is said exactly, 900,000. Jalaja nava-laksani sthavara laksa-vimsati. Of course, you cannot enter within the water. But on the land, now different, and that is two million. How many species of plants and trees, and that is two million. How many the botanists have studied? Two million. Sthavara laksa-vimsati. Even in your country, in your village, you'll find daily some new vegetable. You see? So these are the Vedic calculation. And not only that, there are different species of life, and how they are working, what senses are predominant in each and every life and everything is described. Everything is very minutely described. Therefore, if we want to have knowledge, you cannot do it by mental speculation. We should know that our mind is very, very limited. Simply by theorizing, it is not possible. Therefore tad-vijnanartham sa gurum eva abhigacchet sampit-panih srotriyam brahma-nistham [MU 1.2.12]. So we have to know from the supreme authority or the Vedas. Then the knowledge will be perfect. Otherwise...

So original creative energy is coming from this Karanabdhisayi Visnu. This is confirmed in Brahma-samhita. Yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya jivanti loma-vilaja jagad-anda-nathah [Bs. 5.48]. The jagad-anda-nathah... Here it is also said, ajanda. Jagad-anda or ajanda, the same thing, or Brahmanda, the same meaning. Aja means Brahma. So the Brahma is the head of this anda. It is egglike. This whole universe is like an egg, anda. So as from the anda, from the egg, a bird is coming out; similarly, from this egglike substance, Aja has come. Aja means who does not take birth like others, human beings or animals, but from this anda. So the Karanabdhisayi Visnu another name is ajanda anghasrayanda. His whole body is producing universes. Ajanda-sanghasraya. Sanghasraya means aggregate, congregation. Just like we have got holes on the body, pores in the body. So we do not know even how many pores are there in my body, but it is a fact. We cannot, even in a localized head, we cannot count how many pores are there from which the hairs are coming. Is it possible to count? And how many pores are there in our body? This is a little body. And just imagine Maha-Visnu. Therefore His name is Maha-Visnu. From His pores of the body, the universes are coming. From His nostril, with the breathing, universes are coming. So just imagine how many universes are there. The whole body is full of potency to produce universes. And it is continually being produced. Brahma, brahma brhatvad. brhannatvat. This is the creation. And how you can accept this theory that there was a chunk and explosion and the universes became manifested? And these things are being accepted. Mudha nabhijanati mam ebhyah param avyayam. These rascals, mudhas, they do not know, and misleading... Andha yathandhair upaniyamanah [SB 7.5.31]. These rascals are blind, and they are leading some other blind men, and they are satisfied that "We have got all scientific knowledge." That's all. That is not the way of scientific knowledge. If you want scientific knowledge, then you should know from Krsna. That is scientific knowledge. Jnanam me paramam guhyam yad vijnana-samanvitam. Vijnana-samanvitam.

So we do not, I mean to say, become proud to have very, very scientific accurate knowledge by speculation. We are not such people. We are taught by the parampara system that we are humble servants of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and what our master says, we accept it. That's all. We do not like to be foolishly proud to have full knowledge of this universe, of this creation. We have full knowledge, but we understand in this way. This is called parampara system. Just like in the Vedas... Take for example the Brahma-samhita. It is spoken by Lord Brahma. Brahma has got the full knowledge. Tene brahma hrda adi-kavaye. Because the full knowledge was given..., full knowledge of creation was given to Brahma. We do not accept this nonsense theory that there was no human being, and later on, they became gradually civilized, and for the last two hundred years only they have got the intelligence, scientific knowledge. We do not accept these nonsense theories. We... Our understanding is: the first creation is the most intelligent human being, Brahma, not that there was no human being, or any living being. No. The first creation is the most perfect or intelligent living being. This is our theory. Not theory; it is the Vedic evidence. And he got full knowledge from the Supreme, tene brahma hrda adi-kavaye, adi-kavi, the original learned person, and then he compiled Vedas, giving full knowledge, what he experienced. And the Brahma-samhita is there -- it is written by Brahma. And in the Brahma-samhita, the Karanabdhisayi Visnu is mentioned, yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya jivanti loma-vilaja [Bs. 5.48]. It is not that we are accepting this verse of Caitanya-caritamrta author. No. It is confirmed by the Vedic knowledge. This is the origin of creation, not that this chunk, or... No. Matter cannot expand. Matter, when there is reaction... Just like explosion. We have got experience that there is sometimes explosion like if you mix together two chemicals, acid and alkaline, there is explosion for the time being. But this explosion takes place when a chemist in the laboratory mixes soda, soda bicarb, and citric acid. Otherwise, it is not possible.

So this is wrong theory that matter automatically takes the explosion or something like that. Matter is handled by some superior living being. Then it explodes or whatever you call. It reacts. Otherwise, it is not possible. And because the living being takes the superior position for explosion of matter or reaction of matter, therefore in the Bhagavad-gita it is admitted that the matter is handled by the living being; it is inferior energy. Both of them are energies of the Supreme Lord, but one is superior energy, another is inferior energy. That is the statement in the Bhagavad-gita. Bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh [Bg. 7.4], this material things, earth, water, air, fire, they are inferior energy. And Krsna says, apareyam: "They are inferior. There is another, superior energy." Apareyam itas tu viddhi me prakrtim param: "There is another, superior energy." And what is that superior energy? Now, jiva-bhutam, "These living entities." Jiva-bhutam maha-baho. The superior energy is not produced by the inferior energy. That is nonsense. The inferior energy is produced by the superior energy. This is perfect. We have got experience that the superior controls the inferior, not that inferior controls the superior. Where you get all this idea? Therefore it has been described as apara and para prakrti. And what is that para prakrti? Jiva-bhutam maha-baho yayedam dharyate jagat [Bg. 7.5]. The whole world is being manipulated by this superior energy. Just like we have got experience that a human being, an engineer, he is creating a skyscraper building, not that a skyscraper building is creating an engineer. Where is this theory?

So these are all nonsense, simply nonsense, mudha. Of course, we use this word mudha, and people become very angry, but what can I, can we do? (laughter) The mudhas must be explained as mudhas. And because the mudhas are going as intelligent, therefore there is chaotic condition. (bird chirping) There it is confirmed. So our Krsna consciousness movement is to become intelligent, not to remain mudhas, and to expose these rascal mudhas. That's this, our Krsna consciousness movement. So you must be prepared. While making propaganda, expose these mudhas. That is one of the service of Krsna. Don't remain foolish. Wherever there is required, fight with these mudhas and tell them rightly, straightforward, that "You are mudhas."

Thank you very much. (end)
 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 1.9 -- Mayapur, April 2, 1975
© 2001 The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust International.

Monday, May 27, 2013

Spread Krishna Consciousness, No More Anxiety



Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.8
Mayapur, April 1, 1975

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Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
 

Nitai:"I surrender unto the lotus feet of Sri Nityananda Rama, who is known as Sankarsana in the midst of the catur-vyuha consisting of Vasudeva, Sankarsana, Pradyumna and Aniruddha. He possesses full opulences and resides in Vaikunthaloka, far beyond the material creation."

Prabhupada:

mayatite vyapi-vaikuntha-loke
purnaisvarye sri-catur-vyuha-madhye
rupam yasya udbhati sankarsanakhyam
tam sri-nityananda-ramam prapadye
 [Cc. Adi 1.8]

So identification of Nityananda Prabhu. So He is the second Sankarsana also. The first Sankarsana... From Vasudeva, Sankarsana, Pradyumna, Aniruddha, four, quadruple expansions of Balarama... Then, from Sankarsana, first Sankarsana, the Narayana, four-handed Narayana, that is the next expansion, and again, from Narayana, there is another quadruple expansion, second Sankarsana, Vasudeva, Pradyumna. So the second Sankarsana also is expansion of Nityananda Rama, Balarama. So where is this Vaikunthaloka? It is rather imprudent to inquire because we cannot calculate even this material world, what is the length and breadth of this universe. This is only one universe. This is called mayika brahmananda. Mayika means shadow. Shadow... Shadow is existing on account of the real. So therefore it is called maya. Just like the example is, in your country, in the window, there are many nice model, beautiful women standing or a man standing, nicely dressed, but that is not real man or woman. That is shadow. That is called maya. This is the example of maya. Maya means it is not fact, but it appears like fact. That is called maya. Another example is... Just like the mirage, water in the desert. Actually there is no water, but it appears that there is water. The foolish animals, they run after this water, but there is no water. Simply running after will o' the wisp, phantasmagoria. So every one of us in this material world -- hankering after happiness. Everyone is trying to be happy. But it is like the same, that there is no water in the desert, and still, the foolish animal running after it.

So this whole material creation is like that. The creator of this universe, Krsna, He says, duhkhalayam asasvatam: [Bg. 8.15] "This is the place for suffering." And you are seeking after happiness. Just like in the prison house: it is the place for suffering, and if you want to be comfortable, this is called maya. Maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan [SB 7.9.43]. The whole world is running after happiness what is not possible. Therefore they have been described as vimudhan, rascal. We sometimes use this word very frequently, "rascals," and they become angry. But actually that is the description, "rascals." All these so-called civilized men, so-called civilized men, they are not men even. They're all animals. But in the sastra, they have been described as dvi-pada-pasu. They are animals, but they have got two legs. That's all. That is the difference. Animals, generally, they have four legs, catus-pada, but these animals are two-legged. That is the difference. They're animals because... The same example: In the desert there is no water, and the animal is running after it. Why he's called animal? Because he does not understand that "In the desert, how there can be water?"

So Vidyapati has sung a song, tatala saikate, vari-bindu-sama, suta-mitra-ramani-samaje. We are trying to be happy here in this material world -- how? Suta-mitra-ramani-samaje. Suta means children. Mitra means friends. Society, friendship and love, wife, children... Tata... So one may say, "Unless there is no happiness, how they are struggling for this suta-mitra-ramani-samaja?" So Vidyapati says, "Yes, there is happiness." Certainly there is happiness. Otherwise why these vimudhan, foolish people, running after it? So he says that the value of their happiness is a proportion of a drop of water in the desert. Tatala saikate. Tatala means, very hot, and saikate means sand. Those who have seen desert, they have got experience how it is intolerable during sunshine, vast, I mean to say, tract of land with sand. So naturally they require water. So if somebody says, "Yes, I'll give you water," and a drop of water... What is called? Proportionate, token. It is called token. "Yes, you want water. Take this water, drop." "What this water will do? This is desert. I want ocean of water and you are giving me drop of water? What is the value?" So still, we are seeking water there. Therefore it is rightly said, tatala saikate, vari-bindu-sama. Vari-bindu. Suta-mitra-ramani-samaje.

dehapatya-kalatradisu
atma-sainyesu asatsv api
pramattah tasya nidhanam
pasyann api na pasyati
 [SB 2.1.4]

Dehapatya-kalatradisu. This body, deha, apatya, children; kalatra, wife; adisu, with all these things... Then again extend. From children, you get... You get them married. Then again extension -- daughter-in-law, son-in-law, grandson. In this way, we are increasing our so-called happiness. Atma-sainyesu. And we are thinking that "These surrounding friends -- society, friends and love, nation -- will give me protection." In our country, we have seen. Gandhi struggled so, mean, hard for getting independence, thinking that "We'll be happy." But Gandhi himself was killed.

So this is called maya. You try to understand maya. Maya means where there is no happiness, no fact, and still, we are struggling for it. This is called maya. Try to understand what is maya. Maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan [SB 7.9.43]. Prahlada Maharaja says. Actually there is no fact, and still, we are struggling for it. The whole universe is like that. Even you are situated as Brahma or you are situated as an ordinary insignificant ant, this struggle for existence is going on. So Prahlada Maharaja says that "These rascals, they are struggling for existence for happiness which is not possible in this material world. And beyond this struggling atmosphere of material world, maya atite..." Atite. Atite means beyond. Mayatite vyapi-vaikuntha-loke. There is another world. That is also informed in the Bhagavad-gita. Parah tasmad tu bhava anyah 'vyaktavyaktat sanatanah. There is another bhava. Bhava means nature. Just like this is nature. We have got experience, the maya. Maya nature means here our main aim is to find out happiness. That is... Because we are spirit soul, part and parcel of Krsna, sac-cid-ananda-vigraha [Bs. 5.1] Krsna, so we are also minute sac-cid-ananda. Our existence is like that. But because we are very small, therefore that, I mean to say, quality, sat, becomes sometimes extinguished. The example is just like the spark of the fire. It is fire. A spark from the fire falls on your body. As soon as it falls it will burn that small pointlike place. So it has got the same quality. But as soon as it comes out of the fire, it becomes extinguished -- no more fire. It is carbon. Again take it and put it in the fire, then again it is fire. So our position is like that. We are factually of the same quality, sac-cid-ananda. So our falling down in this material world from Krsna means we lose our identity of eternity. It becomes covered. Just like the same small spark. It is fire, but it is now extinguished, cinder, just like coal, cinder. So long it is with the original fire, it is also burning, but if you take it and keep it aside, then it becomes ashes. So this is our position. And we are struggling here. We have lost the fiery quality, and still, we are trying to be fire. This is called maya existence.

So there is another world. That information is given here. Mayatite vyapi. Vyapi means very extensive. This whole material world is one-fourth of Krsna's expansion, one-fourth. And that Vaikunthaloka is three-fourths. So therefore it is called vyapi. Vyapi means very extensive. We cannot calculate even this material existence. It is only one-fourth. Now, how it will be possible for us to calculate the vyapi vaikuntha-loka? Vyapi-vaikuntha-loka. Vaikuntha means... Vi means without, and kuntha means anxiety. So Vaikunthaloka means there is no anxiety. There is no anxiety. Here we are full of anxieties in this material... Even big, big businessman, who has got enough money, you'll find he is in anxiety. He's always thinking, "How this business will go on? How this, maintain so many men?" So I have seen it that our printer, Dai Nippon, the president, when we, for the temporary, we stopped our business, he was full of anxiety. Yes. Now they have agreed to reduce ten percent more than any printer. Why? He was full of anxiety. (laughter) This is the fact. So don't think that very big, big businessman or one who has got enough money, he has no anxiety. Anxiety there should be. This is the place of anxiety, kuntha. Prahlada Maharaja pointed it out that tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat [SB 7.5.5]. Here, in this material world, whoever is there... The Brahma is also anxiety, in full of anxiety. Indra... You know. Prthu Maharaja was sacrificing hundred times, and Indra became very much anxious that "If Prthu becomes so great, then he may occupy my seat." So he wanted to put hindrances so that he may not fulfill the so many yajnas.

So everyone is anxiety in this material world, maya. So our Krsna consciousness movement is to take a person or all of them from this maya to Vaikuntha. That is the Krsna consciousness, to save the living entity from anxiety and bring him to the platform of no anxiety. That is the difference, from anxiety to no anxiety. That is the greatest gift to the human society. Everyone is full of anxiety because he is in this material world. He must be full of anxiety. So here the information is given, mayatite vyapi-vaikuntha-loke: "There is another atmosphere, another nature, where there is no anxiety, no anxiety." Kalpa-vrksa-laksavrtesu surabhir abhipalayanatam. Here we are keeping cows, but no milk-anxiety. Thousands of rupees' spending, and no milk, powdered milk. You see? This is the position, full of anxiety, always. So you cannot be free from anxiety in this loka. Therefore in this life, in human form of life, you can understand by cultivating knowledge from the sastra, from guru, from saintly persons, "What is the position? What I want? Why I am full of anxiety? How it can be mitigated?" So therefore this information is given vaikuntha-loka, back to home. Yad gatva na nivartante tad dhamam paramam mama [Bg. 15.6].

So Krsna consciousness movement is the only endeavor where, by becoming Krsna conscious you become transferred from this maya to Vaikuntha. This is the purport. Mayatite, beyond this maya, there is another kingdom where there is no kuntha, vaikuntha-loke. And there is management. As here there is management, the king or president, or ministers and so many things, there is also management. But that management is conducted by the Supreme Personality of Godhead personally. Here the president or king manages whole thing. And therefore the ideal manager or the executive head is a person who is a saintly person and devotee. That is wanted. In politics also, there is need of devotees. The devotee... The politicians, they first require to understand Krsna consciousness if they actually want to do good to others. If they remain like animals, it is not possible. Then whole world, the people, will suffer. That is the position now. There is no standard ruler. A ruler must be representative of Krsna. Then... Then everything will be... Just like Maharaja Yudhisthira. Maharaja Yudhisthira was representative of Krsna. Or Lord Ramacandra, He was God Himself. Such executive head needed, not these rascals. Then you'll never be happy. Simply by hook and crook you select some rascal president; you'll never be happy. He must be Krsna Himself or Krsna's representative. Then people will be happy. Imam rajarsayoh viduh. They are thinking that "The Bhagavad-gita is meant for some parasites. They are doing nothing, and they are indulging in reading Bhagavad-gita and living at the cost of others." They are thinking like that. But actually the ruler should be the well-conversant student of Bhagavad-gita. That is the statement in the Bhagavad-gita. Imam rajarsayoh viduh. It is meant for the saintly kings. Because if the king or the president understands Bhagavad-gita, he can make solution of all the problems. But he remains a rascal, and there is no solution. They're simply fighting with one another. This politician is fighting with another politician. This is going on. This will never make us happy. Therefore it is better to go away from this place and go back to home, back to Godhead.

Devotees: Jaya!

Prabhupada: Don't try to be happy under these rascals. It will never be possible. That is the instruction of all sastras, and therefore...

Now, the question was who is to be elected in the..., or accepted as the ideal king. Our Pancadravida Maharaja was asking this question. That is very simple thing. The ksatriyas... There are two ksatriya families, and still they claim, one from the sun-god, and one from the moon-god. Candra-vamsa, surya-vamsa. In this material world, there are two ksatriya families. Ksatriyas are meant for ruling over. So everything is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. So you have to select ruler from these two dynasties. Actually. Imam rajarsayo viduh [Bg. 4.2]. You have seen the picture drawn by our artists, that Krsna is instructing the sun-god. Imam vivasvate yogam proktavan aham avyayam [Bg. 4.1]. So Vaikuntha-loka is there. There is no problem. But you can make this maya-loka also Vaikuntha-loka by spreading Krsna consciousness, the same quality. Just like iron is iron, but you can make it fire. How? Simply putting it into the fire. Gradually, warm, warmer, then it becomes red hot. At that time, the iron is no longer iron; it is fire. Similarly, if you can propagate Krsna consciousness constantly, then, by spreading this Krsna consciousness movement, you can make the whole world Krsna conscious, and then it will be Vaikuntha. The same example. You put the iron rod with the fire, and it becomes hot, hotter and then red-hot. When it is red-hot then it is no more iron rod. It is fire. Anywhere you touch, it will burn.

So our Krsna consciousness movement is for that purpose. Increase Krsna consciousness and there will be no more kuntha, no more anxiety. People are trying to be anxiety-less, and that is only possible by this movement. Put always in touch with Krsna. And the method is very simple -- Hare Krsna. That all. If you keep yourself in touch with Hare Krsna... We have already been known as Hare Krishna people all over the world, Hare Krishna people. So increase this population, Hare Krishna people, and it will be Vaikuntha.

Thank you very much. (end)
 

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