Making The World Truly Aryan

Making The World Truly Aryan

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.25-26
Los Angeles, December 4, 1973



 

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Pradyumna: "Translation: O King, as in the ocean the bigger and stronger aquatics swallow up the smaller and weaker ones, so also the Supreme Personality of Godhead, to lighten the burden of the earth, has engaged the stronger Yadu to kill the weaker, and the bigger Yadu to kill the smaller."

Prabhupada: This is the theory of struggle for existence and survival of the fittest. The law of nature is like that, that the stronger overpowers the weaker. The stronger overpowers the weaker. In another place it is stated,

ahastani sahastanam
apadani catus-padam
phalguni tatra mahatam
jivo jivasya jivanam

A living entity, they live by eating another living entity. What is that? Ahastani sahastanam. Sahastanam means those who are endowed with hands. That means man, man form, human form, they have got hands. So those who have no hands..., just like the animals, they have got legs, they have no hands. So ahastani, those who have no hands, they are food for the animal with hands: bite that animal. Those animal with hands... They are animal, those who are eating another animal; they are not human being. Although they have got the form of human being, they are not considered human being. Human being means when he's civilized, cultured, then he's human being. If he's not civilized, if he's not cultured, simply having two hands -- he's animal.

So that culture begins, civilized, in the Aryan families. Therefore they are called Aryans, "advanced." Aryan means advanced. People want to group themselves in the Aryan family. Just like Hitler, he declared himself only, "The Germans are only Aryans, and Jews are not Aryans," like that. You can manufacture. But real Aryan means one who is advanced in spiritual consciousness. He is Aryan. Not a class of men. Aryan means he's advanced in spiritual consciousness. The Aryan civilization is so eulogized because they..., in the Aryan civilization there was Vedic culture. That is Aryan. Otherwise ahastani sahastanam, and that is apadani catus-padam. This is going on, struggle for existence. In the primitive age that human being, so-called human being, naked, in the jungle, they eating animals. The animals have no leg... The Darwin's theory is that there was no civilized man, but gradually it has developed. It is not very clearly explained; he does not know what is the evolution. Evolution means to become civilized. That is evolution. Or to advance in Krsna consciousness. That is evolution.

So this is the law of nature, that the weaker section is devoured by the stronger section. So here it is said, jalaukasam jale yadvat. In the water, there are so many aquatic animals, the struggle is going on. The stronger fish eating the weaker fish. This is going on. That is the law of nature. Therefore meat-eaters, so long they are like animals, they can go on with this nature's law. You are man, you are stronger; therefore weaker animal -- cows and goats -- you slaughter them. They are stronger bodily, but they have no intelligence. So man has got intelligence. So if you misuse your intelligence in that way, you can do that. That is nature's law. But human being means culture, advance, in spiritual consciousness. That is human. So this consciousness is developing gradually.

So unless you come to this platform, as Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [Bg. 4.13], then you must divide the society. Amongst the animals, there is no division. Everyone is on the same status. No. Because the aim is how to develop Krsna consciousness. Therefore there must be some system. So that system, unless one comes to the platform of this varnasrama-dharma, four divisions, social divisions, and four spiritual divisions, and those divisions are made by Krsna Himself, maya srstam, He says. That is natural. But by such institution we can gradually understand what is the aim of life.

varnasramacaravata
purusena parah puman
visnur aradhyate pantha
nanyat tat-tosa-karanam

Our... What is the aim of life? The aim of life is that we are now detached from God. This is our position. Material life means detached from God, detached from Krsna. So this detachment is the cause of suffering.

mukha-bahuru-padebhyah
purusasyasramaih saha
catvaro jajnire varna
gunair vipradayah prthak

We are different parts and parcels of Krsna, God, so we must act accordingly. Just like my hand. Hand is there. If the hand is in proper place, he can act nicely. But if I cut the leg and make hand or hand make the leg, then it is all lost. All lost. One must act according to his qualification. That, according to that qualification, the brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, they are described in the Bhagavad-gita. This brahmana means, these are the symptoms, satyam samo damas titiksa arjavam, jnanam vijnanam astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam. This is human civilization. We must train people in such a way that we must see there what is his quality. According to quality. Just like a physician gives medicine according to the symptom of the disease, then it is cured. Not that any medicine. In the drug house, there are so many medicines. You cannot say "Any medicine will do." No. It is the physician who will pick up the real medicine and he'll administer to the patient. Then he'll be cured.

So this varnasrama-dharma means catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [Bg. 4.13], from the animal position of the human being, to bring him to the human position. That is varnasrama-dharma. Just (as in) school (or) college, to become graduate means to become distinguished from the fools and rascals. Similarly, human being does not mean the struggle for existence as the one big fish is eating another small fish, another is... No, no, that is not human. That is natural, but you have to rectify the natural position for the..., for realization of the utmost aim of life. That is human life. Not to treat like animals. Sa eva go-kharah [SB 10.84.13]. So that spiritual consciousness begins when one understands that he is soul; he is not this body, he is spirit soul, aham brahmasmi. Brahman means the spirit soul. And there human civilization begins. Otherwise, anarya, anarya-justam. Krsna, when Arjuna was declining to fight, He chastised him that "This denial is anarya-justam. It is befitting for the anarya, those who are not advanced. One must do his duty. You are a ksatriya, your duty is to fight to give protection to the citizen, so why you are denying this?"

So here the example is given, jalaukasam jale yadvan mahantah adanti. Adanti means swallows up. Similarly, when the Yadus became very powerful... Because they are descendants of Krsna, who can be...? So they were fighting anywhere, conquering anywhere, and everywhere they were victorious. So that was bhu-bharan. Bhu-bharan means burden of the world. When one becomes extravagant and misuses his power, that is burden of the world. You cannot misuse your... You get power by the grace of God, by grace of Krsna. If you misuse it, then you become a burden, a burden. As soon as there is burden, then it is dharmasya glanih. Krsna says, yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati [Bg. 4.7]. As soon as there is a misuse of power, tadatmanam srjamy aham, He comes. So Yadu-vamsa, Krsna's dynasty, when Krsna saw that they are becoming so powerful, that unnecessarily they are fighting, therefore to kill them, that fighting spirit was engaged for fighting amongst themselves, one another. Therefore they were all... Fighting, there is necessity; but if you misuse that fighting spirit...

Just like at the present moment the politicians, as soon as they see that they cannot manage things, in the country there is confusion, they declare some war so that the whole attention may be turned that side, and there will be no agitation of the internal dissatisfaction. This is diplomacy. This is diplomacy. We have seen it in Pakistan. As soon as they cannot rule over, they cannot, but they (indistinct), "Oh, the Hindus are our enemy. Kashmir, he has taken." Attention is diverted and they declare war, and again become defeated. So this kind of war is not required. This kind of war is not required. But war is there already, struggle for existence. Just like here, when Krsna saw that the Yadu dynasty is becoming... On the strength of Krsna, they have become so powerful that they (are) unnecessarily fighting, so Krsna wanted that His family, may be..., it may not be degraded farther, so He wanted to kill them. And who can kill them? No outsider can kill them, they are Krsna's descendants, that is not possible. Therefore yadun yadubhir anyonyam bhu-bharan sanjahara ha, they fighting amongst themselves, they reduced the burden of the world.

So it is... Krsna is exhibiting how things are going on. As soon as there will be burdensome, there will be some war, pestilence, famine -- and finished. And finished. You don't require to reduce population by contraceptive method. By nature's way, the wholesale it will be reduced, bhu-bharan sanjahara. By nature's way. Why should you commit sinful activities? You don't beget children unnecessarily and don't kill them. That is religion. That is civilization. Why should you unnecessarily produce children like cats and dog? Their sastra says that don't become father, don't become mother if you cannot save your sons from death. This is the responsibility. This is father's, mother's, responsibility. Na mocayed yah samupeta-mrtyum, pita na sa syaj janani na sa syat. One should not become, try to become father, one should not try to become mother if the parents cannot save the child from imminent death. That is the responsibility. And who is that father? Who is that mother? This is Vedic civilization. My Guru Maharaja used to say that "I am a sannyasi. I am not married, neither I am meant for marrying. But if I can produce Krsna conscious children, I can marry hundred times." That is the responsibility. Don't produce cats and dogs; produce Krsna devotees. Then you'll marry. Otherwise don't marry. This is Vedic injunction. Marriage is not meant for sense gratification. Marriage is meant for producing nice children, Krsna devotees.

So that is our aim. Our aim is not to produce cats and dogs. There are so many cats and dogs, the world is not happy. Now there is need of producing nice children, sober, gentle, devotee of Krsna, good brain, good character. These things are required. So they were not unwanted children, these Yadus. This is a make-show (indistinct) other. They came, they are all demigods, they descended just to fulfill Krsna's mission. Krsna's mission, Krsna came down so all the confidential servants of Krsna, they also appeared to help Him in different... So when Krsna wanted to go, He wanted to go with the descendants also, who came to help Him. So this is a make-show that the Yadus fought amongst themselves. The real purpose is, Krsna wanted to take them away. Otherwise, superficially, when one becomes unnecessarily powerful, disturbs the world situation, he's a burden. He's a burden. That kind of burden is vanquished by Krsna's desire, will. There must be some catastrophe like war, pestilence, famine, and everything will be finished.

So our duty is, the human form of life, duty is that we should know that we are eternal servant of Krsna and, forgetting our relationship, we have come to this material world, and there is struggle for existence, beginning aquatics, jalaja nava... There are nine hundred thousand species of aquatics. Who is that physiologist who can know nine hundred thousand species of aquatics? But in the sastra you will find, exactly. It doesn't say nine hundred one, Or eight hundred ninety-nine. No. Nine hundred. Nine hundred thousand species, there are. So because we are in the material contact, and according to our desire, we are having different types of body -- aquatics, trees, birds, like that. This is our botheration. Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi, in this way you are... This is our problem. Therefore human civilization means when people are interested to solve the problems. That is human civilization. Otherwise animal. Struggle for existence. They... There is no human side, that is on the animal side, struggle for existence. Human life is not for struggle. To become sober, not like animals. The animals are engaged whole day and night for searching out food and sense gratification, sex. That is not human civilization.

Human civilization is meant for tapasya, tapasya. You should know what is my responsibility. Tapasa brahmacaryena samena ca damena ca [SB 6.1.13]. One should learn how to practice tapasya. Tapasya. This is tapasya, little tapasya. No illicit sex, no gambling, no meat-eating, and no intoxication, this is tapasya, little tapasya. Who is dying without meat-eating? We have got so many students. There are so many Vaisnavas, they do not eat meat. Are they dying? This is only bad habit. But if you practice little... In the beginning it may be little troublesome. It is not troublesome. I am thinking... Just like one gentleman came, "We cannot give up meat-eating. I want, but I cannot." Practice. Abhyasa-yoga-yuktena cetasa [Bg. 8.8]. Anything you practice, habit is the second nature. So in association of the devotee, if you try to practice this tapasya... Tapasa brahmacaryena [SB 6.1.13], not to have sex life without any purpose, that is called brahmacari. Brahmacari does not mean celibacy. Brahmacari means who does not use sex life for any other purpose than begetting nice children. He is brahmacari.

So this is... Everything should be systematic otherwise there will be chaos. There will be chaos. Nobody will be happy and... That is described in the Bhagavad-gita, naraka eva kalpate: the whole world will be hell. That has become now. The whole world has now become hell. So the Krsna consciousness movement is very important movement. It is overhauling the whole human, social, political, religious... So those who are engaged in Krsna consciousness movement, they should be very, very responsible, sober, try to understand the situation and take the shelter of Krsna, and everything will come very successful.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.25-26 -- Los Angeles, December 4, 1973

You Think You Can Bluff

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.24
Los Angeles, December 3, 1973



 

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Pradyumna: Translation: "Factually, this is all due to the supreme will of the Lord, the Personality of Godhead. Sometimes people kill one another, and at other times they protect one another."

Prabhupada: Now read the purport also.

Pradyumna: "According to the anthropologists, there is nature's law of struggle for existence and survival of the fittest. But they do not know that behind the law of nature, there is the supreme direction of the Supreme Lord Personality of Godhead. In the Bhagavad-gita it is confirmed that the law of nature is executed under the direction of the Lord. Whenever therefore there is peace in the world, it must be known that it is due to the good will of the Lord, and whenever there is upheaval in the world, it is also due to the supreme will of the Lord. Not a blade of grass moves without the will of the Lord. Whenever, therefore, there is disobedience of the established rules enacted by the Lord, there is war between men and nations. The surest way to the path of peace is, therefore, dovetailing everything to the established rule of the Lord. The established rule is that whatever we do, whatever we eat, whatever we sacrifice, whatever we give in charity, must be done to the full satisfaction of the Lord. No one should do anything, eat anything, sacrifice anything, or give anything in charity against the will of the Lord. Discretion is the better part of valor, and one must learn how to discriminate between actions which may be pleasing to the Lord and those which may not be pleasing to the Lord. An action is thus judged by the Lord's pleasure or displeasure. There is no room for personal whims. We must always be guided by the pleasure of the Lord. Such action is called yoga-karmasu kausalam, or actions performed which are linked with the Supreme Lord. That is the art of doing a thing perfectly."

Prabhupada: (aside:) That child... So the Fifteenth Chapter of the Bhagavad-gita, the statement is there by Krsna,

sarvasya caham hrdi sannivisto
mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca
vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyo
vedanta-krd veda-vid eva caham
 [Bg. 15.15]

Actually, everyone is suffering or enjoying. There is no enjoyment, only suffering. But the struggle for existence, to counteract the suffering, we take it as enjoying. Actually there is no enjoying.

In the Bhagavad-gita you know... (aside:) It is disturbing, the child. In the Bhagavad-gita that... What I was speaking? Enjoying and suffering. Bhagavad-gita, Krsna says that "This place..." The supreme authority says, "This place, this material world, is duhkhalayam asasvatam: [Bg. 8.15] it is the place for suffering." That is a fact. One person is trying to accept suffering as enjoying, and another person is trying to end actually suffering. This is the difference between sane and insane person. I'll give you a practical example, that in the prison, government prison house, there are some prisoners who are called first-class prisoners. They are given special favor by the government. So... And there are third-class prisoners also. But both of them are prisoners. And prison is not meant for comfortable life. It is meant for suffering. The Bhaktivinoda Thakura therefore sings, anadi karama-phale pari' bhavarnava-jale taribare na dekhi upaya. One who is sane person, he knows that "I may be first-class prisoner, that does not mean I am not prisoner. I am prisoner." The suffering of the prison house, that I have no independence to do anything, that is prison life.

We are, everyone is thinking that we are independent, but that is not the fact.

prakrteh kriyamanani
gunaih karmani sarvasah
ahankara-vimudhatma
kartaham iti manyate
 [Bg. 3.27]

Actually, everybody is being carried by the laws of material nature, but a foolish person is thinking that he is doing himself. So here it is said that prayena etad bhagavata isvarasya vicestitam. We cannot do anything without the will of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Just like in state you cannot do anything without the sanction of the government, similarly the supreme state, the supreme order-giver, Krsna or God, without His sanction we cannot do anything. But here it is said that mitho nighnanti bhutani bhavayanti ca yan mithah. Sometimes by His will we kill one another, and sometimes we give protection one another. So does it mean that in different time Krsna is giving different intelligence? No. Krsna's action is daiva, superior. Just like the high court, the judge is... Somebody condemning somebody that "This man should be hanged," and other man, "Yes, he must get the degree. He will get the millions of dollars from that person." Now, is he partial? He is giving somebody millions of dollars and somebody is ordered to be hanged. Is he partial? No. He is not partial. He is simply administering the law. That's all. This man has created such a situation that he should be condemned to death, and this man has created such situation that he will be rewarded by ten thousand and millions of dollars. It is his action.

Karmana daiva-netrena. We are acting, and daiva-netrena, by superior administration, daiva-netrena, we are getting different types of body, and suffering or enjoying the consequence. This is our position. Krsna is... God is... It is said in the Bhagavad-gita, samo 'ham sarva-bhutesu: "I am equal to everyone." Otherwise how He is God? God is not partial, that somebody should be killed and somebody should be rewarded with ten thousand dollars. No. It is our own work, we create such situation. That you should know. We forget. Now, somebody I kill in my last life. Just like here, if I kill somebody, then I shall be killed also, by the law, nature or law of God. Similarly, I forget that because I kill somebody, now that somebody is killing me. So forget. But Krsna reminds, "Now this person killed you," or "This child killed you last life. Now you can kill in the womb. Now you kill." Vicestitam. He reminds. Because Krsna is described: anumanta. Anumanta upadrasta. He is witness. Now this man has killed this man. Now he gets the opportunity to kill him again. And Krsna reminds you, "Kill him. Here is opportunity." This is the position. Don't think when it is said that isvarasya vicestitam, it is by the will, that will, because He is equal to everyone, so everyone should get chance to retaliate. That is going on.

So God is not partial, He is impartial. Samo 'ham sarva-bhutesu na me dvesyo 'sti na priyah. Nobody in the material world... Just like jail superintendent or the government. The government is not partial. Government is equal to everyone, but everyone is enjoying or suffering according to his own work. So that is reminded. That is reminded and sanction given that "This body, this being, killed you in your last life. Now I give you sanction, you can kill him." This is called nighnanti. Mitho nighnanti. And "This man gave you protection, so you give him protection." So what is the wrong there? There is nothing wrong. It is equal justice. Because... Don't think that because God or Krsna gives sanction, vicestitam, therefore He is partial. No. He is always impartial. We are suffering our own activities. Karmana daiva-netrena. We are getting different types of bodies, suffering.

Now... Therefore we should always try to understand the will of God. That is our duty. That will of God we can understand in the human form of life. That is an opportunity. Will of God is expressed very clearly. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. That is said already. Nobody can say "What is the will of God? I do not know." No, you know. He says, God says, Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. "You give up all other business. You just become surrendered to Me." "And then how shall I pull on? Aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami: "I shall give you protection. I will give you protection and I shall release you from the effects of all sinful activity."

Because we suffer on account of sinful activities. And we enjoy by pious activity. That is the law. If you become nicely educated, cultured, then you get good position in the society. But if you are a rascal, then you suffer. Similarly, we are creating our position. But that... That is called karma-bandhana. Karma-bandhana means so long we do not know what is our duty, we create our position differently and therefore sometimes we suffer, sometimes we enjoy. Therefore we must know what is our duty. That we have forgotten. Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum [SB 7.5.31]. In this material condition of life we have forgotten what is our actually aim of life. Therefore Krsna comes. Yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata, tadatmanam srjamy aham [Bg. 4.7]. Our duty, when we forget our dharma, that is called dharmasya glanih. Dharma is not a religious sentiment. Dharma means our occupational duty, real meaning. I think I have given in Srimad-Bhagavatam. So when we forget our duty, that is called dharmasya glanih. Glanih means deterioration of our real occupational duty.

So our real occupational duty is to serve the Supreme. That is our real occupational duty. We are meant for serving. But when we forget serving Krsna and we try to serve so many other things... That means... "So many other things" means our lust, our greediness, our illusion, our so many problems we serve. We have to serve. That is our position. Nobody can be free from service. That is not possible. But we do not know where to give our service. That is forgetfulness. Kamadinam kati na katidha na palita durnidesah. Here, the human being in ignorance, they are serving the kama, lust, greediness, moha, anger -- so many things they are serving. They are serving. A man is killing another body by lust, lusty desires. Or by illusion. So many other reasons. So we are serving. There is no doubt about it. We are serving. But we are serving our kama, krodha, lobha, moha, matsarya. Lust, desire, avarice, like that.

Now we have to learn that we have been frustrated by serving so many things. Now we have to turn that service attitude to Krsna. That is Krsna's mission. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja: [Bg. 18.66] "You are serving already. You cannot be free from service. But your service is misplaced. Therefore you just turn your service unto Me. Then you become happy." That is Krsna consciousness movement. Kamadinam kati na katidha palita durnidesah. Because we are greedy... Just like a greedy man, he is suffering by eating more. There are so many diseases, just like diabetes or dysentery. There are so many things. These are the diseases for eating more. That's all. So we are suffering; at the same time, we are eating more. Because we are greedy, we are lusty. This is the cause. So therefore kamad... We are serving. We are serving our lust, our greediness, and suffering. This is practical. If you have no hunger, if you eat... If you have no appetite, if you eat, then you suffer. If you infect some disease, you'll suffer. That is practical. So we are associating in, being infected by lust, greediness, illusion, fearfulness, so many things. Sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat. If you steal, then you will be under fearfulness: "Oh, I may not be arrested; I may be arrested." Because you have done that, asad-grahat, you have done something wrong, therefore you are under the influence of fearfulness. It is very easy to understand.

So we are creating our situation and serving a different type of desire. That's all. Kamadinam katidha na... And sometimes we are doing something which we should not do. Still, we are doing. But doing so, tesam karuna jata. Although we have done so much for to serve the lust, greediness, but they are not merciful. They are still dictating, "Go on doing this, go on doing this, go on doing." He is suffering; still, he is following the dictation of lust and desire. We are creating our own karma. Therefore any sane man will see that "I have served so long, so much, our desires, but I am not happy. I am not happy, neither the desire is happy." The desire is never satiated that "You have killed so many animals. Now you don't..." No, he will go on, go on killing, killing, killing, killing, killing, killing. He is never satisfied, "Now I have killed so many. No more, stop." No, there is no stoppage. That will go on. Kamadinam kati na katidha. The injunction is "Thou shalt not kill," but he will kill and kill and kill and kill, and still, he want to be satisfied. Just see. The Bible says, "Thou shalt not kill," and they are simply engaged in killing business, and still they want to be happy. Just see the fun. Therefore Krsna says, "Yes, you be killed by occasional world war. You must be killed. You have created this situation. You must be killed. You may be American or Englishman or German or this or that. You may be very proud of your nationality. But you must be killed." This is the position. Isvarasya vicestitam. "You have killed so many animals. Now wholesale killing, one bomb. One atom bomb. Be killed."

So these rascals they do not know how things are going on. Isvarasya vicestitam. "Tit for tat." There must be. If in ordinary laws, in the state laws, that if you have killed somebody you must be hanged, so do you think you can simply bluff the Supreme Authority, Krsna, that you are going, killing, killing, killing, and you will be saved? No. You will be killed in pestilence, in famine. Even within your mother's womb, you will be killed, where it is supposed to be good protection, there also you will be killed. The human nation being degenerated in such a way, the killing business is increasing daily, daily, daily. Isvarasya vicestitam.

So we therefore must submit to Krsna. Sarva-dharman parityajya... [Bg. 18.66]. Because we cannot become free. We cannot go out of the laws of God. That is not possible. Therefore we must surrender that "Krsna, God, I have acted freely so many births. I did not become happy. Neither I am happy at the present moment. So now I surrender unto You. You say that ‘I give you protection.' So kindly give me protection." This is Krsna consciousness movement.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.24 -- Los Angeles, December 3, 1973

Intoxication

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.22-23
Los Angeles, December 2, 1973



 

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Pradyumna: Translation: "O King, since you have asked me about our friends and relatives in the city of Dvaraka, I will inform you that all of them were cursed by the brahmanas, and as a result they all became intoxicated with wine made of purified rice and fought among themselves with sticks, not even recognizing one another. Now all but four or five of them are dead and gone."

Prabhupada: I think this editing was wrong, "purified." What is called, fermented, petrified? Putrefied. So instead of "putrefied," it has been "purified." Editing. Yes, rice... They, in India still... Because in India still, no gentleman, brahmana, at least brahmanas, those who are strictly following brahmana principles, they do not drink. Neither the ksatriyas. Ksatriyas, they are allowed to drink in some particular function. That is also very rarely. And vaisyas, they do not drink. Sudras, some of them. Those who are less than sudras, they drink, and they make their own liquor at home. They boil the rice, and with water, they keep it for few days, it becomes fermented, putrefied, and it becomes intoxicating, home-made liquor. And if you distill it, then it becomes first-class, brandy. So it is not that liquor drinking was not existing. There was. But who drunk, that is stated here, that vipra-sapa-vimudhanam, those who were cursed, vimudhanam. And being cursed, they were bewildered. Vipra-sapa.

The story is that Yadu-vamsa, the dynasty of Krsna... Krsna had 16,108 wives, and each wife had ten sons, and each son had another ten sons. In this way the whole family was composed of hundreds and thousands of men, Yadu dynasty. And when Krsna came, so to assist Him, all these demigods, they came to help Him, lila. Just like if you play something dramatic, you require so many assistants, so when Krsna comes, those who are devotees of Krsna, they also come to assist Him. Somebody becomes His father, somebody His mother, somebody His friend, somebody His wife, somebody His son, some grandson, like that. So when Krsna wanted to depart from this planet, He wanted to take away all others also along with Him. So these are simply material, external causes. Actual fact is Krsna, as He went away, He wanted to take all the associates under different pleas.

So it is explained in the Bhagavatam that queens, the were they not actually... Nobody can touch them. Just like Sita. Sita was kidnapped by Ravana. How it is possible that Sita can be kidnapped by a demon? No. That is stated in the Caitanya-caritamrta, that Lord Caitanya, He was a guest of a brahmana in South India. So He took His bath and came to the house of that brahmana, but the brahmana did not arrange for any cooking even. There was no food. He was very sorry. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu inquired, "Brahmana, you invited Me, but I don't see even you have cooked. What is the reason?" "Oh, yes, I am going to cook immediately. The thing is, I am very sorry that Ravana, the demon, has taken away Sita, and I could not rescue her still. So why shall I eat? I shall die." He was in the ecstasy of Hanuman, a devotee. He was thinking like Hanuman. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu very much liked that he is, in devotion and in ecstasy of Hanuman, he is thinking like that. So at that time Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, "So don't be sorry. Sita, Laksmiji, she cannot be touched by Ravana. It was maya Sita, maya Sita. I will tell you. I will give you evidence from the sastra." So brahmana believed Him because Caitanya... "Oh, she is there? Sita was not taken? A maya Sita was taken?" "Yes." Then he become encouraged. He cooked and sufficiently gave Him food.

So by chance, when Caitanya Mahaprabhu was touring in South India... The Puranas, Siva Purana or something like that, it is stated there. And He brought the evidence again, that "Here you see, in the Purana it is said that when Ravana came to kidnap Sita, immediately a false Sita was given to him, and the real Sita disappeared. Then again, when Lord Ramacandra, after killing Ravana, He was accepting Sita back to home, He tested with fire, that ‘Sita, you should enter the fire, and if you are not burned, then you are chaste. Otherwise you are not chaste.' Yes. So the false Sita which was taken by Ravana, she entered the fire, and the real Sita came out." This is the statement in the sastra.

So things take place like that. The queens of Krsna, they could not be touched. But it is a play only. Similarly, Yadu dynasty, the descendants of Krsna, they also could not be killed. But... Just like Krsna was killed by the arrow of a hunter. How Krsna can be killed? But it is for the persons, for the demons, to demonstrate like that, who thinks Krsna as ordinary human being. So for them it is a jugglery. They will still know that "Here your Krsna is killed." Yes. They will say like that. So tan aham dvisatah kruran ksipamy ajasram asura-yonisu. The demons, as they want to forget Krsna, or they do not like to understand Krsna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna plays something like that so that they will be more convinced that Krsna is not God, Krsna is ordinary human being. Tan aham dvisatah kruran. They will remain in darkness forever. Krsna gives chance to everyone. If you want to forget Krsna, Krsna will give you such intelligence, you will talk so intelligently that "Krsna is not God." Ye yatha mam prapadyante. And if you want to know Krsna, then He will give you such intelligence, you will know that "Here is Supreme Personality of Godhead." This is Krsna's busin... If you want to forget Krsna, Krsna will give you chance to forget Him forever. And you suffer. Because forgetting Krsna, one is not benefited. By knowing Krsna is one benefited. But the demons, raksasas, they suffer, and still they want to forget Krsna. This is their business.

So now the most important thing is that Krsna made this plan to kill His descendants. He did not like that they should, but who will kill them? That is the problem. They are descendants of Krsna. Who will kill them? Therefore it was Krsna's plan that they will kill themselves. If others come to kill Krsna's descendants, then what is the value of Krsna's descendants? Nobody could kill, because in Krsna's presence, whenever there was fight, all the descendants they came out... And who will conquer them? Nobody. That is not possible. But Krsna wanted that before His going away, all these demigods, they must also return. "Return" means this body must be killed. But who will kill them? That was the plan of Krsna. Therefore Krsna is... Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. He is planning. He made this plan.

So what is that? One of them made a false pregnancy with a stone on the belly wrapped with cloth, and another boy or another man, he went to a rsi that "Sir, can you tell what is child in the womb of this woman?" She is not woman, she is man. So the saintly person could understand that "These people have come to joke me." So he immediately cursed -- vipra -- that "Yes, what is there in the womb, that will be the cause of destroying your whole family." So when they were cursed, the came to their senses: "What you have done?" So actually, it was a stone. So they began to rub the stone so that there will be no existence of the stone. Rubbing, rubbing, rubbing, rubbing -- that pulp and water, that was distributed, and all of them became sticks. So then, after that, they became intoxicated, and they could not understand amongst themselves who is friend, who is enemy, and took those sticks and began to beat one another. In this way they died. This is the story. You know It is stated in the Krsna book.

So our point is to know this is a play only, background. Actually, Krsna wanted to take them away. And nobody could kill them. Therefore He planned a killing plan amongst themselves. This is the fact. But we should know that vipra-sapa-vimudhanam: if any person is cursed by vipra, brahmana, Vaisnava, then they are finished. Therefore according to the Vedic civilization, brahmanas and Vaisnavas are always honored so that they may not be dissatisfied. This is the rule. Brahmana and Vaisnava. The devotees and the brahmanas. Veda-pathad bhaved vipro brahma janatiti brahmanah. Those who are spiritually advanced, such persons should not be offended. Then you are finished in according to our philosophy, vaisnava-aparadha... Just we were talking in our walking that a great yogi... What is the name?

Devotee: Durvasa.

Prabhupada: Durvasa. Durvasa Muni offended Vaisnava, and immediately sudarsana-cakra came to kill Durvasa. Vaisnava-aparadha is never tolerated by Krsna. Just like the Pandavas, they were Vaisnavas, and the Duryodhana and company, they were so-called Vaisnava. Actually they were not Vaisnava. So they insulted. They put to trouble so many ways. They banished them in the jungle. They insulted their wife and so many ways by clique. So Krsna could not tolerate that. So therefore the Battle of Kuruksetra.

So Vaisnava is kind. Arjuna, he said, "My dear Krsna, whatever they have done, that doesn't matter. I cannot kill my family men. Please excuse." So just see. Arjuna is kind because he is Vaisnava. But Krsna cannot tolerate. Krsna said, "You must kill them. That is My order. You must kill them." Then he argued with Krsna in so many ways: "There will be so much sin. There will be this, there will be that." Then He preached Bhagavad-gita, and at last He said that "Arjuna, you are thinking that you shall, by not fighting, you shall be able to save your family men, kinsmen. That is not possible. That is not possible. They are already killed. It is all My plan. They will never return home. If you kill them, then you take the credit. But otherwise, they are already killed. And if you think that you will not kill them, they will be saved, that is not possible. That is not possible." Then Arjuna understood that "It is the determination of Krsna that they must be killed. Then why shall I disobey His order? It is my business to serve Him. Yes, then I shall kill, if You have so decided."

So this is the fact, that Krsna will never tolerate insult on a devotee. He will never tolerate. The devotee may excuse, trnad api sunicena taror api sahisnuna. He may suffer. Just like Prahlada Maharaja, he was suffering. His father was torturing him. He was suffering, "All right." But Krsna never tolerated. "Oh, you have done so much. Now it is the time to kill him." This is the process. Krsna will tolerate. Even you insult Krsna, He will tolerate. But if you insult His devotee, He will never tolerate. Then you are finished. Then you are finished. Just like a big man. If you insult him, he may think "All right, let him." But if you insult or do something harm to his child, he will never tolerate. He will never tolerate. Similarly, a devotee who is dependent on Krsna in everything, and if somebody does harm to him, insults him, Krsna will never tolerate. That is explained in the Caitanya-caritamrta, vaisnava-aparadha. Tara madhye vaisnava-aparadha hati matta. So we should be very careful not to offend Vaisnava devotees. Not to offend. This is greatest offense. Therefore it is said vipra-sapa-vimudhanam. Vimudhanam. Those who are rascal, fools, they will want to try to insult real brahmana, Vaisnava. Then they are finished. Of course, a Vaisnava never curses. Tolerates. Trnad api sunicena taror... Vaisnava tolerates, but Visnu never tolerates.

So vipra-sapa-vimudhanam nighnatam mustibhir mithah. Being intoxicated. Another point is intoxication. We are already intoxicated. Being under the influence of maya, the material energy, we are already forgotten of ourself. Everybody. Nobody knows that he's not this body. This is another intoxication. He is not this body, this is a fact, but go to the outside of this temple, ask anybody, "What you are?" "Yes, I am this body." They are already intoxicated. So again if you drink, then how much intoxicated you become, just try to understand. Varunim madiram pitva madonmathita-cetasam. Everyone who is in this material world, forgotten God or Krsna, he is already intoxicated. Just like intoxicated man, he cannot recognize even his father, mother, or even his sister or mother. It has been practical. One father intoxicated -- there are so many instances -- raped the daughter. Daughter is crying, "My dear father, I am, I am..." Who cares for that? Intoxicated. This is going on. So intoxication is so sinful. Intoxication is so sinful that... Just like the hog is intoxicated by this material world, eating stool. Is stool a food? But he is tasting very nice. And he's deriving benefit, sexually very strong, never cares whether mother, sister or daughter. Every example is there in front.

So by intoxication... We are already... We have to get out of this intoxicated condition of life, which is called maya. Instead of getting out of this intoxicated life, if we more increase our intoxication, big, big signboard, "Beefeaters" and this, "Whiskey," then how much we are degrading the whole population, we have to imagine. You see? People are already in forgetfulness. And the government, the society, they are still giving impetus: "You forget more, you forget more..." And he doesn't know. Visatam tamisram. Adanta-gobhir visatam tamisram. And they do not know that "I will have to take next birth, and according to my mentality, because I am infecting a certain type of material qualities, in that way I am creating my next body." That he does not know. This is due to intoxication. He is thinking that "My enjoyment life, in this way forever..." But he does not know that he is creating the mentality, and according to the mentality, hog's mentality, he will become next life a pig, and he will eat... He has to by force. Not by force; he will relish it. Maya... This is called avaranatmika-sakti, covering influence. The pig is eating stool, but he is very much satisfied: "Such a nice food." He is having intercourse with his daughter or sister or mother, he is enjoying.

So the hellish condition. So we create our hellish condition. Wherefrom the hog comes? The hog comes also... He is also living entity. By process of transmigration of the soul, one is accepting sometimes as a hog, sometimes a dog, sometimes a demigod, sometimes rich man, sometimes poor man, sometimes tree. That they do not know. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, ei rupe brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva [Cc. Madhya 19.151]. We are spoiling our time in this way, transmigrating from one type of body to another, and there are 8,400,000 types of body. So in the human form of life, if one is actually fortunate, then guru-krsna-krpaya paya bhakti-lata-bija [Cc. Madhya 19.151]. By the mercy of guru and by the mercy of Krsna one gets the opportunity of understanding Krsna consciousness. Otherwise they are entrapped by maya, intoxication, and wandering through out the whole universe in different types of body.

So this is called varunim madiram pitva madonmathita-cetasam, ajanatam. Ajanatam, without any knowledge. We are fighting one another without any knowledge. Why the Americans were fighting with Arabians and the Arabians are fighting? The fighting is going on. The United Nations means fighting settlement arena. That's all. But the fighting is going on. So unless we are self-realized, unless we know that "We are all sons of God; this outward dress is maya. I am not American, I am not Indian." Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, naham vipro na ca nara-patir na yatir va. He said like that, that... He is taking the varnasrama-dharma: brahmana ksatriya vaisya sudra brahmacari grhastha vanaprastha... So Caitanya Mahaprabhu denied all these: "No, I am a not brahmana, nor I am a sudra, nor am I grhastha, nor I am ksatriya." "Then what You are?" Gopi-bhartuh pada-kamalayor dasa-dasanudasah: "I am the servant of the servant of the servant of Krsna, who provides the gopis." This is our real identities.

So without understanding our real identification, if we remain intoxicated and wander within this wonderful universe... You cannot live. It is not that because you have settled up, "Now I am in America or India. Let me live here comfortably. I have got very good arrangement." But you will not be allowed to live, sir. You must have to change. You may make very good arrangement, but who is allowing to stay here. You will not be allowed to stay here. But they do not know. Intoxicated, because intoxicated. Everyone is thinking that "I shall stay forever. Let there be very big iron skyscraper building. I will be able to stay." But because intoxicated, he cannot understand that he will not be allowed to stay. You may simply spoil your energy. That's all. The energy which was given to you to understand God, you are spoiling that energy in skyscraper building, but you will not be allowed to stay. This is nature's law.

But the rascals, they do not know because they are intoxicated already by the nature's law, maya, and they are still being intoxicated, more drink liquor, more drink liquor, and go to hell.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.22-23 -- Los Angeles, December 2, 1973

Civilization Minus Krsna

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.21
Los Angeles, December 1, 1973


 

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Pradyumna: Translation: "I have the very same Gandiva bow, the same arrows, the same chariot drawn by the same horses, and I use them as the same Arjuna to whom all the kings offered their due respects. But in the absence of Lord Krsna, all of them, at a moment's notice, have become null and void. It is exactly like offering clarified butter on ashes, accumulating money with a magic wand or sowing seeds on barren land."

Prabhupada: Very important verse, hm? Tad abhud asad isa-riktam. Everything will be null and void when there is no God. That's all. The modern civilization has got everything, but without God consciousness, any moment it will be finished. And there are symptoms... Any moment. At the present moment, this godless civilization, as soon as there is declaration of war, the America is prepared to drop atom bomb, Russia is... The first nation who will drop the atom bomb, he will be victorious. Nobody will be victorious, because both of them are ready to drop. The America will be finished and Russia will be finished. That is the position. So you may make advancement of civilization, scientific improvement, economic development, but if it is godless, at any moment it will be finished. At any moment.

Just like Ravana. Ravana, Hiranyakasipu, they were demons, godless demons. Ravana was very learned scholar in Vedic knowledge and very powerful materially. He converted his capital with gold, all the buildings and everything. It is supposed that Ravana's brother was a king of..., on the other side of the globe. So it is my suggestion... I do not say it is very scientific proof. So other side of the globe... Ravana was in Ceylon, and the other side of the globe, if you go by subway, it comes to Brazil. And Brazil is supposed to have gold mines. And it is said in the Ramayana that Ravana's brother was living on the other side of the globe, and Ramacandra was taken through the subway. So taking this into consideration, we can suppose that Ravana imported large quantity of gold from Brazil, and he converted them into big, big houses. So Ravana was so powerful that he made his capital Svarna-lanka, "capital made of gold." Just like if a man comes from undeveloped country to your country, New York or any city, when they see the big, big skyscraper, they become astonished. Although skyscraper buildings are everywhere nowadays, formerly it was very wonderful.

So we can create everything very wonderful, but we can take the example of Ravana. Ravana was very advanced materially, and he had Vedic knowledge sufficiently. He was son of a brahmana. Everything was there. But the only fault was that he did not care for Rama. That is the only fault. "Oh, what is Rama? I don't care for Him. There is no need of performing yajnas and ritualistic ceremony to be promoted to the heavenly kingdom." Ravana said, "I shall construct a staircase to go to the moon planet. Why you are trying in this way or that way? I will do that." Svargesari.(?) So these people are trying like Ravana, but they should take lesson from Ravana that his godlessness made him doomed. Everything he lost.

So this instruction by Arjuna... He said that so 'ham dhanus ta isavah. He was defeated by the cowherdsmen. He could not protect the queens of Krsna, and they were taken away by these cowherdsmen. So he is lamenting that "I have got this bow and arrow with which I fought in the Battlefield of Kuruksetra, and I became victorious because Krsna was sitting on my chariot. That is the only reason. Now I have got these bows and arrows, the same bows and arrows with which I fought in the Battle of Kuruksetra, but at the present moment there is no Krsna. Therefore it is useless." Isa-rikta, asad abhut. Asat means which does not act; it does not exist. "So my bows and arrows are the same, but it is now useless."

So we should take this lesson that without God, without spirit, this material, I mean to say, gorgeousness has no value. Just like we were talking with the scientist in our walking. I was giving this example. Now, there was big, big scientist, just like Professor Einstein was a well-known scientist, but when that small spark of soul was gone from the body, the scientist was lying down, but useless. Nothing coming. Nothing coming. Now, the scientist himself also could not discover any implement or medicine or something like that and teach his disciples, "My dear disciples, when I will be on the death point, please give, inject this medicine in my body and then again I shall come out a scientist." No. That is not... He could not discover that. At least, as a big scientist, it was expected that "Do something wonderful." They might have discovered so many wonderful. The real problem -- birth, death, old age and disease -- there is no discovery. That I was talking, that discover something by which there will be no disease. You are discovering very nice medicine. The drug shop is full with various types of up-to-date medicine, but none of the medicine is sufficient to make a man not to die. That is not possible. Or not to become diseased. That is not possible.

So this advancement of civilization, material civilization, without God, is like that. That is stated in the Vedic literature, that,

bhagavad-bhakti-hinasya
jatih sastram japas tapah
apranasyeva dehasya
mandanam loka-ranjanam

Jati, big nation, big achievement, japas tapah kriya, big activities... Just like you American people, you are big nation. Your activities are very big, considered in other parts of the world. And your tapasya is there. You have earned this, you have made this America so nice by tapasya, by austerity. It has not come out automatically. You have labored hard. That is called tapasya. So this big nationality, jati, japas, tapah, these hard work, scientific discoveries, they are very nice, but what kind of popularity it is? Bhagavad-bhakti-hinasya jatih sastram japas tapah. All these are simply decoration of the dead body. I do not know whether in your country it is a fashion. In India there is a custom that low-class men... Just like cobbler. Cobbler is taken as the low..., those who prepare, expert in skin. So they are generally very poor man. Now they have advanced, because now the Kali-yuga is the age of the sudras. So they decorate the dead body. If a cobbler's father dies, he brings, he spends money. He brings nice covering cloth, and with flower and everything... So sastra says that,

bhagavad-bhakti-hinasya
jatih sastram japas tapah
apranasyeva dehasya
mandanam loka-ranjanam

If you decorate a dead body, it may be very fanciful to the people, that "This dead body is decorated with costly garments and flowers and all things." So, but the dead body is dead. It is not enjoying. You can be complacent that "My father, the body of my father or my relative, is decorated so nicely." But factually, if you study scrutinizingly, what is the benefit out of this? What is the benefit? Dead body decoration? But people do that. They are accustomed to do that.

So similarly, this body is dead. That's a fact. It is dead from the very beginning. Because it is matter. Matter is always dead. So this body made of matter, bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh -- earth, water, fire, air. This external body is dead, but it is living on account of that small spark of spirit. That is the real meant. That we understand from Bhagavad..., dehino 'smin yatha dehe [Bg. 2.13]. Dehinah, the small spark, spiritual spark, he is within this body. This is the first understanding of spiritual knowledge. You must know. This is the beginning of Bhagavad-gita. When Bhagavad-gita was taught to Arjuna, Arjuna was lamenting for this body. So Krsna, when He was accepted Arjuna's spiritual master, sisyas te 'ham sadhi mam prapannam, then He advised him that "You are talking like a very learned scholar." Asocyan anvasocas tvam prajna-vadams ca bhasase [Bg. 2.11]. "You are talking just like you know..." Just like our so-called scientists, they speak as if they know everything, but real thing they do not know. That is zero. What is spirit, they do not know. They are thinking this body. And according to Vedic knowledge, if one is misguided on the bodily identification of ourself, he is animal. He is animal. He may be Ph.D., D.H.C. or something, but he is animal. Sa eva go-kharah [SB 10.84.13]. Because he does not know how the body is moving. And neither they can discover anything. When the body is dead... It is dead from the very beginning, but it was moving. Just like so long petrol is there, the motorcar moves. But as soon as there is... Now there is crisis. So how their motorcars will move? They are concerned. So why their crisis? Because the petrol is the life of the movement of the motorcar. Similarly, that spiritual spark, or spirit soul, is the petrol of this body.

So without knowledge of this, sa eva go-kharah [SB 10.84.13], just like cats and dogs, they cannot understand how he is moving. That he does not know. If a human being also does not understand that how this body is moving, neither they can discover what it is, then what is this? It may be very so-called decoration of the body. A decoration of the dead body, what is the profit thereof? If you do not know what is the real living force within this body, then if you simply decorate the body, dead body, loka-ranjanam, you may get some applause from ordinary men, but it has no value. It has no value.

So you can expand in so many ways. Isa-rikta. Isa-rikta means without God, without God, isa-rikta. So we living entities, we are also part and parcel of God, and because we living entity, part and parcel of God, is within this body, therefore the body is so beautiful, so big scientist, so philosophers or politician and... You can say anything. But without that soul, this body is useless, dead body, and you can give all titles, Ph.D, D.H.C., they are all useless. Suppose a man is dead and from Oxford University somebody comes, "Now I give you Ph.D. title," what is the use? Suppose a beautiful woman attracted so many people. Now, when she is dead, if she is offered, "Now you can take this body. You can use it as you...," nobody will like. Why? The same beautiful lying on the... Why don't you take it now? You were after her so many... "No. It is no, (laughing) no more useful. No more useful." Everyone knows it.

There is a story that one beautiful woman was hunted by another man. So he was wooing, canvassing, but she was chaste lady. But... She did not agree. But that man was after her. So one day she said, "All right, you come to me three days after. I will accept you." So on the third day he (she) took purgative, a very strong purgative, and passed stools whole day and night, and he (she) kept those all those stools, stools and vomit and everything, kept in a very good preserver. Then third day, when the man came, she was sitting, and he was asking, "Where is that woman?" "No, I am the same woman. You don't recognize me?" "No, no, you are... She... She was so beautiful, and you, you are ugly." (laughter) "No, no, I am the same. You do not know." "Then how you look so ugly?" "Because I have separated my beauty." "You have separated your beauty?" "Yes, I will show you. Come here. Come here. The stool and the vomit are all stocked for you to show you." But actually, it is very knowledge, very good knowledge. Sankaracarya says, etam raktam mamsa-vikaram. (?) He is teaching renouncement, that "Why you are attracted with this beautiful? What is this beauty? It is a combination of stool, urine and flesh and bone. That's all." So he saw, "Here is my beauty. Now you add it with me. Then again I shall be beautiful."

So these are actually knowledge. People are after something false. That is called maya. Maya means which is not actually fact, but we are after that. Similarly, this so-called advancement of civilization is maya. It will be finished at any second, but they do not know. They do not know. It will be finished at any second. Even though we accept it, all right, Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, mrtyuh sarva-haras caham: "I am the death, and I take away everything at the time of death." Either you take as a philosopher, scientist or rich man, capitalist, as soon as there is death... Just like you see, Hiranyakasipu, he was very powerful, and as soon as Nrsimhadeva appeared, everything finished. Now he is dying. You see? So people do not understand it, that without Krsna, without God, without Krsna consciousness, simply we are wasting our time, that's all, after false things. Everything will be useless. Today or tomorrow or day after. It will be useless, all useless. Real spirit soul -- na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20] -- that we do not take care. After finishing this false body, which will exist, the spirit soul, na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20], which is never vanquished even after the annihilation of this body, we are not taking care of that, wherefrom it has come. People are ignorant, so foolish. They do not know. This is the ignorant, civilization of ignorance. Na mam duskrtino mudhah [Bg. 7.15]. They do not know therefore. In ignorance they are committing so many sinful life. For the satisfaction of the tongue, they are killing so many animals. Why? There are so many nice foodstuffs. Why you are committing these sinful activities? They do not know what is sinful activities or pious activities. They do not know.

That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, na vidur asura janah, pravrttim ca nivrttim ca jana na vidur asurah. Pravrtti means we have got some inclination to accept something and we have disinclination to reject something. Everyone knows it. But the asuric jana, those who are asuras, demons, they do not know in which way we shall accept and in which way we shall reject. That they do not know. That is called asura-jana. Just like we are advising our students, "Reject this: no illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling, no meat-eating. Reject. And accept; chant Hare Krsna." The demons, they do not know. They do not know it. They do not know why they are rejecting this and why they are accepting this, jana na vidur asurah. Because they are asuras. If we accept this path, then we are going to be liberated. What is that liberation? Liberation means to get out of this material bondage of body, dehino 'smin. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti [Bg. 4.9]. This knowledge is wanting. There are so many universities, educational institution, big, big professors, scientists, all rascals. All rascals, we declare. Let them come and argue with us. All rascals. So therefore it is said, harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-gunah.

Here is practical example, Arjuna is giving, that "I have got the same arrow, I have got the same bow. I have got the same chariot, my same horses, but everything is... I am the same Arjuna who was being honored by so many kings, ‘Oh, Arjuna is such a great warrior!' Now nobody cares for me." This is example. Here is said, so 'ham rathi nrpatayo yata anamanti: "I am the same Arjuna, great fighter. People were offering their obeisances to me, ‘O Arjuna, you are great friend of Krsna. You are great warrior.' Now nobody cares." How it has vanquished? The example is here, "Just like to pour butter in the ashes." This example is... Because in sacrifice the butter is poured into the fire. If it is poured into the fire, then the butter increases the strength of the fire. But if it is put into the ashes, where there is no fire, it is useless waste. And similarly, if you sow the seed in the Arabian desert to get some nice rose flower... The seed is all right, rose seed, but you have to sow it in the proper place, not in the Arabian desert.

Therefore your knowledge, university advancement of civilization, will be perfect when it is properly carried with God consciousness. Otherwise it is all useless. It is all useless, no use. You try to understand it and spread this knowledge. That is Krsna consciousness movement. Don't be misled by the so-called leaders.

na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum
durasaya ye bahir-artha-maninah
andha yathandhair upaniyamanas
te 'pisa-tantryam uru-damni baddhah
 [SB 7.5.31]

The modern civilization, they are so rascals, they are expecting something utopian, that by material advancement of civilization they will be happy. Now, one gentleman, that doctor, what is his name, Ifrenzia,(?) yes, he said that in Sweden they are the richest men, but the largest number of suicide cases are there. So this kind of material richness will not help you. That will not help. Actually, practically, we are experiencing. Why their every nation is dissatisfied? Although they have materially advanced so much, but dissatis... In your country also, why this section of people have become hippies? From university student, they have become hippies. Why? Frustration. They know that "What is this life? If I am become educated, then what is my future?" There is no future. Frustrated.

So this kind of civilization will not help. Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad... So therefore they do not know what is the actual aim of life. Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum [SB 7.5.31]. These rascals, they do not know what should be the aim of life. The aim of life is God realization, God realization, that "There is God, His name is Krsna, His address is Vaikuntha, His number is this, He has got so many friends, He has got so many lovers." Everything we are giving. But still, the rascal will not take. We are giving the name, address, activities, everything. "You come, go there." But no, they will not do that. This is called misfortune. He is coming Himself, canvassing, sarva-dharman parityajya mam [Bg. 18.66], but still they are researching God. God is canvassing, and they are researching God. Somebody's failure, "There is no God." Somebody says, "God is dead. He is finished. Now we are God." These things are going on.

So why? Because na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum durasaya [SB 7.5.31]. Their real fault is that they are trying to become happy in this material existence. That is their fault. In Delhi, when I presented in some library my book Easy Journey to Other Planets, so one gentleman met, "You have got, written some book, Easy Journey to Other Planets?" "Yes." "Then we shall go and come back?" "No, why you shall come back?" "No, no, then I don't want." (laughter) The rascal wants to go to other planet and come back. They are doing actually. They are going to the so-called moon planet and coming back. The first aeronautics from Russia, when he was far, far away, he was just looking after, "Where is my Moscow? Where is my Moscow?" You see. This is our intelligence. You may go far away. There is an example. Just like the vulture, they have got a very good eyesight, very good eyesight. You... Seven miles away from the surface, they can see where there is a dead corpse. So they have got good eyesight, but they are searching after dead corpse only. That is their business. These so-called scientists, philosophers, they are very much advanced, but their only business is how to become happy in this planet. That's all. That is their... Not mahatma. Duratma. Their mind is not very broad. What is called? Ah? What is the English word? Crippled. Mind is very crippled. Durasaya. Therefore they are hoping against hope. They will not live here. Still, they are decorating, decorating the dead body. "This is my apartment, this is my house, this is my country, this is my skyscraper building." Painting. And one day, mrtyuh sarva... Just like Hiranyakasipu. He's challenging, challenging, "Where is your God?" "Ah, here is God! Come on! Finished. Finished. Here is God."

So God will appear. Don't forget that you will be godless. You will see God, and death, at that time, after seeing, you will be finished, no more understanding. That is... Krsna says, mrtyuh sarva-harah... When you will be taken away, everything, all your possession, all your scientific knowledge, bank balance, skyscraper, everything will be taken away, then you will understand what is God, like Hiranyakasipu. So why don't you try to understand before that moment comes? Live so very nicely, chant Hare Krsna and see Radha-Krsna Deity, and eat nicely, live nicely. "No, that is not possible. We shall see at the time of death when everything will be finished. All intelligence, all good food, everything will be finished." So therefore in the Caitanya-caritamrta it is said, krsna yei bhaje se bada catura. Unless one is first-class intelligent, he cannot take to Krsna consciousness. The last class fools and rogues, they cannot take to Krsna consciousness.

So by the grace of Krsna, you have first-class intelligence, those who have taken to Krsna consciousness. Now try to continue it. Don't give it up. Don't be foolish, mudha. Continue. Then you will be happy, and all problems of life will be solved.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.21 -- Los Angeles, December 1, 1973

Again Become A Mouse

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.20
Los Angeles, November 30, 1973

Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada


Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)

so 'ham nrpendra rahitah purusottamena
sakhya priyena suhrda hrdayena sunyah
adhvany urukrama-parigraham anga raksan
gopair asadbhir abaleva vinirjito 'smi

Translation: "O Emperor, now I am separated from my friend and dearmost well-wisher, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and therefore my heart appears to be void of everything. In His absence I have been defeated by a number of infidel cowherd men while I was guarding the bodies of all the wives of Krsna."

Prabhupada: So after departure of Krsna, Krsna's all the wives, 16,108, they were being taken care of by Arjuna. But some cowherdsmen, they plundered all the queens, and Arjuna could not protect them.

So this is the instance, that we may be very powerful so long Krsna keeps us powerful. We are not independently powerful, even in the case of Arjuna. We are very much proud of our janmaisvarya-sruta-srih. The material world, everyone is very much proud of his birth, riches, education and beauty. Beauty. These four things are obtained as result of pious activities. And as a result of impious activities, the opposite number. Not birth in a very nice family or nation, no wealth, poverty, no education and no beauty. But one should know that these assets, material assets... Just like you American people. You have got nice assets. You are born of a very respectful nation -- American nations are still honored all over the world. So that's a good opportunity for you, janma. You are born in... Every American is... In comparison to India, every American is rich man, because any ordinary man earns here at least four thousand, five thousand rupees. And in India, even the high court judge, he cannot earn so. Utmost four thousand. So you should be conscious that by the grace of Krsna, you have got all these things. There is no poverty, there is no scarcity, there is good chance of education, and you are wealthy, beautiful, everything. Janmaisvarya-sruta-srih. But if you do not become Krsna conscious, if you misuse these assets, then again punar musiko bhava.

You know the story, punar musiko bhava? Anyone knows? Punar musiko bhava means "Again you become a mouse." (laughter) A mouse came to a saintly person: "Sir, I am very much troubled." "What is that?" People generally go to saintly persons for some material profit. That is the nature, animalistic nature. Why you should go to a saintly person for some material benefit? No. You go there to learn what is God. That is real business. Anyway, saintly persons sometimes receive. "So what do you want?" Just like Lord Siva, his devotees are all like that mouse, want something. "Sir, this cat troubles me very much." "So what you want?" "Let me become a cat." "All right, you become a cat." So he became a cat. Then after few days, he came back. "Sir, still I am in trouble." "What is that?" "The dogs, (laughter) they trouble us very much." "So what you want?" "Now I want to become a dog." "All right, you become." Then after few days... One after..., there is nature's arrangement. One is weak, one is strong. That is nature's arrangement. So after all, he wanted to become a tiger. So by the grace of the saintly person, he became a tiger. And when he became a tiger, he was staring on the saintly person like, oh. (Prabhupada makes a face -- devotees laugh) So the saintly person asked him, "You want to eat me?" "Yes." "Oh, then you may again become a mouse. (laughter) If by my grace, by my favor, you have become tiger, so I will again condemn you to become a mouse."

So you American people, you have become tiger now, Nixon tiger. But if you don't behave obligely, if you don't feel obliged, if the tiger feels obliged that "By the grace of the saintly person, I have come to the stage of becoming a tiger, I must be very much obliged to him..." But instead of becoming obliged, if you want to eat, then again become a mouse. If the saintly person has got the power to make you from mouse to tiger, then he can convert you again from tiger to mouse. You must always remember this. So by the grace of God, Krsna, you have become so powerful nation, rich, beautiful, educated. By grace of Krsna you have become, but if you forget Krsna, then you are again going to be mouse. Remember that. Nobody will care for you. Just like Englishmen. Englishmen, they established the British Empire, great, powerful, most powerful nation in the world. Now they are not so. Because they misused their power. So you get power, opulence, by the grace of Lord, Krsna. And if you misuse it, then you become again... That is happening. That is the nature's law. Nature's law.

So here, Arjuna, by his personal behavior, he is showing that "Without Krsna... I was so great fighter that I took charge of the sixteen thousand wives of Krsna to take them safely. Because Krsna passed away, so they must be given protection." He was Krsna's friend, but he could not do so. All the queens were plundered by cowherdsmen. Therefore he says that gopair asadbhih. Cowherdsmen, they are not very powerful. They are ordinary men, cowherdsmen. But Arjuna was ksatriya, so powerful. So he was defeated by them. Therefore he is regretting that asadbhih: "If I would have been defeated by another powerful person, that would have been glory, but I have been defeated by the cowherdsmen." Just see. Asadbhih. They are not counted amongst gentlemen. Asadbhir abaleva.

Abaleva. Abala, another name of the woman. Just like if somebody attacks woman... Any young man, when he has got sixteen years old, he can attack any woman. But a woman, even though she is sixteen years or eighteen years or twenty years, she becomes immediately victim. So abaleva. Even the woman is higher in age, still, she cannot protect. Therefore woman requires protection. Woman requires protection. According to Vedic culture, woman has no independence, because they cannot keep their independence. It is not possible. A sixteen-year-old boy can go safely all over the world, but a sixteen-year girl cannot. That is not possible. By nature, they are weak. So they require protection. And until she reaches youthhood, she is protected by the father. As soon as she reaches youthhood, she is given to a young man, her husband, to give protection. And in old age, she is protected by the elderly sons. This is the Vedic culture. They have three phases of life: childhood, youthhood, and old age. So... Because they are weak. In the Western countries, the women are given freedom like man, but that is unnatural. Unnatural. Therefore these poor souls are being exploited by the other section. It is a great deficiency of the Western sociology.

But the Vedic culture is different from this. Woman is not given independence. And generally one man marries more than one wife. That is Vedic culture. Just like see Krsna. Krsna has 16,108. That is allowed. Krsna was Personality of Godhead. He could maintain... Why sixteen? Sixteen millions wife. That is not difficult for Him. But even ordinary man, ksatriyas especially, they used to marry more than one wife. Still. Not only wife, but one wife, one princess is married, and along with her, hundred, two hundred maidservants, they will go with the king. Just like when Vasudeva was married to Devaki, some hundreds of maidservant was given with. So women... The conclusion is that women are weak. They should be given protection. They should not be ill-treated. Just like a father gives protection to the children. It does not mean it is ill-treatment. There is no question of. But protection. Otherwise, abaleva, they can be victimized by any man, powerful, because man is powerful.

So so 'ham nrpendra rahitah purusottamena. We also require. Don't be proud, "Because I am man, I don't require protection." Here it is said, Krsna said, er Arjuna said, purusottamena so 'ham rahitah: "Now I have no protection." Arjuna was so great hero. Still, he required protection. Purusottamena. Purusa, purusa means enjoyer. The supreme enjoyer is Krsna. If He does not give protection, you cannot enjoy your life. That is not possible. Therefore Krsna says... Krsna is giving protection, but not as much as He wants to give you protection, because you deny to accept it. Because you deny to accept His protection, therefore He is giving protection to you as much as you want. And if you want full protection, then the condition is sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja: [Bg. 18.66] "Give up your own manufactured, concocted means of protection. You just surrender unto Me, and I will give you protection." Protection for what? "Protection from sinful activities." We are victimized by our sinful activities due to ignorance. We do not know what to do, what not to do. Out of ignorance we do something, and we become victimized by the laws of nature. But if you surrender to Krsna, He will give you protection. You will never be victimized. You will never be victimized. Because Krsna says,

tesam satata-yuktanam
bhajatam priti-purvakam
dadami buddhi-yogam tam
yena mam upayanti te
 [Bg. 10.10]

Krsna will guide you. Krsna is within yourself, and He can speak to you. You can hear Him also, provided you are fully surrendered.

So it does not mean that Arjuna was not fully surrendered. Arjuna was fully surrendered, and Arjuna was fully protected by Krsna. Neither these queens, sixteen thousand queens could be plundered away by some cowherdsmen. But the... It is an instance, that even a person like Arjuna, he will be helpless without Krsna. He will be helpless, what to speak of ourselves? He will be helpless. That is his... He is showing that example. Krsna was... So so 'ham nrpendra rahitah purusottamena: "Now I am bereft of the association of my dearest friend, Krsna." Sakhya, sakha means friend. Sakhya priyena. Not only friend, very dear friend, priyena. Suhrda. Suhrda means... Suhrt. There are different kinds of friends. But suhrt is a friend who always thinks of his friend, how he will be happy. That is called suhrt. That is... This description is given about the devotees also. Suhrdam sarva-bhutanam. A devotee is always thinking how whole world will be happy. Suhrdam sarva... Not only human being, but animals, birds, trees, beasts, everyone. A devotee does not like to see even a grass is unreasonably cut. That is devotee vision. That is the...

Therefore Vaisnava... What is that? Vaisnavanam? Vaisnava is happy. Just like, take Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja said... Prahlada Maharaja was praying Lord Nrsimhadeva to pacify Him. So the commentator says that Prahlada Maharaja might have been very much afraid of this ferocious feature of the Lord, Nrsimhadeva. So he assured Nrsimhadeva, "My dear Lord, don't think that I am afraid of Your this feature. No, no." Naivodvije. "Neither I am afraid of this materialistic existence." Naivodvije para duratyaya-vaitaranyas tvad-virya-gayana-mahamrta-magna-cittah. "I am quite confident that I have no fear." And he has practically seen that his father teased him in so many ways, but at last he was protected. So why he should not believe? He knows that "I am (have) dedicated my life to Krsna, and Krsna is not so ungrateful that He will not give me protection. How it is possible?" But one who does not believe in Krsna, he thinks that he will protect himself. Apasyatam atma-tattvam grhesu grha-medhinam [SB 2.1.2]. Those who are not God-realized, they think that they will be protected by their society, friendship, love, country, nation, like that. But that is not possible. Just like you are flying in the sky, so many aeroplanes at a time. Sometimes in a bunch, a group they fly. But if one of the aeroplane is in danger, no other aeroplane can help him. He'll finish. So similarly, we are also flying as aeroplane in the open sky. The protection... You don't expect protection from your so-called society, friendship and love, materially. When there is question of danger, you have to protect with your own strength.

Therefore if we want actually protection, we should take protection of the Supreme, Krsna, or His devotee. Krsna is suhrdam sarva-bhutanam. Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram, suhrdam sarva-bhutanam: [Bg. 5.29] "I am the friend of everyone." He can become friend. He is living within our heart as friend. But we refuse the guidance of such a nice friend. That is our misfortune. Krsna is so kind, so friendly, that you are... Just like one bird is flying from one tree to another, and another bird is following him. So similarly we are flying from one body to another. Tatha dehantara-praptih. But Krsna does not leave us. He's also going with you just to give you guidance. But we won't give Him. Just like father... It is very natural. Father naturally wants to guide the son without any motive. That is father's nature. Similarly, Krsna, or God, the supreme father, is naturally inclined to give us protection, naturally. Therefore He comes, Krsna comes. Yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati [Bg. 4.7]. Paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca duskrtam [Bg. 4.8]. Krsna's two business. First of all, preaching, these rascals who have forgotten Krsna, that "We are very intimately related. I am the father of all living entities. So you come to Me, come to home. You will be happy. I am not poor. I can provide you with all necessities." Eko yo bahunam vidadhati kaman. That one can provide everyone with necessities of life, actually He is doing. What government is doing for the cats and dogs and the ants and the trees? They are not doing anything. Rather, they are cutting. When there is jungle, for their paper mill, they are cutting all the trees. No protection for the trees. They are all cutting all the throats of the cows and animals for eating. So the government cannot give protection. Nobody can give protection. Only Krsna can give you protection. Therefore we should always seek the protection of Krsna. That is our security, not any other thing.

So suhrt means... Krsna is suhrt, suhrt means who always, I mean to say, trying for our welfare. He comes Himself. And even though we do not accept... Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. Man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. He gives plain advice that "You always think of Me, become My devotee, offer your respectful obeisances unto Me. That will make your life perfect." But we shall not do that. We shall not do that. We shall think of so many other things, but we will never accept thinking of Krsna. We shall become devotees of so many rascals, even of a dog also, but we shall never become devotee of Krsna. This is the position. We are devotee or master to our wife, to our children, to our country, to our society, but as soon as you say that "You become devotee of Krsna," oh, he is enraged immediately: "What nonsense you are speaking? I have got so many work to do. Why shall I become devotee of Krsna?" This is the disease. This is the disease. Therefore Krsna ultimately says that "You give up all this nonsense, and if you surrender unto Me, then I shall give you protection."

Naturally... Just like we are preaching Krsna consciousness. We are not devotee to the people in general. Then why we are preaching? We are devotee. We are actually devotee, without any motive. Any so-called political leader, he has got some motive. When he becomes devotee of the nation, he has got some motive. But we have no such motive. We simply say plainly that "You become happy by becoming devotee of Krsna. You are now devotee of your lust, anger, and illusion. You have become devotee of so many things, rascaldom. You simply become devotee of Krsna. Then your problems will be solved." Kamadinam kati na katidha palita durnidesah. We are devotee, somebody. But we are not devotee of somebody. We are... We have got some motive. Just like now it is coming to exposure. So many leaders, they got election, pretending themselves devotee of the nation. In everywhere, not only in your country. But actually, they were not devotee of the nation. They were devotee of their own lusty desires. That's all. That "If I occupy this post, then I shall be able to fulfill my lusty desires." Nobody is devotee. Devotion is only applicable to Krsna. If somebody is proclaiming himself that "I am devotee, servant of my nation, of my society, of my wife, of my children" -- all false. Here nobody is devotee. Everyone has got some motive. Even the intimate relationship between husband and wife, there is some motive. The husband has got some motive and the wife has got... As soon as the motive is not fulfilled, divorce: "Ah, no more now. Take another chapter."

So this is going on. You see? This is going on, and therefore in the name of devotion, in the name of love, in the name of faith, they are trying to satisfy their own senses. This is called illusion. And he will never be happy so long he will try to satisfy his senses. And that is the truth. They will never be happy. Because... I have given this example. The parts and parcel of your body. If separately the part and parcel of the body wants to satisfy itself, it will never be satisfied. The only means of satisfaction is that the part and parcel conjointly work and satisfy the stomach, and then it will be satisfied. Similarly, we are part and parcel of Krsna. If we want to satisfy ourself, our senses, independently, we shall never be satisfied. This is the fact. You have to satisfy Krsna. Then you will be satisfied. This is the process. Hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam bhaktir ucyate [Cc. Madhya 19.170].

Because actually the owner is Krsna. I am claiming, "This is my hand." It is not my hand. It is Krsna's hand. He has given us to use it. So if I don't use it for Krsna, then it will be criminal. It will be criminal. Yajnarthe karmano 'nyatra loko 'yam karma-bandhanah [Bg. 3.9]. Simply for Krsna you have to work. And if you work for your sense gratification, then you will be entangled. This is called karma-bandhana. You will be entangled more and more. Yavan mano vai karmane saktam tavat na muncante deha-bandhat(?). So long we will be, I mean to say, sense-gratifying minded... Because everyone's mind is absorbed in the thought of gratifying his own senses. So so long we shall be absorbed in this type of thoughts, then we have to accept a body, either human body or other body. There are 8,400,000 different types of forms and body. So we have got different types of desires also, because we are prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah [Bg. 3.27]. We are under the modes of material nature, and the material nature has got the modes, different modes: goodness, passion and ignorance. You mix up these three; three into three, it becomes nine. Nine into nine, it becomes eighty-one. Eighty-one into eight..., it increases. It increases. Therefore we see so many varieties of life, according to the mentality.

So if we work on our, according to the dictation of the mind, then we become entangled. And if we work under the dictation of Krsna, then we become free. This is the process of Krsna consciousness.

Thank you very much. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.20 -- Los Angeles, November 30, 1973

Very Intimately Connected

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.1
New York, November 29, 1973

Srila A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada


Pradyumna: "Translation. Suta Gosvami said: Arjuna, the celebrated friend of Lord Krsna, was grief stricken because of his strong feeling of separation from Krsna, over and above all Maharaja Yudhisthira's speculative inquiries."

Prabhupada: So evam krsna sakhah krsno. Arjuna's name is Krsna Sakha, and he is also called sometimes Krsna, because Arjuna's bodily feature was almost similar to Krsna's bodily feature. So, he was morose, being separated from Krsna, and his elder brother was suggesting whether he was morose for this reason or that reason or this reason. Actually, he was unhappy on account of being separated from Krsna. Similarly, not only Arjuna, all of us, we are also, as Krsna, Arjuna, he is also a living entity, we are also living entity. So we are also unhappy, because we are separated from Krsna. These modern philosophers or scientists, they may suggest that they may go on thinking otherwise that they can improve the world situation in their own way, but that is not possible. We are unhappy on account of being separated from Krsna. They do not know that. Just like a child, a child is crying, nobody can say why he is crying, but actually a child is generally in crying condition being separated from the mother.

So the, not only it is the question of Arjuna or Krsna, everyone of us. In the Upanisad it is said that Paramatma, Krsna, and the living entity they are sitting on the same tree, samani vrkse. One living entity is eating the fruit of the tree, and the other living entity is simply witnessing, anumanta. So Krsna, He's situated in everyone's heart, isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. Because without His sanction, the living entity cannot do anything. Sarvasya caham hrdi sannivisto [Bg. 15.15], Krsna says that "I am seated in everyone's heart." So, the living entity wants to do something out of his own whims, Krsna says, or Krsna gives good consultation that "This will not make you happy, don't do this." But he is persistent, he will do it. Then Krsna sanctions, Paramatma, "All right, you do it, at your risk." This is going on. Everyone of us (is) very intimately connected with Krsna, and Krsna is sitting in everyone's heart. Krsna is so kind, that He is simply waiting, "When this rascal will turn his face towards Me." He simply is, he is so kind. But we living entities, we are so rascal, we shall turn our face to everything except Krsna. This is our position.

We want to be happy, with so many ideas. Everyone is making his own idea, "Now this is the..." But the rascals, they do not know that, what is the actual process for getting happiness, that is Krsna. That they do not know. na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum durasaya ye bahir-artha-maninah [SB 7.5.31]. You, you can see in your country, they are trying so many things, so many skyscraper buildings, so many motor cars, so many big, big cities, but there is no happiness. Because they do not know what is missing. That missing point we are giving. Here is, "You take Krsna and you will be happy." This is our Krsna consciousness. Krsna and the living entity, they are very intimately connected. Like father and son, or friend and friend, or master and servant, like that. We are very much intimately connected. But because we have forgotten our intimate relationship with Krsna, and trying to become happy in this material world, therefore we have to undergo so much tribulations. This is the position. Krsna bhuliya jiva bhoga vancha kare.

We living entities, we are trying to become happy within this material world, "Why you are in the material world, why not in the spiritual world?" The spiritual world, nobody can become the enjoyer, bhokta. That is only Supreme, bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva... [Bg. 5.29]. There is no mistake. There are also living entities, but they know perfectly well that real enjoyer, proprietor, is Krsna. That is spiritual kingdom. Similarly, even in this material world, if we understand perfectly well that we are not enjoyer, Krsna is enjoyer, then that is spiritual world. This Krsna consciousness movement is trying to convince everyone that we, we are not enjoyer, enjoyer is Krsna. Just like, this whole body, the enjoyer is the stomach, and the hands and legs and eyes and ears and brains and everything, these should be engaged to find out the enjoyable things and put it in the stomach. This is natural. Similarly, we are part and parcel of God, or Krsna, we are not enjoyer.

In every religion, it is accepted. Just like in Christian religion also it is said: "Oh God, give us our daily bread." Bread, we cannot manufacture. It must come from God. That is Vedic version also nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman. God, or Krsna, He gives everything, necessities of life, as you like, but if you accept your enjoyable things as you like, then you'll become entangled. But if you accept things to be enjoyed by you, tena tyaktena bhunjitha, as Krsna offers you, then you'll become happy. If you make, just like a diseased patient, if he wants to enjoy life in his own whimsical way, he'll continue his disease. But if he accepts the modes of life according to the directions of the physician, then he becomes free from So there are two methods, pravrtti and nivrtti. Pravrtti means "I have got inclination to eat this or to enjoy this. Why not? I shall do it. I have got my freedom." "But you have no freedom sir, you are simply..." That is maya. You have no freedom. We get experience, suppose there is very nice palatable food. If I think, let me eat as much as possible, then next day I'll have to starve. Immediately dysentery or indigestion.

So you cannot violate the laws of Krsna, or laws of nature, that is not possible. You are not at all independent. Because these rascals, they'll not understand this. They are always thinking, we are independent. That is the cause of all unhappiness. Nobody is independent. How you can be independent? Nobody is independent, neither you can be independent, neither nobody is independent. That factual, who is independent? Here you are sitting, so many boys and girls, who can say "I am independent of everything"? No, nobody can say. So this is our mistake, and by misusing our independence we are suffering in this material world in so many ways. That has to be reformed. That has to be checked. That is Krsna consciousness movement. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has preached, jivera svarupa haya nitya krsna dasa [Cc. Madhya 20.108-109]. We living entities, we are eternally servant of Krsna. That is our position. But if we deny this position, "Now why shall I become servant of Krsna? I am independent," then suffering begins, immediate. Krsna bhuliya jiva bhoga vancha kare, as soon as you desire to enjoy independently, immediately -- that means immediately he is captured by maya.

krsna bhuliya jiva bhoga vancha kare
pasate maya tare japatiya dhare

It is very easy to understand. Just like if you don't care for the government laws, if you want to live independently, that means immediately you are in the clutches of the police force. You haven't got to create, it is already there. So our position is always dependent on God. We should understand this. This is Krsna consciousness. Therefore, Bhaktivinoda Thakura has a song,

manaso deho geho, yo kichu mora,
arpilun tuya pade nanda-kisora

This mistake is going on, that I am independent, king, and my soldiers or my society, community, family or -- so many we have manufactured -- but

dehapatya-kalatradisv
atma-sainyesv asatsv api
tesam nidhanam pramattah
pasyann api na pasyati

Just like a man fights, just like Hitler declared war, or so many wars are declared. This man is declaring, everyone is thinking, "I am independent." So, and we are thinking that we have got so many soldiers, so many atomic bombs, and so many aeroplanes, we shall come out victorious. Similarly, each and everyone of us, we are thinking, "I am independent, and my wife, my children, my society, they are my soldiers. If I am in danger, they will help me." This is going on. This is called maya. Pramattah tesam nidhanam pasyann api na pasyati, because we have become mad after this so-called independence, independence of God, we are thinking these things will help us, will protect us, but that is maya. Tesam nidhanam, everyone will be destroyed. Nobody will be able to give us protection. If real protection is wanted, he will have to take protection of Krsna. That is the instruction of Bhagavad-gita, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. You rascal, you are thinking that so many things will give you protection. That will not be possible. You will be finished, and your so-called protector, and friends, and soldiers, they will be finished. You don't depend on them. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam... [Bg. 18.66], you just surrender unto Me, I'll give you protection, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah. This is real protection.

Everyone is falsely thinking independent, but he is dependent. But he is depending on false platform. That is the mistake of this material civilization. They are thinking of protection from a (sic:) tiltering platform, material world. So we have to take shelter of Krsna. Krsna is very friendly to all of us. Therefore he comes down from Vaikuntha to inform this, that is Bhagavad-gita. And that is elaborately explained in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. This is the only thing. So the crisis, people are faced with so many crises, problems. That I told in the airport. The reporter asked me "What is the solution of this crisis?" The solution is Krsna consciousness, it is already there, but you rascal, you will not take it. Solution is already there. If the Arabians think that this oil is Krsna's property and the others, purchasers, they also think, Krsna's property, then they must agree also. America also must agree that this land of America is also Krsna's property. If you think that the Arabian oil is Krsna's property, God's property, we shall take it, by force. Then why the Arabians should not be allowed to come from the desert and live in America? But they (are) foolish, they will not come, they have got United Nations. But United Nations means simply committing mistake, mistake, mistake, mistake. That's all. That is their business. Why don't you united? Yes, this Arabian oil is Krsna's property. Similarly the Australian land, or the African land, or this American land, so vast tract of land But "No, you can not come here, yow yow." They say, the immigration department. You see. Yow yow department.

So this nonsense, these rascals, all these politicians, they're spoiling the situation, but they are so big rascal, they'll not accept the solution. Take Krsna consciousness, and everything will be solved. That's a fact. Mudha, but they're so rascal, duskrtina, and full of sinful activities, na mam duskrtina mudhah prapadyante naradhamah, and lowest of the mankind. So always remember that our preaching work is dealing with these kind of men. Duskrtina means full of sinful activities. Mudha, rascals, naradhamah, lowest of the mankind and mayayapahrta-jnana, and they're thinking very much advanced in education, but fool number one maya has taken their away, real knowledge, mayayapahrta-jnana. Asuri bhavam asritah. Why all these things? Because they are Godless, only fault is Godless. Asuri bhavam asritah. Because they have taken the position (that) there is no God. These big, big scientists, they are trying to prove there is no God, "This creation is due from matter from chemical, the water has come from chemical combination, hydrogen, oxygen. These are the..." All foolish theories, and they are getting Nobel prize. They are getting Nobel prize. This is the position.

Therefore, from this verse, you should know evam krsna-sakhah krsno bhratra rajna vikalpitah, nana-sanka... These rascals, our Say our elder brother, advance, they're suggesting, "This the cause of," "this is the cause of," "this is the cause of," "this is the cause of." But the only cause is Krsna, forgetfulness of Krsna, that they do not know. The only cause.

krsna bhuliya jiva bhoga vancha kare,
pasate maya tare japatiya (dhare)

This is the cause. So try to preach this cult. But not that everyone will accept, but even a few percent, one percent of the whole population accept. Just like in the sky, there is one moon only and there are millions of stars. They're useless. What is the value of the millions of stars? But one moon, oh, dissipate the whole darkness of night. Similarly, at least those who have taken to Krsna consciousness, you become, each of you become a moon and enlighten the world. These so-called glow-worms, they'll not be able to do anything. That's a fact. Don't remain a glow-worm. Just become a sun and moon. Then you will..., people will be happy, you will be happy.

Thank you very much. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.1 -- New York, November 29, 1973