74/04/28 Hyderabad, Bhagavad-gita 7.2
Devotee: Translation. "I shall now declare unto you in full this knowledge, both phenomenal and noumenal, by knowing which there shall remain nothing further to be known."
Prabhupada: Hmm.
jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam
idam vaksyamy asesatah
yaj jnatva na iha bhuyah anyat
jnatavyam avasisyate
[Bg. 7.2]
Yesterday I was speaking in that meeting... What is school?
Devotee: (indistinct)
Prabhupada: So, I began from the Seventh Chapter of Bhagavad-gita, how to develop Krsna consciousness. This Krsna consciousness movement can be introduced to every living entity. There is a verse in Caitanya-caritamrta, it is said there, nitya-siddha krsna-bhakti. Nitya-siddha. Nitya-siddha means, just like we eat. All living entities, they eat. There is no, nothing new introduction when we eat or sleep or have sex life, or when there is danger we will defend. These are nitya-siddha, natural. Wherever there is a living entity, these four things are there. It doesn't matter whether he is human being or a small microbe. These things are there. Nitya-siddha. Similarly, krsna-bhakti, love of Krsna, that is also natural. It is not artificial. Nitya-siddha krsna-bhakti. But somehow or other, by our association with this material nature, we have forgotten. We are not material nature. That is the first education of Krsna consciousness or spiritual knowledge. We are spiritual, and Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godead, He is also complete spirit. He is not material. Even the impersonalist, Sankaracarya, he has described about Narayana in his commentary on Bhagavad-gita, narayanah parah avyaktat. Narayana, the Personality of Godhead, is not anything of this material world. Parah avyaktat, avyaktat andha sambhavah. But from the avyaktat, this material world, or the universe, is created. Therefore Narayana or Krsna... Krsna is the original Narayana. That is a big definition or understanding from the Vedic knowledge, that Krsna, from Krsna first expansion is Baladeva, from Baladeva there is Sankarsana, Pradyumna, Aniruddha. In this way, expansion takes place. And from Sankarsana also Narayana, Vaikuntha Narayana. And from Narayana the Purusa Avatara, Visnu. In this way there is expansion. Ramadi-murtisu kala-niyamena tisthan. So, the Narayana or expansion of Narayana, Krsna or expansion of Krsna, they are not of this material world. Narayanah avyaktat. Paras tasmat tu bhavah anyah. There is another, spiritual, world. Vyako 'vyaktat sanatanah. Avyaktat is material, and above this avyaktat, there is a sanatanah, eternal abode.
So, this Krsna consciousness movement, it is nothing of this material world. This Hare Krsna mantra, it is also not any vibration of this material world. There is a verse by Narottama dasa Thakura, golokera prema-dhana hari-nama-sankirtana. This hari-nama-sankirtana is vibration from the spiritual world. Just like you receive some message, vibration of the material world, from Europe, from America. So that is not Indian vibration but American vibration or European vibration. Similarly, there is vibration in the spiritual world. Simply one has to catch. You must have that machine. So, that machine is there within you. The heart is the machine where you can receive the spiritual message, because within the heart there is Narayana. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese. Particularly it is mentioned, hrd-dese. So because Narayana, or isvara, is situated within the heart of everyone, there is no necessity of researching where is Narayana. The sastra says it is within your heart. Therefore the yogis, they practice yogic rocess how to see Narayana within the heart. Dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa yam pasyanti yogino. The yogic process is to see Narayana within the heart. Similarly, you can hear also Narayana by this transcendental vibration. He can be perceived, because we have got senses, different senses. We can see, and we can hear also. Because the Supreme Personality of Godhead is Absolute Truth, by any of your senses, either by seeing or by hearing, it is the same thing. Nama cintamanih krsnas caitanya-rasa-vigrahah. Rasa-vigrahah. Nama, this name, holy name of Krsna or holy name of Rama, they are rasa-vigrahah, transcendental blissful form. That is also... Vigraha means form. That form is understood through the ear, and it goes to the heart. In this way we can perceive Narayana by chanting Hare Krsna maha-mantra. It requires little practice, as they are enunciated in the sastras and directed by the spiritual master. Then one can understand, or one can see. Just like, premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santah sadaiv hrdayesu viloka, the same thing hrdayesu. As it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese arjuna tisthati. Similarly, the same thing is stated there in the Vedic literature. Bhagavad-gita is also Vedic literature, Brahma-samhita. Premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti. Same, the same thing hrda.
So, anyone can see God within his heart, if he adopts the process, bona fide process. Narayana is within you. Therefore, great, great saintly persons, they are sitting in a lowly place, alone. But he is not alone. He is with Narayana, Krsna. He is seeing always there. So he is not alone. We are always accompanied by the Supreme Personality of Godhead as paramatma, antaryami, within the heart. That is the Vedic statement, that there are two birds sitting on the same tree. One bird is enjoying the fruit of the tree, and the other bird is simply witnessing. So the two birds, jivatma and paramatma, are always associated. He is so kind, He is just looking forward, "When this jivatma, who is illusioned, bewildered, captivated by this material world, material enjoyment, when he will come back again to Me?" Just like father and the son, the son who has gone out of home. The father is always looking forward when the son would come back at home and enjoy. Similarly, Krsna, the supreme father, He is always looking forwad when we shall go back to Him. Therefore, He comes personally, yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata, tadatmanam srjamy aham. The general opportunity for human being is to understand God, or Krsna, and go back to Him again. We have come from Him, but we are attracted by this material enjoyment, which is not very pleasurable. It is suffering. Just like here, without this fan, it was uncomfortable, excessive heat. So, excessive heat, excessive cold, so many things, adhibautic, adhyatmic, adhidaivic. We are actually suffering always. This is the nature of this material world. Stringent laws of the material world. And still we are trying to become happy by some adjustment. This is called struggle for existence. In this way we cannot be happy.
Real happiness is there, yad gatva na nivartante tad dhama paramam mama. Vita-raga-bhaya-krodhah man-maya mad ar..., mam upasritah bahavo jnana-tapasa puta mad-bhavam agatah. These are the descriptions in the Bhagavad-gita. Vita-raga-bhaya-krodhah. Vita-raga. Raga means attachment. So we are now attached to this material world. So, by practice one becomes vita-raga, no more attachment for the material world. That is possible. Bhaktih paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra ca. If you develop your normal bhakti, or devotional life, that krsna-bhakti nitya-siddha sadhya kabhu naya. It has to be awakened. Then you will become vita-raga. Bhaya-krodha, and this material world is always fearful. Every living entity is fearful what will happen next. There are, just like at the present moment, everywhere, every time, every, always we are fearful. Bhayam dvitiyabhinivesatah syad. As soon as we forget our constitutional position and Krsna, then an artificial way of fearfulness is created. So vita-raga-bhaya-krodhah man-maya ma upasritah. But this bhaya can be overcome, and this attachment can be overcome when we become Krsna conscious. Man-maya mam upasritah bahavo jnana-tapasa puta mad-bhavam agatah. Mad-bhavam, My nature. The spiritual nature of the spiritual world, that came. How? This is the process, vita-raga-bhaya-krodhah man-maya mam upasritah. Bahavo. Not only one, two, but bahavo, many. Bahavah jnana-tapasa puta. By..., one has to be purified. That is called putah. Without being purified you cannot enter into the spiritual world. Vita-raga-bhaya, jnana-tapasa puta, mad-bhavam agatah. So these are the statements of the Bhagavad-gita and there are many others, statements. So this Krsna consciousness movement is meant for taking back all the suffering humanity, all living entities, back to home, back to Godhead. This is the sum and substance of Krsna consciousness movement.
So, here Krsna says that, "I am explaining to you how that knowledge of going back to home, back to Godhead can be attained." Therefore He is saying here, jnanam te aham sa-vijnanam. Jnanam means theoretical knowledge. That is called jnanam. And sa-vijnanam means practical knowledge. Just like in the scientific department of colleges, there are, for understanding anything scientifically there are two divisions: practical and theoretical. So jnanam is theoretical, and vijnanam means practical. Simply to know there is God, this is theoretical knowledge. But when actually you become connected with God, you practice the activ..., godly activities, that is called vijnanam. So, Krsna will explain in this chapter the knowledge of God, both theoretically and practically. Jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam vaksyami, "I shall speak to you," asesatah. Asesatah means vividly. Asesatah. "And briefly," samanvitah. And when it is said asesatah, that means elaborate. But yaj jnatva, "if somehow or other you understand this knowledge" yaj jnatva, na iha, "in this material world," iha, iha means this material world; bhuyah, "again"; anyat, "anything more"; jnatavyam avasisyate, "no more," "you require no more further knowledge to understand." That is the statement in the Vedas, yasmin vijnate sarvam evam vijnatam bhavati (Mundaka Upanisad 1.3). If you simply understand Krsna, because Krsna is everything, so if you understand Krsna, automatically you understand what is this world, what is this earth, what is this water, what is this fire. This is material things. What is this air, what is this sky, what is this mind, what is this intelligence, what is this ego, and what is the soul. In this way you understand everything, because these material elements -- earth, water, fire, air, sky -- that will be explained in the next verse, it is the expansion of Krsna's energy. As there are energies and the energetic, just like the fire. The fire has got two energies. One energy is the heat, and one energy is light. Just like in the morning, as soon as you see the light from you window, you can understand that there is sunrise. By the energy, light of the sun, you can understand there is now the sun on the sky. Heat also. When you are too much heated, even within the room, even if you do not see the sun, you can understand that this heat is due to the sun. Similarly, we have to understand the presence of the Supreme Personality of Godhead by perceiving the different energies. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate. At the present moment we are trying to understand the energy of Krsna. We cannot see directly Krsna. But as soon as you see the energy or you perceive the energy, you can understand there is Krsna, there is God. That is called intelligence. This is called jnanam. And when you are directly in connection with Krsna, or directly in the service, that is called vijnanam.
jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam
idam vaksyamy asesatah
yaj jnatva na iha bhuyah anyat
jnatavyam avasisyate
[Bg. 7.2]
Now, why this jnanam required? Because our mission of life is to... You can not understand with your foolish brain what is God. That is not possible. They are trying to understand God by the limited senses. How you can understand? We are defective in so many ways. First of all we commit mistakes, and we are illusioned, we try to cheat others, and our senses are imperfect. So, how you can understand with your limited senses, with so many defects? That is not possible. Therefore you have to understand God from God Himself, or from His representative. Therefore Krsna said that, mayy asakta-manah partha yogam yunjan mad-asrayah. Mad-asrayah: "directly under My direction, or under the direction of My representative." You cannot understand Krsna if you remain under your personal intelligence. Everyone says that "I shall understand this by my own dint of knowledge, by speculation." That is not possible. Krsna says that you have to understand. Here also it is the same thing said, jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam vaksyamy aham, "I shall speak to you." So this is the secret of success, if you want to understand God, what is God. Everyone, there are many philosophers, scientists, they are trying to understand God by research, but that research will not help you. You have to understand directly from God, or from God's representative. That is the way.
So, in the Vedic literature it is said,
athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-
prasada-lesanugrhita eva hi
janati tattvam...
Janati tattvam, te deva.
"My Lord, one who has received, one who is able to receive a little favor from You, he can understand Your tattva."
athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-
prasada-lesanugrhita eva hi
janati tattvam (bhagavan-mahimno)
na canya eko 'pi ciram vicinvan
[SB 10.14.29]
Others, who are simply speculating, they cannot understand You. Therefore, people are bewildered how God is person. But they cannot understand, because they have not taken shelter of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna, or His representative. It is impossible for him. Naham prakasah sarvasya yoga-maya-sama... [Bg. 7.25]. Krsna cannot be exposed to the nondevotees. Naham prakasah sarvasya. Not anyone, ordinary common man, can understand. Therefore, we have to understand Krsna, or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, from Krsna, not from anyone who is simply speculating or wrongly interpreting Bhagavad-gita. They cannot understand. That is the way.
jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam
idam vaksyamy asesatah
yaj jnatva na iha bhuyah anyat
jnatavyam avasisyate
[Bg. 7.2]
Therefore our Krsna consciousness movement is just to try to understand what is Krsna. That's all. What is Krsna. Because if you perfectly understand Krsna, then immediately you become liberated, and you become eligible to be transferred to the spiritual world. That is stated, divyam. Janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah [Bg. 4.9]. If one can understand Krsna, why He appears, why He disappears, and... And these are, they are all transcendental; they are not ordinary. Because we understand Krsna as a historical person, a person like me, maybe a very great personality with more power than me. Yes, that He is, but you do not know how much powerful He is. Because He is God, He is powerful in full. There is no deficiency in His power. Aisvaryasya samagrasya viryasya yasasah sriyah. He is powerful in complete, purnam, purnasya purnam adaya purnam evavasisyate [Iso Invocation]. Even though Krsna, from Krsna all His power is taken away, still He is purnam, He is still all-powerful. So, janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah. So we haveto understand Krsna in truth, not superficially. In scientifically, vijnanam, jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam. Not foolishly, that "I can interpret Krsna." Some rascal says that Krsna means black. Some rascal says Krsna means this, Krsna means a debauch, as according to one's character and angle of vision. But real meaning of Krsna is param brahma. Krsi go va... Krsi bhu-vacaka-sabda nasta nirvrtti-vacaka (?) iti krsna param brahma iti abhidhiyate. Krsna means param brahma. Krsna means all-attractive. So we have to take the understanding of great personality. Rama. Rama. Rama means param brahma.
ramante yogino 'nante
satyananda-cid-atmani
iti rama-padenasau
param brahma iti abhidhiyate
So this Hare Krsna Hare Rama means direct connection with the param brahma.
nama cintamanih krsnas
caitanya-rasa-vigrahah
purnah suddho nitya-mukto
'bhinnatvan nama-naminoh
These things have to be understood, that nama-naminah abhinnatvan, identical. So when we chant "Krsna," "Hare," "Rama," they are directly connection with the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Even though we do not know how to chant, there are, according to sastric, I mean to say, injunctions, there are ten kinds of offenses. When we avoid that offenses, then it is pure chanting of the Hare Krsna mantra. So even if we chant with offenses in the beginning -- it cannot be free of offenses -- still it will act. Just like you come near the fire, you can feel the warmth, and with direct touch it becomes red hot. So, we have to be in touch with the fire, then gradually we become warmer, warmer, warmer, warmer and red hot, red hot. Just like another example, just like you take a lead, iron rod, and keep in touch with the fire. It becomes warm, warmer, warmest, then gradually the iron rod becomes red hot. When it is red hot, then it is fire. You touch that iron rod anywhere, it will burn. The quality of fire is already acquired. Similarly, if you keep always in touch with Krsna,
smartavyah satatam visnur
vismartavyo na jatucit
sarve vidhi-nisedhah syur
etayor eva kinkarah
The, to become advanced in Krsna consciousness, the first principle is smartavyah satatam visnur, "Always remember Visnu, or Krsna." That is the beginning, to touch. Vismartavyo na jatucit, never forget. So this Hare Krsna maha-mantra, if you chant, there is no expenditure, but the profit is very, very great, because you are touched in Krsna, and Krsna and Krsna's name nondifferent, identical. Nama cintamanih krsnas caitanya-rasa-vigrahah, purnah. It is not that partial, purnah, because the name is of the purnah. Purnasya purnam adaya purnam evavasisyate [Iso Invocation]. This is the Vedic version.
So it is not very difficult. Simply try to be in touch with the vibration. Where is the wrong there? What is the loss there? If you chant, just like these boys, they, you have seen the picture, they have taken it seriously. They are working in the field: Hare Krsna. They are working in the factory, of incense factory: Hare Krsna. Where is the wrong there? Why India is not taking this? If you work in your factory, if you chant Hare Krsna, then what is the loss there? But you will remain always in touch with Krsna, smartavyah satatam visnur. This formula is (indistinct). We shall talk so many nonsense things, but you are not, (indistinct), desiring to chant Hare Krsna. This is our fault. Otherwise Krsna is so kind. Nama rupe krsna avatara. Krsna is now descended in His vibration form, Hare Krsna, this Kali-yuga. Kali-yuga, because we cannot do anything, therefore Krsna has become very easily available in the form of His holy name, Hare Krsna. Krsna is available. You can see Krsna, you can touch Krsna, you can tlk with Krsna. As you may advance in Krsna consciousness, that is possible. Then, gradually making progress means gradually you will be lover of Krsna. That is required. Mayy asakta, as soon as you become lover, you become attached. That is required. Now, at the present moment, we are attached to so many things, because we have forgotten Krsna. Now gradually, if you increase your attachment for Krsna, then you will forget all these material. That is liberation. That is liberation. Bondage means we are becoming more and more attracted with this material world, and on account of this attraction, we have to accept another body, material body. And as soon as you accept a material body, you become under the control of this material nature. Liberation means to be freed from the control of the material nature. It is a great science. Try to understand. Therefore it is said, jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam. It is not sentiment. It is not religious sentiment. It is a science. Krsna consciousness means to understand the sciece of Krsna. We are understanding so many subject matters scientifically, but we are neglecting one thing: how to understand Krsna scientifically. That science is described here, jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam. Jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam aham vaksyamy asesatah yaj jnatva [Bg. 7.2]. If you simply try to understand the science of Krsna, then all other sciences will be automatically understood. Just like if you understand what is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, zero, then you understand the whole mathematical science, because the mathematics means that one, two, three, four, five, six, this way, that way, this way, that way. The only, the figures are all, the digits are the one, two, three, four. So therefore one has to learn one, two, three, four, up to nine, and zero. Similarly, if you understand Krsna, the, indirectly and directly, everything is Krsna. That is the highest scientific understanding of everything. That is a fact. Krsna is earth, Krsna is water, Krsna is air, Krsna is fire, Krsna is sky, rsna is mind, Krsna is intelligence, Krsna is ego, and Krsna is soul. So, this is required, jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam.
Then next verse Krsna says that,
manusyanam sahasresu
kascid yatati siddhaye
yatatam api siddhanam
kascin mam vetti tattvatah
[Bg. 7.3]
The same thing, tattvatah, we have to understand. In the Fourth Chapter it is said that janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah [Bg. 4.9]. That tattvatah, you can understand Krsna tattvatah. Then another place Krsna says, bhaktya mam abhijanati yavan yas casmi tattvatah. So our aim should be to understand Krsna tattvatah in truth, not superficially, not by foolish commentary. If we simply try to follow what Krsna has said, what is the difficulty? There is no difficulty, but foolishly we interpret in a different way, and maya takes away our knowledge, mayayapahrta-jnana. He is thinking that he is very learned scholar, but he is fool number..., rascal number one. Therefore Krsna says mayayapahrta-jnana. Na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah. Krsna is speaking so many ways about Himself. Without understanding Krsna in His own way, we are trying to understand Krsna in different way. Therefore Krsna says mayayapahrta-jnana, asuri bhavam. The atheistic class of men, they interpret in a different way, because theirknowledge has been taken by maya. And why it is so? Because they are sinful. duskrtinah, mudhah, naradhamah. These things are there. You will find in Bhagavad-gita. It is not our manufactured word. Therefore, our proposal is, try to understand Krsna. Try to understand Bhagavad-gita as it is! Do not misinterpret, do not be misled by the misinterpreters. Then your life will be successful. You will understand what is Krsna, and you will become Krsna conscious. Then, tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti kaunteya.
So, the, in the Western world, they are taking more and more seriously about this Krsna consciousness movement. So our only request is that in India also, at least those who are sympathetic with this movement, kindly try to understand Krsna scientifically, and your life will be successful.
Thank you very much. (end)
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74/06/29 Melbourne, Bhagavad-gita 7.1
Prabhupada: So here it is said that asamsayam. Asamsayam means without doubt. Without doubt. And samagram, samagram means in complete. Those who are philosophers, speculating what is God, what is the Absolute Truth, they cannot know. That is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam,
athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-
prasada-lesanugrhita eva hi
janati tattvam (bhagavan-mahimno)
na canya eko 'pi ciram vicinvan
[SB 10.14.29]
One who is, I mean to say, has gotten, who has gotten a little favor of Krsna, God, he can understand. Athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-prasada, one who has got little mercy of the lotus feet of Krsna, athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-prasada-lesa, little mercy, janati tattvam, he can understand what is God. Little favor; not all favor, a little. Others, ciram vicinvan, they may go on speculating, imagining what is God, "God may be like this," "God may be like that," "God may be like that." So in that way, ciram vicinvan, for many, many millions of years, if one thinks like that, he cannot understand. Therefore, Krsna comes Himself, and He manifests His pastimes in Vrndavana as cowherd boy -- how He is playing with His friends, how He is dealing with Radharani, how He is dealing with His parents. Everything is manifested practically just like ordinary human being. But at the same time, whenever there is need, big, big demons, beginning from Putana, when He was only a few months old, He is maintaining His position asGod, but dealing with His devotees. This father and mother and friends, lover, all in Vrndavana, who are they? They are expansion of Krsna. That story we have got in the Krsna book, that Brahma stolen all the cows and calves and cowherd boys. Stolen, and Krsna immediately created another set. Then Brahma understood that "Here is the Supreme Lord, my master." So, these, Krsna's associates, they are all also Krsna, expansion of Krsna. Ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhavitabhis tabhir ya eva nija-rupataya kalabhih. We are also expansion of Krsna. We living entities, Krsna says in the Bhagavata, mamaivamso, part and parcel.
So, samagram, one has to understand actually what is Krsna in complete. If you want to that, know that, then this is the process, mayi, mayi asakta-manah, mayy asakta-manah [Bg. 7.1], the mind has to be engaged in Krsna, first thing is. Mind. Therefore, Krsna manifests Himself in this Deity form. The Deity is Krsna Himself. But we cannot concentrate Krsna which is not visible. Krsna is not visible to the ordinary eyes. Atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih [Cc. Madhya 17.136]. God is not perceptible with our, this material eyes, our material senses. atah sri-krsna-namadi na, even material ears. You are chanting. If you are not spiritually advanced, this chanting of Hare Krsna mantra also will not appeal. It will be happening mechanically. But by chanting you will gradually advance, ceto-darpana-marjanam, then you will understand that this Hare Krsna mantra is not different from Krsna. The mantra, the sound vibration, is also Krsna. So, we have to, I mean to say, repose our mind to the form of Krsna. Krsna says mayi, "Unto Me, rsna." We cannot see now Krsna personally. Personally He is here, but we want to see anything physically. Physically He is also there. Here, Krsna murti is physical, but, because you are differently educated, you do not know what is this world of physics. We think that this is different from Krsna. That will be explained. Therefore it is said, tac chrnu. Asamsayam samagram mam yatha jnasyasi tac chrnu. "You just hear from Me, as you can understand Me in complete, without any doubt." So Krsna is instructing Himself, about Himself. Why there should be any doubt? There cannot be any doubt. God is explaining Himself about Him, then why there should be doubt? This is the, this is called bhakti-yoga. Mad-asrayah. Mayy asakta-manah partha. So how you can engage your mind in the Supreme Personality of Godhead if you do not know the form? Therefore Krsna comes in His original form.
yada yada hi dharmasya
glanir bhavati bharata
(abhyutthanam adharmasya)
tadatmanam srjamy aham
When people forget or become engaged otherwise, rascaldom, duskrtinah, at that time He comes. He comes Himself or sends His representative to make this rascal know that "Here is Krsna." Tadatmanam srjamy aham. In the form of name, in the form of Deity, in the form of picture, in the, so many ways. If you think of Krsna within yourself, that "Krsna is like this, Krsna's leg is like this, Krsna's flute is like this, Krsna's hand is like this, mouth is like this, He is dressed like this," this meditation is perfect meditation. Not imagination. So that your mind will be gradually absorbed in Krsna.
So, Krsna comes therefore personally and exhibits this Krsna murti. Just like here is the picture of your spiritual master. So you worship this picture. You know that "This is my spiritual master's picture." Similarly, if somebody disregards this picture, you will not tolerate. Similarly, Krsna's Deity and Krsna not different. I was explaining this morning, Krsna has come, kindly, to accept your service as you can deal with Him. If Krsna comes in His gigantic form -- Krsna has got gigantic form also, as it was shown to Arjuna -- you will not be able to capture Him, neither you have any means to dress him. Suppose the universal form of Krsna is there, and you have to dress Him, so the (laughter) whole cloth factory will be finished.(laughter) Is it not? How you can dress? You have no capacity to dress. But Krsna has kindly accepted a form, the Deity. You can purchase cloth according to your means, and with your great devotion, you can dress. Similarly, the gigantic gigantic virat-rupa, universal form, the whole, it s described in the Bhagavad-gita that He is eating, the whole humanity is going on in His mouth. Then where you will get such food? (laughter) The whole human..., the whole universal living entities can be devoured by Krsna. But, because you are not able to offer such gigantic food to Krsna, Krsna says, "All right, give Me," patram puspam phalam toyam, "give Me a little flower, give Me a little fruit, give Me a little water, I shall accept it." This is called arcana-viddhi. Krsna has agreed to accept your service as you can afford to do. It is not idol worship. It is actually worshiping Krsna.
So therefore Krsna said, mayy asakta-manah partha, that simply you have to increase your attachment for Krsna. This is bhakti-yoga. We have got attachment for so many things. Our attachment is now disbursed in so many ways. You have to concentrate that attachment to Krsna, then your business will be successful, bhakti-yoga, mayy asakta-manah, "Mine." Sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayor. Somehow or other you have to engage your mind at the lotus feet of Krsna. Therefore so many paraphernalia how to engage your mind. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh: hearing about Krsna, chanting about Krsna, thinking of Krsna, worshiping Krsna, talking about Krsna, writing about Krsna, selling the books about Krsna, eating Krsna prasadam. In this way you become Krsnaized. All-around Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness. This is called bhakti-yoga. This is called bhakti. Somehow or other, you become surrounded by Krsna atmosphere. This is Krsna consciousness. Mayy asakta-manah partha yogam yunjan, this is yoga, mad-asrayah, not... Mad-asrayah means "taking shelter of Me." So, "taking shelter of Me" through beginning teaching. Understanding of Krsna, taking shelter of Krsna's representative. Guru-krsna-krpaya paya bhakti-lata-bija. By Krsna's mercy one gets guru, and guru's mercy one gets Krsna. So, if one is sincere, he will take advantage of guru's mercy and Krsna's mercy, and then he will be perfect. This is called bhakti-yoga. Not that "I am now very much advanced, I don't require any help from my guru," as somebody are doing. This is rascaldom. You cannot get Krsna by overcoming guru. That is not possible. Therefore Caitanya-caritamrta, guru-krsna-krpaya paya. We should always remember that by the mercy of Krsna we get guru, and by the mercy of guru we get Krsna. So we have to seek mercies of both of them.
So, mayy asakta, mad, mad-asrayah. Mad-asrayah means, mat-asrayah, one...., guru means...., who has taken full shelter of Krsna, he is guru. A, a guru does not mean that he has taken shelter of somebody else and he has become guru. That is not. Guru means one who has taken full shelter, complete surrender to Krsna, he is guru. Or he speaks only what is spoken by Krsna. Just like we have, speaking in this Bhagavad-gita, as it is. There is no malinterpretation. Krsna says sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. The guru will teach his disciple that "You surrender to Krsna." Krsna is God, He is saying "Surrender to Me," and guru is saying "You surrender to Krsna." Therefore the statement is the same. Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru, so guru will say the same thing, that "You always think of Krsna, you become a devotee of Krsna, you offer worship to Krsna, you offer your obeisances." This is guru's business. Not that because in the sastra it is said that guru should be honore as Krsna, as bhagavan, therefore guru will think, "I have become bhagavan." No. That is mayavada. The disciple will offer as respect, as much respect he offers to Krsna, to guru. That is the sastric injunction. For that reason the real guru will not think that "I have become Krsna." Kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasado. By the mercy of guru, you get the mercy of Krsna. If, if guru approves, that "Here is a nice devotee," then Krsna accepts, "Yes, here is a nice devotee."
So therefore yasya prasadad, our business is to please guru. If he is satisfied, then Krsna immediately becomes satisfied, because he is the agent. That is very easy to understand. Suppose you are working in office, your immediate boss the superintendent, if he is pleased, that means the managing director is also pleased. You haven't got to please the managing director separately. If you please his representative, then the managing director sees the report, "Yes this man is working nice." That he will accept. He has never seen him. But that is not the fact, Krsna also seeing you. So this is called mad-asritah. Yunjan..., mayy asakta-manah partha yogam yunjan mad-asrayah. You have to take shelter of Krsna. And Krsna, because you have no direct touch of Krsna, therefore you take shelter of Krsna's representative. Then this yunjan begins. He will teach you how to practice the bhakti-yoga, how to worship Him, how to think of Him, how to offer obeisances, how to observe the ceremonies. Just like yesterday we perfomed the ceremonies, Ratha-yatra, so this dress, Jagannatha dress, and function, everything you have to learn. This is called bhakti-yoga, mad-asrayah. And this, the beginning is mayy asakta-manah, asakta. Asakti, we have to develop attachment. If you do not develop attachment for Krsna, then other thing does not come.
So this asakti attachment has to be practiced. That asakti, there is rules and regulation, or the method how you can develop, increase your attachment for Krsna. So, the first thing is adau sraddha, faith, that "If I become Krsna conscious, I will be happy. That is my goal of life." This is called sraddha. If you have no sraddha, that "By loving Krsna, by surrendering to Krsna, my life will be perfect, that is perfection of life," then there is no beginning of bhakti-yoga. So first thing is this. Just like Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. So, "You give up all other engagement, just surrender to Me." So if you have got faith actually, then you can devote yourself fully, cent percent in the service of, that is the beginning, adau sraddha, "Yes, Krsna says that by surrendering to Him I shall be free from all sinful reaction." If you have got faith, then you surrender, and actually you will be free from all sinful reaction. Krsna says... Krsna is not making any bogus propaganda. He sai, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami, "I shall get you released from all reaction of sinful life." We are suffering because there is reaction of sinful life, but if you surrender to Krsna, then your all reaction of sinful life is immediately nullified, squared up.
So this is the process of bhakti-yoga. You surrender and, in the past, whatever sinful activities you have done, that is squared up, now account closed. Now you begin a new life, devotional life, and if you stick to the principle as it is instructed, that do not have illicit sex life, do not have intoxicants, do not eat meat, do not play gambling, speculate, you promise before Krsna and before the spiritual master, before the Vaisnavas, so many witnesses, and if you violate, then you can understand what you are doing. You promise with..., before the Deity. Krsna is not different, so when the initiation takes place we promise so many things. But if we do not follow, if we do not keep our promise, that is a great fault. If you, by chance, by mistake, you violate the regulative principle, that is excused, but if willingly, if you go on committing sinful life -- so just like in the Churches they go to confess and again begin -- that kind of business will not help you. That kind of business will not help you. Now I have confessed, now I begin new chapter of sinful life. Again I shall confess. Krsna is not so fool that you can cheat Him by this process. No, that is not possible. You can be executing the process of your advancement; unwillingly if you commit some mistake, that will be excused. That is said in the Bhagavad-gita, api cet su-duracaro bhajate mam ananya-bhak sadhur eva sa mantavyah. Sometimes we take shelter of this verse, that api cet su-duracaro, "However sinful you might, may be," bhajate mam ananya-bhak, "if he is fully engaged in My service..." But this word is very important. One cannot be fully engaged in the service of Krsna unless he is purified. Yesam tv anta-gatam papam jananam punya-karmanam [Bg. 7.28]. One who is completely free from reaction of sinful life and is always engaged in pious activities, such person can be Krsna conscious. So it is..., it is not that one is a debauch, at the same time a Krsna conscious. That is a contradictory. It cannot be. If he is actually Krsna conscious, he is cannot be debauch. And if he is debauch, then he is not Krsna conscious. Two things cannot go parallel.
So, we are..., if we are fully surrendered to Krsna, Krsna takes our all sinful, because continually we are suffering. What is that? Because, just like the same example, a infection. I have infected, say, two, three kinds of disease, so I am suffering from one infection, again another infection. They come. They take time. Just like if you sow a seed, it not that immediately becomes a big tree and fruits. No. It takes some time. Similarly, our papa-bijam, the seed of sinful activity, we take it, but in the, immediately we may not see that it is fructified, but it will, in due course of time, it will. Same (indistinct), that one man has infected cholera bacteria, so not that immediately he is attacked with cholera; say after a few days. Therefore the injection is given, and that time is allowed in the medical treatment, so that if the infection has actually working, the disease will come. So immediately we may not see that we are infected with some certain type of sinful activities, but it will come into notice That is going on. Therefore we shall be careful not to infect. And how to become careful? If you always engage yourself in Krsna's service. Therefore the Deity worship in the temple is there to keep us always engaged. Not only Deity worship. The class, reading, hearing, kirtana. In so many ways. There are nine different kinds of ways,
sravanam kirtanam visnoh
smaranam pada-sevanam
arcanam vandanam dasyam
sakhyam atma...
Any way, if you keep yourself always engaged in Krsna consciousness, in Krsna's business, then you are immune. You will not be infected. This is the process. Keep yourself always engaged in Krsna consciousness business, you will always remain immune. Sa-gunan samatitya etan brahma-bhuyaya. And willfully, we shall not do anything which against the bhakti process, willfully. But because I am habituated... Suppose a smoker he has taken to Krsna consciousness, at least has promised that "I shall not smoke, I shall...," but all of a chance, sudden, suppose his friend seduces him: "Oh what is that, smoke today, doing." So sometimes we become induced, but we should always remember that "I have taken this vow. Why shall I be induced by my friend to smoke?" That is very nice. But even if by mistake you do that, that can be excused, but not willfully: "Now nobody is seeing, Krsna is not here. Let me smoke now." Not that. (laughter) Krsna's eyes are everywhere. You cannot escape Krsna's eyes.
So, in this way, this verse says that "Increase your attachment upon Me." That attachment can be..., the process is this, that first of all you must have full faith in Krsna, or full faith in the words of spiritual master. That is the beginning. If you have no faith, there is no question of advancing. The advance, there is no question. Finished, then everything is finished. First thing is faith. Then, then we have to associate with persons who have faith, sadhu-sangah. This, this is, our opening of different center means we are giving chance. So those who are inmates of the temple, they should be also such nice devotees that anyone who will come in the association of devotees, he will immediately develop a sense of devotion. That is the duty, those who are managing this temple. By his character, by his behavior, he will be influenced. This, this is next step. First of all faith, the next step is to associate with devotees. But devotees must be also sincere devotee, otherwise what will be the affect of such asociation? Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sango. Then, gradually he will be inclined to become one of the devotees. He will request the president, "Sir, you recommend me for being initiated. I am interested." That is called bhajana-kriya. Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sango 'tha bhajana-kriya. That bhajana-kriya, he is initiated, the activities begins officially. Then as he make advance in this bhajana-kriya, or activities in devotional service, then anartha-nivrttih syat, then all the unwanted things -- the so-called illicit sex life, meat-eating, drinking, gambling, even up to smoking and drinking tea -- finished. Anartha-nivrttih syat. Then you become pure. When you are pure, then your attachment for Krsna, athasaktis. That is called asaktih, attachment. Then tato nistha, then firm faith; tato rucih, taste; tatah saktih, then attachment; tato bhavah: in this way you will come to the platform of loving Krsna. Then your life is perfect. This verse explains that: how you can increase your devotional life, how you can become pefect, how you can know God perfectly, samagram; asamsayam, without any doubt. This is the process.
Thank you very much.
Devotees: Jaya. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.... (break)
Prabhupada: No question?
Devotee (1): Yes, right here Prabhupada.
Devotee (2): What gives a man the right to take the renounced order of life, Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Devotee (2): What, what gives a man the right to accept the renounced order of life?
Devotee (1): What, who gives?
Devotee (2): What qualifications?
Devotee (1): What qualifications should the man have to take sannyasa?
Prabhupada: Sannyasa?
Devotee (1): What qualifications?
Prabhupada: For sannyasi?
Devotee (1): Yes.
Prabhupada: Who has got no more material desires. Then he is fit for taking sannyasa. Sarvopadhi. Anyabhilasita-sunyam. Sunyam means zero. All material desires made into zero. Then sannyasa. Sannyasi, anasakta. That is described in the Bhagavad-gita, anasritah karma-phalam karyam karma karoti yah sa sannyasi... Who is a sannyasi? Anasakta. Anasakta means he is working day and night, but no attachment for the result. Karmis... What is the difference between karmi and sannyasa? Karmi is working so hard, day and night; he is expecting that "I shall get some money out of it and I shall enjoy." That is karmi. And sannyasi, he is working in the same way, day and night, but he is not expecting the profit for his personal use. For Krsna. That is sannyasa. What is the difference? There is no..., in the activities there is no difference, but the one is accepting the result for his personal benefit, and one is creating good result but not for his personal benefit, but Krsna's service. This is the definition of sannyasa. Anasakta..., anasritah karma-phalam karyam: he is doing as my duty. I am Krsna's servant, I have to do it. If I do not do it, then it is my misbehavior. Anasakta, anasritah karma-phalam karyam karma ka..., sa sannyasi ca yogi ca. Such person is yogi, such person is sannyasi, na niragnir na cakriyah. Not that artificially I have taken the dress of a sannyasi and talking nonsense. He is not sannyasi. Sannyasa means one who has completely devoted his life for Krsna. He is sannyasi, sa sannyasi, and he is yogi.
Devotee (1): Yes.
Devotee (3): Srila Prabhupada, how..., how is one able to draw the distinction between working very hard for Krsna and over-endeavoring?
Prabhupada: Hm. What is that -- phalena pariciyate. By the result you can understand. By service Krsna, he will understand more about Krsna. Krsna will be clear to him. That is the test, because it is said, sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam. Krsna cannot be realized by so-called speculation, but if you render service to Krsna, then Krsna will reveal to you. Revelation. So, he, how much service he is giving, that will be tested how much he has, I mean to say, realized Krsna. This is the test. If Krsna is still vague idea to him, then he has not advanced. This is the test. Just like if you are eating something, then you will feel satisfaction. You are hungry, you have been given some food, but you cannot say that "I am eating, also I am not satisfied in my hunger." That cannot be. If you are actually serving Krsna, then Krsna will reveal to you. You will know what is Krsna, asamsayam samagram mam, without any doubt, and fullness. Here is the test. If somebody comes, "What is Krsna," you say, "Yes, I am serving Krsna, but I do not know what is Krsna". What is his service? He must know, because here it is said, asamsayam samagram, without any doubt... (end)
>>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 7.1 -- Melbourne, June 29, 1974 (New-2003)
Prabhupada: So here it is said that asamsayam. Asamsayam means without doubt. Without doubt. And samagram, samagram means in complete. Those who are philosophers, speculating what is God, what is the Absolute Truth, they cannot know. That is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam,
athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-
prasada-lesanugrhita eva hi
janati tattvam (bhagavan-mahimno)
na canya eko 'pi ciram vicinvan
[SB 10.14.29]
One who is, I mean to say, has gotten, who has gotten a little favor of Krsna, God, he can understand. Athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-prasada, one who has got little mercy of the lotus feet of Krsna, athapi te deva padambuja-dvaya-prasada-lesa, little mercy, janati tattvam, he can understand what is God. Little favor; not all favor, a little. Others, ciram vicinvan, they may go on speculating, imagining what is God, "God may be like this," "God may be like that," "God may be like that." So in that way, ciram vicinvan, for many, many millions of years, if one thinks like that, he cannot understand. Therefore, Krsna comes Himself, and He manifests His pastimes in Vrndavana as cowherd boy -- how He is playing with His friends, how He is dealing with Radharani, how He is dealing with His parents. Everything is manifested practically just like ordinary human being. But at the same time, whenever there is need, big, big demons, beginning from Putana, when He was only a few months old, He is maintaining His position asGod, but dealing with His devotees. This father and mother and friends, lover, all in Vrndavana, who are they? They are expansion of Krsna. That story we have got in the Krsna book, that Brahma stolen all the cows and calves and cowherd boys. Stolen, and Krsna immediately created another set. Then Brahma understood that "Here is the Supreme Lord, my master." So, these, Krsna's associates, they are all also Krsna, expansion of Krsna. Ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhavitabhis tabhir ya eva nija-rupataya kalabhih. We are also expansion of Krsna. We living entities, Krsna says in the Bhagavata, mamaivamso, part and parcel.
So, samagram, one has to understand actually what is Krsna in complete. If you want to that, know that, then this is the process, mayi, mayi asakta-manah, mayy asakta-manah [Bg. 7.1], the mind has to be engaged in Krsna, first thing is. Mind. Therefore, Krsna manifests Himself in this Deity form. The Deity is Krsna Himself. But we cannot concentrate Krsna which is not visible. Krsna is not visible to the ordinary eyes. Atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih [Cc. Madhya 17.136]. God is not perceptible with our, this material eyes, our material senses. atah sri-krsna-namadi na, even material ears. You are chanting. If you are not spiritually advanced, this chanting of Hare Krsna mantra also will not appeal. It will be happening mechanically. But by chanting you will gradually advance, ceto-darpana-marjanam, then you will understand that this Hare Krsna mantra is not different from Krsna. The mantra, the sound vibration, is also Krsna. So, we have to, I mean to say, repose our mind to the form of Krsna. Krsna says mayi, "Unto Me, rsna." We cannot see now Krsna personally. Personally He is here, but we want to see anything physically. Physically He is also there. Here, Krsna murti is physical, but, because you are differently educated, you do not know what is this world of physics. We think that this is different from Krsna. That will be explained. Therefore it is said, tac chrnu. Asamsayam samagram mam yatha jnasyasi tac chrnu. "You just hear from Me, as you can understand Me in complete, without any doubt." So Krsna is instructing Himself, about Himself. Why there should be any doubt? There cannot be any doubt. God is explaining Himself about Him, then why there should be doubt? This is the, this is called bhakti-yoga. Mad-asrayah. Mayy asakta-manah partha. So how you can engage your mind in the Supreme Personality of Godhead if you do not know the form? Therefore Krsna comes in His original form.
yada yada hi dharmasya
glanir bhavati bharata
(abhyutthanam adharmasya)
tadatmanam srjamy aham
When people forget or become engaged otherwise, rascaldom, duskrtinah, at that time He comes. He comes Himself or sends His representative to make this rascal know that "Here is Krsna." Tadatmanam srjamy aham. In the form of name, in the form of Deity, in the form of picture, in the, so many ways. If you think of Krsna within yourself, that "Krsna is like this, Krsna's leg is like this, Krsna's flute is like this, Krsna's hand is like this, mouth is like this, He is dressed like this," this meditation is perfect meditation. Not imagination. So that your mind will be gradually absorbed in Krsna.
So, Krsna comes therefore personally and exhibits this Krsna murti. Just like here is the picture of your spiritual master. So you worship this picture. You know that "This is my spiritual master's picture." Similarly, if somebody disregards this picture, you will not tolerate. Similarly, Krsna's Deity and Krsna not different. I was explaining this morning, Krsna has come, kindly, to accept your service as you can deal with Him. If Krsna comes in His gigantic form -- Krsna has got gigantic form also, as it was shown to Arjuna -- you will not be able to capture Him, neither you have any means to dress him. Suppose the universal form of Krsna is there, and you have to dress Him, so the (laughter) whole cloth factory will be finished.(laughter) Is it not? How you can dress? You have no capacity to dress. But Krsna has kindly accepted a form, the Deity. You can purchase cloth according to your means, and with your great devotion, you can dress. Similarly, the gigantic gigantic virat-rupa, universal form, the whole, it s described in the Bhagavad-gita that He is eating, the whole humanity is going on in His mouth. Then where you will get such food? (laughter) The whole human..., the whole universal living entities can be devoured by Krsna. But, because you are not able to offer such gigantic food to Krsna, Krsna says, "All right, give Me," patram puspam phalam toyam, "give Me a little flower, give Me a little fruit, give Me a little water, I shall accept it." This is called arcana-viddhi. Krsna has agreed to accept your service as you can afford to do. It is not idol worship. It is actually worshiping Krsna.
So therefore Krsna said, mayy asakta-manah partha, that simply you have to increase your attachment for Krsna. This is bhakti-yoga. We have got attachment for so many things. Our attachment is now disbursed in so many ways. You have to concentrate that attachment to Krsna, then your business will be successful, bhakti-yoga, mayy asakta-manah, "Mine." Sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayor. Somehow or other you have to engage your mind at the lotus feet of Krsna. Therefore so many paraphernalia how to engage your mind. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh: hearing about Krsna, chanting about Krsna, thinking of Krsna, worshiping Krsna, talking about Krsna, writing about Krsna, selling the books about Krsna, eating Krsna prasadam. In this way you become Krsnaized. All-around Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness. This is called bhakti-yoga. This is called bhakti. Somehow or other, you become surrounded by Krsna atmosphere. This is Krsna consciousness. Mayy asakta-manah partha yogam yunjan, this is yoga, mad-asrayah, not... Mad-asrayah means "taking shelter of Me." So, "taking shelter of Me" through beginning teaching. Understanding of Krsna, taking shelter of Krsna's representative. Guru-krsna-krpaya paya bhakti-lata-bija. By Krsna's mercy one gets guru, and guru's mercy one gets Krsna. So, if one is sincere, he will take advantage of guru's mercy and Krsna's mercy, and then he will be perfect. This is called bhakti-yoga. Not that "I am now very much advanced, I don't require any help from my guru," as somebody are doing. This is rascaldom. You cannot get Krsna by overcoming guru. That is not possible. Therefore Caitanya-caritamrta, guru-krsna-krpaya paya. We should always remember that by the mercy of Krsna we get guru, and by the mercy of guru we get Krsna. So we have to seek mercies of both of them.
So, mayy asakta, mad, mad-asrayah. Mad-asrayah means, mat-asrayah, one...., guru means...., who has taken full shelter of Krsna, he is guru. A, a guru does not mean that he has taken shelter of somebody else and he has become guru. That is not. Guru means one who has taken full shelter, complete surrender to Krsna, he is guru. Or he speaks only what is spoken by Krsna. Just like we have, speaking in this Bhagavad-gita, as it is. There is no malinterpretation. Krsna says sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. The guru will teach his disciple that "You surrender to Krsna." Krsna is God, He is saying "Surrender to Me," and guru is saying "You surrender to Krsna." Therefore the statement is the same. Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru, so guru will say the same thing, that "You always think of Krsna, you become a devotee of Krsna, you offer worship to Krsna, you offer your obeisances." This is guru's business. Not that because in the sastra it is said that guru should be honore as Krsna, as bhagavan, therefore guru will think, "I have become bhagavan." No. That is mayavada. The disciple will offer as respect, as much respect he offers to Krsna, to guru. That is the sastric injunction. For that reason the real guru will not think that "I have become Krsna." Kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasado. By the mercy of guru, you get the mercy of Krsna. If, if guru approves, that "Here is a nice devotee," then Krsna accepts, "Yes, here is a nice devotee."
So therefore yasya prasadad, our business is to please guru. If he is satisfied, then Krsna immediately becomes satisfied, because he is the agent. That is very easy to understand. Suppose you are working in office, your immediate boss the superintendent, if he is pleased, that means the managing director is also pleased. You haven't got to please the managing director separately. If you please his representative, then the managing director sees the report, "Yes this man is working nice." That he will accept. He has never seen him. But that is not the fact, Krsna also seeing you. So this is called mad-asritah. Yunjan..., mayy asakta-manah partha yogam yunjan mad-asrayah. You have to take shelter of Krsna. And Krsna, because you have no direct touch of Krsna, therefore you take shelter of Krsna's representative. Then this yunjan begins. He will teach you how to practice the bhakti-yoga, how to worship Him, how to think of Him, how to offer obeisances, how to observe the ceremonies. Just like yesterday we perfomed the ceremonies, Ratha-yatra, so this dress, Jagannatha dress, and function, everything you have to learn. This is called bhakti-yoga, mad-asrayah. And this, the beginning is mayy asakta-manah, asakta. Asakti, we have to develop attachment. If you do not develop attachment for Krsna, then other thing does not come.
So this asakti attachment has to be practiced. That asakti, there is rules and regulation, or the method how you can develop, increase your attachment for Krsna. So, the first thing is adau sraddha, faith, that "If I become Krsna conscious, I will be happy. That is my goal of life." This is called sraddha. If you have no sraddha, that "By loving Krsna, by surrendering to Krsna, my life will be perfect, that is perfection of life," then there is no beginning of bhakti-yoga. So first thing is this. Just like Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja. So, "You give up all other engagement, just surrender to Me." So if you have got faith actually, then you can devote yourself fully, cent percent in the service of, that is the beginning, adau sraddha, "Yes, Krsna says that by surrendering to Him I shall be free from all sinful reaction." If you have got faith, then you surrender, and actually you will be free from all sinful reaction. Krsna says... Krsna is not making any bogus propaganda. He sai, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami, "I shall get you released from all reaction of sinful life." We are suffering because there is reaction of sinful life, but if you surrender to Krsna, then your all reaction of sinful life is immediately nullified, squared up.
So this is the process of bhakti-yoga. You surrender and, in the past, whatever sinful activities you have done, that is squared up, now account closed. Now you begin a new life, devotional life, and if you stick to the principle as it is instructed, that do not have illicit sex life, do not have intoxicants, do not eat meat, do not play gambling, speculate, you promise before Krsna and before the spiritual master, before the Vaisnavas, so many witnesses, and if you violate, then you can understand what you are doing. You promise with..., before the Deity. Krsna is not different, so when the initiation takes place we promise so many things. But if we do not follow, if we do not keep our promise, that is a great fault. If you, by chance, by mistake, you violate the regulative principle, that is excused, but if willingly, if you go on committing sinful life -- so just like in the Churches they go to confess and again begin -- that kind of business will not help you. That kind of business will not help you. Now I have confessed, now I begin new chapter of sinful life. Again I shall confess. Krsna is not so fool that you can cheat Him by this process. No, that is not possible. You can be executing the process of your advancement; unwillingly if you commit some mistake, that will be excused. That is said in the Bhagavad-gita, api cet su-duracaro bhajate mam ananya-bhak sadhur eva sa mantavyah. Sometimes we take shelter of this verse, that api cet su-duracaro, "However sinful you might, may be," bhajate mam ananya-bhak, "if he is fully engaged in My service..." But this word is very important. One cannot be fully engaged in the service of Krsna unless he is purified. Yesam tv anta-gatam papam jananam punya-karmanam [Bg. 7.28]. One who is completely free from reaction of sinful life and is always engaged in pious activities, such person can be Krsna conscious. So it is..., it is not that one is a debauch, at the same time a Krsna conscious. That is a contradictory. It cannot be. If he is actually Krsna conscious, he is cannot be debauch. And if he is debauch, then he is not Krsna conscious. Two things cannot go parallel.
So, we are..., if we are fully surrendered to Krsna, Krsna takes our all sinful, because continually we are suffering. What is that? Because, just like the same example, a infection. I have infected, say, two, three kinds of disease, so I am suffering from one infection, again another infection. They come. They take time. Just like if you sow a seed, it not that immediately becomes a big tree and fruits. No. It takes some time. Similarly, our papa-bijam, the seed of sinful activity, we take it, but in the, immediately we may not see that it is fructified, but it will, in due course of time, it will. Same (indistinct), that one man has infected cholera bacteria, so not that immediately he is attacked with cholera; say after a few days. Therefore the injection is given, and that time is allowed in the medical treatment, so that if the infection has actually working, the disease will come. So immediately we may not see that we are infected with some certain type of sinful activities, but it will come into notice That is going on. Therefore we shall be careful not to infect. And how to become careful? If you always engage yourself in Krsna's service. Therefore the Deity worship in the temple is there to keep us always engaged. Not only Deity worship. The class, reading, hearing, kirtana. In so many ways. There are nine different kinds of ways,
sravanam kirtanam visnoh
smaranam pada-sevanam
arcanam vandanam dasyam
sakhyam atma...
Any way, if you keep yourself always engaged in Krsna consciousness, in Krsna's business, then you are immune. You will not be infected. This is the process. Keep yourself always engaged in Krsna consciousness business, you will always remain immune. Sa-gunan samatitya etan brahma-bhuyaya. And willfully, we shall not do anything which against the bhakti process, willfully. But because I am habituated... Suppose a smoker he has taken to Krsna consciousness, at least has promised that "I shall not smoke, I shall...," but all of a chance, sudden, suppose his friend seduces him: "Oh what is that, smoke today, doing." So sometimes we become induced, but we should always remember that "I have taken this vow. Why shall I be induced by my friend to smoke?" That is very nice. But even if by mistake you do that, that can be excused, but not willfully: "Now nobody is seeing, Krsna is not here. Let me smoke now." Not that. (laughter) Krsna's eyes are everywhere. You cannot escape Krsna's eyes.
So, in this way, this verse says that "Increase your attachment upon Me." That attachment can be..., the process is this, that first of all you must have full faith in Krsna, or full faith in the words of spiritual master. That is the beginning. If you have no faith, there is no question of advancing. The advance, there is no question. Finished, then everything is finished. First thing is faith. Then, then we have to associate with persons who have faith, sadhu-sangah. This, this is, our opening of different center means we are giving chance. So those who are inmates of the temple, they should be also such nice devotees that anyone who will come in the association of devotees, he will immediately develop a sense of devotion. That is the duty, those who are managing this temple. By his character, by his behavior, he will be influenced. This, this is next step. First of all faith, the next step is to associate with devotees. But devotees must be also sincere devotee, otherwise what will be the affect of such asociation? Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sango. Then, gradually he will be inclined to become one of the devotees. He will request the president, "Sir, you recommend me for being initiated. I am interested." That is called bhajana-kriya. Adau sraddha tatah sadhu-sango 'tha bhajana-kriya. That bhajana-kriya, he is initiated, the activities begins officially. Then as he make advance in this bhajana-kriya, or activities in devotional service, then anartha-nivrttih syat, then all the unwanted things -- the so-called illicit sex life, meat-eating, drinking, gambling, even up to smoking and drinking tea -- finished. Anartha-nivrttih syat. Then you become pure. When you are pure, then your attachment for Krsna, athasaktis. That is called asaktih, attachment. Then tato nistha, then firm faith; tato rucih, taste; tatah saktih, then attachment; tato bhavah: in this way you will come to the platform of loving Krsna. Then your life is perfect. This verse explains that: how you can increase your devotional life, how you can become pefect, how you can know God perfectly, samagram; asamsayam, without any doubt. This is the process.
Thank you very much.
Devotees: Jaya. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.... (break)
Prabhupada: No question?
Devotee (1): Yes, right here Prabhupada.
Devotee (2): What gives a man the right to take the renounced order of life, Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Devotee (2): What, what gives a man the right to accept the renounced order of life?
Devotee (1): What, who gives?
Devotee (2): What qualifications?
Devotee (1): What qualifications should the man have to take sannyasa?
Prabhupada: Sannyasa?
Devotee (1): What qualifications?
Prabhupada: For sannyasi?
Devotee (1): Yes.
Prabhupada: Who has got no more material desires. Then he is fit for taking sannyasa. Sarvopadhi. Anyabhilasita-sunyam. Sunyam means zero. All material desires made into zero. Then sannyasa. Sannyasi, anasakta. That is described in the Bhagavad-gita, anasritah karma-phalam karyam karma karoti yah sa sannyasi... Who is a sannyasi? Anasakta. Anasakta means he is working day and night, but no attachment for the result. Karmis... What is the difference between karmi and sannyasa? Karmi is working so hard, day and night; he is expecting that "I shall get some money out of it and I shall enjoy." That is karmi. And sannyasi, he is working in the same way, day and night, but he is not expecting the profit for his personal use. For Krsna. That is sannyasa. What is the difference? There is no..., in the activities there is no difference, but the one is accepting the result for his personal benefit, and one is creating good result but not for his personal benefit, but Krsna's service. This is the definition of sannyasa. Anasakta..., anasritah karma-phalam karyam: he is doing as my duty. I am Krsna's servant, I have to do it. If I do not do it, then it is my misbehavior. Anasakta, anasritah karma-phalam karyam karma ka..., sa sannyasi ca yogi ca. Such person is yogi, such person is sannyasi, na niragnir na cakriyah. Not that artificially I have taken the dress of a sannyasi and talking nonsense. He is not sannyasi. Sannyasa means one who has completely devoted his life for Krsna. He is sannyasi, sa sannyasi, and he is yogi.
Devotee (1): Yes.
Devotee (3): Srila Prabhupada, how..., how is one able to draw the distinction between working very hard for Krsna and over-endeavoring?
Prabhupada: Hm. What is that -- phalena pariciyate. By the result you can understand. By service Krsna, he will understand more about Krsna. Krsna will be clear to him. That is the test, because it is said, sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam. Krsna cannot be realized by so-called speculation, but if you render service to Krsna, then Krsna will reveal to you. Revelation. So, he, how much service he is giving, that will be tested how much he has, I mean to say, realized Krsna. This is the test. If Krsna is still vague idea to him, then he has not advanced. This is the test. Just like if you are eating something, then you will feel satisfaction. You are hungry, you have been given some food, but you cannot say that "I am eating, also I am not satisfied in my hunger." That cannot be. If you are actually serving Krsna, then Krsna will reveal to you. You will know what is Krsna, asamsayam samagram mam, without any doubt, and fullness. Here is the test. If somebody comes, "What is Krsna," you say, "Yes, I am serving Krsna, but I do not know what is Krsna". What is his service? He must know, because here it is said, asamsayam samagram, without any doubt... (end)
>>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 7.1 -- Melbourne, June 29, 1974 (New-2003)
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