The Art of Preaching

73/07/22 London, Bhagavad-gita 1.28-29

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Pradyumna (leads chanting, etc.):

arjuna uvaca
drstvemam svajanam krsna
yuyutsum samupasthitam
sidanti mama gatrani
mukham ca parisusyati
 [Bg. 1.28]

 vepathus ca sarire me
roma-harsas ca jayate
gandivam sramsate hastat
tvak caiva paridahyate [Bg. 1.29]

Translation: "Arjuna said: My dear Krsna, seeing my friends and relatives present before me in such a fighting spirit, I feel the limbs of my body quivering and my mouth drying up. My whole body is trembling, and my hair is standing on end. My bow Gandiva is slipping from my hand, and my skin is burning."

Prabhupada: So drstva imam svajanam. Arjuna is a great warrior, fighter, and for a ksatriya to kill one is not very difficult task. The ksatriyas are trained up. Hunting. Hunting is allowed for the ksatriyas. Just like medical practitioners, they are trained up how to practice surgical operation on dead body. It is not possible to, of course, for a gentleman, to push knife in someone's body. It is naturally very difficult thing. Rogues and thieves, they can stab. So as the doctors, medical men, surgeons are trained up to operate their knife on the dead body to see where are the nerves, similarly, ksatriyas are also allowed for being trained how to kill. Ksatriya means... Ksat. Ksat means injury. And tra means trayate, saves. A ksatriya has to save the citizens from being injured by others. He is called ksatriya. Brahmana means one who knows brahma, the supreme. So brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra. These divisions are there according to quality. Guna-karma-vibhagasah. By guna. Guna means quality. And karma means actual operation of the guna.

So Arjuna was a ksatriya, trained up by Dronacarya how to kill. This is the... Nonviolence is not the business of the ksatriya. That is cowardice. They are taught how to become violent. Otherwise, they cannot rule over. Formerly the judgement was given by the king, immediately finished. Not go to the court and wait for the judgement for ten years. In the meantime everything is finished. Not like that. Anything, there was regularly, the king used to sit in his assembly, and all the criminals, culprits, they were judged by the king himself. Sometimes the king had to kill personally with the sword. Even in European countries, the royal orders were trained up. Nowadays it is constitutional, democratic government. The king has no power. But this is not good for the people. The democracy is a farce. At least, I do not like it. Because so many rascals, simply by getting votes, go to the government, and what do they know how to rule over? Therefore, at the present moment, all over the world there is no good government. There is no good government. The America was considered to have very good government. Now we can see the behavior of Mr. Nixon. It is not possible. Formerly the ksatriyas, they were trained up how to govern. They were trained up by military men, just like Dronacarya trained Arjuna, Duryodhana. All the royal princes were trained up how to kill. Not only killing, also, according to sastra, how to rule over. The king's business is to see that everyone in the country, they are properly employed and engaged in his own business. That is king's business. There was no question of unemployment. This is government's first business. Because if a person is unemployed, then the devil's workshop. Devil's, work... If he hasn't got to do anything... That is being done now. Rich man's son, he hasn't got to do anything, so his brain is devil's workshop. They are manufacturing so many "isms." But everyone should be engaged. This is government's first business to see. A brahmana is engaged as a brahmana, a ksatriya is engaged as ksatriya.So Arjuna was not a coward. He was a competent warrior. But still, dehatma-buddhi, the bodily concept of life is so strong... That Arjuna admits, drstva tu svajanam krsna: "My dear Krsna, I have to kill my own men." What is that "own men"? "Own men" means this bodily relationship. Why others are not own men? Everyone is own men. Because everyone is Krsna's son. So when one becomes Krsna conscious, he can see everyone own men. And when he is not Krsna conscious, he simply sees own men where there is bodily relationship. This is the defect. They are advertising, humanitarian work, philanthropic work, communism, this "ism," but when there is question of bodily relationship, immediately everything is changed. You know, the Communist country, the Khruschev was driven out because he was patronizing his own men. That was the defect. So you can advertise that "I am for everyone," but there is affection for own men. Nepotism. Nepotism. It's called nepotism. So many big, big leaders. Our Jawaharhal Nehru, he was sending his own men as ambassador. Vijaya Lakshmi, a woman, she was being sent as ambassador. She was high commissioner here. So this "own men" question is very prominent everywhere.

So Arjuna is a great warrior. He could fight all the soldiers, all the fighting men, yuyutsu. The other party, they were also, they were assembled, yuyutsu, with fighting spirit. Other men, even they are not fighting spirit, we can kill very easily. But own men, although they are fighting spirit, still he hesitates. Because own men. So this "own-menship," in relationship with the body, is the barrier for spiritual understanding. So long this conception of life will exist, that "I am this body, and anyone who is related with this body, they are my own men, kinsmen, relatives..." This conception of life is the greatest barrier for advancing in spiritual consciousness. Therefore the Vedic civilization is so planned that one has to give up this rascal "own men" conception. That is the vairagya. It is called vairagya. Jnana-vairagya. Two things required in human life: knowledge and vairagya, detachment. The attachment increases. First of all, it increases. Pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam etam. This whole world is based on sex life. A man has got attraction for woman; a woman has got attraction for man. This is nature's bondage. Shackle. And when they are actually united, either by the father, mother, or by their own way, that shackle, that attraction, increases. Pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam etam tayor mitho hrdaya-granthim ahuh. Hrdaya-granthim. Knot in the heart. "She is my wife." "He is my husband." Of course, now that knot is very slack. Formerly it was very strong because the woman was not allowed to mix with any other man, and the man was also not allowed with any other woman. This intermingling has slackened even that knot, hrdaya-granthim. Therefore, even trifle cases, quarrel between husband and wife, there is divorce. Because that unity is not very strong now. That is good. Some way or other, it is slackened. So this "own-menship" comes from bodily concept of life.

So Arjuna is preparing the ground, how to receive the instruction of Bhagavad-gita. Because spiritual instruction will begin to separate the soul from the body. Unless one understands that there is a soul different from this body, there is no spiritual education. This is the basic principle. If you do not understand what is soul, what is spirit soul, then where is spiritual education? So Arjuna was affected. He says frankly, drstva tu svajanam krsna yuyutsum samupasthitam: "What is this? I have to kill my own men." Svajanam. Svajanam means own men. "No, no." Sidanti mama gatrani: "Oh, I am shivering." Mukham ca parisusyati: "My mouth is being dried up." We have got this experience. When there is danger, these things happen, so many symptoms.

vepathus ca sarire me
roma-harsas ca jayate
gandivam sramsate hastat
tvak caiva paridahyate

As these things, these symptoms, different transformations of bodily constitution, appear in times of danger, similarly such symptoms appear in times of spiritual bliss. That is called asta-sattvika-vikara, eight kinds of transformation of the body. So there is so many reserve energies within our body. They become manifest in due course of time when the mind and intelligence work in different ways. This is the study, how things appear. It is appearing from intelligence, mind. The soul is there and the intelligence and mind creating the situation of the bodily symptoms. Therefore body or the senses are not all. The modern education, they think this body is everything. No. Real study is body means the senses. Indriyani parany ahuh. On gross vision we see this body. Indriyani parany ahur indriyebhyah param manah [Bg. 3.42]. But the bodily symptoms are acting because the mind is there. And mind is working because the intelligence is there. And the intelligence is working because the soul is there. (aside:) You can stand.

So this is the process. The basic principle is the soul. The soul is acting through intelligence, and the intelligence is acting through mind, and the mind is expressed through the senses. This is the position. So as my mind is absorbed in something, some subject matter, my bodily symptoms also will work, or the senses will work according to that mind. Therefore for spiritual advancement also, you have to train your mind. Sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayor vacamsi vaikuntha-gunanuvarnane. If you use... First of all fix up your mind. Yoga means indriya-samyama. Yoga practice means that controlling the mind and the senses. That is yoga practice. Because our mind is very flickering and changing, something accepting immediately, something rejecting immediately, very flickering. Therefore we have to train up the mind, and when the mind is trained up, then automatically your senses will be controlled. If you are strong-minded, that "I will not accept any foodstuff which is not offered to Krsna," naturally your tongue is controlled. Naturally. Bhaktivinoda Thakura has sung, sarira avidya-jal jadendriya tahe kal jive phele visaya-sagare. Our this body is a network of nescience, or ignorance. This body, why we have got this body, material body? Because we have forgotten Krsna and we wanted to lord it over the material nature. This is our position. Therefore, according to our different desires, we have got different bodies. Here we are sitting, say fifty or hundred men. Nobody's body will tally with other's body. Face and everything, different. Because every one of us has got different desires. Therefore their facial expression, bodily construction, everything is made according to the mind. So at the time of death also, the constitution of mind will transfer me to another, different type of body. The mind will carry the soul. These are all explained in the Bhagavad-gita. Yam yam vapi smaran bhavam tyajaty ante kalevaram [Bg. 8.6]. So if you train up your mind, that is Krsna consciousness. Always remembering Krsna. Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare. Then it may be possible that at the time of death you remember Krsna and your life is successful. Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti kaunteya [Bg. 4.9]. Immediately you are transferred to Krsnaloka. This is training.

So we have to think of Krsna always, twenty-four hours. Kirtaniyah sada harih. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has recommended. Taror api sahisnuna.

trnad api sunicena
taror api sahisnuna
amanina manadena
kirtaniyah sada harih
 [Cc. Adi 17.31]

Because our aim is... If we are serious of being transferred to the loka, to the place, where Krsna is, then we have to train up the mind so nicely that at the time of death I can remember Krsna. Therefore one great king, Kulasekhara, he is praying to Krsna, krsna tvadiya pada-pankaja... What is that verse? Tvadiya, krsna tvadiya pada-pankaja. I am just forgetting. The idea is, Kulasekhara, King Kulasekhara is praying to Krsna, adyaiva visatu me manasa-raja-hamsah. Adyaiva. Prana-prayana-samaye kapha-vata-pittaih smaranam kutas te. He is praying, "Krsna, I am now in good health. So kindly award me death immediately." Adyaiva. "Immediately, so that my mind, who is just like a swan, he can take pleasure by entering into stem of Your lotus flower feet." Krsna's feet is always compared with lotus flower, and the lotus flower has got a stem. And the swans, they take pleasure being entangled with that stem. They go and dive into the water. This is their very good sporting. So he is taking that sporting, he is comparing his mind as the raja-hamsa. "So as the raja-hamsa takes pleasure by entangling him in the stem of the lotus flower, similarly Your lotus feet, there is a stem. So my mind, which may be compared with raja-hamsa, let it be entangled now, immediately. Otherwise I do not know." Prana-prayana-samaye kapha-vata-pittaih. "When everything bodily function will be mixed up, kapha-vata-pittaih, 'ghan ghan,' there will be some sound, how I will be able to remembering your lotus feet? So let me die immediately, immediately. Now I am quite fit. Otherwise I may not be able." This is the point. The mind should be kept in healthy condition. Samjna. Therefore one who dies with full sense remembering Krsna, oh, he is successful. In Bengali it is said, bhajana kara sadhana kara murti yanre haya. (?) You may be very great devotee. That's all right. But it will be tested at the time of your death, how you remember Krsna. That will be the test examination. At the time of death, if we forget, if we become parrotlike... Just like parrot, he chants also, "Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna." But when the cat catches the neck, "Kanh! Kanh! Kanh!" No more Krsna. No more Krsna. So artificial practice will not help us. Then "Khan, khan." That kapha-pitta-vataih, kanthavarodhana-vidhau smaranam kutas te.

So from the beginning we have to practice Krsna consciousness if we are actually serious to go back to home, back to Godhead. Not that let it be left for two or three years before death. Oh, it is not so easy. It is not so easy. Prahlada Maharaja recommends therefore,

kaumara acaret prajno
dharman bhagavatan iha
durlabham manusam janma
tad apy adhruvam arthadam [SB 7.6.1]

He was five years old, Krsna conscious, from the womb of his mother. He heard instruction of Narada. Narada was instructing his mother. He was in the womb. Fortunately, by God's grace, he heard all the instruction of Narada when he was in the womb of his mother. And the result was, from the beginning of his life, he is Krsna conscious. From the beginning. As soon as he took birth, he was Krsna conscious. So he was advising his class friends, preaching. Just see. He was five-years-old boy, but he was taking the opportunity of preaching. Because the teacher... He is born of demon family. So all those class friends, they were also sons of demons. So there is no question of Krsna consciousness. But he learned Krsna consciousness from the womb of his mother.So he was trying to preach. Because he was king's son, there was no other opportunity for preaching, and he was a five-years-old boy. He took the opportunity in the classroom, as soon as the teacher is away, he would preach. He would preach. This is preaching spirit. As soon as you get some opportunity, preach. What is that preach? Preaching, Caitanya Mahaprabhu has advised us, yare dekha tare kaha krsna-upadesa [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. This is preaching. "Whoever you meet, simply speak of the instruction of Krsna." So if you are advanced, if you know what is the instruction of Krsna by reading Bhagavad-gita, you can preach to others. And if you have not read anything, suppose you do not know anything, then you can also preach. What is that? "Just become a devotee of Krsna, my dear sir." That's all. This is also preaching. "Just surrender to Krsna." You go door to door. If you cannot do anything, simply say, "My dear sir, you are very good man. Oh, you are very intelligent man. Chant Hare Krsna." Sakalam eva vihaya durat. This preaching was taught by Prabodhananda Sarasvati. Dante nidhaya trnakam padayor nipatya kaku-satam krtva ca aham bravimi. This is the preaching process. Dante nidhaya trnakam. According to Vedic civilization, if one wants to become very humble and approach another person, then he has to take one straw in the mouth. Trna. So the preaching process is to take a straw in the mouth, dante nidhaya trnakam padayor nipatya, and falling down on your feet, dante nidhaya trnakam padayor, kaku-satam krtva ca aham bravimi. And flattering you: "Sir, you are so great man, you are so intelligent man." This is flattering. Although he is fool number one, we have to flatter like that. "Oh, there is no greater man like you. You are so intelligent, you are so rich, you are so beautiful." So all these things. Just like the beggars. Sometimes: "You become king." And one thinks, "Oh, he is blessing me. All right, you take one paisa." So this flattering is also required. So kaku-satam krtva caham bravimi. So the man may ask that "Why you are so humble and flattering? What is your intention? Tell me." So he is now telling. He sadhavah, "Oh, you are great sadhu." He sadhavah, sakalam eva vihaya durat: "You have learned so many nice things. I know that. But kick them out, please." Sakalam eva. "Whatever you have nonsense learned, rascaldom you have learned, please kick them out. This is my request." Sakalam eva vihaya durat caitanya-candra-carane kurutanuragam. "Just hear what Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu says. This is my request." This is preaching. This is preaching. Flatter, fall down on his feet, and eulogize him as great sadhu, as great intelligent, great rich. Do so that he may little hear. And when he says, "What do you want?" "Now, (laughter) I want this, sir. Whatever rascaldom you have learned, please forget. Because I know you are rascal number one. (laughter) You have got so many hodge-podge thing in your brain. So you kick them out please." Sakalam eva vihaya durat. "Kick them, throw away, long distance. Don't look upon them." "Then what to do?" Caitanya-candra-carane kurutanuragam. "Please hear what Caitanya-candra says." sri-krsna-caitanya-daya karaha vicara, vicara karile citte pabe camatkara: "Just try to understand the mercy of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu and you will feel so sublime." Sri-krsna-caitanya-daya karaha vicara. "Don't take it blindly. If you are intelligent, just make a judgment, what Caitanya-candra is." Tell him.

So this is preaching. This is preaching. So Arjuna has to be a preacher. Practical preacher. What is that preaching? That he has to sacrifice everything for Krsna's sake. That's all. This is preaching. Sakalam eva vihaya durat. Arjuna will be the greatest example, how he became Krsna conscious, in the last Tenth Chapter. He will say, sarvam etad rtam manye yad vadasi kesava: [Bg. 10.14] "My dear Krsna, Kesava, whatever you say, I accept in total." Without any interpretation, or "This is like this, this is like that, this is not very good." Ardha-kukkuti-nyaya. All rascals, they accept this Bhagavad-gita on the principle of ardha-kukkuti-nyaya. In the nyaya, in the logic. There is a logic, ardha-kukkuti-nyaya. What is that ardha-kukkuti-nyaya? Kukkuti means the hen. So hen gives one egg every day. So the man, proprietor of the hen, he is considering that "This hen is very good, giving every day one egg. But the, its mouth is expensive. It eats. So let me cut the mouth, simply take the egg." So there are rascals, they study Bhagavad-gita on this principle of ardha-kukkuti-nyaya. "Cut this, take this, cut this, take this." So if you cut the head, there will be no more egg. The rascal does not know. If you cut the head there will be no more production of egg. So similarly, if you try to study Bhagavad-gita according to your whims, cut this and take this, that is not study of Bhagavad-gita. That is something else. That is something else. That is something else.

Therefore we have to take from Arjuna how he accepted Bhagavad-gita. He said, sarvam etad rtam manye: [Bg. 10.14] "Krsna, You are the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Whatever You are speaking, whatever You have spoken, I take them as it is." This is study of Bhagavad-gita. So the hindrance is this svajanam. Now he is presenting. He is presenting himself as fool number one, although he is not so. But he is creating the ground for Krsna's speaking on Bhagavad-gita. This is the principle. Therefore he is not at all affected by the svajanam, but he is presenting, "This is my problem, that I have to kill..." Drstva imam svajanam krsna. "By seeing my own kinsmen, because I am fool number one..." Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tridhatuke." I am calling them svajana. In sastra it is called svajanakhya-dasyu. Svajanakhya-dasyu. They are all thieves and rogues, but they are claiming as my kinsmen. Suppose in your pocket there is one hundred dollars. If some pickpocket takes it and if you capture him, then you give him immediately to the police. And when you come home after hard-earned money, and when your wife takes away, oh, you laugh, "Oh you have taken all my money! Ahhhhh!" But the same pickpocket, but the same pickpocket, but because he's svajanakhya-dasyu, "pickpocket in the name of svajana," he is very much pleased: "Oh, my wife has taken, my son has taken. Never mind." That's all. And others? As soon as takes, he, "Give him to the police." The same business is being done. He is working hard day and night, and they are plundering. Still, they are thinking, "They are my svajanam, they are my kinsmen." This is called illusion.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

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Pradyumna (leads chanting, etc.):

sanjaya uvaca
evam ukto hrsikeso
gudakesena bharata
senayor ubhayor madhye
sthapayitva rathottamam [Bg. 1.24]

Translation: "Sanjaya said: O descendant of Bharata, being thus addressed by Arjuna, Lord Krsna drew up the fine chariot in the midst of the armies of both parties."

bhisma-drona-pramukhatah
sarvesam ca mahiksitam
uvaca partha pasyaitan
samavetan kurun iti
 [Bg. 1.25]

Translation: "In the presence of Bhisma, Drona and all other chieftains of the world, Hrsikesa, the Lord, said, Just behold, Partha, all the Kurus who are assembled here."

Prabhupada: So sanjaya uvaca. Actually Sanjaya, the secretary of Dhrtarastra, he is relating the activities in the battlefield. Dhrtarastra is blind. How in the battlefield the fighting was going on, Sanjaya was observing, either by television or a similar method. Otherwise, how he could explain things are going on in the battlefield in the room? This Bhagavad-gita, Sanjaya explained, all activities in the battlefield, to Dhrtarastra, within the room. So there must have been something like television or higher than the television, he was seeing within himself everything.

So scientific improvement is coming, but still on the material platform. Material means gross material and subtle material. That is explained in the Bhagavad-gita:

bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh
kham mano buddhir eva ca
ahankara itiyam me
bhinna prakrtir astadha
 [Bg. 7.4]

Earth, water, fire, air, sky, these five elements are gross material, everyone can see, gross. We can see earth, we can see water. We can see fire, air, or we can perceive the sky also. But there is subtle matter also. Mind, intelligence, ego. We cannot see the mind. We cannot see intelligence. I understand that you have got intelligence, or everyone knows we have got mind, but we cannot see. This is subtle. They are also matter, subtle matter. So the television is a machine made of gross matter, but there is possibility of making another machine of subtle matter. There is possibility. Because matter, they are also matter. That subtle matter machine is not yet discovered. But here we can see the subtle matter discovery was there. Otherwise, how Sanjaya could see the activities in the battlefield? This is to be understood. They are very much proud of material advancement of science, but still, they have to make advancement, subtle matter. And above that subtle matter, within that subtle matter, there is spiritual identity. Indriyani parany ahur indriyebhyah param manah, manasas tu para buddhih [Bg. 3.42].

First of all we can see a person. A person we see, what do we see? The senses. But we cannot see the director of the senses. The director of the senses is the mind. And the director of the mind is intelligence. And the owner of the intelligence is the soul. This is understanding. The soul is there. Whose intelligence? As soon as we shall say intelligence, whose intelligence? That is the soul's intelligence. Wherefrom the intelligence is coming? From Paramatma, Hrsikesa. Therefore this word is used here, hrs ikesa. The intelligence will come from Paramatma. Otherwise we cannot act, just like a child has got intelligence, but it is guided by the parent's intelligence: "My dear son, do like this." And he does it. Similarly, we have got all this mind, intelligence, everything, but that is being guided by the super-intelligence, Krsna. Therefore He is called Hrsikesa. Once we have explained Hrsikesa. So we have to reach that platform where we can talk with Hrsikesa. That is spiritual platform. That is possible. The more you become purified, you can talk with Hrsikesa, who is within yourself. He is not outside. Although He in Goloka Vrndavana, Krsna is always in Vrndavana, in the spiritual world, but because He is Krsna, He can remain with you also at the same time, simultaneously. This is Krsna. Goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhutah [Bs. 5.37].

goloka-namni nija-dhamni tale ca tasya
devi-mahesa-hari-dhamasu tesu tesu
te te prabhava-nicaya vihitas ca yena
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami

It is proposed, our Mayapura temple will be on this plan. Goloka-namni nija-dhamni tale ca tasya [Bs. 5.43]. The highest planetary system, spiritual, that is spiritual planet, that is named goloka-namni, Goloka Vrndavana. We have given that picture in the Bhagavata cover. Perhaps you know. The topmost original planet is the Goloka. Goloka-namni nija-dhamni. That is the abode of Krsna. Krsna-dhama. Krsna-dhama. People are searching after God. But actually there is the planet where God lives, Krsna lives. But you have got your machine, aeroplane, sputnik. You can reach there, but you cannot reach even the highest planet, even on this material planet, material universe. Everyone sees. We see the stars or planets. Now you have got the machine; you go there. No. You cannot go. You are so limited. Even you cannot go to the moon planet, which is so nearest. You cannot go. But still, we are proud of our these airplanes, sputniks. We are thinking, "Now we have become God." These rascals they do not know what is God. They are all rascals. They have no idea what is God. Therefore they have accepted another rascal as God. This is going on. You cannot reach. Panthas tu koti-sata-vatsara-sampragamyo vayor athapi manaso muni-pungavanam, so 'pyasti yat prapada-simny avicintya-tattve [Bs. 5.34]. Sastra gives you. Just like your material science also gives you information that there is one planet, highest planet, and one can go there by sputnik in forty thousands of years. So who is going to live forty thousand years to reach there? But they have got theoretically all these things. The highest planet. Material. That is not spiritual.

So after finishing this material world, there is covering of the universe, stock matter, mahat-tattva, wherefrom all these material comings. There is stock. So you have to penetrate through that stock material. And each layer of stock is ten times more than the other. So you have to pierce through the stock, material stock; then you reach the spiritual world. And the spiritual world, there are many... "Many" means three times more than these universes. This universe, this material universe, is only one-fourth manifestation of Krsna's creation. Ekamsena sthito jagat. When Arjuna inquired from Krsna, "So would you kindly explain little of your opulence." "Yes." So He said, "I am this. Out of this, I am this." He summarized,

athava bahunaitena
kim jnatena tavarjuna
vistabhyaham idam krtsnam
ekamsena sthito jagat [Bg. 10.42]

Ekamsena. You are seeing this universe. This universe -- only a fragment of the material creation, a fragment. Caitanya Mahaprabhu informed us... One of His devotees requested Caitanya Mahaprabhu, "My dear Lord, You have come personally. You kindly take all the living entities to the spiritual world. Be kind enough upon them. And if you think that they are so sinful they cannot be taken, then transfer all their sins unto me. You take them. You take them." So Caitanya Mahaprabhu began to smile that "Even if I take the all the living entities of the universe, but do you know, this universe is only one fragmental part of other, all other universes. There are many other universes." And He compared that "In a bag where, bag full of mustard seeds..." Just imagine, a big bag of mustard seeds. "And this universe is just like one mustard seed." There are so many universes, so many universes. And it is confirmed in the Brahma-samhita: yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti [Bs. 5.40]. Jagad-anda. Jagad-anda means this universe. Brahmanda, jagad-anda. Koti, innumerable. Jagad-anda-koti. Yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti-kotisv asesa-vasudhadi-vibhuti-bhinnam [Bs. 5.40]. And each universe there are innumerable planets. And each planet is different from others. This is God's creation. And these rascals are manufacturing God. And there is other description also. Yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya jivanti loma-vilaja jagad-anda-nathah [Bs. 5.48]. This jagad-anda, the universe. And there, in each universe, there is a controller of the universe, Brahma. He is called jagad-anda-natha, master of this universe. Because it is controlled by Brahma, therefore each universe is called brahmanda. It is controlled by Brahma. So in the Brahma-samhita we get information: jagad-anda-nathah, plural number. There are many, many thousands jagad-anda... Not only one Brahma. Many millions of Brahmas, many millions of Siva, many millions of Visnu, many millions of sun. Because there are many millions of universes. Now, just imagine. This is material creation. And that material creation, Krsna says, ekamsena sthito jagat [Bg. 10.42]. Taking all the material universes, it is only one-fourth creation of the Lord. And the three fourths creation is the spiritual world. Just imagine what is spiritual world. And in that spiritual, the topmost planet is Goloka.

So you cannot go even in the moon planet. How you can go to that spiritual planet penetrating the material coverings coming to the spiritual effulgence, Brahman, and after all these universes, then...? Therefore it is said, panthas tu koti-sata-vatsara-sampragamyah. Koti-sata-vatsara, millions of years, if you go with your sputnik with full force... Panthas tu koti-sata-vatsara. Not this sputnik, but make your planes of mind speed. This is material speed. What is this speed? A few thousands, twenty thousand, fifty thousand. But do you know mind speed? You are sitting here, and immediately, within a second, you can go to India. This is mind speed. Immediately. So panthas tu koti-sata-vatsara sampragamyo vayor athapi [Bs. 5.34]. By the air speed or mind speed. Vayor athapi manaso muni-pungavanam. And driven by great scientists, muni-pungava. Pungava means very expert, nara-pungava. So big, big scientists, expert scientists, if they can discover airplane which is running on mind speed or air speed... They are not, they cannot go by the air speed. They fly on the air, but not with the air speed. So in this way, still, avicintya-tattve, after going many, many millions of years in that speed, still you will find, "Oh, Goloka Vrndavana is far, far away." This is the position.

And we are explaining what is Krsna. Don't consider Krsna is ordinary human being. Avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritam [Bg. 9.11]. Because He kindly appears before us just like ordinary human being, don't think that He is like us. It is the conclusion. Just like these rascals, they think that "Because Krsna appeared as a human being, I am also God. I am also God. Why Krsna shall be alone God?" So we are trying to explain what is Krsna, Hrsikesa. Hrsikesa. Then goloka-namni. Goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhutah. Goloka eva nivasati.

ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhavitabhis
tabhir ya eva nija-rupataya kalabhih
goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhuto
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami
 [Bs. 5.37]

So our worship is very simple. Tam aham bhajami. We worship that Govinda, adi-purusam. Govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami **. We don't worship ordinary so-called rascals. We worship Govinda. How Govinda is? The Govinda's description is Brahma-samhita. That Govinda, ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibhavitabhih: "He is always in the spiritual world, which is ananda-cinmaya-rasa." Not this kind of ananda -- cinmayananda, spiritual bliss. Spiritual bliss means it is continually going on; still, nobody is fed up. Here you can accept any ananda in this material world, so many things. It cannot go on very long time. Suppose if I give you rasagulla, one rasagulla, you can take: "Oh, very nice." Another, "Very nice." Another, "Nice." Then next four or five, "No, I do not want." Finished. Similarly, any ananda you can take. Sex life. It cannot be continued. Finished. So try to understand what is cinmayananda. Ananda-cinmaya-rasa-pratibha... It, they'll never ends. It goes, nava-nava-yauvana, one after another, new, new, new, new. Just try to understand what is spiritual bliss. You do not... The sahajiyas, they accept this material bliss as spiritual bliss. That is called sahajiya. Don't be sahajiyas. Try to understand according to sastra.

So Krsna is described, this how He becomes Hrsikesa, that goloka eva nivasati. He is enjoying with His associates, the cowherds boys, the gopis, in goloka-namni nija-dhamni. He is enjoying there. At the same time, He is within your heart. This is Krsna, Hrsikesa. He's come simultaneously, not only within your heart, within the atom. Andantara-stha-paramanu-cayantara-stham govindam adi-purusam tam aham... [Bs. 5.35]. Not only within your heart, but within the atom. Just imagine. How many atoms there are. So Krsna is everywhere. These are..., we have to take information of Krsna from the sastra. Sastram eva caksusa (?). Vedanta-sutra. Your eyes should be sastra, not your so-called imagination. sastra-caksusa. Yah sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate kama... If you give up the direction of the sastra and manufacture your own way, yah sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate kama-karatah, as you like, then na sa siddhim avapnoti: you will never get siddhi, perfection, never get. Na sa siddhim avap..., na sukham, neither happiness. And what to speak of param gatim, going back to home, back to Godhead. So sastra-caksusa. Everything we have to take from the sastra. Because we are blind now. sastra-caksusa. Our, the sastra-jnana, because the spiritual master enlightens the disciple with sastra-jnana, therefore he is spiritual master. If the spiritual master bluffs the disciple, then he is not spiritual master. Bluffing. No.

om ajnana-timirandhasya
jnananjana-salakaya
caksur unmilitam yena
tasmai sri-guruve namah

[I offer my respectful obeisances unto my spiritual master, who with the torchlight of knowledge has opened my eyes, which were blinded by the darkness of ignorance.]

This is guru. Guru means he'll always enlighten the disciple with the light of sastra. Not that he will say, "There is no need of sastra. I am incarnation. I, whatever speak, you take it." No. This is rascal. You should immediately, who has no reference to the sastra, immediately take him as a rascal number one. This is the conclusion.

So here is sastra, Bhagavad-gita. Hrsikesa. We have already explained one day. Here also, again we are explaining. Hrsikesa. Krsna. Krsna is there. He never leaves from Vrndavana. He is there. Why? Here also. Just like we see, a very rich man, a very influential man, the president, he lives in his... The Queen, she is in the Buckingham Palace. But she cannot go at the same time anywhere and everywhere. No. She is in, packed up in Buckingham Palace. Krsna is not like that. Therefore He is Hrsikesa. Try to understand the distinction between Krsna and others. Krsna is goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhutah [Bs. 5.37]. Atma-bhuta. This atma-bhuta is Hrsikesa. He is giving intelligence. The more you become purified, the more you get direct instruction from Hrsikesa. This is the point. So how you can become purified? Purified means no more influenced by the modes of material nature. That is explained: gudakesa. Gudaka isa. Gudaka means darkness, and isa. When you become master of this material world, or material senses. This material world means material senses. That's all. So if you become master of the material senses, then you become gudakesa. Therefore Arjuna is described here as gudakesa. Arjuna... Don't take Arjuna that he was mistaken. No, he cannot be. How he can be? He is constantly with Krsna. How he can be misdirected? No. That is not possible. In the Caitanya-caritamrta it is said that krsna surya-sama maya andhakara. So gudaka means darkness, maya. So krsna surya-sama maya andhakara. The darkness and light is there always, side by side. We have got experience. Here is sunlight, here is darkness. So these two things are there. So krsna surya-sama maya andhakara, yahan krsna tahan nahi mayara adhikara. Wherever there is Krsna, there is no jurisdiction of darkness or maya.

daivi hy esa gunamayi
mama maya duratyaya
mam eva ye prapadyante
mayam etam taranti te
 [Bg. 7.14]

You can become immediately out of the scope of maya if you always remain surrendered to Krsna. Maya will not touch you. Just like if you remain always in the sunshine, there is no question of night. Nowadays it is very easy. If you simply drive your plane on the western side, you'll never get night. You just round about. Yes. Just like it is materially possible. You drive your plane simply on the western side. Start your plane in the morning and go to the western side and don't stop it. You go on for three, four, as many days as you like. You'll never get night. This is practical. Similarly, if you keep always with Krsna, you are gudakesa, you will never get darkness. Or maya will not touch you. This is Krsna consciousness. So try to become Gudakesa.

The next verse. Krsna Hrsikesa. So He knew the sarvasya caham hrdi sannivistah. Krsna is there. Krsna knows what is your purpose, what you want to do, what is your past, future. Everything Krsna knows. Everything Krsna knows. That is explained in the Bhagavad-gita. Vedaham samatitani; "I know everything." So Krsna, sthapayitva, rathottamam sthapayitva. As soon as Arjuna asked Him, senayor ubhayor madhye ratham sthapaya me 'cyuta [Bg. 1.21], immediately He carried out the order and He knew why he wants. He wanted to see, "With whom I have to fight, my friends and relatives." He's hesitating. So why this ignorance of Arjuna, the question may be. Arjuna is gudakesa. He is above this material world. How he is being affected by his so-called relatives and kinsmen? He was hesitating to fight on this principle, that "They are my relatives. They are my kinsmen. They are my family members." He was always thinking. Therefore Krsna knew it. So he has become so family-wise infected. But he is gudakesa. How it is possible? He is above all these things. Yes, he is above all these things. By Krsna's desire, he is playing like that, ordinary man. Otherwise, how Bhagavad-gita will come? Krsna cannot talk with ordinary person. Krsna cannot fight with ordinary person. Even the demons, when they come, just like Hiranyaksa, Hiranyakasipu. They were Jaya-Vijaya in the Vaikuntha world. So they came here, and Krsna asked them, that "If you become My enemy, then within three births you will come back. And if you remain friend, then seven births." So they preferred, "Oh, I shall become Your enemy, Sir, so that I can come back again after three births." So why? That Krsna has all the propensities. Just like we sometimes want to fight, mock fight. So in the Vaikuntha world there cannot be any fight. So because Krsna wanted to exercise His fighting spirit, He sent His devotee. He became enemy and He fought. So you have to understand Krsna in that way, as Hrsikesa. He knows that unless Arjuna becomes affected family-wise, how Bhagavad-gita will be there? Therefore although Gudakesa, Arjuna, is above darkness, still, by the will of Krsna, Hrsikesa, he played just like ordinary man, affected with his family affection. Therefore Krsna in the next verse says... Uvaca. Krsna said, "My dear Partha, now you wanted to see with whom you have to fight. Now, here is Bhisma, Drona, and many other kings. All the descendants of Kuru dynasty, your Dhrtarastra's sons. Now you see very nicely and be prepared to fight with them." So this is the explanation of Hrsikesa and Gudakesa.

Thank you very much. (end)

 

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 1.24-25 -- London, July 20, 1973

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